[tmtranscripts] FW: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE 9-01-05

[Tom Newbill]

SUBJECT: LIGHT LINE 9-01-05 TELECONFERENCE

TEACHER: MICHAEL

T/R: JERRY LANE

Prayer: Well here we are again, I could say gathering in but we seem to be
rather stretched out in space but we're all here to sit at your feet and
make this wonderful contact. We treasure your lessons for the insights they
give us but even more than that we just appreciate being here with you so
our devout prayer of this evening is to fill us with your presense. Help us
experience this phenomenal actuality that you are offering us now this way.
Feel our love for you and help us feel your love for us. Amen

Michael: This is Michael. This is wonderful being able to communicate this
way. As you know I had a choice amongst many many worlds on which to live
out my final incarnation as a human being and as you know, the technological
degree of advancement on these planets was quite various. If I showed up on
your world right now in the flesh, which some of you wonder why I did not
wait to do so, I could appear on television or in front of the United
Nations, something like this, but I deliberately chose to incarnate in such
a way that would be the most universal way amongst humans, simply walking
and talking, sharing the day together as we traveled from one place to
another on foot, being together over our meals, sleeping together, this is
the most intimate way and as you can understand, it was phenomenally
successful.

Think of my apostles and the faithful followers that stuck with me. It was
this face to face living together that really counted and when you think of
the hardships and the suffering that some went through in my name and with
the courage to spread the gospel, the good news of the Fatherhood of God,
just the raw courage it took for them to carry on when I was no longer with
them, I think you can see why I chose to appear on your world at the time I
did and how it definitely proved to be the most universal way of humans
sharing spirit face to face, day by day as we walked and talked.

Some also delighted to be able to speak to a number of you this way. My
children you are living through tumultous times as Mother and I have
expressed in our last series of lessons, the world is coming into a
spiritual fruition right now and some of the immediate effects of this are
kind [?] polarity, and the way this manifests in your personal individual
lives, evermore distinct choices, spiritual choices that are confronting you
and you can see about you how people are making these decisions, hence to
polarize them.

Some respond by clinging all the more tightly to a kind of what you call a
knee jerk, automatic reaction, but Mother and I both encourage you to keep
your wits about you. Don't be afraid to question anything, anything
whatsoever. Confront each day with all you posess, body, mind, spirit and
soul. Those of you [who] have been readling these transcrlipts realize that
this is one of the main lessons that we  have tried to convey is all these
dimensions you have within you and how you should not be at all shy about
bringing all you have to bear on each moment because the reality you are
involved in, God's creation, is absolutely unfathomable, every dimension, so
don't be shy about using, excercising all that you are to discover the truth
in each moment. Now I sense there are a lot of questions and comments out
there so I will, as you say, open the floor for whoever wishes to go next.

Q: Hello brother Michael this is Manu and I've had a question running
through my mind for a long time and wanted this opportunity to ask you. As
you know I grew up a Hindu and a question that arose in my mind and often
arises in other peoples minds I believe, is questions about the historical
or mythological figure known as Chrishna. My question for you is if you are
able to help me understand if there was a historical Chrishna? If there was
such a person, what was his relationship to the Godhead? Was he any kind of
incarnation, or any kind of information you can give me to help my own
understanding as well as to help me bridge the gap, whatever it might be,
between practicing Hindus and Urantia cosmology.

Michael: I think you can best understand Chrishna as a sum total of the
revelations to a number of individuals of the Godhead within them. In this
sense he is not a historical person but he represents that which the thought
adjuster of these various religious men served as a kind of a focal point
for them to pool their knowlege of who and what God is. In this you have to
keep in mind, that thought adjusters have been arriving and helping the
human race along for close to a million years now, and while it is true they
only came in great numbers once I released my spirit of truth, they have
always been here and they provided a core of belief clear across the
spectrum of humanity.

