[tmtranscripts] 10-13-01.SPOKANE TEACHER BASE

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Date: October 13, 2001
Location: Spokane, WA
T/R: Gerdean
PAULO discusses current events
A RECORDER discusses Oasphe


PAULO: Give yourselves some slack!  Paulo here.  Good to be back.  I've 
missed a few chapters in your saga; however, these life lessons can be picked 
up where we left off, as truth is ever revealing, ever unfolding, ever 
constant, alive and growing.  It's therefore virtually impossible to get a 
fix on anything for very long, and anything you do manage to get a fix on, 
instantly is out-dated because of its very crystallization, but you can't 
blame a guy for trying, especially in these provocative times when War and 
Peace are so visible as potential realities, and when religion is a part of 
the political and sociological scene, such as it is in your arenas today.

You can't ask for better than this: to have far-reaching perspective.  

Here's the value of knowing your history, for even though you gain much by 
your existence in the eternal NOW, you gain perspective when you see the 
farther view, from whence you've come and thus you can conjecture at length 
on how you feel you'll go as an advancing race.  Historically speaking we are 
at another revolution.  

I was going to talk about being rebellious as a response to what's going on 
in your world, but rebellion is not necessarily the same as agitation, even 
though in the immature, agitation often leads to rebellion.  It's as if you 
must do something, even if it's wrong.  And religionists have been doing this 
for ages.  Killing each other in the name of goodness.  In a way it's a 
symbol of the conflict of evolutionary growth, for there is no growth without 
conflict.  That doesn't necessarily mean war, and armaments, but it does 
imply conflict and resolution.  And so these times are a time of mental 
stimuli.  Many thoughts and philosophies are being pushed around and played 
with, weighed, evaluated, assimilated, discarded, as if a discussion of the 
many factors involved in the world situation as you perceive it, is going to 
give you the all-knowing perspective that will allow you to resolve the 
matter for your own peace of mind, if not for peace on earth.

How does that happen?  "Peace on earth."  How does it happen over an entire 
globe?  It begins in your own heart when you cease to be in conflict with 
yourself, when you have aligned yourself appropriately.  Appropriate to whom? 
 Aye, there's the rub.  Appropriate to the whole.  But the whole has to be 
adequate in order for that kind of commitment to take place, and at this 
point, we haven't begun to garner the unity that yields the loyalty that 
transcends the separation that allows the whole to be.  

This is the stress, of course, on why it is that everyone become 
God-conscious, spirit-led.  Even though intellectually it may be perceived 
different with each individual, in the essence of the spirit, harmony is the 
net result.  Even today if you were to all set aside your intellectual 
differences, we would have peace on earth.  But since none of you are willing 
to set aside your opinions, it's necessary for us to have this growth, this 
conflict that can resolve values such as we are grappling with in order to 
have a greater appreciation for what it is we truly aspire for.  

This is a sociology matter.  It's the brotherhood of man.  It's Human 
Associations. It's about how people get along.  It's about the fruits of the 
spirit ("And by your fruits you shall be known") even while your philosophies 
may vary greatly and your theologies be at complete odds.  It is said that if 
you are to have faith, then have it to yourself.  In this way you aren't 
arguing your ideas, you are living your beliefs - and those are values, 
meanings and ethics - not tenets.  If you want to argue tenets, you're 
talking politics.  

There are no two of you alike, and thus no two of you share precisely the 
same thoughts.  Each of your perceptions has your personal slant. It's not 
possible for all of you to have the same theology because it is so personal.  
It is intensely personal, inasmuch as it is the umbilical cord of your 
identity with reality, however those are perceived.  This is why people die 
for their faith and what they believe in.  It has reached the point of that 
is who they are; they live it so completely.  

