[tmtranscripts] FW: LightLine Telecongerence 2009-06-11

[Tom Newbill]

Subject: Lightline Teleconference  2009-06-11

Teacher: Elyon

T/R: Jonathan


*     Elyon  (Jonathan TR):  Greetings to all of you.  You are my fellows,
my friends.  You also are the children of light.  We reside in the family of
God, and we are ever blessed by the grace of God, and it is in this
celestial assurance that we each are motivated to serve this high
personality of the universe whom we call our Father.
      
I am Elyon, I am pleased to be with you.  Today I have the desire to talk
about harmony.  It is a word that describes the natural order throughout
most of the universe, but it has been hard to realize such a state of living
on several worlds including Urantia due to the machinations of the Lucifer
Rebellion.  Such extreme contentions that arose from that time have made it
more difficult for peoples to come together and work with their differences
rather than work against each other.  It is all due to the threat, the sense
of endangerment, that such polarization has occurred, and in this struggle
to maintain an orientation or an identity, there has been lost the
willingness to understand, to embrace.  You see it even in the records of
Michael as he lived on your world, for his devout followers were shocked at
the company he kept, the so-called publicans and sinners, the so-called
prostitutes and drunkards, even the religious authorities.
      
But there is a simple truth that must be realized for there to be harmony in
the world and that is that there can be no one position within the supremacy
of time and space.  There must, by the very condition of the reality of the
Supreme, be two points.  This is exemplified in your revelation of the
tension between the potentials and the actuals resident in deity and its
outworking through time in space.
      
Imagine if you will grasping a baseball bat or a golf club with two right
hands or two left hands.  I believe that intuitively you would feel that you
have not the same strength as a right and a left hand would provide.  These
two hands of similar orientation cannot grasp each other as would one from
the opposite orientation.
      
Likewise you have many compounds on your world that appear to be disparate
as for instance that which makes up your concrete, that which develops into
bread, even that which becomes glue.  These have extremely dry elements and
quite moist elements.  The two in combination bring about a unity which is
more than either one.  This is harmony.
      
One may staunchly believe, be oriented according to their value structure
and represent that system of living, and that is good, for it is better to
live what you believe than merely to believe and passively stand to the
side.  However, in order for Urantia to advance, there must arrive a time
wherein the civilization on your world learns to inter-cooperate, to
recognize the value of the differences, that a balanced scale cannot reach
the center if only one side has weights and the other is empty.  Even your
mystics teach of centering, not tilting to an extreme, but to seek the
middle road, the path down the center.  What will be required is further
diligence in checking the natural tendency of an animal-origin being to feel
fear and to lash out at others who are different.  It is time for the
philosophic minds on your world to create a paradigm and to teach it abroad
wherein you will accept and accommodate one another to recognize ... of your
ideals, ... beneficial to that orientation.
      
There are those on your world who are warlike and those who are pacifists. 
But you know even from our great revelation that if all were to be pacifists
they would summarily be destroyed by the warlike peoples.  But it is also
true the if all the world was warlike no peace would reign at all.  Urantia
is at the point where it needs to develop an integrated system of
accommodation. 
      
You have struggled for several centuries now in the transition from
tribalism to a global family.  In this transitional period there have been
many episodes which sour the beauty of reaching the goal of Light and
Life. Selfishness has poisoned the process as some seek to create a
uniformity by way of a dictatorial totalitarian power structure.  This
behavior sets back the advancement toward the harmony of Light and Life,
wherein trust is coupled with acceptance which is likewise joined with
beneficial compassion for each other.
      
May I look at your sport baseball?  There is a pitcher and there is a
batter.  If the game was composed solely of pitchers there would be no hits,
no runs.  If it was only batters the same result would occur.  You need the
contrast in order for there to be harmony.  But if the batter were to kill
the pitcher or the pitcher likewise the batter, the game crumbles.  This is
what Urantia needs to learn today.
      
I will add one more analogy to my lesson and that is that you are benefited
by having two legs, one that is stable while the other moves.  Then there is
the shift of power to the one who becomes the standing leg while the
opposite moves.  Just as you inhale and exhale this is the nature of the
Supreme in time and space.  As you learn to accommodate this polarity you
will find unity, not a sameness, but a togetherness, and it will be far more
powerful than any oneness, the single identity of everyone being alike.  It
will be difficult, for your history has not taught you that this works. You
have had far too many wars and far too many intrusions of greed which have
disrupted the development.  But I ask you who seek the higher way, who have
been touched by the light, who have tasted the sweetness of God, to stand
for this harmony, this acceptance, the willingness to sit at the well and
talk to a woman, even during a time when a culture was put off by such male
interaction with a stranger who happened to be female.  Be bold as Michael
was bold and stand for the truth that transcends the structures existent
upon your world. 
      