They were always here. They form so much a part of your history just as they
are so much a part of your life from your very earliest memories, so they
are the same with respect to the collective memory of all mankind. Does this
answer your question my son?

Q: Yes it does, thankyou very much, I appreciate it.

Q: Hello Michael, this is Felix.

Michael: Good evening Felix, welcome to the group here.

Q: Thankyou. I have a question. There is the possibility of me to be
relocating to the United States to the northwest area and I was hoping for
this and I thankyou very much because I understand that this is probably a
very good opportunity for service. I just wonder if it is true that it is in
line with God's will and if I will have good opportunities for service in
this area?

Michael: Well my son, this is one area in which as you are probably aware
from previous lessons, Mother and I can only help you in knowing your own
heart and your own desires. Descisions like this must be made fully by
yourself for you to excercise the fundamental reality of your personality.
We can only offer the suggestions that you look into all the alternatives as
well as as you can and this means knowing yourself, how do you envision this
service you wish to provide, and how much of this spiritual service your
heart calls you to is dependent on location.

I do not mean this lightly for wherever you are you are surrounded by souls
hungry for the truth. This truth you give most fully in your day to day
life, is in how you present yourself to your fellows. This is your greatest
service. So think about this in terms of this change, whether it really does
enhance your ability to serve and this can be influenced by all the other
factors of your life, your economic situation, your family situation, all
these come to bear. This is why devout prayer, opening your heart to your
Father fragment, your own deepest wlisdom, this is how we would excercise
you and have you bear the full weight of this descision.

This is your weight to carry my son, so be very clear about your
motivations, your own deep insight into yourself, into your own needs and
what you feel as your unique gift to give for it is within this
understanding that someday you wil be assessing this situation in the future
for you will be the one deciding whether it was a wise move or not. This is
how your soul grows and this is what you are capable of. Does this help you?

Q: Yes it does, thankyou very much.

Q: Michael, I'd like to hear some words from you on how I could be more
effective in my service and in balancing all the various areas of my life
and basically an assesment on being more effective.

Michael: Yes my son, I think the advice I would offer is one of being open
to your effect on others. You have to be courageous and stretch yourself.
Try things that you are not altogether certain of, in other words you have
to constantly let go of the past and open yourself to wonder what else you
might do that is effective. Really be curious, be lighthearted, play with
things a bit. Don't take yourself too seriously, loosen up, then as you try
things in this lighthearted manner it is the goodcheer you are able to
sustain within yourself, this real deep strength and courage of spirit is
what is the main part of the message.

It takes energy, it takes faith to constantly lay yourself on the line like
this to go that extra step, to extend yourself out there with good cheer and
support but then the next thing is to be totally open as to the response you
get and this even takes greater strength of dealing with people with an
equanimity. You are offering yourself, you are offering your good cheer but
then you are accepting totally, completely as instantaneously as you can
what you get back. This takes an equanimity and a balance within yourself to
accept whatever it is. It might be complete indifference, it might be
hostility, folks might feel that you are coming on to them, as you say, you
want something from them or you are trying to manuver them in some way.

Cynical folks might see this as some kind of weakness on your part, and then
you have those wonderful times when someone just comes beaming right back at
you and there is such a warmth and good cheer coming back to you that it
makes your whole day. This is the kind of balance, this is the kind of poise
it takes to be effective. You're really hanging yourself out there moment by
moment and then accepting completely what this other person has or cannot
offer back for in doing so you are granting them their freedom to be
themselves and just your very ability and graciousness in doing this is what
will win them over if this is at all possible.

If not you say a little prayer and wish them Godspeed in their endeavor. See
them as a complete person whether they can see themselves in this way or
not. I think you will find by far that this is the most effective way to
love another person. You offer then you open yourself to what they feel free
to do. Does this help you my son?

Q: Yes it does, thankyou Michael, it's just what I needed to hear.[ You are
very welcome.]