If you understand your fellows, you will eventually find their motives and 
this will lead to an appreciation of their humanity such that your heart will 
be open to embrace the similarities you share, the values that are at the 
heart of you each, even as you differ in philosophy and approach. \

Education is extremely important, but education is as much of a weapon as is 
religion.  You can browbeat a people with knowledge and only alienate their 
affections.  Knowledge is living and needs to be shared, socialized.  
Socially speaking it's a long process, and spirit can accelerate the process 
considerably by allowing for sudden leaps of faith and insight into 
situations that result in understanding and thus resolve.  

All of us want to know resolve, and have peace of mind.  It's difficult 
enough, ascending these planes of existence, without battling everyone along 
the way.  That we all battle inside ourselves in the good fight of faith is 
adequate struggle, but as long as humanity prefers to reach for reality 
outside himself, and project his own conflicts onto others, are we 
inconvenienced by these revolutions of conflict as we are viewing in your 
world today.  What can I do to help?  Any questions?  What are your concerns?

THOROAH: Peace on earth must, relatively speaking, almost be like heaven on 
earth, to get to the point where a peaceful earth will take a giant 
transformation.

PAULO: Well, isn't it a matter of surpassing your animal nature and isn't 
that a fair parallel of the ascension plan, to make the spread between life 
implantation and the attainment of light and life, thus the goal of the 
inhabited worlds?  So to the extent that you continue to experience war, that 
is the extent to which you have attained mastery, as a race of people.  Some 
worlds, some races on some worlds, have established a policy of segregation 
from the more warlike in an attempt to differentiate themselves.

THOROAH: How do you separate yourself from warlike people?  They have a 
tendency to invade you.  

PAULO: It must be done early on.  It's referenced in the text   [Page 804.  
"The ‘golden rulers' may establish a progressive society in which they live 
according to their ideals while maintaining an adequate defense against their 
benighted fellows who might seek either to exploit their pacific 
predilections or to destroy their advancing civilization.] where it talks 
about those who would choose to live a peaceful life, have a right to 
separate themselves from those who would take advantage of their natures, and 
this is where defense is appropriate as compared to offense, which continues 
the cycle, but it's rare that you find a people who are willing to "turn the 
other cheek."

THOROAH: Historically, the United States has been on the perceived side of 
justice, freedom, human rights, etc.  We seem to have taken the defense 
initiative to a certain level and then pulled back, sometimes maybe 
criticized for holding back, in that we have allowed the problem to remain by 
pulling back.  How do you look at the United States as peace maker?  Are they 
a peace maker or are they part of the problem?
 
PAULO: I don't want to give an "either/or".  I don't want to say the United 
States is bad or good.  For it has its strengths and its weaknesses.  It is 
known throughout the world for its involvement in global affairs, but not 
always is its involvement favored.  Sometimes it's regarded as an intrusion, 
an invasion.  If you were to personalize the United States, give it a 
personality, and picture it being a grand manor at home but hob-nobbing 
throughout the neighborhood much of the time; there are those who say she 
should go home and mind her own business and quit meddling in the affairs of 
the neighborhood, while there are those who truly appreciate the services and 
the invigoration that comes from her visits.  

It's a matter of personality presentation.  What would compel you to go to 
your neighbors house and offer your assistance or defend your property 
against their aggressions?  Where does one draw the line in terms of social 
justice?  The answer is premature inasmuch as it is difficult if not 
impossible for you to rightfully judge your neighbor's behavior in and 
through your own view, but as a civilization, if you have a band of people 
who share your views and this band of people has power in the civilization, 
then as a civilization it may choose to act on behalf of its citizenry 
whereas individuals are unable to do so.  

So your conflict is unfinished growth. You haven't become a world society of 
people with a world government that can keep the peace by global law.  You 
don't know each other well enough as nations to understand each other.  Your 
cultures and religions are so different as to set each other up as if you 
were enemies, in a situation where fisticuffs is the only resolution.  You 
would have far more power to act if you were acting as global citizens.  But 
to the extent that religious differences, political differences, national 
differences, economic differences, language differences, etc, etc, continue 
to render you strangers to each other, your attempts at human brotherhood are 
aborted.  

