[tmtranscripts] FW: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session # 19 2008-09-09
Tom Newbill
t.oldbill at verizon.net
Thu Sep 18 20:36:27 PDT 2008
SUBJECT: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #19 2008-09-09
TEACHER: Monjoronson
T/R: Henry Zeringue
MODERATOR: Mary Rogers
Prayer: Greetings Michael, we come here this evening to encircuit with your
energy field, the spiritual energy field of Nebadon, the connection to
Monjoronson, to the celestial circuits. We ask for your love and support
this evening as we quiet down and focus on the tasks that are at hand. It is
good to be of service and help in this capacity. We respect the connection
and the circuitry as it lifts us from the daily mundane ordinary life and
brings us into the spiritually aware now. We ask for a few more moments to
center and focus our thoughts and to call upon Monjoronson this evening and
all other celestial presences both involved in the Monjoronson Mission and
the planetary and human issues at large.
Monjoronson: Good evening and welcome again to this question and answer
format for Monjoronson.com. It is good to be part of this circuit this
evening and we are ready to begin, thank you.
Q#1: [Mary] Good evening Monjoronson. It appears that people have been
spending time this week thinking about life and when it begins and what
happens in the next life and personality issues and such. There is a little
of a common thread to some of these and we will begin with a question which
asks a hypothetical situation. They want to know if this planet Urantia
never existed, would the beings that are born here have appeared anyway?
Monjoronson: Greetings, this is Monjoronson. Am I to answer a hypothetical
question with a hypothetical answer or am I to answer a hypothetical
question with a straight answer? From the answer of the hypothetical, if
Urantia didn't exist, neither would life here exist and it would exist
nowhere else since it was not given here. Just like the moment of now does
not exist anywhere else but in your life at this moment. Only with the
individual personality can life be expressed completely, thank you.
Q#2: [Mary] Thank you, another question was from someone who had read a
transcript where you had stated that a large number of souls that arrive on
the mansion worlds end up rejecting the eternal adventure and this
questioner would like it if you could give us a clearer understanding why
these souls would choose not to experience the eternal adventure, especially
since they made it to the mansion worlds?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. It is not so important that the
right hand knows what the left hand is doing. What is more important is that
the right hand work in synchronicity with the left hand. It is important for
individuals to be concerned with their own understanding of survival,
especially when it is in synch with the reality of survival, the promise
with the eternal sonship with the Father. The fact that there is not a
tremendously strong brotherhood of kingdom believers on the planet of
Urantia allows for many beliefs to coincide on this planet and beliefs are
not transformed in any fashion or manner as a soul passes through the portal
of death.
A large complete unification of the human intention and the brotherhood of
man to exist on Urantia would insure that all men would have a greater
chance of understanding the reality of surviving life, its tests and what
greatness awaits mankind and the planet through a loving and synchronous
relationship with the divine Adjuster in-dwelt in men. In the final
analysis, man must accept the divine mind to move forward. When man attempts
to move forward by rejecting the divine mind and demanding his own will on
reality, then that person creates a situation whereby it is tremendously
difficult to move forward.
Once that the decision has been made not to move forward and the separation
from humankind begins, it is much easier for such an individual to give up,
choose not to survive, believing it not at all to be a great reality at any
cost to that individual because it does not account for that individuals'
will to control reality. It is only through the yielding to the strength of
the in-dwelt divine presence [that] the fruits of its spirit begin to show
forth in the human endeavor of this life and the next. There is no space
between this life and the morontia life, it's just that the place is
different but the life is the same, albeit the qualities of life on the
morontia side are tremendously more inspiring.
The necessity to serve mankind exists primarily on this side, so again I
come full circle and tell you it is not important that the left hand knows
what the right hand is doing, it is more important that the left hand work
in synchronistic fashion with the right hand, that they work in harmony
attuned to each other and a greater purpose. Thank you for the question.
Q#3: [Mary] Is it possible Monjoronson, for a human to continue living on in
the flesh after they have fused with their thought Adjuster or is this
impossible?
Monjoronson: It's not necessary to answer a redundant question. Inherent in
the concept of fusion, the human flesh completely dissolves, goes forth in a
burst of light. There is no more human body, therefore it is not necessarily
possible to continue living in the present state. Only by retarding Adjuster
fusion by the asking the Adjuster to allow more time in the flesh for a
specific purpose would it be granted for a person to necessarily delay the
fusion technique. It is not necessary to be confused with the life of the
Creator Son as was lived on your world possessing a thought Adjuster and
upon reaching the point of Adjuster fusion the Creator Son was able to
reveal a greater personal dimension of the Father through the inherent
capacity to fuse with His Father yet the Son and the Father are already one
and what happened with the Adjuster of Michael is that the Adjuster
personalized.
But this is not the avenue for humans, this was an exceptional facet of the
revelation of the Creator Son, thank you for this question.
Q#4: [Mary] Thank you Monjoronson, we have some questions that are a follow
up to an answer you gave in a recent transcript regarding what happens to
children who die and the concept of mercy on the morontia level where
children can be united with their parents at some point. The question is,
when does life begin, life starts at birth right? The personality is formed
after birth, right?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this important question. In considering the
answer to this question one needs to consider the aspects of life in
determining where one is in life. The life of the human tissue that creates
the cellular body begins at conception inside the human embryo. Birth
acknowledges the end of gestation and the beginning of the ability of a
human being to live amongst members of its own kind. Yet from a universe
standpoint, from a spiritual sense, the birth of an individual arrives with
the thought Adjuster. This is when the person is established in the universe
registry.
