[tmtranscripts] FW: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE 4-12-07 [ADJUSTER SERIES]

[Tom Newbill]

SUBJECT: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE  4-12-07 ADJUSTER SERIES

TEACHER: MARK ROGERS, THE VOICE, MONJORENSON

T/R: MARK ROGERS

Prayer: Dear Lord, make us instruments of your peace. Where there is hatred
let us bring love. Where there is injury let us pardon, where there is doubt
let us bring your faith. Where there is darkness let us be your light, where
there is sadness let them feel our [love]. Oh Divine Master, grant that we
may not seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to
understand, to be loved as to love. Make us the instruments of your peace
for it is in giving that we receive, in pardoning that we are pardoned and
in dying to our higher selves we live. Make us instruments of your peace oh
Father, oh Divine Parents, make us instruments of your peace.

Mark: I'm going to begin tonight by pulling some threads together that have
been out there in internet land that I have been privileged to come across.
I'm going to read a short paragraph from the teacher JarEl and the t/r is
George.

" God will always speak to you in your own voice so at times you will hear
nothing but your own voice speaking back to you. If you learn to listen and
discern these thoughts and as you begin to see that many of these thoughts
are not your own thoughts, then you can rest assured that much of this
information that you are receiving is from God for He constantly speaks to
you and He is always there for anything that you ask for granted that much
of what you ask takes time to be delivered and in the wisdom of God He might
not give you everything that you ask for simply because you do not know
what you want.

God of all people knows what you need and when you ask Him He gives it to
you. In the search for knowledge and truth if you ask you shall receive. God
is more than happy to provide you with the tools to reach Him. God is
ecstatic to see some of His children reaching out to Him. When His child
begins that arduous search for God He makes it possible for you to find the
clues that will send you on your way towards this grand adventure"

I wanted to make that point because the topic of this evenings gathering as
I reflect, is about the illumination of the presence of the Voice within,
which we just heard through another teacher is your voice within and I think
that's a good point, one that needs to be revisited. A lot of people
consider that they're waiting to hear a God-like voice which is profound and
different and somehow undeniably grand. I'm here to promote what was just
read, the idea that the reason you may not have recognized fully your
spiritual component of your thought adjuster, your indwelling spirit, your
personal inner voice, is because it sounds just like you. It is you, it uses
your voice. There's no other thing it can be and so if we're waiting to hear
from God to be distinct and different from anything we recognize, we're not
going to hear it.

I point this out because I think all of us have kind of assumed
differentness would be apparent in this process and it's more of an
identification of a sameness than an identification in any way of the
differentness. It's kind of a  hard line to draw. Also, it needs to be
clarified I believe, the distinction between two different processes. At the
end of last week's session there was some impromptu discussion back and
forth. There was reference made to the fact that perhaps people could
address entities like teachers, like Machiventa, perhaps they didn't need to
consider writing down or addressing in any way their intentions towards the
teachers but that they would just know.

Where that came from is that Allene and I were talking back and forth. We
have a gift from God, as are all things, that allows us to have a
relationship with personalities, that allow us to discourse and talk about
and that is the t/ring process that you tune in for on a weekly basis. That
is distinctly different and it need s to be noted that the presence of your
indwelling fragment which is onboard with you at all times, which is so
intertwined with you as to be indistinguishable and yet that is what we are
searching for, some identification of that, some awareness, and we find
that awareness when we can find ourselves in conjunction with some spiritual
episode that has been uplifting for us.

In those times we are quite close to our indwelling fragment. It can be just
an inspiring thought, it can be an act of service, it can be any one of
millions of things. That is distinct and different from the process some of
us are engaged in of rather allowing ourselves to be utilized by our unseen
friends and associates in this process and really partnering with them to
allow this to happen. It is not meant to suggest that everyone should have
the goal or desire or purpose in any way to set themselves out to be t/r's.
I just wanted to make that distinction. They are two different things and
they overlap. Certainly our individual experience tells us that they
cannot hardly be teased apart from each other, it's all part of your
spiritual development but there are different aspects and the one we are
here today to discuss everybody has.

Everybody has access to it. None of us can get  away from not having access
to it. We're just trying to fine tune our skill with which we are going to
interface with that spirit component of ourself and that's what we are here
to do and that's what we come to the teachers for, is some heads up on what
we need to do to help in this process of learning and working towards that.
So I hope that portrays a little clarification about those distinct things
and it depends on who you are talking to and what their experience is.

We have to recall, Allene and I, that we have been at this a very long time
and we've had lots of experiences which provide us with a kind of wealth of
information but there lots of people out there who don't have our experience
and so the act of t/ring is not what we're here to train in. I don't know
even how to do that but the act of coming closer to our individual fragments
is something we can all do and get close to and so I'd like to turn it over
to the teachers at this point for the guidance that we love to hear from
them. It's very strange talking when it seems that there is nobody out there
but I'm just going to go ahead.

