[tmtranscripts] No. Colo. TeaM, 09-10-06

[Roxanne Andrews]

Monjoronson091006NOCO89_StableSustainableSocieties

 

Northern Colorado TeaM, #89

Boulder, Colorado

 

Teachers:  Zarath and Monjoronson

 

Topics:  Foundational lessons for Light and Life

                        Beliefs and values for sustainability

                        Distinction between stability and sustainable

                        Magisterial Mission is long-term

                        What can each individual do?

                        Becoming a community leader

                        Current superficial policies

                        Evolutionary development of civilizations

                        The vision for all

                        What is mandatory for Light and Life?

                        What is normal for our world?

                        Stay focused on the "now"

                        How can you sustain yourself?

                        Technological innovations

                        Societal maintenance

                        What is required for peace?

         Q & A:  Teachings to other groups

                        How TRs affect messages

                        Systems vs. aggregations

                        Survival is not sufficient stimulus for growth of civilization

 

TRs:  Jerry Evans and Daniel Raphael

 

September 10, 2006
 

ZARATH (TR, Jerry):  This is Zarath.  (Welcome.)  And welcome to you, those many who have traveled far today are so welcome.  It is my pleasure to again be with you and to join in our community, in our thinking, and for me to be able to welcome other teachers to this session.  I do have a few opening comments that I would like to share.  The progress that we are all so concerned with is moving steadily forward and is gaining momentum, and we teachers are excited at the possibilities that we can see opening up in the Teaching Mission and in the Magisterial Mission, and in other missions undefined, in progress, around the world.  Many of the details of these will be provided to you, for we have a senior teacher with us, and at this point, I will withdraw and leave the field open to the others.

 

MONJORONSON (TR, Daniel):  Good afternoon.  (Good afternoon.)   This is Monjoronson.  (And welcome!)  It is a pleasure to be here once again.  Let us continue building the foundations that will sustain The Days of Light and Life.  As a part of the Magisterial Mission, one of its main functions is to help bring a transition era from your era to the early stages of The Days of Light and Life.  Today's lesson is what we would call very tight and very succinct.  

 

The question to be answered today is:  What is required so that The Days of Light and Life once begun will continue?  What beliefs and what values underlie the existence of The Days of Light and Life?  What factors are mandatory for The Days of Light and Life to exist, to come into existence and continue on?  The answers are both simple and the extended answers are quite complex.  We must give you these beginning lessons before we begin the "how to" lessons.  These foundational lessons will continue for some time.  The primary value that is necessary to underwrite, to be the foundation for The Days of Light and Life, is the value, the belief in sustainability.  The Days of Light and Life only come into the existence of a planet whose history has become stabilized-not mediocre, not "ho hum," not ordinary-but stabilized.  The days, years, decades, centuries that proceed the inauguration of The Days of Light and Life are years of great excitement, great civilizational developments, great stabilizing influences that begin and continue, that once begun, begin to gain momentum and hold a preponderance of energy, so that your world's events become stabilized.  There is the anticipation of stability.  There is a distinction we draw between stability and sustainability.  We will leave you to find those distinctions through this discussion.  

 

Even before peace is endemic upon your world, there must be the belief that it is possible.  Before those beliefs can become widespread, there must be held at the core of each individual, the value that peace is possible, that stability, continuation is possible.  If I were to set out homework for you to do, it would be simply to do this:  To identify the values that underlie stability and sustainability.  What values must you hold dear that will empower individuals to want and need stability and a life that is sustainable?

 

This would be a wonderful working group exercise for a large group, where you would have perhaps 50-150 people who would meet to analyze the values of stability and sustainability.  And in saying that, you are almost saying, "peace" as well.  But peace requires more than belief, more than values-but we will discuss that later.  If I were to set an assignment upon you, where I was physically present here with you, look each of you into the eye, and ask each of you to go out and bring in five people to a group meeting, would you do that?  (Pause.)  Would you do that, my friends?  (Yes.)  I would hope so.  And I would ask this larger group to identify the values that they see as underlying sustainability, stability and peace.  

