[tmtranscripts] FW: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #21 2008-09-23

[Tom Newbill]

Subject: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #21  2008-09-23

Teacher: Monjoronson

T/R: Henry Zeringue

Moderator: Mary Rogers

Prayer: Good evening Michael of Nebadon, I want to thank you for the human
race, for living your life as Jesus Christ on our world, a world fraught
with the challenge of two spiritual miscarriages. You took twelve simple men
and in a few years transformed their life and created a need on  this planet
to understand a greater way to connect to the God within and to focus our
service to His will. Thank you for the love and compassion which has
continuously been forthcoming to this wild seed of a world, a world run
awry, astray. As a good shepherd we thank you for gathering us together as
the collective brotherhood of man, as part of the greater brotherhood of all
men and personalities which exist in your universe.

Thank you for showing us how to love and respect each other as a means of
true worship, as a means to honor the presence of the God within. Not all of
us have let you down. This evening, in this spiritual circuit of love and
understanding we connect with your energy and the greater energy of the
universe in carrying forth what here tonight will bring us. We ask for
Monjoronson to join us this evening and any celestial presence who is with
us this evening to be with us, to be part of our in-circuitment part of the
group effort. We respect the words of those whom we cannot see yet sense. We
are now ready to begin.

Monjoronson: Good evening, this is Monjoronson. It is indeed good to be here
this evening incircuited here within this group of dedicated men and women
who challenge their own progress and take the liberty to step forward and be
of service. I am ready to begin.

Q #1: [Mary] Good evening Monjoronson, here is a question for you. This
questioner says: I believe I read in the Urantia book the deceased relatives
and friends are not allowed to communicate with people who have not yet
passed over. What is it then that t.v. mediums are communicating with? They
say they are communicating with a persons deceased relatives and they give
the person messages from them. Is it some sort of memory bank they are
tapping into? Can you please explain this.

Monjoronson: Greetings, thank you for this question. In your society there
have for a very long time been those who communicate with the other side.
There have been mediums, sybil's, shamans, astrologers  in every age and
generation who through their sensitivity have fashioned for themselves a
particular format to first comfort those that are here with no leadership,
to try to conduct unfinished business when a person has passed through that
portal of death.

Unfortunately it is not my place to judge or cite sociological references
which are developing in your society in response to the other side. Your own
networks struggle to compete for attention. In some cases there exist a
genuine affection for the nature of those involved in both the asking of
questions and the answering of questions. Again it is like anything else in
your human nature. We can observe human nature because we are not human yet
it is up to you to determine what is real and not real. Part of the
reference we conclude in these series of question and answer sessions
involves mans indwelt presence of a divine Adjuster, someone who is capable
to point the way to you.

>From a spiritual standpoint there is a tremendous amount of activity on
Urantia that has no place within a greater reality. From a spiritual
standpoint one needs to access their own place in a greater sense of
reality, one needs to believe as an individual. It is not important to
question whether a group of people are doing something that you need
celestial approval for, what is important is that you have within yourself a
greater capacity to create a greater reality for yourself as an individual.

No one group has any monopoly on reality and you can tell by looking at a
society by its behavior how many groups within that society do have a sense
of reality on a greater spiritual level. It is very interesting to
completely take a sense of reality, a fleeting moment of eternity and define
it in a language with meanings and use words, words indigenous to some
evolutionary planet and put it in a text, not so, that a person will be
enslaved to the words of the book like carved granite, but like a well of
deep water bubbling forth experiencing each time a drink is taken from that
well how it quenches the thirst, how it soothes your soul, how it helps to
define that greater sense of reality within.

It is not possible to put all that reality encompasses into a mere
accumulation of words, not to diminish the quality of the text. The text is
meant to guide not to confine, restrict and segregate. The text is meant to
unify like water, to bring all souls to the herald call of the Divine Voice
within," be you perfect as I am perfect". You must have living faith, not
stainless steel polished words. The Urantia book is similar to the thought
Adjuster in that it is ever guiding you to experience a greater sense of
reality.

I can tell you for a fact that deceased relatives have not spent enough time
being dead to give you any valuable or qualitative information, especially
deceased relatives of families from this world. Not until the day when these
relatives fuse with their Adjuster and continue their journey as initiate
beings of light will they begin to have any value to report. It should be
obvious through reading the Urantia book that there is information of a
greater importance than wondering how to judge social phenomenon. In a
sense, yet you are asking my consideration for a  human sociological
behavior pattern.

Was it not the original person involved with the Urantia book, Dr. Saddler a
prominent psychiatrist and psychologist in Chicago whose task it was to
discern the difference between mediums, charlatans and a greater sense of
reality? The gentleman had a sense of a greater reality in his eventual
choice to take it upon himself to a greater extent to commandeer the arrival
of these same Urantia papers. From a universe perspective and an eternal
perspective, all things are possible. With the help of the Father, no task
is insurmountable.