Again, education is a viable answer.  Ignorance and prejudice stand in the 
way of growth.  As prejudice dissolves because ignorance is enlightened, 
peace can prevail because understanding is possible.  So we're in the realm 
of the mind.  And all of your minds are in a tailspin, working overtime, so I 
say "Give me some slack.  Give yourself some slack."  There's a lot to think 
about, a lot banking on this episode in Urantia history, and the spiritual 
climate is as electrically charged as it has ever been, while the danger of 
physical annihilation is running high temperatures also.

No wonder we are here to teach you to be teachers.  There is so much to be 
learned.  So much reality to be impressed upon the people of Urantia.  So 
much reality needed to compensate for the centuries of unreality, which have 
held you in its grasp.  What we can be glad of, however, is the quality of 
the Universal Father that allows its children to allow divinity to work in 
the lives of men and women even unconsciously, so that the reality of God is 
alive and well, even when the people themselves remain in ignorance.  

All this worry leads to tension and sometimes good arguments are ways of 
filing down the rough edges of a tense situation so that you can let go a 
little and laugh a bit, as a safety valve against destruction, but it takes a 
God-knowing constitution to keep a conversation in the bounds of good grace, 
not forgetting that you are fellows, not enemies.  So when you see someone 
having a heated conversation, don't assume it's going to erupt.  Be at peace. 
 Have your own resolve.  Maintain your own faith.  Know who you are, and know 
what time it is in terms of your personal frame of reference for reality.  If 
you can keep that focus, you can help bring about peace on earth faster by 
merely being anchored in the living water.  

Well, I have been all over this planet in all kinds of situations and 
conferences.  I have the advantage of not having to use your transportation 
system.  Anything else I can do for you here while I'm in the neighborhood?  
I haven't been around for awhile.  I know some of you were wondering if I'd 
gone home.

THOROAH: I'm glad you're back.
PAULO: I've just been very busy.

THOROAH: I'm sure.  I have a question about something I was reading today, 
having to do with perhaps an intended revelatory work that didn't quite make 
it, called "Oasphe"?

PAULO: Yes.

THOROAH: I haven't seen it.  Actually maybe I've only heard of it once 
before.  It had been intended - from what I read - to be a teaching tool, 
sort of complimentary with the Urantia Book for a stage in our evolution, but 
something evidently happened to the Oasphe.  It never had its intended 
impact. 

PAULO: I was not familiar with that tome.  It wasn't part of the briefing I 
got.  But I have heard of it and I know for a fact there are a few copies 
left in existence.  I haven't got, therefore, a response for you.  Perhaps I 
could find someone in the wings.  Wait a moment.

THOROAH: Thank you.

RECORDER: This is a recorder.  I will record for your information the tome 
entitled "Oasphe" was intended to startle humanity into an awareness of what 
work was required, as if it were a depiction of the worst case as compared to 
the Urantia Book best case scenario.  It was entirely too negative.  It 
attracted only those who found pleasure in perverting the accidents of time 
into an indictment against free will and, again, our father's ascension plan. 
 If the rebellion had not taken place, if the Adamic default had not 
occurred, the Oasphe would not have come into existence, but a fifth epochal 
revelation to humanity would have, regardless.  Fortunately, humanity truly 
is quick to discard its recollection of pain.  In the attempt to malign the 
Creator, their instilled hatred for divine goodness persisted such until 
recently.  Today there is some residue vicarious thrill in viewing the 
grotesque, bloody, deformed results of tragedy, but for the most part that 
appetite has gone the way of things long since past and no longer holds quite 
the lure it once did.  In the mind of those who compare the Urantia Book and 
Oasphe in the main, they are discerning the old polarity of good and evil as 
a natural part of the whole, whereas it is commonly understood in more 
advanced circles that this is erroneous.  It is all light, and the light will 
vanquish the darkness.  

THOROAH: Does that explain the comparison of the two as male-female 
counterparts, good and evil counterpart thing?