 

Then we would come together from these small groups of 5-7 people to the larger group, and then we would chart out what [conclusions] each small group has come to, what they have decided is important, what values are necessary for this exercise, for this exercise in life.  And we could do this in every nation, every nation where free thinking, free thought, the capacity to meet without reservation, to talk about issues without questions of loyalty, without jeopardizing one's existence.  I truly believe, even on a chaotic world as your own, there would be global consensus about several values-perhaps a dozen.

 

>From these values, what beliefs would we come to generate about the world?  What beliefs must we have-must you have-to generate stability, sustainability and peace?  Now this homework is rather simple, yet it is difficult, tedious and long-term.  This is an assignment to assist your world to come to the consensus of belief that sustainable peace is possible, to the point where everyone accepts, anticipates, expects, and believes that their world has stability.  This period of time is only vaguely reminiscent to some of you, and to older generations, who lived through the early to mid-50's and other eras during the last century and centuries before, those eras between wars, where people questioned, "Is this the way it is?  We don't have war!" and in fact they begin not even to think about war.

 

Do you see how long-term the Magisterial Mission will be?  Do you see how tedious this work needs to be to bring billions of people into a consensus that sustainability, peace, and stability are expected and even taken for granted?  Only then can the earliest eras of the days in light and life begin.  It is quite possible in the decades and centuries ahead that there may be one country that is fully prepared to inaugurate The Days of Light and Life, but if it exists in isolation upon a world that is otherwise chaotic, then it is just an example, rather than a way of life.

 

Now, my point to you today, those who are here, those who listen to these recordings, and for those who read these transcripts now and infinitely into the future, is another question and I will put it in the first person:  "What can I do to aid the sustainability of my world?"  As each of you is an individual-I do not say "just an individual"-I say "as an individual," you will deal with issues that you individually can commit to and take responsibility for.  Each of you has a realm in which you associate:  You belong to churches, clubs, associations, brotherhoods, sisterhoods-you go to a work place, you are investors in corporations, both large and small; you are citizens of a water district, a sewer district, a school district, fire district, police district, a city, county, state, and nation.  This is where the leadership comes in, my friends.  

 

You have said before, "How can I be a leader?  I am an individual.  I am one of 300 million in this large nation.  I am just one individual."  You can raise the question.  You can raise the question as this, "What is necessary to sustain this organization into the future?  Not just a year or ten years, or decades, but centuries.  What is necessary for us to do now to invoke the possibility of sustainability?"  Some of you will come away from that question, knowing that the very organizations you belong to really are unsustainable as they currently exist, that their purposes are short-term, that their values and beliefs are skewed and out of kilter.  

 

You perhaps may be a member of a homeowners association.  Lead by asking your question, "What would it take to sustain our community, this neighborhood, for the next two centuries?"  Well, you might be laughed out of your meeting, but perhaps you would be taken seriously.  For some, homeowner associations are a means to protect the bias of that neighborhood.  It may be a way of maintaining mediocrity-houses of very similar colors, houses with similar sizes, similar yards, similar landscape.  But what homeowners association would stand out as an exception, that took on the orientation towards sustainability for 200 years or 500 years?  To do so, it must reorient its policies very differently.  

 

It would begin to make policies concerning its sources of water, the treatment of its effluent, the schooling of its children, the enhancement of its neighborhood for the spiritual development-even the aesthetic development of individual's appreciation for where they live.  You are leaders.  We are calling upon you to be leaders.  We are asking you to raise questions-not to question authority, that you can do on your own-but to question the issues and policies that are existent now, that are short-term, short lived, and superficial.