Yes, as I conclude I will also bring up one more point. There are those
among your peoples who are opposed to such as the imbibing of alcohol.  They
devoutly attend the sanctuary of their choice. Yet the very master to whom
they pledge their allegiance turned water into wine.  It was not because he
taught that it was beneficial to engage in the drinking of this beverage. It
was because he recognized harmony, the blending of the desires of many of
his fellows. 
      
It is my greatest joy to receive your questions, and I ask you of them now,
and I am honored if you also bring forth your observations and comments.

Comment:  The use of the word harmony in music: we have two or more notes
that are dissimilar and the end result is something greater than the
components.  We are all familiar with this.  It speaks to the group, not
just two individuals but three or more, to make a chord which is, two parts
form a relationship, three eventuate a system, which is even stronger than a
relationship. 

*     Elyon:  Excellent point, my friend, for if you had two in harmony of a
certain interval and add a third individual, you now have the opportunity to
define that three voice chord as a minor or a major.  A fourth allows you
sevenths.  Then as you have on your world the idiom of jazz, you can add
intervals which were as two together quite discordant but in combinations of
five, six, or seven notes bring about their own beauty.  What was apparently
disruptive becomes tuneful to the ear.
      
Also, may I direct our attention to choirs wherein many voices sing but
there are not enough scales within your musical system to accommodate
everyone having their own independent note.  So you have groups of people
singing the same and other groups singing a harmony.  This is what your
global, political, religious, environmental, and economic systems need to
learn, that it is okay for some to sing together and for others to sing a
different note. 

Comment:  Even when wolves get together and howl they each choose a separate
note, and it forms a disharmony, intense, destructive if you would, yet it
has a beneficial result for the wolves.

*     Elyon:  Let me further indulge in my limited awareness of your
cultural conditions.  You have a flavoring approach called sweet and sour
wherein you combine such apparently dissonant tastes to bring about a
delightful experience.  Perhaps these wolves sweet and sour in their yelps
that they may protect their clan from predators or perhaps to rally one
another to be on the hunt that they may be fed.

Q:  That was what I was trying to say. Perhaps you could speak about the
Urantia quote of harmony being the speech of heaven.

*     Elyon: Subsequent to your attainment of the eternal realm of Havona
--so I am told, for I like you have not reached such heights -- there
develops the compounding expression of personalities. While a single voice
is a joy to be heard from all brothers and sisters, it is the collective
voice which brings about a revelation of a higher level of expression, of
fellowship. On your world, even on my realm which is the realm of the
constellation worlds, we engage in a to and fro form of conversation, one
expresses, one receives.  Then there is response.  I am told that on Havona
there is a simultaneous expression one to another at all times.  This is the
harmonic language which you indicate.  Upon the attainment of Paradise, so I
am
taught, there will be simply knowing of one another; the need to communicate
will cease or, more correctly put, the communication will be instantaneous,
spontaneous, accurate, immediately understood, co-owned even prior to the
expression. 

Q:  On average, how long does it take to go from the mansion worlds to
Havona?  How long in human time?

*     Elyon:  Perhaps I will disappoint you by saying that it is highly
variable, and I use myself as an example, for I am quite prepared to ascend
to the minor sector of our beloved local universe, but I have chosen to
enlist in this Teaching Mission to the fallen worlds in Satania.  I am
particularly active on Urantia, but I am not solely assigned to this
sphere.  So I have put into sabbatical my ascension.  However, each one of
you no doubt understands that such deepening of experience with any given
realm is beneficial to one¹s future ascension experiences.  This is why I
have postponed my transition, that I may further deepen the experiences at
the level upon which I reside at this point.
      
Each one of you is anxious to come into the eternal embrace of the divine
spirit that dwells within you, the fusion experience.  There will be an
eternity that follows such an episode; there is a small window of time that
precedes this event, your dual existence as divine spirit and human
personality.  Cherish this episode for you will not have any opportunity
ever again to experience this state of being.
      