The thought Adjuster is responsible for delivering the personality traits of
the particular human the thought Adjuster will be indwelling. There is a
difference between the physical life of a human body and the personality
existence within a human soul. In terms of the human body, you have no
choice, it is developed for you but in the development of the personality in
the human soul, this is not developed for you, this is something that each
individual is allowed to acquire on its own through the intellectual
understanding of the greater source and presence of the Divine Monitor and
the personality revelations of this Monitor through the series of human
tests which render the personality sustainable within the human
consciousness and the eternal evolving soul of that human relationship with
its divine in-dwelt presence.
When a baby dies in its human life it is correct that the baby will be
reconstituted to have the ability to grow with its real parents on the
mansions worlds if it is the will of those parents. Depending on when the
child dies, if it dies before the thought Adjuster arrives it will be
necessary for the parents to be present to re-personalize that child and the
thought Adjuster comes to indwell that human being. Yet if the child dies
after the thought Adjuster comes it is not necessary for the parents to be
there for the child to be re-personalized because it is in-dwelt by the
Father and there will be many who will attend to the raising of the child on
the mansion worlds.
It will be their profound duty to do so, yet in considering this second
situation, know that all opportunity will be given for the parents to accept
responsibility to rear this child once they get to the mansion worlds. If
for some reason this is not done in a timely fashion, the child that has
died with an in-dwelt Adjuster will be re-personalized and continue on its
journey through the mansion world in terms of being raised to full and
proper maturity there by caring and loving individuals. Was there another
part to this question?
Q#5: [Mary] There was another question referring to the same transcript. It
quotes the former transcript: "In the case of the unborn or the barely born
who have not had adequate opportunity to develop and form a significant
relationship, they will have the opportunity to try again." Several people
wanted to know who is the "they" that you refer to in that statement because
that implies that there is someone in existence before birth?
Monjoronson: Thank you for your concerns as to the detail of my explanation.
"They", refers to the parents in this case, their ability to try again to
raise and have their child on the mansion worlds and this refers to the
first part of the question which I have already discussed, the difference
between a child passing with or without a thought Adjuster indwelling that
child. In the case of the non-in-dwelt child, the child between birth,
actual human end of gestation birth and the time that it takes for the
thought Adjuster to come, this intervening time, if the baby has passed from
this life, again, the parents will be given another chance to reconnect and
associate with this child to raise it properly to full maturity, and full
maturity in a morontia sense is full spiritual maturity, when the child
reaches the point at which it can survive spiritually.
In that sense the maturity rate is similar to the rate on Urantia which
should be around 16 years of age. I thank you for your concerns to this
question.
Q#6: [Mary] I appreciate your addressing these questions Monjoronson and it
does seem that as human beings we of course have a lot of questions about
life and in particular the concept of personality and if it exists before
this life and that kind of thing and we appreciate it.
Again this is a follow up to a Q/A session we did earlier and I guess they
didn't feel this question was addressed specifically enough so they are
restating their question.
Should the Urantia book be advertised to the public sooner, even now rather
than later?
Monjoronson: Thank you for your concerns and the answer is simply no. It is
not important to mass market the Urantia book; it is important to begin to
grasp a few concepts from the reading of the Urantia book to incorporate a
greater understanding of the thought Adjusters work within the human mind
conscious level of progressive functioning as a unit of a greater
brotherhood. This is important. The needs and wants of an individual, the
desires to solve the worlds problem by turning on the light of truth would
be wonderful if it would only work that way on a planet such as Urantia.
[This?] does talk to the many people who have tried to disseminate the text
to their friends only to find out that there are lots of Urantia books
sitting on shelves, unused, souls unmotivated by the word of truth yet more
graciously accepted by the action of truth. The Urantia book truly is a text
created for a millennium of progressive human evolution. It is not intended
that the Urantia book replace the Bible in terms of quantity, it is intended
that the Urantia book support a certain quality within the human mind which
reflects throughout the human endeavor to become greater in its response to
life within a human society at large.
I would like to say that it would be great to mass market the Urantia book.
You may even try to mass market the Urantia book only to find that in
certain terms, only a small percentage of humans are attracted to this type
of truth and I say type of truth because the Urantia book presents truth as
a transformative .......It is meant to fertilize the mind, it is meant to
help access a greater reality, it is not meant to build more fences and
create more boundaries. In your type of society as America enjoys today,
this is just what mass marketing would do; create more fences and boundaries
between belief systems.
It would be like over-fertilizing a plant. Fertilizer is best when it is
titrated, when it is given out in small doses, that the human becomes
responsive to its effect and its nature and begins to yearn for a greater
revelation within the pages of the Urantia book. But yes, it is important
that those who do read the Urantia book begin to show forth the fruits of
the spirit, that they begin to attract through a fragrant spiritual nature
that others will be prompted to question and seek out the source of anothers
success in spiritual living.
It truly was intended for the Urantia book to be disseminated by word of
mouth, from one person to the next, from one group to the next until it
reaches a threshold. Until it reaches threshold proportions within society
it must evolve on its own and mankind must be led to discover its treasure
one by one. Because some individuals ability to transform the quality of
thought through reading the Urantia book, [it] does not necessarily equate
to others ability to transform their lives as readily with the Urantia book.
It is true from a human perspective that the message of the Urantia book is
for everyone at this time, the actual book is not. So begin to proclaim this
message, this good news that there is a greater reality and meaning to this
life. Begin to show forth the actuality, the fact of the divine Adjuster
indwelling man. This is of greater importance in these times than the
Urantia book, that man begin to display through a tremendously loving nature
the possibility to live life peacefully within conflicting times as exists
now on your world.
Begin to show forth this way of life as you endeavor to help your brothers
and sisters one by one and if there is no more to this question I thank you
for submitting it.
Mary: Thank you for answer Monjoronson, we appreciate you being here, we
appreciate the services of our t/r's in this process each week and we've run
into our time limit here this evening so we will be signing off, thank you
once again.
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