[tmtranscripts] Michael 10.2.06

[JOYce Brenton]

A Great Many Of Us Enjoy Our Father's Pronoun's In Capital Letters
XOXOXOXOXOXO
JOYce
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From: "Saskia Raevouri" <syrp at earthlink.net>
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> Hello,
>
> I am curious why all the pronouns are being capitalized lately. It is very 
> distracting to read, and the Urantia Book doesn't do it. Just because the 
> Bible capitalizes pronouns when referring to God the Father, doesn't mean 
> we should haphazardly capitalize anybody and everybody just because we 
> respect them. I hope this doesn't continue, as these transcripts are 
> beginning to look like German language.
>
> Thanks,
> Saskia
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:22 AM
> Subject: [tmtranscripts] Michael 10.2.06
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>
>> Michael-October 2, 2006
>>
>> Marin TM Group-Mill Valley, California-U.S.A.
>>
>> MICHAEL-T/R-JL
>>
>> (A big picture)
>> (Principles of transparency and democracy)
>> (A necessary monumental forgiveness)
>> (Michael's life)
>> (God's will, and His creatures' free will)
>> (Good and evil are not abstract dualities)
>> (The mercy-lag of justice)
>>
>> Dear Michael and Mother Spirit,    Thank You for visiting with us this 
>> way, and for your words of hope, and insight, and understanding.  We 
>> thank You for the Teaching Mission You have inaugurated, and we wish to 
>> thank all Your Sons and Daughters for Their contributions to it.  And 
>> finally, we wish to thank our initial teacher, our beloved elder brother, 
>> Welmek, for setting our feet on this path.  Amen.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Good evening, My worshipful sons, this is Michael, your 
>> father-your Dad, and your brother, and your close friend, your very 
>> informal buddy.  If I were here in person, we could go fishing together. 
>> I did have a bit of experience with that once upon a time.  This is 
>> always how I would like you to think of Me, because this is definitely 
>> how I think of us, Myself.
>>
>> (A big picture)
>>
>> Though Mother and I are parents to literally millions of worlds at all 
>> stages of development, some just now coming on line, so to speak, with 
>> their evolving, primitive type human beings, others on the other end of 
>> the spectrum having been settled in Light and Life for endless millennia; 
>> still to all My sons and daughters, both Mother and I feel very close. 
>> And We derive such pleasure, such enjoyment when each of you feels this 
>> same closeness.
>>
>> Your knowledge of Us, your ability to receive Us this way, marks the 
>> entrance upon a definite stage of planetary evolution that has happened 
>> on every evolved planet.  When every world's population reaches a certain 
>> stage of maturity in understanding, We are able to communicate this way 
>> through its members.
>>
>> And while there is a general pattern of planetary development, it is 
>> really most general.  Your own world has departed from this pattern in 
>> many ways, and it has been the purpose of the Urantia book to explain 
>> some of these differences. Now you can have some sense of reference, some 
>> understanding of the more common or usual ways of planetary development. 
>> All these explanations serve to help your faith in God's ultimate 
>> justice.
>>
>> No matter how severe life seems to have treated you, or those you know 
>> of, about the world, you can understand that there is no other way to 
>> give your kind of being the freedom you do have without allowing for some 
>> temporal disruptions.  If all human actions were instantaneously 
>> adjudicated and corrected, there would be no freedom as you know it. 
>> There would be no possibility for any deviation from God's will.  So it 
>> is true that much of what you know as human-created suffering is the 
>> price you pay for this ability you have to choose. The evolution of your 
>> civilization and your culture depends upon a thorough understanding of 
>> this principle, and a thoroughgoing appreciation of this price you pay 
>> for your freedom.
>>
>> There is still a great percentage of the world's children who are not 
>> taught they have this freedom, nor made aware they have a responsibility, 
>> not only to others, but even to themselves.  In fact, much of the 
>> institutionalized teaching of either church or state is in the opposite 
>> direction, its purpose, more or less, to mentally and spiritually enslave 
>> each younger generation coming along, to not question, nor to realize 
>> they have individual choices to make.
