[tmtranscripts] FW: MONJORONSON.COM Q/A SESSION #12 7-23-08

[Tom Newbill]

SUBJECT: MONJORONSON.COM  Q/A  SESSION #12  7-23-08

TEACHER: MONJORONSON

T/R: HENRY ZERINGUE

MODERATOR: MARY ROGERS

Prayer: [Henry] Michael and Nebadonia, thank you for your energy connection,
the universal spirit connection to this planet. Ground me in this presence
and complete circuit. It seems like Nebadon is so far away and  Salvington
is half a universe away that your presence and your majesty is somewhere
else but there is a greatness which we read about, there is a wonderful
blessing that we all receive. It is good to feel the love and the presence
in this connection, to know that you are real, to know that your divine love
is real. It makes one feel worthy to be here this evening in this connection
with spirit, this circuit wherein we invite all celestial personalities
especially our guest of honor tonight, Monjoronson.

Monjoronson: [Henry] Thank you again for this opportunity to be here, this
is Monjoronson. This evening it is good to be here in this enclosed circuit,
this small group of dedicated beings who field questions from their peers
and field the answers from me. I honor this process with my presence and my
attention, let us begin, thank you.

Q #1: [Mary] Thank you for being here Monjoronson. The first question we'll
start with is one which I do not have the actual print out of but I remember
reading it and it is a question about astrology. There was some discussion
on the website about the Urantia Book statement regarding astrology and this
person recognized that yes, the Urantia Book did make statements that
astrology is a "mass of superstitious error". This person still wants to ask
this question because the Urantia Book was written a while back and the part
that talked about astrology was a quote when Jesus was talking to a group
about superstition.

This person feels that astrology has come a long way and that many people
recognize some of the personality generalizations that astrology makes do
seem to bear out in our observations and the persons question was basically:
do the positions of the planets and the stars have an effect on
personalities as they manifest on Urantia? Thank you for addressing this
question Monjoronson. We appreciate the help in understanding the things we
come across in this world and appreciate your attention to our questions.

Monjoronson: [Henry] This is Monjoronson, thank you for your question. I
thank you for your concern about whether or not the planets affect
personality and life as you know it for the personalities on Urantia and the
concerns expressed on the pages of the Urantia Book. The Urantia Book
statement has to do with a belief system, astrology, that is purely human in
origin, not celestial in origin. Celestial in terms of celestial
personalities, from this viewpoint, the celestial personality viewpoint,
astrology has no bearing on a persons spiritual progress and it has less
bearing on mans personality accomplishments with his indwelling adjuster.

For this reason astrology does not hold much prominence from a celestial
perspective, nonetheless, from the human perspective it would appear that
personality traits can be somewhat categorized according to the types of
personalities which exist now on your planet. With the help of the typical
planetary and sun alignment within the universe, what is important to
understand from a human standpoint is that even though the alignment of
celestial bodies and their categories during the solar year do not
necessarily indicate certain choices for mankind, though there may be
similarities, it is important to understand that man always has a choice in
every moment that choice can be exercised.

As long as this, I think it was called pseudo science, manifests certain
characteristics that are intrinsic to certain signs and certain birthdays
and certain years, these characteristics and traits play no part as to mans
overall spiritual nature and growth and development along spiritual lines.
Another concept the Urantia Book was trying to avoid was for humans to
become preoccupied with things that do not have spiritual bearing. This is
the main concern with the authors of the particular papers that these
descriptions arise.

There are many many concepts on the planet which are purely human. They are
mental associations dealing with trying to understand things which have very
little meaning. The fact that men can track planets is a fascinating pastime
for man and a tremendous profession for astrophysicists. But again this is a
purely human fascination, It has to do with human life on Urantia during
this time. For the most part the personalities who were solicited to present
papers to the Urantia Book were asked not to tremendously or in an
overbearing sense, criticize much of the human endeavor on the planet which
is not purely spiritual and for the most part this consideration and its
attempt was successful.

