[tmtranscripts] Rio Rancho TeaM - 5/26/02

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DATE:             May 26, 2002
LOCATION:    Rio Rancho, NM, USA
TEACHER:        TOMAS 
TOPIC:            One Happy Family
TEACHER:        PAULO
TOPIC:            Taking After "The Old Man"
Q&A:              Does Rebellion Have Value?
                      The Danger of Pride
                      Opportunity for Sin-Expression
                      Memorial Day          
TEACHER:        ANATOLIA
TOPIC:            Abundance of Association
Tr:  Gerdean

TOMAS:  Good afternoon, faithful friends.  I am Tomas, your companion in 
these experiential learning sessions, wherein we review what our life is 
about, according to our perceptions at any given moment, and today in this 
gathering I perceive the essential elements of Human Association in full 
sway, a "harmonic convergence" of happy souls, indeed One Happy Family. 

Welcome, all of you who are comprising this family configuration in this 
Teacher Base this afternoon.  No one is a stranger here.  Everyone is 
welcome, as Our Father has prepared a feast for all to enjoy and those of you 
who have come to partake of our ambiance and association in spirit reality, 
are treasured participants in the experience of learning the Art of Living 
through good humor and self-mastery.  

Well, savor this a moment, folks, and recognize how it feels, for this is 
truly a plateau of relative perfection which can be a photograph of your 
participation together in the Evolving Supreme, a photograph that you can 
refer to as exemplary of a family gathering, having Michael and Nebadonia as 
our Parents.  

In such a setting as this, supported by one another in affectionate regard, 
inspired by the associaiton of like-minded individuals whose imaginations are 
stimulated by the creative energies resulting from your social intercourse 
and the proximity to divinity, you would not feel any need to stir up trouble 
or agitate each other in an attempt to derive satisfaction at others' 
expense.  In this environment of the Family of God, you have only care for 
each other and a desire to further good will, by taking an interest in each 
other and their sundry concerns.  

How can anyone see anything but potential greatness emerging from such a 
culling together of human beings who seek to do the divine will and live as 
siblings?  Even so, there are evidently lessons to be learned in the 
alternative, as is elucidated in the Urantia text on page 51 where it 
discusses the inevitabilities.  And so perhaps it is inevitable that we have 
a teacher with us who has made a specialty of his topic of study, that being 
rebellion, and so I introduce to you our visitor today, Teacher Paulo, whose 
words are a welcome addition.  I will return.

PAULO:  Paulo here.  Don't be afraid.  I'm not coming in with pugilistic 
intentions.

Thoroah:    Good to see you, Paulo.

PAULO:  Good to see you as well, Thoroah, and all of this spectacle of 
individuals.  It's truly a pleasure to be invited to be a guest Teacher in 
your midst.  Usually I am called upon in the throes of conflict.  I 
unfortunately am a bit of a referee, if you will, in many of the situations 
in your world which require a faction of divine intervention.  I've been very 
busy in the mid east and the holy land, and without going into that, I will 
focus my attention on my work today, now, and that is this class, these 
individuals, indeed you.  

How marvelous to have a formal question submitted and to be requested.  Thank 
you, Sir David.  Thoroah will you please convey our brother's question for 
the record?

Thoroah:    "I have a question for Paulo, your resident expert on rebellion.  
It is:  

"If rebelliousness is a quality that seems natural to us humans, is there a 
divine value contained or hidden in it?  We know that it is natural for 
teenagers, when testing their wings, to be rebellious.  We also know 
according to the laws of physics called entropy, that things at rest resist 
moving and things in motion tend to continue moving.  

"Our teachers are constantly admonishing us to welcome change with love.  We 
know of the angelic orders of conservation and the orders of progress.

"So when things are out of balance, and the resources of power and the 
resources of wealth are out of balance, is it sometimes necessary for humans 
to rebel, to protest, etc, since we are the liberty loving sons and daughters 
of God, in addition to our heritage of being "Protestants" (read: protesters) 
and Americans who cherish freedom to speak out, to speak the truth?

"To wit: I think this subject leans to the complex, but I would love to hear 
how Paulo cuts through it."

PAULO:  Oh, you are a crafty fellow, aren't you?  You challenge me with all 
the muddled mental machinations of mankind at the moment.  Well, I can cop 
out by saying, "Tomas has already answered in his introductory remarks," and 
go back to work, but I won't.  I'll stay here and chat with you for a while 
-- not that I have any clear-cut answers! -- and yet, insights are such 
savory morsels.  