It is even possible to bring something unreal into an individuals sense of
reality because of the objective nature of the creative aspect of the human
mind and the indwelt presence. The mind is the only place where reality can
truly be determined and it is only through the avenue of the soul where that
sense of reality can be brought into being for an individual.  I thank you
for this question. Is there a second part to this question?

Q #2: [Mary] Yes, reading and reflecting in light of what you just said from
the same questioner is as follows: Is reincarnation a fact, do our souls
come back over and over utilizing different bodies and different scenarios
until we advance enough to go to the morontia worlds? It makes so much sense
to me in an evolutionary way and could you please explain this as truth or
fiction? Thank you for clarifying both of these questions Monjoronson.

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. In answering this question I need
to distinguish between the organic evolutionary aspect of the soul and the
nature of the soul since at the bottom of your question lies the premise
that it makes sense that a soul evolves until it is ready to go forward to
the mansion worlds, this question states. In the sense, you are correct, the
soul does evolve. It evolves to the point where the human will has proven to
the divine will that it has been willing to serve and be shown what to do
and where to go.

As a personality in a human body, you definitely access this soul on a
greater level. When you arrive here as a human it is always your first life,
as a new soul with a new name, a new personality joined with an eternal
presence. The progress that a soul must endure is progressive, it has a
quality of perfecting itself, albeit what is not perfected on this world
will be perfected in the next world. In that sense you do move forward once
the correct adjustments have been made in a spiritual sense. Once the human
focuses on the complete and final decision to be one with this Adjuster, it
may take many lives on many different spheres of influence.

The seemingly organic and evolutionary nature of the human soul and human
personality has its base roots in the fact that a counterpart to the soul,
the human element does reincarnate. Each generation, each birth that genetic
material is passed on, blended and passed on, blended again and passed on
through countless generations and that accounts for one half of the soul.
The eternal nature of the presence of the thought Adjuster accounts for the
other part of the soul and this relationship between the human will and the
divine plan is the vehicle known as the soul.

It is tremendously easy, seemingly correct to want to refer to the human
counterpart as the soul, that it is organic and through successive lives
repeated on this planet it evolves to a point where it is ready to move
forward. That is a point of view that is not enlightened through revelation,
a point of view enlightened through revelation reveals the divine nature of
the soul, the reality of the soul, how it so developed and what part does it
play in an individuals spiritual progression. The human life was completely
revealed through the nature of your divine Creator Son Michael as He lived
His life as Jesus Christ on your world of Urantia.

He demonstrated in a brief lifetime that a human could achieve the potential
of eternal salvation and after death transform into a different form. It was
the perfect example of a human life lived in conjunction with the divine
mind. Always did Jesus seek the Father as a human being, not as Michael of
Nebadon. Only in revealing the Father and Jesus' capacity to hold the space
of love, to be that love did He reveal the Father to man completely. If the
soul was something that needed to reincarnate on the same planet until it
evolved, that would have been demonstrated
by Michael of Nebadon.

In completing a complete human life and demonstrating the morontia to the
few humans of His influence, mostly to the apostles and their wives, the
women's corp and a few others did He reveal the possibility and create the
way which man can follow to discover that supreme love within. Since Jesus'
time, unfortunately the human race has been tardy in its respect for this
pronouncement of the divine Adjuster within and the possibilities Urantians
would encounter by dedicating their wills to doing the will of the Father.

It is not important to determine that some belief systems are incorrect just
because parts of that belief system do not fit into a greater reality. All
belief systems on Urantia are defined that man access a greater sense of
reality. All Urantia thought forms are not perfect, all Urantia social
organizations are not yet perfected. The human consciousness on Urantia has
not been cleansed of a corrupted default program and what may seemingly take
place as a greater reality on your world here in actuality diminishes to the
greater reality that is present within.

In discerning the truth to my answer seek guidance and advice within. Begin
to experience looking though the eyes of the soul, begin to see the greater
sense of reality which awaits and be prepared to earn it. This greater sense
of reality must be twisted, coerced from the sense of  habit, a sense of
resolution. Access to the greater presence within demands full attention of
ones consciousness, alert sensitivity to the most subtle of influxes. A
greater awareness occurs when the actions of one warrants such awareness.

A greater sense of spiritual reality within the soul is marshaled forth with
the desire to know this aspect of ourselves as a human personality, to
discover the divine presence as a reality, as a guiding force in ones life,
the greater reality which allows for this soul to exist. This relationship
is certainly progressive as it forces man to relinquish his hold on the
previous reality, to grasp and accept the greater reality. The greater
reality does not necessarily conform to ones sense of personal reality, ones
own sense always conforms eventually.

In conclusion to this question and concern about reincarnation, it is truly
genuine to have a greater sense of oneself than one actually is. I thank you
for this question.

[Mary] And we thank you for being here tonight Monjoronson.



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