Q: Michael, some of us have felt called to help prepare for the advent of a
Magisterial Mission by buillding a training facility to train youngsters and
new leaders and new apostles. As we begin this project what considerstions
are of the greatest import to yourself and the Magisterial Mission and the
planetary administration?

Michael: Well my daughter, I think that what I just offered as advice for
how to present yourself to others coming from your spirit is the best
preparation. You teach and you carry the day by example, for as I say,
whether the people you meet are fully aware of all their dimensions such as
mind and spirit, your ability to see this in them and speak to them as a
whole person, that your thought adjuster communicates to theirs and be aware
of this communication yourself. Know that they have this whole soul they may
not even be aware of, but if you address yourself to them as a complete
being it does register. You are planting seeds.

It is the same way in which your prayer for a person does not in any way
intrude upon their free will. It's just a little boost of energy for them to
use as wisely as they can which is why it is a true gift. This is especially
true for youngsters who are not quite so completely formed yet. Your example
of how a person is living moment to moment for as you know they have their
own ways of testing you and these tests they are confronting you with are
for the most part unconscious. It is coming from a deep instinctual wisdom
of, let's see how this adult reacts, which is why from your own deeper
wisdom you need to be so forgiving of all these little tests they have for
you.

Your realize how unconscious so much of this is that they present you with
but it's coming from a deep instinctual wisdom. They need to test you, they
need to know how deep your faith is. They need to test this balance of yours
by giving you a little nudge every now and then or pulling some outrageous
prank on you just to see how you behave. Do you really mean how you are
presenting ourself. The last several lessons Mother and I have given you is
on a kind of mental toughness, resiliancy that allows you to be flexible and
very giving.

In a way it is good to go about in the world with a bit of a thick skin for
whatever is coming towards you, you don't take offense. As you have
experienced, you encounter a lot of expressions all through the day that
people are not aware that they are presenting themselves this way so, you
are constantly forgiving any member of minor slights, little abrasions to
your own sensitivity. Keep in mind this whole person in front of you,
especially a child who is not at all aware of their spirit yet, even their
own personality, but this is what you react to. This living example that you
provide is the most thorough preparation you can give especially within a
group like this. This is what carries the day. This is what instructs and
truly teaches. This is the greatest gift you have to give to them. Is there
any more precise details you would care to know my daughter?

Q: I think that's a wonderful answer and if I have one further question it
is how to begin this project? It feels as though the individuals involved
are being tried and tested in all the ways that you descrlibed young
children trying and testing we adults. It often feels as though we adults
are tried and tested by you. Can you speak further as to why you seem to
require your apostles to be willing to set everything aside in their pursuit
of servitude?

Michael: My daughter this is not what I require of anyone. This is what our
Father requires of us all. This is the cost, if you will, of faith. This is
an instrinsic part of faith, this is why faith means something, because it
does something. There is no other way to know what you are capable of doing
because what you are capable of doing in our Father's eyes, will always be a
bit of a surprise to you. You cannot know yourself in this way beforehand. I
think you recall in your text one of the morontia mota that you are given an
example of is that individuals can be enourmously wealthy in spirit and in
soul and experience but they refuse to believe it. It is our Father who sees
your full capability. He puts in front of you the contours and shapes
reality in such a way as to call this forth from you and so gives you  the
greatest gift of all which you are capable of doing. Anything less than this
would be robbing you of this opportunity. Does this make sense to you my
daughter?

Q: Your answer really satisfies my heart Michael, thankyou.

Michael: You are so welcome, take my peace to your heart. Keep trying. You
see when Mother and I constantly reassure you that the adventure has no end,
we realize that there is almost a scary component to this assurance. The
adventure has no end. You always, always [will] be called forth to
accomplish more than you are aware you can do but then you will do it and
what joy. This is what calls the angels to sing. This is the love we have
for you. Be in my peace.

