[tmtranscripts] LIGHTLINE 4-15-04

Tom Newbill t.oldbill at verizon.net
Fri Apr 16 23:08:13 PDT 2004


LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE ...4-15-04

TEACHER: MACHIVENTA MELCHIZADEK

TOPICS: VOLUNTEERS...URANTIA BOOK MODIFICATION...NEW TYPE OF BEING

T/R: MARK ROGERS

Machiventa: I greet you. I am Machiventa Melchizadek and I accept this
honor, this priviledge that you extend to me to come into your lives and to
fellowship with you and to share spirit truths with you. In truth and in
deed it is you who make this circuit connection possible through the
excercise of your faith, you meet me on this plane of spirit, and this
action causes the miracle that we behold in the  connection that we enjoy,
even now in this moment.

For long periods of time on your world, this form of communication was
thought of as impossible and truly only a miracle could make such fantastic
things happen. And now you behold the consequences of your faith, the
miracle created before us as we are able to share in this fashion. Without
the excercise of your faith, you would not be here, this would not be part
of your reality. You would not be sharing this reality at this time, so we
honor those of you who will step up to the plate and excercise your faith to
overcome even your doubts and uncertainties, to strive forward for spiritual
growth and understanding against the currents of doubt and the tides of
confusion.    

It takes an experienced sailor to navigate the tides and the seas and the
currents effectively, and you have shown yourselves worthy seamen in
learning the tasks and manning the ropes of this vessel on this voyage of
discovery. In fact we work together, we work with the forces of the
universe, keeping the elements in our favor, the winds at our back. All
these forces combine to gently manipulate the reality to become exposed, the
reality of peace, the reality of brotherly love, the reality of spirit
awareness. One by one these realities and many more become illuminated and
we are able to incorporate them into our concept frames.

There is a new emphasis on the uncovering of these now dormant cosmic
realities and this endeavor will take trusted volunteers. That is where you
come in. You are the hands and the hearts and the mouths and the feet to
move this project forward. To make real in your lives and the lives of those
around you, these new levels of spiritual reality you've come to know,
you've come to embrace as real in your exerience. It is critical that you
embody these new spiritual realities, that you become one with these new
spiritual realities so that when they see you they see these new principals
in action. A deeper sense of love, a greater compassion, an enhanced wisdom,
all yours for the striving.

It is through gaining spiritual access that these principles become your
realities. Gaining spiritual access is accomplished through your discipline
of stillness, through your prayer, through your worship, through growing
close to that component of yourself that is spirit. Rely more and more in
that component of yourself so that you are willing to relinquish more and
more control to your spiritual aspect. Here is where you store the keys to
your successful living, your model of behavior. Through this spiritual
understanding you will overlay your old principals with a set of new ones,
greater ones, more enhanced ones, that  will stretch your limits of
understanding and acceptance.

These are truly glorious times to be engaged in this project. We have at our
disposal all manner of resources. We have before us unlimited potentials. We
are the ones acting here and now in this moment to bring about this new
spiritual destiny for this world. We are the ones who will act and walk and
move and talk and be these new principles. This is truly a  priviledge and
one I know that you as volunteers are well up to. When I walked among your
ancestors on your world, I had a group of volunteers that had no more
potential before them than we have in this hour, in this moment. All things
are possible and we are working in times where miracles will become standard
practice, but it is up to us to activate this circuit, when our feet are in
motion they may be guided, when our voice is activated, it may be directed,
when our hearts so move us, we may be emboldend.

Therefore do I look to the future with great joy and anticipation at the
wonderful fruits of the spirit that you will each manifest as you proceed
forward in life with a new sense of confidense, a new sense of spiritual
bravery, a new sense of spiritual reality. It will abide deep in your
hearts, deep in your souls. It will  motivate you to be about the sharing of
this spirit, the growth of your soul, the service to your brothers and
sisters. And so with this voyage before us there will be a certain destiny
of completion, but there will be all avenues of expression available to us
in the manner of our choosing. Truly an exciting journey to anticipate when
we are calling the shots and working with such great spiritual influences as
would be about the project of changing a  world, of bringing about a new
spiritual reality. Great are these times that we live in and we should
relish this priviledge and opportunity we have been given to be here
together in this time, on this place. Would there be any questions from any
listeners?

