[tmtranscripts] FW: Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #57 2009-07-07

[Tom Newbill]

Subject: Monjoronson.com Q/A session #57  2009-07-07

Teacher: Monjoronson

T/R: Mark Rogers

Moderator: Mary Rogers

Prayer: [Mark] Divine Parents, you know the intentions of our hearts as we
come together once again to find you in this space we create together to
reach out in your direction, to have this space we create with Monjoronson
at this time. We come here once again exercising our faith, trusting in you
and your goodness and your grace. We have been to this well before and we
have tasted the nourishment that you bring and we would return for more, and
we bring our trust and our faith in the knowledge that you will bring more
too. Once again we come to the well. Thank you.

[Mary]: This moment I would offer my prayer for the clarity of connection
that our Divine Parents allow us to have. The three of us here come to the
well with the intention of seeking and finding.

Question #1: [Morontia]

Monjoronson, this questions says that according to the Urantia Book there
are large amphitheaters on the mansion worlds and that these are capable of
accommodating billions of beings and spirit beings. This questioner says
that in order to house all these beings within a designated location on a
mansion world, they conjecture that morontia beings must interact and move
through space in a manner that is different from how we move and interact
with space on Urantia. Would you care to comment on the differences please.

Monjoronson: I am Monjoronson here to welcome your questions. This question
relating to the extrapolation of information provided in the Urantia Book
provides me with an example to use for you ask if this is so, then can that
be so and how is this so and please describe what this is like. You are
resident on this world having an experience in this life. Your personal
spiritual growth is what is of primary importance and you occupy the station
of an agondonter, one who has a unique set of experiences of growing into
spiritual realization in the absence of concrete proof or certainty. This
whole experience hinges on you developing your faith and using this faith to
find your way through the as yet unknown passages of spirit.

So if you are here to grow your soul and develop your faith, how fitting is
it for me to attempt description of episodes beyond this current one you are
engaged in. It is fine to speculate and to dream and to wonder about what is
upcoming in your journey forward but it is distinctly impossible for anyone
to provide you with a highly accurate description of what your experience
will be as you move forward In no small part because you are one of the ones
creating your experience and in large part, in charge of your perceptions
and reactions to your experience. I do not see it as useful to attempt to
follow your thought train and piece together for you some imagery of
something just outside your range of awareness, rather I would have you find
this experience for yourself and not be told how the book ends or the story
unfolds. 

You should be eager to have these experiences for yourself and make these
determinations along the way. While it may be a fond exercise to try to
extrapolate from information given to arenas where no information is
provided and see if this reality continues on into that one. I assure you
there is a continuum but the reality most certainly shifts and any words I
might use in description right now would not be sufficient when you
personally experience a new dimension which must be redefined in terms you
can appreciate at the level of your experience. Thank you for your question.

[Mary]: Thank you for your reply Monjoronson. I know that many of us, when
we read a book like the Urantia Book can't help but have our curiosity
aroused and this beautiful mind that we have been gifted with in this life
can't help but ask questions. But it is true that there is only a certain
amount we're going to get told ahead of time and I appreciate your
perspective that when we actually experience it, we will understand it and
until then it is kind of difficult to understand.

Question #2: [Planetary Model]

At what point does a planetary prince initiate a world government on
Urantia? What would it be like?

Monjoronson: Once again, the curious mind is aroused to speculate what
conditions must be necessary for such a world government to be initiated and
appropriate. You have been told that there are many significant milestones
which must be achieved to bring any planet under one rule and as you witness
there are many stages that must be traversed before this world is close to
aligning itself with a single vibration. That in essence is what you are
referring to, when a planet can come under one vibration of awareness and
understanding and function with the unity and harmony that is present when
all the participants are tuned in to the same wavelengths.

We have miles and miles to go before we are anywhere close to a time when we
will share this common awareness and understanding but we are in a slow
steady march toward that point. You will most likely, from a human
perspective, be disappointed in how long this journey takes but you are not
mindful of how long has already transpired and how long it has already taken
to get to this point. Truly in the scope of the total journey of a world
such as Urantia from its inception to the stages of Light and Life wherein
planetary rule may be completely established, when considered in the scope
of the entire project, we are in fact quite near the end of this journey.
But we talk in two different time frames; universal scale and personal
individual scale. Your life spans are deemed quite short and so in any one
life you can only expect to see a modest shift in the direction of Light and
Life but from our perspective we witness the greater scope of the project
and understand that these are exciting times to be this close to our desired
state. I hope this answer provides you some reference to the question that
you ask.

Question #3: [Competition and Debunking]

Is there competition in daily life on the mansion worlds and if possible can
you give us some examples?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. Once again we find ourselves
extrapolating our human tendencies, that of competition being a normal and
natural human trait and so we project it out ahead to what we have been told
is our next stop or station in the process and we project that we will carry
this trait with us as we migrate along. In fact, you do carry traits with
you as you move through the mansion world experiences. You refer to this
trait as competition and as such it may have negative connotations at times
on such a world as this, the main distinction being that the desire to play
is present everywhere and if the negative elements of competition are
eliminated you are left with joyful play.