>>
>> In a more ideal world each individual, though raised by authority, would 
>> be thoroughly prepared so that, at a certain stage of maturity, he or she 
>> would realize the necessity to make inner choices--for themselves--as to 
>> what is real--no less.  Just think of the trust in your children that 
>> this would require.  Think of the faith involved when each parent and 
>> teacher would welcome their children's or their students' surpassing 
>> them--voluntarily being guided in the wise use of  power as it's passed 
>> on from generation to generation--smoothly, lovingly, progressively.
>>
>> (Principles of transparency and democracy)
>>
>> Make no mistake: the human races on Urantia are evolving.  Civilization 
>> and culture are maturing, and the worldwide communications coming into 
>> play are fantastically accelerating the process.  Great principles of 
>> transparency in all institutions of government, and religion, and 
>> learning, are transforming concepts of where responsibility ultimately 
>> rests, ever so surely transferring it on to its origin, the people 
>> themselves.
>>
>> As one of your wise statesman put it: there is no safe repository for the 
>> ultimate powers of society but the people themselves.  But obviously the 
>> people themselves must want this.  They must be willing to devote the 
>> life energies and time necessary to make their representatives 
>> responsible to them.  The general principle of representative democracy 
>> is sound.  It is only in the final stages of Light and Life, the final 
>> maturation of civilization and culture on a world, that the state has 
>> pretty much faded away and men and women no longer require these 
>> institutions of law and authority to behave wonderfully.
>>
>> So have faith in these principles, My sons and daughters.  Have faith in 
>> yourselves and your children.  Appreciate these freedoms that are yours 
>> for the very terrible price your particular world has paid for them. 
>> When you consider the evolution of your societies, you can feel again a 
>> wondrous wellspring of hope for the movement towards a recognition of 
>> individual liberties.  Though hardly constant over the years, with all 
>> its many setbacks, it's still been on the whole: unstoppable.
>>
>> Remember that all the individual freedoms with respect to government that 
>> you have, all have come about one small step at a time.  Some, concerning 
>> the franchising of all races, both sexes, and all economic classes, have 
>> only come about very recently indeed, and are still not by a long shot 
>> universal.  But this is the way to go.  This is the orientation of true 
>> progress.  You help bring about this ideal future by thoroughly 
>> exploring, and understanding, and respecting the process as it has 
>> developed over the past.
>>
>> (A necessary monumental forgiveness)
>>
>> The monumental forgiveness that is necessary now is perfectly consistent 
>> with forgetting nothing, neither in your own individual past, nor as you 
>> look out on your society and world.  As I have said before, everything 
>> that has ever happened is deserving of respect for its sheer actuality. 
>> Ask only: was it real, did it really happen?  Only then, once you have 
>> accepted all the facts of any matter, can you turn to understanding why, 
>> based upon this acceptance.
>>
>> There you will find the grounds for hope, for the supreme optimism that 
>> Mother Spirit and I only wish We could transfer to you directly from our 
>> viewpoint overlooking the evolution of millions of worlds, and our 
>> understanding of God's will and ways.  For you this is largely a matter 
>> of faith.  Yet it is this faith We see burning in your souls like a laser 
>> of pure light that gives Us the greatest hope of all.
>>
>> Oh, My children, if you could only see yourselves as We do.  So keep your 
>> faith burning strong.  Keep your hope from faltering.  Keep stretching to 
>> appreciate all your forbearers have done to pass their life and their 
>> hopes on to you.  Then smile as you meet the eyes of your children and 
>> send them out into the world, trusting they will move things along one 
>> small step further.  This is the passing of the lamp we are all involved 
>> in; and it is good.  It is eternal.
>>
>> If you have any questions or comments this evening, it is My great 
>> pleasure to do My best to meet your expectations.
>>
>> Student:  Thank You, Michael, for taking time out from Your life to be 
>> with us tonight.  Thank You for putting a positive outlook on the way 
>> life evolves, and the events in this world.  I don't have any questions 
>> tonight, just those two comments.