The Voice: Greetings, I am this one's voice and I am welcomed into this
arena 
to instigate another level of connection. I ask you each to consider in this
moment, granting your onboard partners permission, right now, to act in your
best interest as they always do, and to do so with your permission, perhaps
even your petition. In this way we can circle up another group of us who are
in attendance. You all have formed your circle of light, your energy field
and if you so grant, your indwelling voices may as well join forces and act
on your behalf. This can become a potent exercise when  you become in
awareness of your powers of multiplication when you overlay additional
energy circuits with your activation of your intention.

Attempt to create a dialog with yourself in the next few days. Having
granted your inner guide permission, expect to receive a response and in the
next few days use your keenest senses to discern a sort of dialog with your
own voice. That is how you will hear it and you will consider that it is
just you and then reach farther and consider it may be more than you, that
your voice may be the carrier wave for divine intention, inspiration, peace
and love. The activation of your own thought patterns likewise may be the
way divinity becomes manifested.

It is designed to be exactly this way. You are powerful creators just now
awakening to your potential and you will soon realize the correlation
between your own thoughts and your own inspired thoughts. It is common to
assume that additions to your thought stream must have come from some
external source that you overheard but you will learn to consider that these
enhanced thoughts may very well be internal in nature and yet inspired from
on high.

You can allow that this is by design, then this is simply a role that you
fulfill, a destiny that you fulfill and all is as it should be in this
process. There has been activation, whether or not you were in awareness,
there has been activation of a central part of your being. Now in these days
ahead look for that change, that sense. Allow yourself to perceive deeper
and farther. I am overjoyed to participate in such a magnificent
encircuitment as was created right before our eyes. I now withdraw and
resume my submissive position in this relationship, waiting to be asked,
waiting to be invited. I was here as a result of this invitation and I will
return with any future invitation. In the blink of an eye I am back. Thank
you for accepting my presence and for embracing your own Father presence
within.

Monjoronson: Greetings I am Monjoronson once again here to enjoy communing
with such a dedicated  group. We are indeed all of us fortunate to be in
this place of such newness and miracles. Together we witness what creative
potential is capable of and can only marvel at the glory and grandeur that
is bestowed as grace in this process. I truly do wish that you could have a
greater sense of perception for all that is transpiring around you, even
within you.

I recognize that in your present form you are quite limited in your capacity
to feel spirit influences and I do wish that you had more of a morontia
sense to observe and feel the magnificence that is in play all about you.
One day you will revisit this time in a reflective mode and you will be
surprised at your minimal level of awareness of all that was transpiring
about you. Perhaps that is appropriate and good for where you are in this
mortal experience. You need to focus on what your next step is and not to be
distracted by the implications of universal ramifications.

It is best that we remain focused and humble about the role we play in
creating this new reality before us. I encourage you to accept the
invitation offered to create an internal dialog with yourself so that you
may begin to practice this process. This will be quite helpful to you as you
are engaged in this experience if you can touch base and be confirmed with
your approach and attitude by your higher self. This takes practice and that
is why it would be good to just begin, start out. If you are inclined to
then write down your dialog, your questions, your responses, your musings,
your understandings you will begin to see in later consideration that there
were inspired points and clear moments in your dialog.

You will begin to associate more and more with those times, those episodes
and in this way you will more and more quickly revisit that place where you
receive these inspirations and answers and confirmations. Just the act of
practicing anything demonstrates to the universe your intentions, your
desires so if you are truly desiring a direction, to explore a vista, to
seek, then here is a serviceable suggestion of a new arena that you can
enter of creating this safe environment where you will entertain yourself,
your higher self and the self that you consider you are in this moment.

If you set this up in your scenario then you will have a place to return to
and revisit this spiritual connection, establish the circuitry once again
and receive the spiritual waters that you thirst for. This truly is the
greatest key to living ever offered and yet as freely offered as this is, it
is so rarely accepted. This is your passage out of this experience and your
guide throughout your journey. I would contain my remarks to those. Would
there be any questions or dialog from any out there in the constellation
sitting around the fire with us?

Q: Hello, it is good to hear your voice again. I have a two part question.
The first pertains to human beings who have accepted the reality of trying
to experience the morontia life or morontia mota while living here on this
planet and the new awareness that it provides and no doubt with the
intention of light and life we are going to at some point have human beings
experiencing fusion. I read somewhere in the Urantia book that that some
beings who are living here have traversed the seven psychic circles and yet
fusion is delayed for some reason. Is there any particular reason why a
fusion candidate would not experience this in this time frame or to be
delayed for some time in the future. If someone approaches that state of
existence would they experience fusion and what procedure would that take
with regards to information to other Urantia readers of the world in
general?