It would behoove us all to sit around and chew some of these ideas of the 
obstreporous, the cantankerous, the opposing point of view, the necessity of 
pushing out walls, pushing back limitations, and the like, for those 
certainly are tried and true methods of getting from Point A to Point B - 
maybe even to Point C or D, but - invariably these instinctual techniques 
tend to give you odds of two steps forward, two steps back.

Let's talk about the rebellion that is at the heart of most of your 
difficulties, and that is the rebellion engaged in which isolated your world 
for hundreds of thousands of years from your galactic kin -- not that you 
would have been engaged in any in-depth expeditions with your galactic kin 
anyway, but -- the Lucifer Rebellion is an epoch in your planetary history 
which has permanently - I say permanently - impacted on your growth.  

I cannot think of another example current to you that would give rise to the 
same principle, but let's just take a gross example of a woman who gets 
pregnant and in her second trimester becomes a drug addict, subjecting the 
foetus then to all manner of aberrated chemical contortions, and the child 
even so is born, appearing to be healthy, and yet having in it a 
predisposition toward addiction itself, as a result of its incubation in the 
womb.

All of you are altered as a result of the effects of Lucifer's rebellion.  In 
this context, it could be said that he in fact planted his seed in your being 
-- not permanently superceding your true Father, but effectively altering 
your "genetic composition" sufficiently as to give one cause to wonder what 
bad seed this might be - taking after, as he does, his old man.  All of you 
take after your old man, and we've come to shift gears, and learn, rather, to 
be like your Father -- your original Creator -- not that which has come to 
modify your behaviors forever.  

That scenario, true as it is, is also relative to the perspective of time and 
space.  By the time you attain Paradise, you will have by-passed, superceded, 
transcended, mastered, gone beyond these original moldings to be that which 
you can be, as you are becoming in this Melchizedek University.  But that 
does not mean to say that every rebellion that comes down the pike rises to 
such a level or should be accredited to Lucifer or his associates.

Indirectly, perhaps, it could be said tha a rebellious teenager is striking 
out against the traditions in which he was raised.  In Tomas' portrayal of 
you all here as a happy family, he suggested that none of you would rebel 
against the quality of life you have found here, that you create here, and he 
would be correct, but this small, isolated orb of light and life is a minute 
part of the overall and general reality that is in existence, that is still 
evolving, that has yet to attain such a divine level of enjoyment as this 
group enjoys here today.

Rebellion is many times simply a matter of stretching one's own wings and 
becoming more than that which was.

The difficulty with having a perpetual rebellious streak, buying into the 
concept that "you're just like your old man" and that "apples don't fall far 
from the tree," you can justify your arrogance and stubbornness and justify 
the ill-effects of others who also act irresponsibly and unethically, as a 
natural act, and in fact it is, for in all evolving worlds, even those who 
have not had a mishap the size of the Lucifer Rebellion, are still growing 
from a lesser root value to a higher root value, and this growth creates 
conflict, creates turbulence in the mind, in the emotions and in the social 
expression of such changes.

So a teenager rebelling is, in the main, a healthy behavior.  Even arguments 
for the sake of arguing is best regarded as an art form rather than an 
unhealthy preoccupation with disagreement.

Again, getting back to the difficulty of rebellion, and what to guard 
against, is the effects of the rebellion on others.  How extensive?  To what 
extent?  How far-reaching?  Lucifer's folly has affected you for hundreds of 
thousands of years for his folly was great, but whether or not you in your 
life and in your particular instance of rebelling against the status quo, may 
not affect all of humanity, may not even affect all of your household.  You 
may not feel the need to strike out or retaliate.  You may not feel inclined 
to manipulate the outcome.  These are the negative effects of rebellion.

It is said that fear is a great motivator.  And in the primitive days of your 
development as a race of people, the concept of food and shelter was indeed 
an early fear that motivated you to learn to hoard, hunt and herd in ways 
which would provide those necessities.  So yes, fear does motivate primally, 
but the Art of Living is motivated by love and a desire to do good to others. 
 It attains to the level of understanding the provisions of divinity.  When 
you seek to do His will, when you trust the path He has set out for you, you 
need not revert to animal fear for your motivation.  You need not respond to 
the fears of your fellows in the arena and play the games they play under the 
old rules.  

