[tmtranscripts] FW: Lightline Teleconference 2009-04-16

[Tom Newbill]

Subject: Lightline Teleconference  2009-04-16

Teacher: Lantarnek

T/R: Jonathan

Lantarnek: Greetings to you, this is Lantarnek. I have the pleasure of being
with you this evening. You have put many years into your ascension. Although
it is but the beginning of a great and long journey, still it is
recognizable, the effort put forth and the accomplishments made. You have
struggled with awakening your soul on a world that oftentimes does not
promote your pursuit and yet you have grown skillful in making progress even
while the conditions seem to create resistance.

A world such as Urantia, while not ideal in its social structure, religious
institutions or its economic conditions, provides a greater opportunity for
a young soul to develop early on a practical transcendency and a
transcendent practicality. These words I use may be considered a way of
categorizing more commonly understood phrases such as "Wise as serpents and
harmless as doves.-- Being in the world but not of the world." Michael
exemplified this balance while on your planet. He was able to remain loyal
to His pledge to do the Father's will while incarnate here and yet fulfill
the human needs. 

An impractical transcendency causes one to accelerate perhaps a spiritual
vision or to amplify an emotional longing but lose track of its usefulness
in daily life. It is an attempt to move to another level without really
mastering the level which you are on. The longing we Melchizedeks recognize
and honor, for it is the drive which assists your growth, the true growth
comes with a balance to it. Just as a tree reaches to the sky while driving
its roots deep into the ground.

However being solely practical turns the life mundane. Coupling it with
transcendency gives your daily routine a special purpose which may be
likened to a painters canvass or a playwrights stage. After all, to love
your neighbor as yourself, a transcendent value of God's love for everyone,
cannot be lived out without a neighbor and without an interface with that
neighbor. Yet being merely a friend is not the whole spectrum of loving your
neighbor for it will be a transcendent practicality. Be a love that goes the
second mile that carries the pack and not simply as a sacrifice, an
obligation that you put yourself behind or below your fellow, no, it is
because the love drives you. It pours forth with such a force, you seek for
means wherein you may express it fully, not merely adequately, abundantly
rather.

Again I draw from the teachings of our Master Son when He said that when one
prays [lovingly], you give, the Father gives what is the true need. This
ability to weigh the transcendent, that realm of spiritual values which
draws you into the morontia state with the practical, those functions of
daily life which maintain stability bring you comfort and establishes a
fluidity among your fellows; this is the art of living.

While Michael exemplified to His apostles the value of going off alone with
the Father to commune, He also demonstrated a need to be engaged with
others. Spiritual richness is not had through hoarding, there is no bank
account to deposit your spiritual fortunes. This wealth of spirit is only
realized in a constant exchange and trading. And so you may go off to be
alone with the Father and secure a new loan of love. It is of no value if
you do not invest it in your fellows.

And lastly of my comments in this hour, the time you spend perhaps washing
your car or mowing the lawn or doing your laundry or cooking a meal, coupled
with the sense of the presence of God enriches those activities, even
creates the potential for the artistic expression of beauty. And so I
conclude and will open our meeting to questions and comments by repeating a
phrase well known on your world of "Head in the clouds and feet on the
ground." I now will open this forum to others.

Question: Hello, this is **** , thank you for those beautiful words. I was
wondering about life on other planets. I was watching the Star Wars trilogy
series and was visualizing a policy much like that outside of this local
planet here. Is there any kind of truth to those movies, out of curiosity?

Lantarnek: My assessment of those stories is that the human author was
visionary in his creation. He was able to set aside fear which often
accompanies the entertainment of strangers derived from the planetary past
where living in the forests and jungle may require defending yourself from a
fierce enemy. But [in] the vision he held some compatibility between strange
life forms and helped to birth in the mass human consciousness a curiosity
for what is beyond, an interest in exploration toward rather than fear of
being descended upon and taken over.

It is an art form and has the freedom of expression. There are certain
aspects to the variability of life on the worlds that require similarity in
your physical structure for these are shapes of the human form that lend
themselves not only to the advancement of a planet but also contribute to
the growth of the soul. There are some worlds where the conditions require
some deviations from a human form that is conducive in order that that
deviation be likewise beneficial.

You will note in your ascension throughout your local system, variety, but
as you ascend you will begin to recognize that this variety was far more
closer to similarity. It won't be until you enter into the eternal dimension
of Havona that you will be overwhelmed by variety. Life will take on
expressions that were impossible in a time/space framework. Your planet is
progressing to the point where it will be able to fully accept an encounter
with other human life forms that are from other planets. An indicator of
your full preparedness is your ability to love one another of various races.