Generally an ascendant being will reach only the local universe level in the
time that one who is enthusiastically charged to attain Paradise would
conceive such an interval of time to be. If I may clarify, as you hope to
reach Havona, as you long to stand on the Eternal Isle of Paradise, you will
only be arriving in Salvington.
      
But I also must address another issue.  As you leave the time/space realms
of the superuniverses, time begins to become hard to measure.  Havona is a
present experience that falters in the measurement of duration.  So, as we
may count the intervals of ascension that take you up to that realm, it is
virtually impossible to describe a measurement to the traversal of Havona,
for it is independent of such conditions.
      
You have opportunities in your ascension to enrich your soul, to expand your
capabilities as a personality.  Some of you will traverse a realm rather
rapidly as you look for those opportunities of expression in another
level. Then you may slow down, where another of your associates may seem to
tarry in realms below your current attainment only to reach your level of
experience and sail on by.  It is an interval of ascension that is of
freewill choice. 
      
You have been taught of the universities of the local universe run by the
Melchizedeks and the higher schools of the superuniverse. But these are not
curriculums that you are forced through.  They are rather more like what you
understand to be independent studies for the enrichment of your own
being. You will attain Paradise; you will attain Havona when you are ready
for the experience.  There are no grades in these universities.  Everyone
receives the high standards as they attain the capability of the next
level.  Fast or slow is irrelevant.  You may be one, my friend, who sets the
record and pursues the realm of Havona faster than any others!  But you may
also be one who sets the record for one who tarries long and sweetly
relishing every step of the way.  I appreciate your curiosity.  You will set
your time as you choose.

Q:  Thank you. 

*     Elyon:  You are welcome.

Q:  By chance, [are members] of the evolutionary family who have attained
Paradise assigned to the Teaching Mission?  Does that occur?  I don¹t want
to question but maybe you can tell me that way. If someone attains Paradise
can he by chance be assigned to the Teaching Mission?  Or is it for mortals
who have not yet attained Paradise?

*     Elyon:  Most of us who are engaged in this Teaching Mission in this
sector of the universe are ascendant beings.  There are a few who are
assisting us who are are Paradise attainers.  There are those, as you now
know, like Monjoronson, who are from Paradise, but largely we are
undertaking a mission that is collective of ascending beings, for it
enriches all of our experience to do so.  Those who have attained Paradise
have fulfilled all of the experiential requirements of the ascension in
Supremacy.  They are teetering on the brink of the next age; they are
perhaps you might say overqualified to be engaged in superuniverse
activities.  They can be sent out to counsel, to exemplify, to reveal.  But
there is no enrichment of their own experience to be had, for all that has
been exhausted.  Many of these beings are engaged in preparatory, if I might
say, classes awaiting the summation of the Supreme experience and the
inauguration of the age of Ultimacy.
      
Each teaching mission, and there are millions of them throughout the seven
superuniverses, are more engagements and enlistments of the local beings
just as I am of the constellation that you Urantia dwellers are also
within.  We benefit from some from afar, but on the whole it is our close
associates that assist each other, for we are far more relevant to one
another than one who has attained the lofty heights of Paradise.  However, I
and many of us relish the assistance of such glorious beings as Michael and
Mother Spirit and the Magisterial Son and even the Melchizedeks who are far
higher in their status than I am, for these beings are able to overlay upon
our efforts a closer pattern of perfection than we may experientially
develop and assist us in reaching such a pattern of perfection.
      
Your question parallels one that I have received often regarding those who
have departed from your world, do they return to make contact with their
loved ones?  If I may use your modern forms of communication, yes, they may
twitter, email, instant message, but they are not upon your world any
longer.  They have relayed through communication services a contact.  But
once they have awakened in the resurrection halls a keen interest develops
in these souls towards the future and their ascension and what lies before
them.  While the love resides within in each of them for all those who are
on the station of life behind, they are now keenly interested in what lies
before them. And such is the case with those who have attained Paradise, who
have completed the evolutionary ascent, they are in a dimensional experience
far above our Teaching Mission endeavors. So we often teach to each of you,
we rely on you to bring about Light and Life on this world.  We do not look
to our higher superior beings to bring it to us.  It is our endeavor; we
must work together, and if I might say, in harmony.

Q:  I thank you for your response, quite revealing.  I¹m curious to have
some peek, or to have a chit chat with a finaliter. Thank you.