Monjoronson: The primary cause of the phenomenon of postponing fusion is the
desire of individuals to be of service. It is literally true that many will
put their careers on hold so to speak to fill a need that they see, in fact
to be of service, to gain experience, to possess what can only be gained
through experience. For these very potent considerations many do choose to
delay their diploma so to speak of having arrived at the state where they
are considered fusion candidates. It is quite an honorable thing to
volunteer to stay behind with the others that you may help in their
ascension careers and all the while you are getting the rewards of being in
service.

To ones that master achievements of significance in their spiritual career,
they are often granted latitude to choose their ascension paths and
customize their experiences. This is another element granted [by] the Father
around free will choice and its importance and significance. I would make
mention of a statement that you made as a means of further clarification.
Your statement was "it is good to hear your voice again" and I am motivated
to reinforce what I believe you already know and that is that what you hear
in these hours, these word symbols, these vocal chords that resonate are not
mine. I borrow them.

My partner has agreed to help me as I attempt to squeeze concepts into words
and out through vocal chords but what you hear distinctly is not me except
in my personality and my tone that you recognize as being me. It may come
through other t/r's and sound significantly different but what you are
recognizing is a sense of my personality as if I walked into a dark room
with you and no words were spoken, as if I approached you in the darkness
and you could feel who it was that approached you. That is how you are
experiencing my presence. We are using this vehicle, we are also using
telephones and antennas and satellites but what we are sharing, what is us
is our individual spirit, our personality traits, characteristics, we have a
tone, we have a color, we have light as part of our composition, we are
energy.

All these things together create a signature of who we are and this
signature remains who we are throughout, no matter what set of vocal chords
we may use, what language or vocabulary we may choose we are still who we
are regardless. We may know each other throughout this entire experience by
this process of sensing our presence and you will feel my presence anytime
you come in contact with my energy even if it has been captured in a
transcript or a recording. It will still contain my energy, my signature,
who I am. I point this out because we are developing this circuitry as well.
The abilities to be able to sense each other, perceive each other, feel each
others existence.

We will take on many different manifestations and have many different
shapes, speak many different languages, have numerous manifestations which
are distinctly different. But yet in any one of those we can recognize each
other because our essence, our spiritual self, our personality and our
companion, our onboard guide, will all still be present as who we are, will
combine to form our energy signature. This is the enduring part of you after
this earthly life has run its course and we will meet again under different
circumstances but we will recognize each other because we have formed this
relationship spirit to spirit, presence to presence. So no matter where we
may find ourselves of what form or in what section of the galaxy we will
remain who we are and be recognized as such throughout this process. Any
more comments or questions?

Q: Thank you so much for that explanation. It is the essence of what I was
thinking.  I seem to have chosen the wrong expression. The question I asked
originally, if somebody chooses not to remain here with the mission and
chooses to move on to the mansion worlds as was in the case with Enoch and
Elijah that we're aware of, would this transaction of fusion to be known to
the world in general or just within our group, if that person chooses to
move on to the mansions worlds?

Monjoronson: It is highly unlikely that any individual decision would be
earth shaking news after all there are numerous human beings engaged at
their death in spontaneous combustion and yet it is seen as not unusual, not
unnatural. We are approaching a time of greater spiritual awareness and
there will certainly arrive a point at which we will possess the awareness
of the potential of spirit even to manifest in such physical acts as the
dissolution of fusion. So I think it is simply a matter of time until we get
to that point. In the meanwhile where we find ourselves, now, I am not sure
that many would have the recognition of what actually transpired.

Those like yourselves who are endeavoring to spread greater understanding of
such principles are facilitating this process of the elevation of spiritual
awareness and at some point this information may become more or less common
knowledge but as you are quite aware, your discoveries which have so
liberated you in your understanding are so vastly unheard of and unknown by
the majority of mortals on this world. This can certainly change and change
rapidly but the picture we would take today, I would have to say that there
are not too many people who are possessed of an understanding to even
properly observe such a phenomena so the event itself may fall on deaf ears
so to speak until there is an upliftment of understanding and awareness.

But it is rejoiced that there are those like yourselves who can contemplate
such spiritually advanced principles and their implications. It is for
thinkers such as yourselves which pave the way for the others to understand
and accept. So thank you for your efforts in service towards that end.

Q: Hello Monjoronson, good evening. [Hello] Basically I want to thank you
for your work, your life, your industry towards us and want to ask you how
are you doing, how was your week and how is the ministry out there in the
universe in general? It occurred to me that it is somewhat important for me
and us in a sense in a relationship with you guys to ask how are you, how
are you doing? Usually my approach has been o.k. you are fine, everything is
perfect, Michael is fine, everything is perfect and He is having a good
time, no stress, no problems as it were, it is well. There is no need to ask
how are you doing and I was thinking that in a relationship with our fellow
human beings in a cordial relationship where we ask how are you, how are
things with you, I thought as it were that it would not be out of place to
ask such questions in our dealings with our brothers and sisters on the
other side of the veil. I just take this opportunity to venture out, to ask
the teachers, and you are here right now, to ask you how are you, how is
your week?