 

If you belong to, or are a member of a board of trustees in a large corporation-these are questions that would drive leadership in the corporation.  It is not only the bottom line that is necessary to admire, appreciate, and respect, but [also] the long-term bottom line.  There must be short-term goals, long-term goals, and exceedingly long-term goals.  There are corporations that have existed already on your world for centuries.  What is it that has assisted them in sustaining themselves?  Which type of form of government has lasted the longest, over any era of the world?  The Roman Empire lasted almost a 1000 years; how did it do that?  What sustained it?

 

Perhaps the same policies would not work today, but perhaps the same perspectives would-but turned a different way.  We could quite easily, today, tear apart your domestic policies and foreign policies, of this nation and your states in short order, but what would that prove?  It would not prove much.  Yes, you know that they are short-term, they are meant to make the administrations that are in power look better, that they are doing the right thing-looking right, that they are doing well so that their political party would become re-elected.  These are all short-term, shallow, superficial reasons for existence as an authority of power.

 

Now, let us take a long loop out and come to my office, the Office of Magisterial Son:  What policies must the Magisterial Son exercise in the administration and expansion of the Magisterial Mission, to assist your world in coming into The Days of Light and Life successfully-not necessarily as quickly as possible, but effectively?  These same policies of the Magisterial Mission are effective at your level.  They are effective now.  It only requires the belief that they are, that they can be effective now, and those beliefs must be backed up with the values that your world can become sustainable, that its people and its cultures can be sustained into the future.

 

The chores that I give you to do, I have to do myself; my staff has to do willingly, gladly, and with anticipation.  From your perspective, perhaps, dealing with your material world, your material dimensions, this is no easy task to ask of you, but this is-as we have said-doing so is incremental and developmental and will lead to the evolutionary development of your civilizations.  Your cultures and civilizations must evolve, and along with them must evolve the values that underline a sustained society, sustained world, sustained industry, sustained technology, and sustained life styles.  What is of value?  What has value?  What are your values?  These are all important things to have in mind-you must have them!  And you can only have them embedded into your lives by living them!  

 

Now, I know my role, do you know yours?  What is your role?  We, my staff and myself, will not hand out little strips of paper to you telling you what your role is.  You must raise your hand and say, "I can do this.  This is what I want to do."  "I can do this well, I've done this before, and I can do it again," or  "I've done this once, I think I will try it again."  Some will say, "I've never done that before, but I am willing-show me how," and my friends, we will.  The roles that you design for yourself to assist the Magisterial Mission will likewise give you something meaningful to do in your life, now.  Do you wonder what you can do?  It is very clear to us:  You have work to do!  We first ask that you develop a need and the desire to assist us, to go about your business as we have suggested, as the teachers have suggested many times, in your daily business, wherever you go.  We suggest positive options that guide and lead toward sustainability of your society, of your world.  

 

Here in this state, you are dealing with a water crisis.  The farmers cannot raise their crops anymore because they cannot draw water from the ground.  Water that comes down the streams goes to cities, rather than farms that used to raise crops.  Is this sustainable?  Can this go on for the next two or three centuries?  This is not a rhetorical question.  This is a real question, one that you and your people in this society, in these states, will face-not think about-but you will face.  Water policies throughout your world will be a great issue in the very near future.  Too much water here, not enough there.  What is equitable, what is fair, what brings oneness?  

 

In these words that I share with you now, these underlie the values of beliefs of your future world.  How will you participate in your role?  What is your role?  What are your values?  The vision is clear for all of us, for myself and for you, we will live in a world of oneness, of unity, togetherness, and integration, where the borders are simply drawn on maps and do not exist in reality, do not exist politically or economically:  To live in a world of oneness with one language, one culture, one belief.  This under-girds and truly is the essence of The Days of Light and Life.

 

I know that many of you may be sarcastic, bitter, and cynical with hearing these words because it may not be possible in your lifetime-and truly it may not be, even for the youngest person here, or outside anywhere in your country.  It may take many lifetimes, many generations to do this.  We would not be disappointed if it did, but understand that it would be required to achieve the ends designed for your world by Christ Michael, by the Architects of his Local Universe, and in the design of the Grand Universe.