Everybody rebels against something -- some more than others -- and in the 
main, it's a reaction to the sense of being curtailed, constrained, limited, 
standardized, or ignored - which provokes your attitude.  The better 
motivator is that which is to be found in this Family of God which stimulates 
the creative imagination and upholds the values that are dear to you all, 
without the need for fear to nip at your ankles.  And this is the path 
provided by the Universal Father as compared to the shady lane that remains a 
result of "the old man."

What else has he got there in that question?  Something about Protestants.  
Protesters, yes.  I'm only going to dwell a moment on the evolution of the 
human animal to arrive at a point of peace-keeping, and encourage those of 
you who must revolt against the political sway, express yourself as Ghandi or 
Martin Luther King, Jr., or Jesus, and persevere through patience, peace, 
love, negotiation, understanding and prayer.  

And of course you can vote!  You can get involved in the existing political 
machinery and learn to tap dance effectively.  It's a positive thing you can 
do.  It's a way you can turn the other cheek.  It's commendable because it 
gives you an avenue in which you can take action.  It gives you a formidable 
foe to fight.  It's a principle to introduce and uphold as a superior way of 
going about experientially revealing the quality of win-win that comes from 
approaching your challenges positively, courageously, and constructively, as 
compared to a mere act of rebellion.

In other words, if and when you choose to rebel, rebel intelligently and 
mindfully rather than emotionally or as a reflex reaction to something 
someone may or may not have said.  

Anything else?

Thoroah:    Not from this source.

PAULO:  All right, then.  I'll go back to work.

Linda:  Can we ask you about your work, Paulo?

PAULO:  You can ask.

Linda:  I'm sure it's extremely difficult, given the mind sets that you're 
having to work with.  It would seem a little incomprehensibile to us that 
they should seek such a dramatic rebellion.  Are they coming around?  Is it 
working?

PAULO:  I will not predict the future.  If I answer your last remark, it 
might give an indication of how the election was going to turn out and it 
would be unfair media manipulation on my part.  The difficulties, however, 
are deep-seeded .  You understand what that means?  Deep-seated?

Deep-seated or deep-seeded, either one.  The deep-seeded aspect is as I 
discussed in terms of how it was that Lucifer implanted in you these seeds of 
malcontent and which are a part of you whether they are for your own good or 
not, and that you must identify and rise above.  Deep-seated is a racial and 
cultural condition, as if "from the seat of your pants" and you generally 
find this in nationalism or racism, and we're dealing with both factors in 
the current global conflicts

This is the danger of pride, whether it is racial pride, national pride, 
historic pride, commercial pride, or whatever.  As you marry yourself to a 
value, and hang on to it for dear life, even at the expense of your own life, 
your own happiness and the life and happiness of others, you have committed 
the same folly as Lucifer.  You've developed a love for what you think you 
are, over and above that which you can be by and through your divine 
inheritance.  It's an expression of desperation.  It's hardly evolved.  

If warfare were highly evolved, I would be out of a job perhaps.  Warfare is 
always a lose-lose situation.  Always.  Conflict may be growth promoting, but 
violence is destructive.  If we cannot engage each other as elements of a 
greater reality than our limited perspective, any peace is doomed, and so it 
is our unceasing effort to promote communications, communications that can 
begin to be effective because they have, as their footing, a new paradigm.  

As anyone reverts to the old paradigm of "the way it was," that's when hope 
for today and tomorrow evaporate.   And yet, in having respect for humanity 
individually, one on one, it is very difficult to NOT factor in a background 
which has had immeasurable effect on the personality of the individual you 
are discussing things with and the value lesson he presents through his 
heritage.  

It's, again, why Jesus'approach is the only approach that can work.  I don't 
mean to say that everyone has to believe in Jesus -- That could be a real 
stalemate in some of these situations. -- but what he taught, which is 
possible for everyone to appreciate -- the path of peace by following the 
Prince of Peace.

Oh, yes, now I see a scripture jumping up about "plowshares" and Jesus even 
saying that following him would surely lead you into the pathway of trouble.  
Well, this is true, and I won't recant my words, because who wants to be 
bored?  Who wants to have such refinement that there are no challenges left?  
How can anyone in this planetary arena conceive of there not being work to be 
done?  This is the challenge -- that we can regard this as work to be done on 
behalf of Community, a Family of God with Universal Father in charge.  

But if that's the case, then your modus operandi will be flavored with love 
and mercy and ministry, and not destruction, violence, or rebellion simply as 
a reaction to unfinished growth.