>>
>> (Michael's life)
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Thank you, C, for your heartfelt appreciation.  This is not 
>> really taking any kind of time out for, you see, this is what I do.  This 
>> is My life.  And I certainly don't call it work.  As Mother has so often 
>> told you, being a Creator Son is mostly being a father to Our creations. 
>> And as I mentioned this evening, it's wonderful when the human races of 
>> an evolving planet reach the stage where they can consider Us and our 
>> Universal Father, not as some tyrannical, cranky rulers, but as the 
>> closest, wisest, and most loving of friends.  So I am pleased to say, 
>> thank you for your appreciation. You are very welcome.  Be in My peace.
>>
>> Student: Thank You, Father Michael.
>>
>> Student:  Yes, Michael, I'm pondering upon what we discussed in our 
>> previous meeting about the phenomenon of evil, and I guess what I was 
>> getting caught up in was, was the idea of duality--that there is love and 
>> then there's evil.  But then as I thought more about that: in a sense, 
>> love and evil are of the same coin--two sides of the same coin, a gold 
>> coin if you may, in that even with the expression of evil there is love. 
>> I don't know if I'll be able to make this clear, but I still do not 
>> believe that God knows of evil, because all He knows is love, absolute 
>> love.
>>
>> So the evil we see in the world is just a perverted expression of love. 
>> When one chooses to live God's will, then there is no capacity to commit 
>> evil, or even think of it, or conceive of it.  This leads me into the 
>> next thing of God's will and free will, for I think and perceive that 
>> God's will for all of us is absolute harmony, and goodness, and love, and 
>> wealth, and so on.  So how can there be evil if there is absolute love, 
>> if that's His intention?  With the idea of free will, I perceive that 
>> free will, possibly as God intended it to be expressed, was to.  You 
>> can't separate yourself from God's will: there is no separation: we are 
>> God's will.  Free will is a further expression of God's will, but in our 
>> own unique fashion, and experience, and flavor.  So that's how I perceive 
>> of free will, and God's will.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Yes, My son, I understand your quandary.
>>
>> Student:  I'm not denying there's evil things out there in the world.  I 
>> mean I realize.I feel it.  I see the suffering.  I know what is going on 
>> in the world.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  There you just anticipated what I was about to say, because in 
>> your first discourse you more or less denied the existence of evil.
>>
>> Student:  I think I was meaning, I didn't deny the existence of evil, but 
>> that God created evil.  He cannot even experience evil, or even know of 
>> evil-if He is absolute love, and absolute joy.  Evil is only our sense of 
>> separation from this absolute love.  But in reality there is no 
>> separation.
>>
>> (God's will, and His creatures' free will)
>>
>> MICHAEL:  The only way out of this circular reasoning is to more 
>> thoroughly understand these terms.  This is why the Urantia book goes to 
>> some lengths, and needs to, in defining the meaning to be put on certain 
>> word symbols such as sin or evil.  The creation of a finite universe full 
>> of, as I put it, immature and imperfect beings, allows for deviation from 
>> God's will and ways-which you are correct in seeing are perfect, or 
>> absolute and infinite.  But His creatures are not.  They are immature and 
>> imperfect.  They are given a free will to make it possible to deviate 
>> from His ways.  That is the meaning of free will.
>>
>> On the simplest level, they can make mistakes.  Every parent is aware of 
>> the mistakes their child must make in order to learn hot things burn, 
>> sharp things cut.  Many of these mistakes are made unconsciously and 
>> unintentionally as a young being learns about reality.  A sin is your 
>> consciously going against God's will, doing something that your own inner 
>> knowledge tells you is not right, say, persisting in an unhealthy habit, 
>> since God wants you healthy and strong.   Yet the very existence of, say, 
>> cigarettes, means there is this possibility for sin, for choosing 
>> something you know is not His will.  The same is true of evil-willfully, 
>> knowingly harming another.  As you came to admit, there is no denying the 
>> reality of this.  We go one step further and define iniquity as the 
>> whole-hearted identification with, or devotion to evil, which some men 
>> have chosen to do.