Q: I have a question if I could?

Machiventa: Please...say on.

Q: It has to do with the integrity of the Urantia book. I've recently
published a three volume set of part four and I've made some  minor changes
that I feel would help modernize it and make it easier to read and
understand as an introductory tool, hopefully to introduce people to the
whole Urantia book. Now in discussions I am having with some people, they
feel I haven't done a good thing, they disagree with it. I was wondering if
I could get some advice on that.

Machiventa: There was issued, quite a serious mandate to the contact
commission to make every human effort to keep the structure, integrity, and
content of the Urantia papers pure. Having this mandate in place, the human
individuals involved in the contact commission did their best to compile, to
edit, to include the papers in the Urantia book with the very best of
intentions and to the best of their abilities, and they fulfilled their
mandate to  fulfill their requirements. These requirements were not issued
to an institution, but rather to a set of individuals present, and
therefore does the discussion arise about the purpose of changing the text.

Each generation will have to take up this discussion on down through the
ages. Do we keep unchanged word for word the scriptures? Do we include
language that is common and normal at the time to make the message more
palitable? Do we remove sections which have become  politically incorrect?
These are ongoing issues that are good cause for discussion and debate. The
motivation that you have to be about the bettering of what you have to work
with is the premeire issue at hand and one can argue over the details of how
a motivated individual goes about doing better, but the spirit reality of
your  action is one of an attempt to be helpful, be fruitful, be beneficial
to the process. This motivation is well noted in the spiritual realm, but
nevertheless you have to answer to your brothers and sisters in the material
realm who may take issue with you rearranging or editing any part of the
text without giving complete credit to having done so.

You are free to editorialize and to comment to your hearts desire as long as
your additions and comments are clearly outlined as such and not indicated
as part of the text. Otherwise we look to motivation, we look to intent, and
we see no attempt in your heart to misconstrue, mislead, misinform, but
rather an attempt to massage and make more palitable, something you have
found worthy of passing on to others. We see your motivation as altruistic
and therefore see the fruits of your endeavors as positive and a noteable
first step in any direction. Does this help?

Q: Very much, thankyou.

Machiventa: Will there be any other inquiries or comments?

Q: Machiventa, I've come across concepts of fasting in my lifestyle and I've
noticed it's something mankind has done throughout the ages, and I've
noticed many people have reported powerful experiences as a result of going
into a fast. I know Michael, when here had some experiences as well. Could
you comment on, or explain this?

Machiventa: As you know about me, I too shared the human vehicle that you
now inhabit when I was among your ancestors and I therefore feel qualified
to address the issue as pertains to the human vehicle and the manipulation
of this human vehicle through outside forces. This as we know is affected in
many ways. One can fast, one can overeat, one can overdrink, one can
oversleep or undersleep or consume drugs to alter your state. All the
aformentioned things have been used in religious ceremonies throughout your
history.  This does not mean that any of those techniques are divinely
sanctioned as a method to get closer to spiritual prescense. By this I mean
to say that if you as an individual put your trust and your faith in a
particular method or practice, then that method or practice becomes to you
your comfort zone and whether it is done around a campfire in the woods, or
done as a method of consumption or dehydration on your part, it is merely
forms you decide upon as being significant to you.

Humankind experiments greatly with these different processes and their
affects on the human vehicle and spends what amounts to be an inordinate
amount of energy on the manipulation of their human vehicle and they find
what works best for them, what feels best, and they employ these methods to
provide themselves with the necessary environment wherewith they may feel
comfortable in approaching spirit. To approach spirit, in the strictest
analysis, you need nothing. However, the human condition suggests that you
provide yourself with things which are conducive to this experience so that
you may relive this experience again, that you may become close to spirit
again the way you were last time these circumstances occured or this ritual
occured, or this stimulation occured.

