[tmtranscripts] 01-14-01 SPOKANE TEAM - 2

[ZooidODell at aol.com]

AARON: Aaron here.  I'm wondering why, Paulo, you would even suggest we 
continue using old adages, if "all things are becoming new"?

PAULO: Alright then, young fellow, I will tell you why.  Because I'm aware of 
the human propensity to find ways that work, and one of the things that work 
is to get their attention, and once you have their attention, you can work 
with them.  And one of the ways of getting people's attention is to use an 
adage or something that every-one has heard so many times it is not a threat, 
and then once they've got a sense of your normalcy, your "regular guy"-ness, 
you can embellish it with a greater reality.  

Although I agree with you, Aaron, it is another opportunity to find a new way 
to address things.  Originality is something that comes from an appreciation 
of uniqueness.  It's not necessary to rely on the words of others or the 
phrases that have been tried and true.  New phrases are coming into being 
right and left.  The whole language is undergoing many changes because we 
need to keep up with the growth that is coming about because -- yes, in part, 
technology, but also because -- there are major changes in your values, your 
ethics, and this is a result of the Correcting Time - the overt stretch to 
secure and implement spirit reality into the material plane.

And I'll add one more thing for Aaron, that being that inasmuch as there are 
inherent limitations in the human existence, there are only so many ways in 
which concepts can be worded, like "there's nothing new under the sun."  
Well, that's so very relative, you know.  There are a lot of new things under 
the sun, only because they haven't been thought of by you before, whereas 
they're not especially new to me, for I can see how the reality has been 
around a long time but people have not been aware of the reality or have not 
used the reality to its full purpose or to its true use, so things are really 
changing, constantly changing, metamorphosing.  Yes.

Well, where were we?  We were having a conversation here with the group that 
I've been introduced to.  Aaron, have you met Sivad?  Sivad have you met 
Aaron?

SIVAD: Not in this manner, no.  I've followed your comments and I'm delighted 
to greet you in this context. 

* * * * * 

AARON: Same here.  I'm glad to meet you.  I'm always glad to make a new 
friend.  I enjoy the avenue we've been given to develop relationship.  There 
are almost unlimited opportunities here in this regard, for even though there 
are many people who seem to be alike, there are still those elements of 
uniqueness about each creature that make the acquaintance a new adventure.  
And in getting to know each new individual is inherently an opportunity to 
imbue yourself into certain realities such that you become enamored of their 
soul, thus you fall in love with new people all the time.  

This rather brings it down to a basic common denominator, for if you can 
speak the language of love you can get over any interim humps of language 
barriers that get in the way.  They then only present opportunities to find a 
more pure way of expressing / communicating what you want to convey, but I 
find it true, too, that when people have met and learned to love each other, 
the play is the thing from then on, and the new purpose is to find somebody 
new to love, to draw in others, to incorporate those that have not been met 
yet by the spirit, so that the family of God extends, expands, increases.  
It's a universal invitation to the dance.  

SIVAD: (indistinguishable)

AARON: Yes! And you will find all kinds of adventurous opportunities to 
encounter new people when you have an opportunity to travel.  You have 
automatically presented yourself new options, new opportunities, new 
challenges to get into the hearts and minds of others, in order to commune 
with their soul.  

I assumed that, and I'm reminded I'm assuming. 

I'm going to borrow on what Paulo said and say that sooner or later it's okay 
to accept the underlying thread of our existence and that is associative 
Deity and in this it is appropriate to assume, inasmuch as it isn't necessary 
to attempt to convert or enlighten every one you meet.  If you are beholding 
the presence of God, you don't need to try to introduce him to God.  It is 
here that the fraternity seeks again to extend into the unknown.  The theory 
almost presents a universal law that once perfection is attained, or once God 
has been found, the instant urge is to extend Him /It into the unknown, into 
that which has not yet been made aware of Him or been formulated in His 
image.  

SIVAD: I would speak to inquire with all of you present.  I am reminded of 
the use of the term "associative Deity".  I've often overlooked the term 
(indistinguishable) ... derived from ... as if pages in a book ... separated 
... and in every molecule of experience, whether smallest or the greatest, it 
is nonetheless the same, for is it not ... our Father in which He remains a 
projection of His greatness?

