[tmtranscripts] Arcadia, September 4, 2006
Larry Whelan
lwhelan at sbcglobal.net
Sun Sep 17 14:28:48 PDT 2006
Arcadia Teaching Mission Group PR
Arcadia, California, U.S.A.
Monday, Sept. 4, 2006, 7:30pm
Teachers: JarEl
TR: George Benavides
Topics: How we are fortunate.
How each needs to reinterpret
what they see and hear to arrive at their
own individual version of the truth.
God continually speaks to us and through us.
Take the knowledge you have
and help reinvent the world for all humanity.
Questions: How do we counsel people who want to know why dire things happen?
Does forgiving people mean we
are to overlook their wrongdoing?
Does he who lives by the sword die by the sword?
If there is no hell, how are wrongdoers punished?
Is the choice whether or not
to survive always deferred to the mansion
Worlds?
Prayer: Larry: Dear Father thank you for this
gathering. Thank you for all of the blessings
that you have bestowed on each one of us. Help
us to be good stewards of those blessings in our
lives. We pray for peace in this world. We pray
for the coming of Monjoronson. We pray for the
coming of Light and Life. In Christ Michaels name, Amen.
JarEl: TR, George: Greetings, it is I, your
Teacher JarEl. It is good to be back again among
my friends and welcome to those who have not been
here in a while. You are fortunate to have the
opportunity to receive the knowledge that has been imparted to you.
You are fortunate to have been able to arrive at
this point in your earth careers. You are
fortunate to have been illuminated by certain
truths that exist within your world. What you
have learned and what we say here is by no means
meant to frustrate you or make you give up on the
world. It is simply information which you must
absorb and reinterpret for the later projection
of what will be your version. You will find from
time to time that almost everyone reinterprets
the truth in their own way and so must you
interpret the truths that you find in your own
way. The reinterpretation of these truths allows
you to be more sincere, allows you to make it
your own and it also allows you to qualify it as
something real in your life. Simply repeating a
truth that you have heard carries no
value. However, if you were to absorb that truth
and reinterpret it in your own way of how you
think best to speak of it, then that value is
doubled. ---------(unintelligible lost)
In this world whatever you see, whatever you hear
and whatever you think is interpreted in such a
way that you create your own truths in your own
way. This qualifies as creation for any idea
that you spawn is an addition to the ideas that
exist in this world. So often people live in
fear, so often are they afraid to speak of the
truth, for they imagine that the truth is beyond
them. They imagine that the truth is solidified
and crystallized. They imagine that the truth is
some far off distant idea that was established
long before their own generation. But you, as
ambassadors of light, know better and know that
the truth is constantly being reinvented. God
constantly speaks through you and to you. There
is no cessation of messages or ideas; there is
still a connection that is open to all of you who
have ears to listen. So do not be afraid of your
ideas, do not be afraid of your thoughts, do not
be afraid of having the ability to speak the
truth, for all of you are capable of doing
this. All of you are capable of receiving these
messages and qualifying them as messages from God.
Take the knowledge that you have and use it to
break through the mediocrity that exists in this
world. Use this information to infuse this
planet with new energy and new ideals. Take the
knowledge that you have and help reinvent this
world for the sake of all of humanity. After
all, great nations are born from ideas and,
therefore, great spiritual nations shall be born
of the idea of the Fatherhood of God and the
brotherhood of man. Be sincere when you speak
these truths and people shall listen.
Are there any questions here tonight?
Stella: Well, I have something that has puzzled
me. We hear that Monjoronson said that there
will be some great dire happening that will
change everything in the world; governments,
economics and all that. If we are those who
happen to remain, how do we counsel the people
who want to know why this all happened? If we
tell them that it was in the Divine plan, then
people will see how that confirms what the
fundamentalists have been saying; that God causes
these terrible things. So how do we reply? What
do we say? How do we teach the people?
JarEl: TR, George: Do not be too eager to
explain these happenings to people. All in due
time my dear Stella. First and foremost you must
attend to the matter of survival, you must attend
to the matter of organization and
community-building. You must attend to the
matter of consoling people, those who have lost many loved ones.
As the years pass, you will receive more
enlightened messages. Your spiritual connection
shall be better, and these questions that you
have regarding the tact you must use to
communicate to these people the realities of the
universe, will be provided to you. We do not
advise to immediately proclaim why certain things
happen. Allow for the individual to come to
terms with such events, allow them to go through
the grieving process, allow them to have a stable
time before you introduce such a radical idea to them, in their eyes.
Perhaps to you it is not so radical, but to
someone who is suffering from shock, this sort of
thing is not advisable. You will know the time
and date to begin communicating to those who will
listen, but be patient and be mindful of your
surroundings and know when to say the right thing.
Are there any other questions?
Stella: I have another question. In the Lords
prayer it says
forgive us our trespasses as we
forgive those who trespass against us. Now,
does forgiving those who trespass against us mean
that we are to overlook some wrongdoing that they did?