There are some slight references of course to some of the human conditions
on the planet such as sex planet, such as so called religion. In all of
these efforts to understand about why you are the way you are it is good to
begin to understand that you can be better than you are now, that there is
something intrinsic within the human soul, the human psyche which transcends
the movement of celestial bodies. There is something within the human
consciousness which can bring this human consciousness to the center of
celestial consciousness, to the whom of celestial consciousness.

This is more in line with what the Urantia Book was intending to draw the
reader into understanding and it still stands that there is not much
spiritual agenda per se in Urantian astrology and it is relatively harmless
as long as it leaves an avenue open for human choice to exist in the moment.
You may be influenced by the weather in making decisions, you may be
influenced by economic considerations when making a decision and you may be
bombarded with astrology in making a decision and you may be bombarded by
all of these in making a decision but in no way should decisions be
influenced by mere external consequences when internally there exists a
present such that brings one to a better understanding of the decision at
hand and a presence which will even guide the individual to make that choice
that is in the individuals best interest.

So in considering my words here this evening, again be aware of the purely
physical consequences of life which bear down upon a brother or sister who
is genuinely trying to discern the spiritual and divine presence within
their heart and soul. I thank you for your question.

Q#2: [Mary] Thank you for addressing that Monjoronson. One of the questions
we have tonight interestingly enough has to do with astronomy and there is
someone who has been viewing an asteroid and this asteroid has been named
Tutakus and they have been on the NASA website where you can do simulations
of astronomical events or progressions and they have viewed the simulation
of this asteroid which travels in an elliptical orbit around the sun and
every four years passes near the earth. In their simulation of the asteroid
passing near to the earth the next time which will be on Nov. 9th of this
year, the proximity is supposed to be 71/2 million kilometers between this
asteroid and earth. This individual would like to know if it is possible for
you to double check that prediction, they want to know if that is fairly
accurate and if you could answer that and thank you for considering this
question.

Monjoronson: [Henry] Greetings, this is Monjoronson and I thank you for your
concern this evening. It is going to be tremendously difficult to answer
your question for several reasons one of which pertains to the fact that I
am not particularly engaged in all of the space debris which gets trapped
into the gravitational system of your solar system of Urantia. I am more in
the realm of spiritual adjudicator of the planet. I am more concerned about
the asteroids in your own brain, wondering when one is going to hit the mark
that you go, "aha", there is something within me that knows more than I do.

My child, be of gentle concern with asteroids, with the planetary awareness
of its surroundings. I can tell you for a fact that you live in a
tremendously precarious solar system, one that is in no fashion settled,
near settled. If earths astronomers begin to understand a little more of
their surroundings in a cosmic physical nature it is important to be aware
of this phenomena in the sense that you are aware of what is going on
outside of your planetary sphere of influence in terms of solar system
phenomena which indirectly does affect Urantia.

But my child, it is of the utmost importance that you understand that there
are phenomena within your own mind that beg for acknowledgement and it's
only a few microns away from your ability to discern it, this divine
presence within, So again I thank you for your question this evening and
hopefully by not answering your question I have shed some light into a
greater arena of speculation, thank you.

Q #3: [Mary] Thank you Monjoronson.  We have one final question this
evening. This person states that around 1986 they were awakened by a being
who was 71/2 feet tall and looking at them in a friendly manner. They want
to know if it is permitted that they know who this being was and why they
awakened them so that they could see this person, thank you.

Monjoronson: [Henry] This is Monjoronson, thank you for your question and
more specifically thank you for the vagueness of your question since you do
not mention whether this being was a physical being, a being of light, an
off world being, a perceived figment of your imagination or any other
description which would give some significance to your asking. In general,
on Urantia, most of the beings which have access to appear in some
semi-physical form to you would be the midway creatures and it is possible
that the sighting was of a midway creature.

There are many reasons that possibly you were awakened to see this being, I
will give you a few reasons. This being could have been working with you,
singularly or as a couple to prepare you for some future event. It may be
that the supposed midway creature allowed you to see its presence while it
was conducting a survey which may be important to the future genetic race of
Urantia. Of course any more speculative reassurances would be just that.