>From what you said about combustion, from my understanding, the body Enoch
of Elijah disappeared. Are these things happening today in this present
decade. I 'm from Nigeria and I have heard stories where highly spiritual
minded human beings know they are going to leave the planet. They even tell
their family members they are leaving soon. A preacher of the gospel named
Adam shortly before he left called his daughter and in her presence just
left.  He was fine, healthy but the body did not disappear, was not
consumed. That is a unique case and there are others around the world. Are
such cases happening today? Your comments would be appreciated?

Monjoronson: First, your question about fusion and the effects on the human
vehicle. It is certainly a potential on this world for individuals to reach
a point of fusion in this decade, in this day and arriving at such place
there is great spiritual charge to having made such an accomplishment. There
are no predestined scenarios to occur when this happens. It is quite
possible that the enlightened one might choose to dissolve the vehicle upon
leaving and it is quite possible that that would be of no interest to the
departing individual. It would be a matter of choice as to how they would
like their transformation to proceed but I would declare that it is entirely
possible that individuals would never be seen again.

This happens rather routinely on your planet and so it should not be much of
a surprise that this is one of the ways individuals may choose to exit this
experience and proceed onward. Likewise you might choose as an ascendant
master to maintain the vehicle for great periods of time. You have heard of
the masters of the Far East who live for hundreds of years. This too is
within the realm of potential. So I need to expand your boundaries on what
is 
perceived as possible because you are just now wading into the pool of
potential of creativity and you will discover that one of the things that
you have to be creative with is your vehicle and that you choose much of how
your existence with your vehicle will be and there are people who provide
many examples of extraordinary things that their vehicles do and yet they
are all the human form or perhaps even above that, they are all energy forms
and as energy the concept of fusion is quite tangible.

I now address your question of your response in asking myself or perhaps the
others, how we are doing? I appreciate the sentiment attached to the desire
to commune and develop intimacy through the process of sharing back and
forth how we are doing. It is illustrative of another avenue of interest
because in your comments you suggested you weren't sure how appropriate it
was to ask because you may assume  that someone in Michael's position for
instance, is always doing well and I will affirm for you that those of us of
advanced spiritual stature have an awareness that truly does belie our
understanding that all is well.

>From your perspective the very question, how are you doing, comes with an
understanding that given all your material obstacles and considerations you
may be challenged and not be doing well. It is part of your material
existence to have to negotiate through rather an obstacle course of
opportunities and challenges and that at any given time you are quite used
to finding yourselves in a state of unwellness as a result of your
undergoing your experiences.

Such is not the case on high because the more you are ascended the more you
realize that truly everything is as it should be, that all is well and that
your awareness of that makes it so. Your appreciation for the divinity of
the plan overrides any individual occurrence or event or situation with a
pervasive sense of well being and goodness. This does not imply that there
is no encounter with negativity or sadness or doubt or fear and those are
all present out there to be experienced but when you approach any of those
encounters with a overall sense of profound goodness you are always finding
yourself doing grand. Not only do you do well, you do grand when you
function in the awareness that this gigantic plan that we are engaged in
always works out, always works to the best possible avenue even if we are
unable to see it in any one short glimpse that we have.

Our faith and our trust carry with them a sense of well being and therefore
we literally do not have to inquire of each other whether or not we are
feeling good because we are being good and are not subject to any particular
encounter offsetting us from our intentions of goodness. So I appreciate
your consideration and your desire to reach out. I accept any of your
efforts to bridge this space between us but you were right, I point out, in
your impression that to truly divine beings, there is no other state and
that in fact it is not necessary to inquire of anyone of Michael's stature
as to whether He feels good or is doing well at any particular time. He has
mastered good, He is well and you too shall rise to this place of being and
becoming that which you strive for now in your daily lives, questions of how
are you doing today, how are you doing this week, did you maintain spiritual
composure, did you have peace, was there joy or were you pummeled by life's
circumstances and challenged by the many obstacles of material existence. I
appreciate  your observations my friend, thank you. [ Thank you very much.]

If there are no other questions then I will take this opportunity to draw
this incredible meeting of light beings to a close. I refer to you each one.
I also refer to those you may not sense immediately who are also present.
But you are mortal vessels of light, each one and when we assemble like this
we create a beautiful chandelier of light. It is my pleasure and privilege
to be one of the bulbs among you this evening. Thank you for this
opportunity, I look forwards to meeting with you again, farewell.



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