*     Elyon:  My beloved brother, I enjoy the sweetness of your
curiosity. Keep up such investigations, for that is the secret to your
ascension.

Q:  What prevents us humans from reaching our maximum potential?  Our
physical abilities, our mental abilities, what prevents us from reaching
those goals?  Lack of drive?  Lack of will?  I am not sure. 
Distractions maybe.

*     Elyon:  You have indicated several good factors to describe such
inabilities, but I may also interject a few conditions that lie beyond your
abilities to alter such as the DNA structures of your physical beings,
benefited or deprived depending on the planet and the success of the
Material Son and Daughter.  There is inherent within the design of physical
life by the Life Carriers certain animal tendencies you will never be able
to shed until you ascend into the realm of the morontia.  These you must
learn to reckon with even as you in your own individual realm of power push
yourself to the limits of your spiritual capacity.  Having attained the
limit of your spiritual capacity even though you long for higher, be assured
of the divine acceptance of the Paradise deities of your attainment, for
they know full well the limitations of the realm which you inhabit.  The
further freedoms will come about in a new dimension.
      
But yes, you must be diligent toward lethargy, complacency, fear,
selfishness, any of these factors which give you either a false sense of
attainment or rob you of the enthusiasm to reach the higher level of being.

Q:  So the old statement that all men are created equal, that¹s not a
factual statement? 

*     Elyon:  All men and women were created equal but all levels of living
experience do not accommodate the unfoldment of the same potentias. 
Therefore each individual ends up with certain limitations that restrict the
unfoldment of themselves until a new realm is attained.  This may seem to
shorten the express-ability of an individual, however, in the larger
perspective across the grand universe, this variability of attainment
enriches the whole.  You might liken it to not everyone can be king; some
must be ordinary folk, so to speak.  Some are the blacksmiths and tailors. 
Some are the farmers and homemakers.  Each one may be an aspiring artist, a
poet.  In the course of ascension all these potentials of every individual
will have opportunity to unfold and be expressed.  So you come equal in your
divinity potential, but each one of you, as Michael talked of the sowing of
the seed, are cast abroad across the grand universe in variable conditions. 
This is not done in scorn of some and in benefit of others.  It is done
because in the long-range unfoldment all these conditions will play out
their beauty and will demonstrate an express-ability of God within the
finite that would not be expressible if all things were uniformly equal. You
have an expression on your world called celebrate your differences.

Q:  There is a term in the text that mind is a temporary intellectual system
loaned to the evolving mortal soul.  Some of us have intellectual systems
that are below average and some are above average.  Depending on how
judicious you are in its use, does that determine the intellect system that
you will be loaned on the next world?

*     Elyon:  There are some conditional qualifications to the form of mind
bestowed in the next level.  However it is more convergent. There is a
broader variability within creatures who also have physical forms because as
you know your mind is linked to a physical organ within your body and must
function within the neural structures which are highly keyed by DNA
structures.  So even a brilliant mind upon faulty cellular structures will
have difficulty functioning.  A mind lesser tuned will function efficiently
in a body of good form.  I might liken it to your computer systems wherein
if that computer does not have the capacity to accommodate an operating
system it will bog down no matter how wonderful the operating system is. 
Yet an operating system of lesser technological development in a faster
system will appear to function far more efficiently.

As you ascend these limiting structures become fewer.  You have read of the
rekeying that occurs many times throughout the morontia experience.  Each
one of these is a tweak closer to the single mindedness of pure spirit.  I
know that every soul that aspires to be at one with God would long for the
mind of a Havona being, but it would not serve you well now.  Each one of us
is learning in this evolutionary experience how to accept our own
limitations as well as how to discover our buried potentials.  If I may
return to the theme of our lesson today, this is the importance of harmony,
for some of your fellows may not have discovered their potential yet.  Do
not become impatient with them.  Allow them the interval of time to
discover.  They will have frailties too just as you do.  We can love one
another and assist one another in growing toward God. I will at this time
draw a close.  Let us look to Michael.
      
Michael, what beautiful children you have here.  I am delighted to spend
this time with them.  I cherish the opportunity. I seek to do you honor and
I also desire that the love you have upon each of these individuals is
further, more deeply recognized and responded to.  I sense their love for
you and I know your love for them.  May we at this moment in time
acknowledge our togetherness. Thank you.

TR090611                              Hayden, Idaho           
                                   


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