>>
>> When God created the universes of time and space and peopled them with 
>> beings such as yourselves, He created this possibility.  This possibility 
>> is the very definition of free will, free to deviate from His will.  The 
>> creature's free will is not synonymous with His.
>>
>> Student:  But how can He do so?  We may be getting beyond what I can 
>> comprehend, but how can He conceive of that?
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Because He is God.  You cannot put limits upon His creativity. 
>> Nor can you say that He does not know every tiny aspect of everything 
>> that is happening.  He is cognizant of every act throughout all of time 
>> and space.  This is what is meant by omniscience. You've expressed some 
>> notions that God cannot know evil, whereas He knows every evil act that 
>> has ever taken place, and He definitely allows it, for He is also 
>> omnipotent.  There can be no limits put upon His power to change 
>> anything, in that His power is also consistent and one with His absolute 
>> and infinite wisdom.
>>
>> On this absolute and infinite scale, He is truly a divine parent who 
>> allows His children to make their mistakes, allows them to be responsible 
>> for what they do so that their experiences are truly their own; their 
>> souls are truly their own.  Seen from this scale, all sin, evil, and 
>> iniquity-all are definitely time-limited.  Every evil act has a definite 
>> beginning and end, whereas God's goodness does not.  The goodness of the 
>> total is never in doubt.  God's will prevails by the very definition of 
>> who and what we mean by God, what we mean by omnipotence and omniscience. 
>> He is ubiquitous within time and space, and omnipresent in a 
>> time-and-space transcended way.
>>
>> So read the transcripts, My son, and re-think some of your notions of 
>> what God can or cannot create.  You yourself are the proof of His ability 
>> to create an imperfect and immature being.  As We keep reassuring you: 
>> you are absolutely real.
>>
>> Student:  You also keep saying, if only I could see myself as You see 
>> me-which is as God sees me-full of love and full of joy, and wholeness. 
>> And more.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Yet with the potential, the ability for anything conceivable. 
>> Also, My son, look at your understanding of what an enlightened person-as 
>> you think of one-experiences as he goes through a normal day in your 
>> society.  He is constantly confronted with a thousand and one choices 
>> along a whole spectrum of good and evil.  It is not that he would no 
>> longer conceive of, or have any contact or cognizance of evil when he is 
>> surrounded by all these relatively good and evil acts impinging upon his 
>> consciousness. Consider the violence in your mass entertainment, the real 
>> warfare on your world.  So don't think there is some state of mind you 
>> should achieve where you do not have to consider or conceive of these 
>> things.  They are part of the stream of life you are living in, full of 
>> all these contrastive elements of good and evil.
>>
>> Getting into the meaning of meaning once again, both the concept and the 
>> real virtue of loyalty only exists within the possibility of default and 
>> betrayal.  And so it is with all the virtues.  But I must admit I do not 
>> know what you mean by good and evil are the same thing, or the same coin.
>>
>> Student:  Two sides of the same coin.
>>
>> (Good and evil are not abstract dualities)
>>
>> MICHAEL:  Two sides of the same coin.  Good is definitely what affirms 
>> life, and is consistent with God's will.  Evil is a deviation from this 
>> that causes pain and suffering.  A man who stoops to help a child with 
>> food and shelter, love and companionship, is in no way analogous to 
>> another who may obscenely harm a small child.  They both exist on your 
>> world.  These are not abstract dualities.  They are specific acts that 
>> either nurture or harm.  The consequences are real.  Love and evil are 
>> not in any way related.  Love is a connecting, bonding, empathizing kind 
>> of emotion.  Evil is a destructive desire in its essence, fueled by the 
>> self indulgence of hatred.  One connects; the other severs and harms.  So 
>> keep your philosophy down to earth, My son.  Look at the results of 
>> specific acts, for all your abstractions, your general terms "good" and 
>> "evil" do stem from these.  (a very long pause, several minutes)
>>
>> Let Me ask if you can feel the concrete-ness of My proposals.