JarEl: TR, George: From an individual point
of view you may come to forgive someone who has
wronged you, and that goes towards your own
personal salvation. However, as a society, there
are rules and laws and people must abide by
them. For obvious reasons one cannot overlook
wrongdoing. You may, at one point, come to
forgive someone who has harmed you. But, as a
society, you will not survive if you continually
forgive everyone of their wrongdoing. Society
must continue intact. Therefore, rules and
regulations that are established by your
civilization must be followed. So, from a
personal standpoint, yes, you can overlook
someones wrongdoing, but from a societys point of view, you cannot.
Does that answer your question? (Yes, it does, thank you.)
Stella: Suppose a person does something very,
very wrong and evil. Now, is there any truth in
the saying He who lives by the sword will die by
the sword? In other words, those who foment war
in this world, will they, in turn, be subject to
what they meted out to others? Or will that wait
until they are on the other side and if they are
on the other side, what do they do? Because lots
of people believe in hell, they believe hell will
be the place where people are punished, but, if
theres no hell, what will be their punishment?
JarEl: TR, George: To answer the first part of
your question, a person can definitely receive
some sort of consequence from their own actions
in this lifetime. So, yes, if you do live by the
sword, you can definitely die by it as well. But
if, for some reason, that person escapes any and
all consequence related to their actions in this
lifetime, at one point they must answer for
everything they have done. Just as you must
answer to everything you have done in this world as well.
Sometimes having to revisit much of what they had
done, causes within them such pain and sorrow,
that it feels like hell to them. So, although
there is no hell, the experience that they must
go through, qualifies it as such for they must
look at themselves and must see what they have
done to others and to themselves. You will often
find that as people have to look at themselves
many are afraid to see who they are for they are
afraid of what they might find. So they avoid
any sort of retrospection and they fall into a
pattern of filling in preconceived
attitudes. There are no established rules in
this world that you must follow, you are all
unique individuals. If you ever have the
opportunity to truly see who you are, by all
means, take it and experience that tremendous
knowledge of self knowing. But if you
continuously hide yourself, if you continuously
avoid the internal experience, then you are
doomed to live a hellish experience in the next realm.
For it truly will be painful for you to
experience all of the harm that you have
inflicted on others. This pain is mostly
emotional pain of which I speak. There is no physical pain associated to this.
John: In regard to Stellas question, I would
like to expand on it a little bit. It is amazing
that she asked this question because I was in
discussion with my wife today, while talking
about the Bible and telling her that there is no
hell. She asked me, What happens to these
people then, what kind of punishment do they get
for their evil? If this person who does the
evil doesnt experience any kind of consequences
in this lifetime, and they dont survive, is it
possible I guess I mean the greatest punishment
anyone could ask for is to not survive anyway, in
my opinion. Perhaps, is it true that, the good
that could come out of this evil, that people are
subjected to, and what they can get out of it,
having to pass through the experience of dealing
with this evil, in a way compensates somehow for
this persons not getting any kind of a punishment?
JarEl: TR, George: That is true. There is much
good that can eventually be derived from
evil. For everything can turn to good
eventually. Even a supposed evil person that
dies and goes on to the mansion world can return
to good. We prefer not to lose souls in this
universe and the Fathers plan is perfect and
immense. Even though many of us may not
understand much of what He does, we certainly
accept it and do not question it. If you
question why such a person should survive, that
person is limited in your scope and view for you
have very little knowledge of how the universe
works. You have very little experience of how
long you will live and you know very little of
how such a person can change over time. Much of
what is done in this world is done through sin
and error and many of you simply do not know any
better. But there will be a time when all of
this is explained to you fully and then you can
make the adequate choice of continuing your
spiritual career. Even such a person of ill
repute can change and be good. We have seen it
happen many times. The pain and suffering that
many of you experience because of these evil
people is of little consequence in the grand
scheme of things. Soon this world will seem like
a dream to you and what was done on this world
will no longer matter for all who die continue.
Larry: JarEl you are saying that since we are
all freewill individuals and we make the choice
whether to continue or not, you are saying that
everyone resurrects on the mansion worlds and
there is nobody that makes the choice here on
this earth and says I dont want to
continue? Arent there people on this earth who
are so evil that theyve gone away so far from
God, that they just wont survive? Because in
the Bible it does say that the wages of sin is
death. That seems to me that there are people
who make a choice here, or does that choice have
to be made in the mansion worlds and beyond?
JarEl: TR, George: The universe is just and the
universe affords you every opportunity to
repent. How can you repent when you do not have
all the knowledge available to you; when you
simply do not know. Such a person who has become
iniquitous has distanced themselves from God and
perhaps even severed their connection through
their Thought Adjuster. But that person is given
one more chance to repent. The grand universe is
illustrated before their eyes so that they might
have full knowledge of what they might give
up. If then that person does decide to end their
life, then that choice is final. But that choice
is not made here on this planet. Make sure that
you understand this. (Thank you) You are welcome.
Do not be so concerned with the salvation of
others for your life is enough to handle. I will
leave you with that and goodnight.
All: Goodnight JarEl
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