 

You may ask a question such as, "What is normal for a world as ours?"  Well, my friends, you are not on a normal world, so there are no normal circumstances given for your world.  This is truly an experimental planet and so many things have gone awry that it is exponentially beyond experimental.  It is now at the point of tremendous return for soul growth, yet at great risk for its existence.  It is here that the greatest efforts of Christ Michael and his Administration are being applied, and similarly to other planets in the quarantine, who are now coming out of that stage.

 

The vision for your world may be summed up in another question:  What will the world look like when it is stabilized? (Which does not mean it is necessarily in a sustainable mode, but that it has been stabilized in economics and militarily for decades.)  What would that look like?  The other question that must follow is, "What can we do to bring our world now a little closer to that ideal?"  Then, when you get to that ideal, you say, "What is necessary now to sustain this state?"  In addition, once it is sustained, then you ask, "How can we make this a bit better?  What is not quite right with it now, that we can improve?"

 

Now, in your homes, some of you are feeling threatened by your life, and what is around you.  You have many worries about things you cannot control.  You have fears that are out of your reach to resolve.  If this is the case, then seriously, confidently, engage your day-to-day life controlling what you can.  Be at peace.  Begin peace with yourself.  If you cannot control what is uncontrollable, then release it.  If you still want to control it, then join with others to become more powerful.  However, for those, individually, who want peace now, learn peace for yourself in your life, now.  Live in this moment, now.  Each of you breathes, now, in this moment.  You cannot breathe yesterday.  You cannot breathe tomorrow.  You must breathe now.  This is why the Buddhist "practice of the breath" is so powerful.  It is now.  It is immediate.  It has palpable results and it keeps you focused in this moment.  These are worthy pursuits and practices to pursue and to emulate in your life.

 

What can you do to sustain yourself?  What are your values that underlie the belief that you can be sustained?  Are they economic?  Are they political?  Are they religious?  Are they spiritual?  Are they temporal or are they eternal?  Find your centers, children.  Find your center.  Find and know and live with what is meaningful, what is permanent, what is sustainable for you.

 

Some of you have witnessed and are a part of the sustainable energy practices that are now coming out in your technologies.  Wind power is said to be sustainable.  This is one small item, one small way of thinking of sustainability, but it is a beginning.  It contains the seed-belief that it can be sustained.  Yes, there must be maintenance-even parts must be replaced-but as a whole, the wind will always blow.  As long as your world has differences in temperatures, there will be differences in air pressures, and there will be differences in wind velocities.  Where there is a vacuum, it will be filled, and so there is wind. 

 

It is remarkable how ideas spread.  We now have an example, wherever you go, that sustainability is possible on a technological basis.  The idea that technological innovations are sustainable will become accepted as a normal belief, and that belief will drive entrepreneurs and inventors, to devise new technologies for other sustainable areas that need these devices.  Then, the software:  What kind of software do we need that will sustain the operation of these machines?  Software is akin to thinking, knowing that it is possible, finding ways to make it possible.  

 

This idea of sustainability will creep over into your non-hardware organizations:  Healthcare, healthy living, food production, child rearing, education, and societal maintenance.  How do you maintain a society so it remains healthy? so that its members can actualize and develop their potential?  and those that cannot are given opportunity to maximize what potential they have.

The idea, the beliefs, the values of sustainability must seep into the very core of all your social institutions, of all your political and economic institutions.  They must become what you breathe every day, what you learn in school.  Without this, there will be no Days of Light and Life.  Without this, there will be no peace.

