[tmtranscripts] 10-30-05.RR Walking Amid Trees

[John Stephan]

I would be interested in knowing what your wife the general surgeon thinks 
of the statement below?  Does she have any comment on this statement?

Nebadonia: "There has been a high degree of self-centeredness in some 
schools of spiritual thought that has placed the focus more on the self, and 
the idea of being self-focused inhibits the womanly natural tendency to give 
of herself, to feed, to nourish.  And in its deepest energy form, this is 
one of the fundamental causes of the high incidence of cancer in this 
particular area."

Sounds like a case of blaming the victim, instead of finding the true cause. 
  Maybee someone should channel an oak tree and see if it agrees?


From: "Richard Voss" <xroadtec at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [tmtranscripts] 10-30-05.RR Walking Amid Trees
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:10:30 -0800

Greetings all,

Recently, the teacher Merium spoke about the issue of breast cancer. The 
area in which I live, Marin County, which consists of several towns just 
North of San Francisco, has the highest incidence of breast cancer in the 
nation.  Several million dollars has been recently appropriated to find the 
reason for such a high rate of this cancer here.

My wife is a general surgeon and so I hear the stories of this disease 
daily. Because of this, I decided to ask Nebadonia why this cancer is so 
prevalent here.

I would like to share her reply. This is only a small part from a larger T/R 
session.

Take care,
Rick

T/R Donna D'Ingillo

4/02/04

R:  My other question is broader, and I'm not sure if an answer can be 
forthcoming, but it has been something weighing heavily on my mind for quite 
some time.  That concerns the high rate of breast cancer in this county of 
Marin, and the direct connection I have with it through my wife.  I would 
like to begin to have a better understanding so that I can direct the 
thought patterns around this issue to be more focused on what the real cause 
of this devastating problem is.

Nebadonia:  The breasts represent the giving of nourishment.  They are the 
food for the child.  They represent the giving of the woman of herself in 
unconditional love to nurture another human being.  They are representative 
of that innate action of the woman to feed, to nurture, to nourish.  There 
has been a high degree of self-centeredness in some schools of spiritual 
thought that has placed the focus more on the self, and the idea of being 
self-focused inhibits the womanly natural tendency to give of herself, to 
feed, to nourish.  And in its deepest energy form, this is one of the 
fundamental causes of the high incidence of cancer in this particular area, 
but it is not the sole.  It is, I would say, the underlying foundation that 
lays the framework for these disease patterns to blossom and predominate as 
it were.  In time, women will come to a deeper understanding of their role 
to their children and to the planet as a whole.  And the self-centeredness 
that has been a part of certain schools of thought will no longer 
predominate.  But this is a very insidious spirit poison and has diminished 
the role of women in this culture.  Do you understand, my son?



R:  Yes, I do.  In my heart I felt this idea growing.  I thank you for your 
clarity on this.  It gives me a better understanding.



Nebadonia:  And be in my peace.







   Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 5:46 PM
   Subject: [tmtranscripts] 10-30-05.RR Walking Amid Trees


   DATE: October 30, 2005
   LOCATION: Rio Rancho, NM USA
   T/R: Gerdean

   TEACHER MERIUM celebrates "The Wonders of Nature"
   AND A GUEST TEACHER takes us for "A Walk in the Woods"

    Elena: Well, I'm really concerned about my friend Shelley, who just 
found out that she has breast cancer so. Shelley has been my best friend 
since fourth grade, and so .

   Esmeralda: They have met her. Paula and Men-O-Pah.

   Elena: Oh, yeah, that's right!

   Esmeralda: And Gerdean and Reneau!

   Elena: That's right. At the retreat. So I'm concerned about her, and if 
there is any guidance about that, then I'm all ears. Well, I am anyway, but 
.

   MERIUM: There is nothing I can do to "fix" her, but I can certainly 
counsel you on how to fix your worries, and that is to allow the soul of 
your friend to be that breast that seeks to nurture. The soul of a woman is 
nurturance, as it comes from the Mother Spirit. My remark is not intended to 
be sexist, but to be expressive of the nature of the nurturer and to limit 
its fruit to the symbol of nurturing (the breast) is to limit the 
effectiveness of the whole being, which yearns to give love.

   Allow this woman to love, freely and fully. Be tolerant of her love. 
Encourage her expressions of love. Allow her to love in ways she has not 
allowed herself to love before - freely, openly, without constraint, without 
restriction, disallowing the mores to interfere or the restraints of 
convention to enter in. Allow the woman to be all that she was meant to be. 
I am not saying that a woman is a breast, but I am saying that both are born 
to nurture. It is the way of the woman. Allow her to be everything she has 
ever hoped to be.

   And I know that in this culture, this society "such a life on such a 
planet," it is very hard for people to be all that they can be, for it is 
hard to find the time, the energy and the avenues in which to operate that 
garner you that soul satisfaction that would feed your own need to nurture 
your own soul. This is the twist of fate that the woman is undergoing in the 
cancer that invades her. If she can see to learn to love and nurture others 
[at the same time] as she loves and nurtures herself, she may be able to get 
control of the situation. That is to say, her cells may be able to get 
control of the situation. But regardless, do not mourn for her, but 
celebrate her, for she is love. Elena: Thank you.

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