You could ask is this the same thing, modified? Yes, perhaps, so is it the
same phenomenon? Yes, and no. Once again we run into the problem of
translation between what you consider what competition to be and how you
look at this phenomenon and how you may approach the same phenomenon with a
different spiritual perspective thereby changing the very nature of it and
yet maintaining the very spirit of it. Thank you.

Question #4: [Melchizedek helpers]

The next questioner states that they understand that Machiventa may
accompany you at the time of your incarnation and they would like to know if
there are any other Melchizedeks who will also be coming with you?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. This questioner fails to discern
that my mission as it is stated is in no way separate or distinct from the
mission we are all engaged in designed by the First Source and Center and
executed by His Son. We all work together in this process. There is not a
one of us who is separate and unto themselves or have a separate objective
or goal or mission. All things work together for the good under one gigantic
plan for the benefit of all forever and always. If you could truly grasp the
significance of this reality, you would immediately realize that there is
nothing out there that isn't part of this grand scheme, that isn't under the
direct supervision and control of Michael and the many others, some who you
know by name and many you do not.

You can assume that all these individuals that you've become aware of are
all part of this movement you refer to as the Correcting Time. Nobody
functions outside of the parameters that are established by Michael and His
jurisdiction. All function with the awareness and approval of Michael in
this process. There are many of us who have our specific assignment and who
have had authority delegated to them for specific purposes and we are ever
sincere in our efforts to execute our assignments and so it may appear at
times as though this personality is in charge of this and another
personality in charge of something altogether different but both are working
together on the grand team. All hands are on deck at all times and nothing
that you can contact will be unattached to this great web that is
established. I hope you can rest more secure in the awareness that this is
so. Thank you.

Question #5: [Can you give more details of the Transition Era?]

What is happening in the world which may weaken powerful nations and force
their withdrawal from their geo-political obligations? Can you provide more
than has already been answered concerning these things?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. Once again it points to the desire
to be told what's around the next bend? What's over the next horizon? What's
the next chapter in this book? This human desire to have a heads up is quite
common because it makes you feel as though you have some control by virtue
of the fact that you have some knowledge. The questions that you ask have
all been well answered. All you need to do is look at your news, be aware of
your surroundings and the answers to your questions are all present. You
have many potential issues for your status quo lifestyle. Your finances will
be a problem, you have global temperature issues, you have fossil fuel
issues, you have basic issues of fairness and equity which run exceedingly
deep, you have food issues arising.

There are many circumstances which are well within your sphere of awareness
that all may come to play in your days, weeks, months and years ahead. But
you fail to grasp that this is not done to you. None of this has been
arranged for you. You are where you are as a result of your choices,
individually and collectively. These choices have brought you the situations
and circumstances that surround you and now it will require of you further
choices and actions for you to make a way through some of these challenges
and turn them into opportunities. These situations are not our doings or the
doings of the Father, they are the result of allowing free will choice to
reign supreme and free will choice is what will be required to solve the
very problems thus created. Therefore I cannot, and would not if I could,
describe in painstaking detail what will happen every step of the way as you
make these choices because you haven't made them yet; they are not matters
of record at this time.

They must be engaged and activated by your choosing and then we will all see
what transpires as a result but you are not the helpless victims at the far
end of the spectrum; you are the ones creating the storm and choosing the
direction of its passing. So when you ask me what is to come? I am amused
and feel I should turn the question around and ask you what is to come?
Because you are the ones with feet on the ground, hands on the steering
wheel and making daily choices which are far more significant in the outcome
of what is to happen than anything we should think or do. This is your world
to decide the answers to all the questions that you ask. Thank you.

Question #6: [Why isn't the veil being lifted?]

This next questioner referred to mankind's struggle with accepting death and
they would like to know, since we have a hard time accepting death, why
isn't the veil being lifted? If our celestial brothers want us to believe in
an afterlife then why not make such a reality evident to all mankind?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. I think I can understand the
frustration which prompts such a question but once again, I must reflect on
the fact that you're asking me to take away the experience of the journey
when you say, "Lift the veil." This entire experience is yours by design and
if, as you say, the "Veil were lifted" this experience would be deprived of
you. There is a plan and it does work quite well. Your fear and apprehension
of death is a personal obstacle which needs to be examined and embraced.
This event of death is nothing more than a transition through a portal into
a greater dimension. It is a joyful experience. It is a release from
unknowing into certainty, it is a transition of grace [which] is made
especially sweet by the experience you are granted just prior to it, of not
knowing, of uncertainty, of doubt, even of fear for these must be wrestled
with in the middle of this doubt and unknowingness.