RECORDER: Inasmuch as it is based on an old yin/yang paradigm, yes, very 
likely, but it is conjecture only that would allow for that conclusion, for I 
am not personally cognizant of that source, that perspective.  

THOROAH: Then that perspective that I read today was talking about the fact 
that there are indeed perspectives that come to us from the spirit side.  I 
think maybe we as humans think that because you are a spirit that you know 
everything, and sometimes we're surprised when we find out that you don't.  
We also think that you have instant contact and can find out anything and 
that isn't necessarily the case and that you and he have a perspective on the 
universe which might not be the same as another spirit.  

RECORDER: Indeed, it depends upon who we are talking about.  There are those 
who do know virtually everything, and there are those who have only their 
area of technical expertise to concern themselves about.  There are 
messengers who convey information and yet don't retain it for themselves.  
There are living libraries.  There are circuits and personalities of an 
infinite variety.  And yet, in the caliber of an epochal revelation to your 
world, every concern is factored in as you  have seen by your appreciation of 
what was involved in selecting the lineage of Jesus of Nazareth to be the 
stage upon which he lived out his seventh and final bestowal.  The same is 
true for your fifth revelation, the information pertinent to your spiritual 
comprehension of your place in the universe, geographically as well as 
cosmically, is intact and complete.  In time, of course, you will discover 
the many related threads that help tie in this revelation to the evolving 
comprehension of world history, including its cosmic side.  In this way you 
will learn to appreciate the revelation even more as time goes by for its 
contribution to your comprehension of you and your world when it was given.  
It does not make the revelation less because more has been revealed, just as 
Jesus revelation to Urantia is made less by his ascension to Salvington and 
the effects of his life and bestowal here only now coming into play as part 
of the unfolding pattern of perfection for your world.  

THOROAH: I read someone say today that the helpers, our spirit helpers have 
moved into a new phase so that they are here to ratify things that we are 
discovering for ourselves, rather than to – for awhile there it was not 
necessarily the case, but now if we know how to ask questions – it was 
emphasized knowing how to formulate good questions, will get us good answers. 
 Not necessarily the crystal ball gazing thing, but if we know how to 
formulate questions, I know our teachers have been saying that for a long 
time.  Is that the case?

RECORDER: Yes.  It's otherwise as situation of whetting your appetite, and 
when you develop a hunger, you will voice what it is you hunger for.  Then 
the real meal begins.  I will return you to Paulo.

PAULO: Yes, of course, Thoroah.  The teachers come in and teach, as if they 
were lectures or approved curriculum, and in time, as your understanding 
begins to formulate into a reality, you want to expand that perception of 
reality.  But it takes a mental exercise in order for you to wrap appropriate 
words around the concepts you seek to have elucidated.  It's an education. 
(Yes.)  And when you begin to ask specifically, you are revealing how your 
mind is operating.  You are revealing that your mind is operating! And then 
we can begin to co-operate.  It puts it in a more participatory partnership 
frame of reference than a passive absorbing of values, as a dry sponge 
absorbs water.  And learning how to formulate questions is like finding the 
prince.  Sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs and ask a lot of dumb 
questions before you begin to feel the results of your efforts, not in warts, 
but in substantive morontial reality.  

One of the most irritating things to new students is the assurance of a 
teacher who smiles a lot and giggles in delight of being, for no apparent 
reason.  In this, the student is stimulated to fight for this kind of 
self-awareness that would give him so much inherent glee.  

I'll come with you, Gerdean, to the Psychic Fair.  I'll bring some of my 
rookie students.  We'll exercise our skills as you present yourself in 
service to the Metaphysical Research Society.  We are sure to have fun and 
sure to plant a seed now and again.  That's a fair day's work.  

GERDEAN: Thank you, Paulo.
THOROAH: That's good news.

PAULO: Well, it's part of my assignment here, to venture out into the greater 
arena and bring home some truths.  Anything else?  

THOROAH: That's enough for this week.  Thank you, Paulo.

PAULO: Yes, perhaps you've had your appetite whet once more.  We'll see you 
around.  Farewell.


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