Until your world loves each other who dwell here and are different, you will
not be able to cope with the variety that comes to you from afar. The
principle is identical, a genuine concern and love and a recognition of
common origin from the Father of all. I mentioned that you have a great
journey in front of you and such stories as you bring up this evening plant
the seeds, they invite your curiosity, they encourage you to discover
dimensions of the universe and they expand your mind to entertain ways in
which God may reveal life that is different from yourselves and yet still
are children of God. I hope this addresses your question.

Comment: Yes it has and I am pleased with the answer, thank you.

Question:  From my understanding, I was taught that we generate our reality,
our surroundings and the events in our lives. Why do things which are so
called negative thoughts manifest faster than the good or positive thoughts?

Lantarnek: I will provide an image that may be the most efficient way to
answer the question and then perhaps speak a little longer. Imagine if you
will, a large block of marble and the time it takes to chisel a wonderful
statue from that block. Yet with the wielding of a large hammer in short
order it can be crumbled in to rocks and gravel. Negative thoughts carry a
power which is abrupt. Positive thoughts are softer but they are ultimately
more powerful for they incorporate that creativity which brings about beauty
and goodness.

There is nothing that one may benefit from with such negativity. What honor
is there to one who would destroy such a work of art? but there is great
esteem to be granted to the one who is able to chisel out that statue.
Because these thoughts from the positive take time to incubate and flourish
it is of great importance to orient yourself in that way. Again, another
illustration; all the advancements made on Urantia prior to Caligastia
siding with the Lucifer Rebellion were lost in a few short years. And yet,
subsequent to this upheaval you have steadily climbed and attained the state
that you are at now. You have persistently advanced towards light and life.

The best defense for the negative is to not allow room for it to be too
flooded with the positive. I trust you are aware that a dark room is no
longer dark when even a simple match is lit, light is. So while you may feel
that the force of negative comes at you harder, sooner or stronger it only
takes a small if even weak positive force to begin toppling and overcoming
that contrary power. I spoke in my lesson of the transcendency and
practicality, the design of life on a world like yours provides conditions
which strengthen you in a spiritual sense, give you spiritual muscles and in
order to be strong you must face contrary forces that you will resist or
overpower.

Remember always that you have a power from on high and that will be the
victor, that these opposing powers are only testers with the ultimate divine
design to strengthen you. Yes there have been episodes on your world where
true evil has made itself known but much of the difficulties you actually
encounter are part of the design of life to temper you, to strengthen you.
No one can climb a mountain if they spend the prior year on the couch, it
takes work before you engage in the work. So see the negatives as resistance
forces for your strengthening rather than for your being overcome. It is the
opportunity to put forth the positive, not a battle against it. Thank you
for asking.

Comment: Thank you for the beautiful answer.

Question: Depending on what I'm doing I have a different perspective on how
the world is progressing.  When I'm focused on reading Urantia material and
other related writing I can see the world is progressing. But when I get
back to the news it seems like there is so much evil dark energy around that
there is no hope. Actually I see the world as having more good people than
bad and maybe it is that not enough good people are fostering progress. From
your perspective, is our world making progress?

Lantarnek: Yes it is and it has accelerated but I might add that there are
transition times that appear chaotic and that short interval seems to be
retrogressive or destructive. Let me offer an analogy. You have a dresser
wherein you store your clothing. With all the drawers shut it looks orderly,
open a few drawers and you see chaos, a disheveled heap. Pull everything
out, sort through them all, suddenly you have a mess. Fold and return them
to the drawers, shut them and it's orderly again. Open the drawer and it is
orderly.

Your world at this point is pulling the clothing out of the drawers and
making those adjustments and in the course of that you will find garments
with holes in them that need to be discarded, you will find objects of great
value that should have been brought to the top. So my friend, maintain that
broad perspective, that long range view of planetary advancement. Trust that
these smaller episodes that appear destructive and resisting are merely
tumbled in the advancement and will in the end actually be a valuable
contribution to the entire civilization realizing the higher values of light
and life.

Lastly, should your sources for observing the way the world is behaving
bring you into a state of shunting your spiritual energy, step away and let
the inner force power you up so that you may in your own walk of life
provide the positive forces which will help move the world forward with your
assistance.

Comment: Well your analogies are beautiful and I thank you for all your
responses.

Lantarnek: If there be no other questions let us close this gathering by
turning our attention to the Master Michael. We thank Him for His love first
and foremost, for it is that love that He has that put these many planets
around these many stars into life whereon the children of God may grow. We
thank Him for His incessant attention to our growth for He did not rest
merely with the establishment of the condition, He has diligently paid
attention to fostering growth at any stage on any planet and in any
individual. I addressed Him as Master but He is not Lord and Master in a
dominating sense. He is the Master of tenderness and genuine care such that
you may be fledgeling, struggling souls and He is there to lift you up. You
may be highly advanced and at the brink of fusion and He is there. Michael,
thank you. We acknowledge you and we receive you.



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