[tmtranscripts] Re: Butler Group 1/26/99

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TOMAS on Ascended Masters
as well as PEARL and MERIUM
T/R's Gerdean, Hunnah and Erata

GROUP:  Hunnah, Erata, Gerdean and Rachel

TEACHER SESSION:  

PEARL:	Good evening.
GROUP:	Good evening, Pearl.
PEARL:	I understand there are questions.
RACHEL:	Yeah, we have a pile of questions here.
PEARL:	Well, let's get started.

RACHEL:	Do you know anything about Unixitron?
PEARL:	No.
RACHEL:	Do you have any information or knowledge to share about "ascended
masters"?
PEARL:	No.

HUNNAH:	This is where I have often wondered if I would rather channel, because
then I would have 
 I really wonder if a person who channels does better than
a person who does T/R'ing.  I never heard anyone except Gerdean, the people at
Grailville, and my daughter, and they never came through with anything but
Urantia vocabulary.  They are always knowledgeable, and (indistinguishable).
I would love to have information to come through that I had never heard about
before, but 
 

PEARL:	What brought about the question?
RACHEL:	It was this Unixitron group who are speaking of ascended masters,
which there is apparently no mention of in The Urantia Book.
 
RACHEL:	How about MY question?  
PEARL:	Very well.
RACHEL:	How does the Father view homosexuality on this planet?

PEARL:	First off, Father loves ALL of his creation.  It is the human element
which chooses who they love.  It is how they go about their love that
determines if it is love.  If homosexuality goes about spreading disease,
things of that nature, causing sadness among individuals, then the Father is
saddened, but as far as each individual, as far as homosexuality, that is the
human choice.  

People have conscience.  If they are brought up in a church and they have
religion which teaches heterosexuality is right, then to that person who
chooses homosexuality, it is wrong.  As far as the Father's love for a
homosexual person, He loves everyone!

MERIUM:	I would like to look at this situation as an individual who is in need
of experience, who finds himself drawn to someone of the same sex.  That is
their personal challenge.  They can offer it to be guided, to be shown 

(Unfortunately, Merium's words were indistinguishable on the tape.)

[Faulty recording lost a lot of words, picking up on the question about
ascended masters.]

TOMAS:	It is part of your phenomenally interesting background, having to do
with your understanding of what happens as you advance in greater spritual
reality.  These comprehensions are only made available to you by and through
your exposure to your experiential classes and rumors of what is going on in
your neighbor's classroom.  

The concept of ascension is an evolved concept.  At first, there was no
ascension.  Indeed, in the beginning there was no spirit!  The early spirit
evolution gave rise to an appreciation for that which was but which could not
be seen.  And there evolved other theories, as in the reincarnation theory, as
it is commonly understood, and more recently, as it is coming to be understood
as a result of your many investigations into greater reality, and this is yet
another example of how you are evolving.

Now that may or may not address ascending and ascension, but it definitely
connotes a forward motion, and you have been evolving on Urantia long enough
to have been able to gather an understanding of your advances.

But as far as masters are concerned, Master is a title.  They called Jesus
Master, and he accepted the designation from his devotees because it was an
expression of respect.  He indeed had mastered much, and before he left he
mastered everything he needed to master while he was here.

A master is not always a teacher, but a master cannot help but teach.  There
are then many who exalt their teachers and leaders and those who they admire
for one reason or another.  They are given the title of Master.

RACHEL:	Like calling the Pope the Holy Father?

TOMAS:	Yes.  This is not overlooked in any hierarchy of relative spirit
reality.  Remember that when your Creator Son has gained sovereignty over his
universe, he has become the Master Son, and this is an understanding, those of
you who read The Urantia Book, from its teachings; but there are others who
also have a semblance of an appreciation for those who have mastered the
universe laws of reality such that they are able to seemingly transcend the
limitations of mortal existence.  And these exalted brethren have become known
to many as Masters, even to the extent wherein it has been a basis of belief
that they have advanced all the way into an ascension of spirit reality and
attained the title or the existential reality of an ascended master.  In fact,
you may construe Christ Michael as an ascended master, for he has ascended and
he is a Master.

RACHEL:	Could we not even call you an ascended master?

TOMAS:	I humbly bow to your graciousness, for I am indeed an ascended master.
And, Rachel, may I not acknowledge you in the same fashion?

RACHEL:	I have one more question, from Gerdean.  You said last week in the
transcripts that there would be adjustments.  Is there anything significant
about that?  What's going on?

TOMAS:	I assume you are not asking me to be a crystal ball gazer?

RACHEL:	No.  Well, my question was - are you talking about the adjustments of
Alan coming and Angus in the future here for this group?

TOMAS:	Absolutely!   Those are two considerations.  And also in the greater
community here it is the practice for some of you to relocate to warmer climes
for awhile and that alters your meeting places.  There are, as you pointed
out, a greater number of transmitters in your arena now, and there will be
more, and this brings into being a consideration of expansion of capability
insofar as your schooling is concerned, if I may use that word, for has it not
been said, "Too many cooks spoil the broth" and someone, if we are going to
carry on in this manner, needs to ask questions and be the listener.

Now I would propose that we begin to learn planetary administration.  Before
you all become alarmed, I am going to remind you that one must always begin at
the beginning with baby steps and we are in an ideal circumstance here and
upcoming where we can develop some of those sensitivities of leadership that
will allow our community here to become efficient and excited about its own
ability to participate in the development of the Kingdom as it is understood
by its constitutents in this room and in our arena and in the greater
community.  

And so indeed there are adjustments coming, as indeed there always are.  But
as we ascend, as we master the lessons, we are able then to step up to the new
plateau of learning and therefore teaching and, of course, of being!  Has that
answered?

RACHEL:	Quite wonderfully so!  Sounds like we're going to be organized!

TOMAS:	I assure you we  have a long time to practice.  No one need worry that
we are going to go off on a power trip, but we will have fun and we will
learn.  Perhaps you might call this laboratory experience or mock trial.

RACHEL:	I just have this sense of coming together up around this area.  

TOMAS;	There have been been many seeds planted here.  It cannot help but
produce good fruit.

RACHEL:	I feel compelled to move myself up here.

TOMAS:	Perhaps you can engage the midwayers to enlist the aid of some of the
locals in need of your services to be aware your presence and availability and
this might in fact bring about some connections.

RACHEL:	I'm certainly praying to be put to work and to be connected where I
need to be.  Well, I'm running out of questions, Tomas.  Anybody else?

PEARL:	It is a time for beginnings.  The earth is still under a restful place
but soon it will sprout, new things will happen.  Accept and be open to
changes.  It is wondrous to see the changes in the group, in your lives, and
in the spring it is wonderful to see people come out and love life, and so
watch this spring and when you see a flower bud, a couple holding hands (even
an OLD couple holding hands), remember the Father has love to give you in your
new beginnings.  With Father there is faith and trust, even when the
beginnings are a little bit frightful.  Stand in His light.  

Tomas, are you done for the night?

TOMAS:	No, I have a number of meetings yet to attend to.  

ERATA:	But here!  Are you done for the night with us?

TOMAS:	I would like to say how nice it is to sense your  presence again with
us, Pearl.  It is very good to have Erata back in our embrace and to have the
solidarity of the Evangelical Corp of women in earnest application again in
good faith of our purpose.  And so I say to  you, Carry On!  I will, along
with Merium, say good night.