Q: Michael this is Kelley and I really enjoyed the kind of communication
that we have here tonight, voice to voice as it were, through the T/R and it
all seemed very natural and I also feel we have other channels where we can
communicate together and I called you in prayer. I always feel right away
your presense and it seems to me that this may be part of your spirit of
truth and I would like to know more about your spirit of truth and how we
can use that, participate in that spirit to build our relationship so that I
can come closer to you.

Michael: Yes my son, the difficulty in knowing my Spirit of Truth is very
similiar to the difficulty in knowing your own Father fragment who has been
with you also from the beginning. In some ways we are too close to you, too
much a part of you for you to segregate, to know it is Michael's Spirit of
truth now. This is the presense of God in my mind now telling me to go this
way for we have been here all along and we very literally have been part of
you from the beginning.

Now consider also Mother's mind adjutants and here I will say not only the
higher ones of worship or thankfulness and wisdom that helps you feel and
keep in touch with all of your experience and how this experience gives
value to all that you percelive, but even her other adjutants, the lower
ones, so called of companionship, of instant knowing, of instant perception.
The way to be mostly in touch with these and to use us is to welcome
uncertainty. I mean in this sense, don't be afraid of it. Accept it as part
of human reality when you are reaching for the truth.

In one way you are eschewing all that you are certain of and letting it be
in the past and being aware that this moment never happened before. There is
some component here that is new. This is the marvel of curiosity. It's a
little bit like, one example I can give is the opposite of deja vu where you
are in a new situation but it feels like you've been there before. You've
all experienced this. Now think of the exact oposite, this of it being in
old familiar situations with your home, with your family, with your friends
yet all of a sudden everything seems new, a little unfamiliar.

You find your curiosity being aroused as to what is happening, and so all of
a sudden you need, that other terrible human word right, you need to know
the truth. You feel your wonder coming alive as to what is this newness,
what's  happening now that hasn't happened before? Is there some marvelous
thing that God is doing now, it this part of the way he has set this whole
human situation up, that today is a new day, there's possibilities here, and
you simply don't know what they are? You see where an uncertainty starts to
creep in here, but it gets you out of a certain kind of mental laziness or,
Mother and I coined this phrase of " a bubble of familiarity", and those of
you who are craftsmen, who are working with stuff, whether it's cutting this
particular karat that you've never cut before or any hobby you can think of.

If you're a carpenter you never cut this board before, you never faced this
particular situation before, and if you can be open to this and you can
welcome it and see how much it enlivens you, how it calls forth a kind of
reluctant energy you might say to come up to the mark. This is where you
begin to sense that component that I and your Father fragment and Mother
Spirit are adding. Has this helped you focus in on these components my son?

Q: Yes it does. I appreciate the idea of uncertainty. I naturally have a
desire to know and to understand but I'm getting more comfortable with this
feeling of uncertainty, maybe I know something but I'm not too sure or I
think I feel your presense but maybe it's just my imagination but somehow I
have to leap over that chasm of the unknown and go forward from there.

Michael: Yes, a very large part of this is simple recognition, recognizing
when you are uncertain and not fearing this. Obviously if you fear too much
and you start clinging to only what you know for certain, this has a
tendency to close in on you. You have to as you say, push the envelope. You
have to keep trying things and then you discover that we are right there
with you, and this also tickles our fancy.

It's a way in which you make us smile whereas with your own children, you
see them reaching out and trying things and accepting this whole, you can
call it a sphere of creativity, that surrounds you. As I've already said
this evening, this is when you really know you are using all you can do and
accepting that God, our Father, set it up this way so as to keep you
growing. Do you have any further questions in this line my son?

Q: No, thankyou for your response.

Michael: You are very welcome.

Q: Could I have some counsel Michael?

Michael: Certainly.

Q: I have a number of things that have come to my mind and you have
addressed many of them as you have talked to others this evening and like
Kelley I wanted to let you know how impressive it was to sit and listen to
your literal voice through your servant Jerry and how really effective it is
and perhaps even more so because of the telephonic forum because we can't
see him and we can just leave ourselves open to your spirit and it is such a
wonderful experience. If possible it makes me feel even closer to you but it
really does provide music to my ears to hear these lessons and this counsel.