TOMAS: Oh, yes.  Almost as an organism.

SIVAD: And yet as we ... (indistinguishable) [this is a question about the 
unqualitied Absolute] ... and so it is I would inquire a question that I want 
to present perhaps .. Why it is it is not so much the complex situations as 
... (indistinguishable)  
TOMAS: You are speaking of two faces of God.  The existent I AM and the 
evolving Supreme.   Which is more important?  They are two sides of the same 
coin.  
SIVAD: Who is speaking?

TOMAS: This is Tomas.  I am responding, but I am in harmony with my brethren. 
 Often we are of different opinions, but in certain areas it is true that we 
speak as one.   In this case, I, Tomas, am a mouthpiece for our unity. 

SIVAD: Tomas, what my question is derived from is the observation of locating 
religion as a thing rather than an experience.  Rather than seeds we have 
cultivated, nurturing, (indistinguishable) there is at stake, especially of 
our material nature, to expand the thing that we see as associated.  
Sometimes the experience or function, ... and it is this tendency I ... turn 
that ...  (Indistinguishable).

TOMAS: That is correct.  It is easy to affirm the strata of value is in the 
degree of capacity.  The words earlier about one who has traveled come back 
to me.  The one who has never gone far from their village may regard religion 
as one thing for they have had no exposure to any other appreciation of what 
religion might be. But to the one who has been around and has seen how many 
ways there are to regard religion, all the way from an academic study to a 
poignancy of experience, are able to have a more liberal appreciation for 
what religion is and can be.  

SIVAD: I would venture another question which is in regards to the attempt of 
the ... past to actually observe and understand ... (indistinguishable) I 
know this is ... but nonetheless, there is an observation that encompasses 
the totality of creation, the triodities of potentiality in certain ... but 
is there not On High a science of the Unqualified Absolute as there is a 
science of matter ... and is it not ... (indistinguishable) ... mathematical 
in nature ... and would not more ... a picture, an observation, an 
appreciation ...of providence, as it is ... (indistinguishable)?

TOMAS: Yes, indeed, and I, like you and with you, can and do and will 
speculate on what these may be.  But the overseeing of the unfolding of all 
of this expansion of cosmic reality and deity is beyond our comprehension, 
even while we begin to perceive the reality of its actuality, and no doubt we 
will all gain a greater appreciation for some of the orchestration of these 
converging realities as we begin to master the subjects which will be 
presented to us in our advanced studies after we leave the local universe en 
route to Paradise. 

For there will be greater learning of this ... what shall I call it? ... 
mechanism of respiration, the universal lung that breathes out and breathes 
in the life of the organism of all that is.  This is clearly hypothetical and 
can be appreciated by an attempt to understand how the spirit integrates all 
of these extensive levels of reality and coordinates them into some symphonic 
crescendo that will culminate in the divine chord at some future point in 
time.  

SIVAD: It seems the perfect integration or unification of unique 
(indistinguishable) that lays the foundation of ... ascension ...    

TOMAS: Surely, and that is not only personal but pre-personal.  There is 
strata of reality that we have yet to begin to appreciate, but assuredly we 
will be made aware of more as we advance, as the universe is an unending 
adventure, exploration of a panorama of divinity attainment that we are 
allowed to take part in and encouraged to provide.  The more you become aware 
of, the more capable you are of managing that which you have grasped, until 
one day you will have a grasp on all of creation, and then you will be 
standing face to face with the Universal Father, as a part of the First 
Source and Center.  

However, in the interim, how you live your life moment by moment is the true 
earmark of your attainment.  

We are encouraged by your interest and rejoice in your company.  You will 
relish opportunities to meet more and more real fellow travelers as you 
sojourn and ascend.  I look forward to our company, even as we conclude this 
afternoon in anticipation of our gathering again on the morrow, and in the 
interim, it is our joy to know you are in our arena and in company with those 
of us who will hold you close to our heart in enjoyment of you, Sivad.  We 
take our leave.

GROUP: Thank you Tomas, Aaron and Paulo.

TOMAS: Farewell.