 

Isn't it so ironic that the inequity of air pressure creates sustainable electric output, but inequalities politically lead to violence, revolution and death for many?  Equal pressure will create no wind and no electricity, but equal pressure among individuals in societies and nations, creates peace.  So you value stability, equality, lack of pressure politically, but not with wind power.  One must be adaptable in their values, in their beliefs, and discern the difference and how to apply them.  You are beginning to live in a much more sophisticated world, that needs sophisticated, discerning thinking to live successfully, and to help your society and nation survive, begin to accept that peace is a possibility, and exercise yourselves to make it possible.

 

As you have read, peace is the measure of the growth of a civilization.  Much growth is needed here.  Do you have questions?

 

Student:  Is our sun a thermonuclear power plant, or is it something else?

 

MONJORONSON:  It is a thermonuclear power plant.  It operates by the process of fusion, as you call it.  Better a sun than a world, don't you think?

 

Student:  I understand that you are working with a number of groups all over the world, and that you are delivering messages to these groups.  Is the message that you are giving to this group similar to the messages that you are giving elsewhere, and how much influence is there from the person you are giving the message through?

 

 [Daniel:  That last part zinged me!]

 

MONJORONSON:  This is Monjoronson.  Let me answer the first part of your question and then I will ask you to rephrase the last part, please.  The messages that are given through this group are somewhat different than are given through other groups around the world.  Yes, our messages are being given throughout the world to those who are amenable to receive them.  Not every group that transmits/receives our messages does so, some have agendas to attend to and so these do not fit.  Yet there are many religious and spiritual groups who are receiving the message, and the message is that there is hope, that there is hope coming in a material form, that there is one who is anointed, who is coming.  These words describe myself - One who has other cultural alter-egos, so to speak, who is seen through other eyes as a different personage, the hope of an external being, external to this world, coming in peace, as part of the Creator's entourage, or progeny, gives everyone hope.  This is a new threshold to all groups, those who are willing to explore this realm of revelation.  Not all groups are ready to hear these issues about world peace.  That requires sustainability, or stability.  Some are still involved in the hope that they can destabilize other religions and dominate other religions and their geographic areas.  This is primitive, but something we do address, as we are able to.  Now, could you rephrase the last part of your question, please?

 

Student:  Yes, I'd be happy to.  The question I have here pertains to the person through which the messages are being given to these groups.  I am wondering how much the particular person you have chosen to work with, has an influence on the message?

 

MONJORONSON:  The individual through whom the message comes has a particular and peculiar influence upon the message.  It is as with any database that you work with, you can only get out what you have put in, or through rearranging the material that is inside it.  That is inventiveness using different words and different combinations, but nonetheless, what comes through the individual, is truly filtered.  As we prefer to deal with "conscious" channels, rather than "trance" channels, this requires us to work consciously with the individual.  This limits us tremendously when the belief systems and possibilities and the imagination of the individual is limited.  

 

If the individual does not have multi-visionary auditory, visual, and other capabilities, this limits our capacity to convey concepts, and meaning ("heart value") to individuals.  If there is no "heart" within the individuals, no compassion, no sympathy, no empathy, no caring, then this limits what will come through the individual.  There are many nuances to that, though, some of which are these:  that though the individual may be deficit in these areas, they may nonetheless believe at the core of their being that they are a loved and worthy individual, that they need love and compassion-as do others-and so we can tap into that, and use that core energy to affect what comes through that individual. 

 

Ideas of technology, of inventiveness, of other worldly capacities, are truly limited by to the visionary capacity of the individual.  There are many realms, which we are limited to convey through this one to you, yet we are pleased with what does come through, to some extent.  It is a humbling experience for all, regarding this process, both for us knowing that you are an experimental planet, [and] your biology dictates what your heredity has been and will be, it dictates the capacity of the mind development, and that it is limited.  Your two-part mind surely does limit the capacity in which we can convey concepts of justice, mercy and even-handedness, of weighing the best outcome, especially when your personal interests are jeopardized.  This is not going to be solved soon, but maybe will be in future eons of this world.  It is not a concern of yours or ours, at the moment.