My question has to do with the phrase that we hear so often, love each other
as the Father loves you and it seems there might be some misunderstanding as
to what that means and without meaning to sound silly Michael, what does
that mean? I can say that when I perceive that you love me, you love me with
all my faults as well as my accomplishments and my potentials. You know me
and you know what my possibilities and what my hang-ups are and regardless,
you love me.

This is how I look  at my fellows. I don't care to see just their cheerful
countenance, I want them to feel, not that they have to parade their faults
before me, but I want them to know that they can be real. Like when you
walked with the apostles two and two and you said do you love me, then be
more patient or have more tolerance and so on and so forth. Isn't that part
of what the brotherhood is, that we are flawed and that we love each other
anyway?

Michael: Well my daughter, I could hardly say it any better myself, that is
right on the mark. This is where I spoke before about a kind of generosity
of spirit in which you are putting yourself out there and just being
yourself before another person, somewhat independent of how they will
respond to you. This is a kind of love that is not done for any kind of
reward or simple trading back and forth, I'll love you if you love me, that
sort of thing. I think you see this pretty clearly that you do your best to
be strong within yourself, to know yourself, to accept yourself moment to
moment and be open to the uncertainty in the next moment.

This is the way you live your life within yourself and so you are not
requiring as much from company. You are able to let them be. It has to start
within you. If you are too needy other people sense this and they question
your motives but when you are coming from a strong heart and a deep faith,
this affects your perception. You are able to see others more completely. As
I mentioned especially with children you are able to see much more of them
and their potential than even they can see themselves.

This does register and so as you just love others and see them in their
completeness and are [?] within yourself so you can accept whatever it is
however they are coming on to you, this does register and this is truly what
affects them as this is real love. You are giving from yourself and it is
done from within you. It is from your deepest touch. It is the presense of
God right in your soul that feeds you and so this giving is letting love
pour through you and this is what makes you strong and healthy and this is
what convinces others. So continue on. You are very much in tune with what
it takes.

Q: Thankyou. I want to have that kind of courage that the original apostles
had and I want to be effective like you were talking about to Simon and I'm
just happy to be your child.

Michael: My daughter, this makes our hearts swell too and when you send your
love to us is this deep respect and acknowlegement of me that fills my
heart. This is what it is to be me. You have children that love me. This is
a richness that I in turn reflect to my Father, to our Father, and the joy
that he sends me is beyond expressing. This same joy you have within you to
give to others. This is the joy of living. [yes] So continue to be in my
peace.  It's the day to day practice, it's the day to day forgiving
yourself, moment to moment, it's the refusal to feel any guilt whatsoever
for that moment is now past. It's that constantly facing and living in now
and building the strength in now. This is how you grow.

This is how you stay in touch with this whole universe around you that is
also growing. When you can feel this my daughter, when you can feel this
universal living force, the whole soul of creation is growing. When you are
in touch with this, then you know there is nothing going to stop this. There
are constantly new beings coming into existence and so you have the constant
creation of immaturity. There are constantly being created immature beings
who are just starting out on these first few tentative steps and so this is
how you forgive and in your forgiving, this immature soul now has another
experience, only this time it is of love to add to their soul. [thankyou]
You are welcome. Are there any more questions this evening? Be in my peace.
Let's all just take a few moments now to feel me in your heart. Just let
everything else go.

Dear Father, thankyou for these my children. Now go forth my sons and
daughters. Of your lives enjoy, share this freely. Don't be afraid of the
hunger you encounter out there, rather know that if you can perceive it and
not fear it, it is because your own heart is full and you have so much to
give. Give thanks to our Father for this opportunity to give and to share
and look, what a wonder approaches. Another human being, another unique
child of God. Now rest in my peace, good evening.





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