The possibility exists for you to seek the answer within to get some sense
of guidance and direction as to the nature and presence of the being which
you saw and if my question falls short of contributing any information which
you do not already possess I would suggest that you be a little more
specific in describing the being in terms of its nature; whether it was
physical, semi-physical, a being of light and what kind of form did it
appear. I thank you for your concern this evening.

Mary: Monjoronson, I would ask, after reading the questions this evening I
think that people may wonder, I know when I was first involved with the
teaching mission I thought all of these personalities can probably read my
mind and they probably know so much. I think I had to attenuate my
understanding through experience of the parameters under which celestial
personalities operate and interact with us. What I'm getting at is perhaps
you could clarify the areas or arenas in which you are particularly
functioning and the areas in which people could ask questions because I
believe it's possible that folks think you know everything and you are
everywhere and that kind of thing. What limitations are we working with I
suppose might be my question off the cuff? It  might be nice for the people
who are going to read this to maybe have a little more guidance about
appropriate areas of questioning.

Monjoronson: [Henry] Thank you Mary for your concerns and yes, your concerns
warrant an explanation and a discussion about the nature of my presence on
this website and the parameters of interest and concerns to which I am most
prepared to answer. Certainly all inquiries of a spiritual nature would be
at the top of the list. Things of a spiritual nature have to do with:

-Relationships:

-How we interact with each other:

-How we treat and interact with those who we are responsible for and how do
we treat and act with people in general, in a social sense:

-How is society progressing in terms of insuring that your particular belief
systems are being honored:

-How demands, consequences and ramifications of actions play out in a cosmic
sense of reality:

-Questions having to do with the divine presence within, any questions
pertaining to the divine presence within:

-Any questions pertaining with mans ascension and mans functioning in a
spiritual cosmology:

-Any questions which relate to bringing mans spiritual and inner life to
play upon mans external life, the life which others see, by which we are
perceived for obviously not everything that we think is obvious through our
actions all the time:

-Some scientific questions of a pertinent nature in which science impacts
mans spiritual destiny:

-Any questions dealing with sociological issues,The Fatherhood of God and
the brotherhood of man:

-Any questions which pertain to mans inclination to engender peace,
righteousness and justice to all men and women of all nations, of all races
on the planet: 

-Questions having to do with the overwhelming perplexity of mans fragile
human nature, mans fear based nature and the tiny hands to grasp the
gigantic and immense spiritual concepts which impinge upon the human
condition:

-Any questions dealing with the route society is taking by the
over-indulgences man creates; entertainment, clothes design, fashion, the
consuming of the planetary resources, the manipulation by a few people of
the behavior of many:

-Any questions having to do with social inequality; economic inequality;
political inequality; racial inequality; relationship inequality:

-Questions pertaining to the great march of time that man is on genetically,
mentally, physically on this world and the next:

-Any questions which seek to ask spiritual consciousness a better way in
which human consciousness can grow, can understand him or herself in a
greater cosmic reference:

-Any questions which have to do with bringing things from a fairly simple
and uncomplicated way of doing things that in many respects is not
tremendously functional, anything that relates to how man reacts to his
environment and how spirit acts to insure that society progress in a more
equable and sustainable fashion:

-Any questions that have to do with bringing a greater love to bear on the
human race:

-All of the myriads of questions which can be engendered through these few
suggestions.

It is not that curiosity questions, questions that have to do with the
purely curious of man's mental human nature; certainly we are sympathetic to
your concerns, nonetheless there are many aspects to the human condition
which the humans themselves are left to fend for. A lot of personal
information can also be secured from the thought adjuster, the divine
presence within. The greater question of the individual can only be
satisfied through the guidance, presence and continuing support of the
divine monitor.

So I thank you all for your concerns this evening, for again this energy
circuit in which I can appear to answer concerns on the website and through
the work of the diligent crew to physically put this into circulation, I
thank all involved.

Mary: Well you're welcome Monjoronson and our thanks is also returned to
you. We will meet again next week, thank you.




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