>>
>> Student:  I kind-of don't feel anything.  Because.  Hmmm. It seems like 
>> my. I'm trying to take in what You've said.  Because some of what You've 
>> said seems contrary to what I've come to understand, and what I've read 
>> in certain materials that have come my way.  But I do feel I am grounded 
>> in living upon this earth, and seeing the God-potential within each human 
>> being-to the best of my abilities.  Beneath the surface of good and evil, 
>> of duality, is God's will, and it's always there.  You can never be 
>> separated from it.  It's what sustains us.
>>
>> (The mercy-lag of justice)
>>
>> MICHAEL:  But you can be separated-for a while, due to what We call the 
>> mercy-lag of justice.  There have been living beings of high estate and 
>> intelligence who went astray.  Consider Lucifer, the one-time sovereign 
>> of your Local System of over six hundred inhabited worlds, a being who 
>> got His name for the brilliance of His intellect, a Primary Lanondadek 
>> Son given this position of extraordinary responsibility and authority. 
>> At some point, out of His own creative abilities, He began to conceive of 
>> a reality that ultimately denied even the existence of God the Father, 
>> and considered Myself and the other Creator Sons of the Local Universes 
>> as some kind of petty tyrants.  He declared that all subordinate beings 
>> were free in a way of no responsibility whatsoever to God's will.  Often 
>> He cited as proof of God's non-existence and We Creator Sons' impotence, 
>> the fact He was not instantaneously annihilated.  As your Urantia book 
>> informs you, several dozen planetary administrations, including that of 
>> Urantia, joined in His rebellion.  This rebellion was allowed to go on 
>> for a number of years until every single being caught up in it had time 
>> to make their choice as to which side they were on.  At the end of that 
>> time He was summarily shorn of all His powers and put away.
>>
>> That was about two hundred thousand years ago, and even though He was 
>> offered this mercy-lag of justice, He refused in any way to acknowledge a 
>> greater authority, and mercy, and justice, and was only recently 
>> annihilated.  He no longer exists.  So think about your statement that no 
>> one deviates from God's will, for indeed this is an ultimate possibility.
>>
>> This is what Mother Spirit referred to last week when She said, eternal 
>> life is forced upon no one.  But it does have its requirements.  You have 
>> to choose to be in accord with God's will, which is reality, which is 
>> continuing life, evolving life, growing life.  For if you totally 
>> identify with what is contrary to God's will--which is your ability to 
>> do--you are simply taking yourself out of reality.  You've identified 
>> with what is only temporal.  So you can choose to cease to exist.  And 
>> this is the ultimate proof and demonstration of free will.
>>
>> So think about these things, My son.  I know deep in your heart you 
>> certainly will.
>>
>> Student:  All I know is that without God I am nothing, and with Him I am 
>> everything-whoever God is.  I know I'm limited in my understanding of the 
>> scope, the immensity of His being, but I am a part of Him.  And my 
>> intention is to live as You see me-to the best of my ability.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  As Mother Spirit encouraged you last week, keep going.  Keep 
>> exercising this innate curiosity you have about the true reality of 
>> things, of God's ways.  Since time immemorial people have wondered how 
>> God could let evil exist, yet the answer is possible to understand, and 
>> seeking it leads you to Him.  But you do not achieve God, and a thorough 
>> understanding of His will, overnight.
>>
>> Student:  Yes, I do understand that.  Thank You.
>>
>> MICHAEL:  You are welcome.  You see how being open-minded can lead to 
>> real quandaries, (much laughter) but that only fuels your determination 
>> to stay with the game, and keep seeking Him.  You can always find My 
>> peace deep within yourself.
>>
>> So good evening, My stalwart sons.  I've enjoyed another evening visiting 
>> with you.  I'll definitely relay your affection to Welmek.  Be in My 
>> peace.
>>
>>
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