Therefore do you use these things as tools to provide the environment and
the stimulus you need to feel confident enough to cross over to spirit. You
will find that as this spirit connection grows stronger within your being,
you need less and less of the external influences available to you to access
your spiritual component. You will not need to be in meditation or in a
quiet place by yourself, alone in nature or anywhere else when you master
the technique of transition to spirit smoothly and effectively. Does this
help your question?

Q: Yes it does...a followup question...I'm curious to know why the Master
fasted when he was here? What were his intentions and his motivations?

Machiventa: It is true that by removing the intake source for temporary
periods of time, you access the energy otherwise required for the successful
digestion and internalization of the  energy source you have injested.
Therefore do you gain in perception and awareness, an energy boost by this
process, and it is a completely normal and natural process that is not
harmful when it is not overused. It is one of the better conditions to
involve yourself in because it also speaks to other character qualities such
as denial, control, will power, and strength to make these descisions and
carry them through. All this combined brings about a positive effect on the
human creature. It is the domination of will over animal, to withdraw
intentionally, nourishment, for a greater cause, and it is indeed that act
of faith which bridges the gap and makes it possible for you to experience
the enhanced spiritual perception more so than the act of the physical
impact upon your vehicle. You see how the two are intertwined?

Q: Yes, thankyou for that answer. I guess then that potentially for some
people this could be a positive excercise in connecting with spirit and
excercising your will power.

Machiventa: Absolutely, if it works for you, it works for you, and the
fruits will be spiritual fruits which will become evident. Individually
people experiment and try a vast number of things just like this and this is
one  well worthy of experimentation as it has many positive effects and few
negative effects.

Q: Thankyou Machiventa

Machiventa: Thankyou for your interest.

Q: Could you comment on the recently announced reality of the blending of
our new morontia bodies and our physical bodies, for those who have given
consent to their adjusters so that this procedure can take place.

Machiventa: This is what I referred to earlier as one of the miracles that
will come to pass. To those of you who are willing and courageous and
undaunted in your spiritual search, will be granted the unknown priviledge
of an experiment involving you and your vehicle and your faith component and
the cooperation and approval of your thought adjuster. If these aspects are
all satisfied, there will be a new reality dawn on this world and that will
be the mixing of spiritual component with the already existing individual.
This is where the development of your faith becomes the all critical factor
in the excercise of something of this magnitude.

It is not possible to be half-hearted about such an enduring descision and
therefore will it require the spiritually brave and confident individuals to
step forward to be the ambassadors of this new form comprised of the mortal
individual and the morontia associate and we will be witness to a new order
of citizen as we develop a  blended partnership between the mortal and the
spirit, between God and man. This is the ultimate partnership and we are
confident that the details of the manifestation of this reality will be made
apparent to us as we go about creating this miracle. We each one are
creative forces in this process. We each one have a contribution to make to
this level of spiritual reality.

We witness the creation of the miracle of this communication even at this
time and we call to witness that we will be steadfast in our faith when we
are asked to create this next phase of our reality together. We don't know
much about how this will come to pass, what this manifestation will bring
about in the manner of changes, but we are confident that this is Michaels'
plan, that this is part of our destiny, that we are participants, even
co-creators in this new reality, and we would through our stillness, through
our searching and finding and understanding, come to realization of these
spiritual principles in our lives to the degree that we can manifest these
new spiritual aspects as we are called to do so.

The book has not been written on what will occur. It is up to us as we look
to the future to make the calls, to put ourselves in motion that the
universe may guide us, that the forces may steer us. We simply trust that we
put ourselves in motion and we will be guided. That is our task, that is our
mission. Not to know all the plan, or even very much of the plan before us
at any one time but rather to trust in the plan, in the creator of the plan
who provides for us  all we ever need to succeed in this most glorious
journey, back to the First Source and Center from which we came.

I would draw this meeting to a close at this time.  I would thank each of
you who have chosen to be here and hear these wordds. They are meant for
you. I would recognize the contribution each of you make to this mission,
our mission, and I would thank you. I look forward to working with you in
the future as we have much to do. Thankyou all and farewell.




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