Let me leave you.  I will return and visit again.  I do enjoy our times 
together.  

Thank you, Tomas, for sharing your platform today.  However, I will return 
the podium to you, good teacher, to bring these ardent ears into a more 
musical composition to encompass the balance of the afternoon.  Enough work 
for now.  Good bye.

Group:  Good-bye.  Thank you, Paulo.

TOMAS:  (After a long pause.)  How is it that in hearing about rebellion, it 
sounds so ponderous, but as you are rebelling yourself, it feels like such 
fun?  (Group laughter.)

What has our Mother got to say about the situation, Thoroah?

Thoroah:    From the Urantia text [Random Quote for Saturday May 25]:

"The Divine Minister of Salvington issued as her third independent 
proclamation a mandate directing that nothing be done to half cure, cowardly 
suppress, or otherwise hide the hideous visage of rebels and rebellion.   The 
angelic hosts were directed to work for full disclosure and unlimited 
opportunity for sin-expression as the quickest technique of achieving the 
perfect and final cure of the plague of evil and sin."  [54:5.11]

TOMAS:  Now, that's what you call perspective.  Only a Divine Minister, a 
reflection of Infinite Mind, would realize that value and propose it as the 
best way to go about perfection attainment.

This is in response to the Lucifer Rebellion, and the mercy of delaying 
punishment for rebellion; indeed, the value of evil as a reflection of divine 
perfection.  

Here's a notation from this mind, that a mother, in keeping house, will not 
have you sweep the dirt under the rug, but rather would have you take the rug 
outside and beat it for all the neighbors to see how dusty it is in your 
room, and that's why it needs cleaned.  However, at your level of influence, 
it's unlikely the dust in your room would pollute the entire neighborhood.  
In fact, perhaps the neighbors wouldn't even pay attention to the fact that 
your room needed straightening, thus the remark that the Divine Minister's 
pespective on things is one which we might do well to appreciate, for how 
much the sanctimonious mortal enjoys his supremacy over the evil-doing of his 
fellows.

Indeed, this method of revealing the sin-expression potential is the way to 
human will choosing intelligently to do the divine will.  Why eat burned 
cookies when nice warm ones, fresh from the oven, are also available?  But 
you don't know a good cookie from a bad cookie unless you've had a taste.  
Nebadonia, our Mother, is a smart cookie.  (Group giggles)  Don't you love it 
when women make proclamations and they end up making sense?

Dorenda:    Always!
Angus:  Perplexing!

TOMAS:  Do I detect an underlying thread of rebellion here?  (Group laughter) 
 It is said that the relationship between men and women is a largely 
antagonistic existence, and this, I daresay, is an old wive's tale from the 
legacy of the old man.

Janet:  You're so right!

TOMAS:  The compatibility which has been built into the perfect balance 
between the male and the female is a gift which infuses the universe, which 
is not antagonistic, but through self-mastery and the Art of Living, is the 
standard for harmony and relationship throughout the spheres.  

There is another holiday now on your calendar.  You humans have a new holiday 
every Sunday, it seems.  What are we celebrating today?

Angus:  Monday!  We're celebrating Monday.
Dorenda:    Memorial Day.  We celebrate those people who have given their 
lives to secure our freedom.

TOMAS:  Along with that acknowledgement, let's celebrate those today who 
advance spiritual liberty.  Remember those who work to overcome the spoils of 
war, who work for peace, prosperity and perfection.  Celebrate the steps 
you've taken to attain this plateau of light and life for yourselves and for 
your peers.  Enjoy!  Weep no more!  Advance.  Farewell.

Group:  Thank you.

TOMAS:  One moment, please.

ANATOLIA:   I am Anatolia, an associate in this Teacher Corp.  I associate 
often with Matthew, my friend.  You see him here today in your midst as 
Willie.

Elena:      Hi, Matthew.

ANATOLIA:   I and Matthew have been co-workers, co-creators, co-conspirators, 
and we will be able to bring our energetic contribution to your Teacher Base 
here in due course, as we are a growing community here and it benefits us all 
to share the wealth.  The saying that "love is the currency of the universe" 
is certainly in keeping with my understanding of prosperity, and I delight in 
the treasure chest of riches I find here in your midst.  How we will enjoy 
this abundance and this association.  I will, however, withhold much of my 
anticipation and reveal it when and as I have another opportunity and 
transmitter.  Until we meet again, farewell.

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