            [Note to Readers:  Monjoronson continues his answer to this question after the interjected question immediately below.  To continue, begin at, "To return to the predicament of the individual."]

 

Student:  I believe it says somewhere in the Urantia Book that intelligent system, versus an aggregation, [that] an intelligent system is more desirable than an aggregation.  I just wondered if you would consider that on a regional basis if self sufficiency is desirable as a founding principle for setting up intelligent and dynamic social systems, and would you say we have a system or an aggregation that our communities and our social structures are just coming up accrued together rather than thought out?

 

MONJORONSON:  As your world does not have an integrated political, religious, cultural or technological system basis yet, you do not have systems.  Systems will develop, as there becomes more integration.  You have aggregations of groups of self-interest, and these are keeping the grouping from being together, to achieve oneness, unity. 

 

Simple survival is not sufficient to maintain, or positively enhance the development of a culture.  There must be more than just sustainability - there must be growth.  Sustainability simply under-girds or underwrites the possibility of growth of the civilization.  Your world will not come into The Days of Light and Life without sustainability, and that is the minimum requirement for that era to begin.  Then, you will see the augmentation of your educational, spiritual institutions so that they express a oneness, even your physics will come into that, as will mathematics.  You will find a oneness of belief that generates wholeness, and the anticipation that more than sustainability is possible by eternal life.  Thank you for your question.

 

[Monjoronson's answer to the prior question continued here.]

To return to the predicament of the individual is a knotty problem that we have.  We are so limited by not being able to coerce you to do anything!  (Laughter.)

 

[Daniel:  I guess that's a spiritual knee-slapper, huh?]  (Student:  Every parent knows exactly what he is talking about!)  

 

MONJORONSON:  There are many more capable individuals that exist throughout the world, who are TRing in private, than exist now, but they have not stepped forward, or they know they are capable but have withdrawn.  This is unfortunate for your world, but it is a fact that is existent and we deal with it.  We work with volunteers, people who step up to the microphone, close their eyes and begin to TR, those who are willing to be at risk in their own lives, in their careers, in their society and their social enhancement, to be at this task.  We have an immense respect for them, though we accord them no special rights.  

 

There are individuals, who operate on a co-creative, cooperative public basis with us, whom we feel are competent.  Those who are not competent or worthy eventually find the need to leave the fold, and many have, as you know.  Yet we seek many who are capable of so much more, whose visioning is deeper and whose capacity to be in touch with us is so much more immediate.  Yet, we move ahead and we are making progress.  You have moved from the Teaching Mission to the Magisterial Mission, both are operating side-by-side, and I may add, my dear friends, that the Teaching Mission is not dead, but is only in its early stages yet.  It has so much more work to do.  Your teacher corps is ever present and ready to leap forward to new groups, to initiate that first two years of work for you to do, before moving on.  It is not a state of accomplishment, but is only a beginning of what you see now are simply examples of what will become.  Thank you for your question.  (Thank you very much.  I will study your words.)

 

Let me finish with something that is related.  When you come to these groups, hold yourself as one mind; hold yourself in the presence.  Be the presence, be the source, be the pool and the drops that become the pool.  Hold this within this group's container and assist those who work for you, work with you, those who TR and those who work with the individual who speaks.  Your energy, your oneness, your commonality assists palpably the content of what comes forward.  It is almost immediately measurable to us to know those who are participating, or those who are on idle, and those who are thinking their own thoughts.  You can do both:  you can hold the space here, and maintain your own thinking - a consciousness of this presence and your own individuality.  Groups throughout the world can be far more conscientious and capable and provide a much more meaningful and readable message when they do this.  We know that you desire to do this, but need a reminder once in a while.  

 

I thank you and I thank the Teacher Corps who have assisted me in this lesson today.  This is Monjoronson-I wish you well and God bless you.  (Appreciation from the group.)

 

 
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