There is the greatest crucible for the development of your faith. There
conditions are most ripe for you to turn to that part of you which is unseen
and yet which can be felt and provide you with the security that you are
seeking when you're confronted with your fear of ending this life. In fact,
this life is but the springboard for many wonderful lives and while you
don't currently understand this portal of transition, it is not to be feared
for it is natural in its design, as natural as the love and grace that you
feel from those who have given you all life.

While it may be easy for me to say all this, in the final analysis, all
these are just words. They attempt to point to the reality but nothing short
of your own realization and conviction of this truth will bring you the
necessary peace that you seek around this issue of death and feeling as
though it is somehow unjust or unrighteous. I assure you that after you have
passed through this portal, you will reflect on your previous feeling about
death with some shock based upon your understandable lack of awareness as a
mortal of the realm. It is nothing like you think because you have no way of
thinking in terms of how magnificent it is to be re-birthed as a more
spiritual version of yourself, with greater awareness and greater connection
to that eternal aspect of yourself. Trust that this part of the plan is as
well graceful as all the other parts of the plan are. Thank you.

Question #7: [Prayer]

This next questioner says that they don't know how to differentiate a
communication directed to you or to God, to their angel or to their teacher.
It all seems to like prayer to them. They ask if that is a good thing or is
there something they should be doing differently if they want to contact you
directly to offer their services to your mission?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. It is refreshing to receive a
question about personal spiritual growth issues. I welcome your observation
that when engaged in thinking about other personalities and sending good
thoughts and intentions, it all seems to feel like the same thing. It all
seems to feel like a prayer because it is all using the same tone or
wavelength of gratitude, of sincerity, of purity, of love, of peace, of
grace. When you're functioning on this wavelength whether you are
petitioning for insight or anything in particular or whether you are sending
out your good intentions toward another, it all utilizes this same band of
prayerful worship and as such it is not overly important to have great
distinction between your focus and perception of individuals or even times
or places or circumstances.

All these differences are as one when they are brought into this carrier
wave of worship and prayer. Oftentimes you may consider that as your
question infers, its possible to err in such a process but I tell you
plainly that if you are engaged in a prayerful, worshipful state, then your
intentions and sincerity and purpose are being well noted and they are being
distributed as they may be most beneficial. It is possible to bring some
focus to the process and direct your intention towards a specific
individual, a specific circumstance and if enough attention is focused in
that direction, then it is routinely possible to develop a sort of
connection with the individual involved.

So while you may consider it useful at times to bring some focus to the
process and attempt a specific application of this intention, I would also
encourage you that there is no real wrong way to go about it. Everything
from a mindless stillness to a focused intention or connection with another
are all worthy pursuits in the spiritual realm and all are beneficial to
those involved for they bring a dimension of spiritual experience which is
also required throughout this ascension career. Thank you for your question.

Question #8: [About the world teacher]

Is Maitrya a part of the reclamation of Urantia through the Magisterial
Mission or the Correcting Time?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. I perceive an effort to solicit my
contribution to either validate or invalidate a specific individual and I
decline to do so. I would refer you back to my previous answer and turn the
question around. Who present here today on Urantia is not part of the
gigantic movement underway? Are any outside left out of this gigantic plan?
I have said this evening, there are none left outside, there are no
renegades. There are innumerable numbers of approaches that may be used
therefore there are innumerable opportunities, innumerable teachers,
innumerable circumstances, innumerable paths that may be used and all will
be used to the glory of the Father. All will be turned to the good.

Such a question "Is so and so a part?" shows the lack of awareness that we
are all in this together and connected throughout this process. None are
separate and not part of what is going on. I hope this perspective can be
applied across the board to all such questions. It will do you no good to
come to one such as myself to request validation of this or that or the
other thing. If they are present in your experience they are valid and real
to the degree that you embrace them. Truly we are all in this together, you
who are formulating the questions and we who have offered this conduit to be
used to help you with your sincere questions.

It is my hope that this forum will be used to address personal spiritual
growth issues or issues that matter to the spiritual growth because that is
what this classroom is here for, that is what this forum has been opened up
for and we will attempt to foster this arena where we may explore the
spiritual dimension of who you are and your spiritual questions that arise.
Make every attempt to apply your questions to matters of spiritual
significance and concern and not so much curiosity about what is around the
bend? What is in the future? What's just up ahead? How it is when you wake
up on the mansion worlds? How the story ends or the chapter turns? These are
not things which we are prepared to take away from your experience. Many of
these questions will be duly answered in time through experience and serve
no purpose in flipping to the next chapter and seeing how it turns out ahead
of time. 

I hope this may provide some food for thought about the nature and purpose
of questions in this forum. Thank you all for your participation tonight. I
now draw this meeting to a close, farewell.

Mary: Thank you Monjoronson, farewell.






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