[tmtranscripts] Monjoronson - Thought Adjusters - Murder - A New Church or Temple - May 18, 2010 - Audio Session #101 Final
Tom Newbill
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Wed May 26 20:49:04 PDT 2010
Monjoronson - Thought Adjusters - Murder - A New Church or Temple - May 18,
2010 - Audio Session #101 Final
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T/R: Henry Zeringue
Moderator: Philip
May 18, 2010
Session #101 Concludes The Audio Series from Monjoronson.com
Subjects Discussed This Session
1 - Thought Adjusters
2 - Murder
3 - Technological Impact on Health
4 - How Does One Spirit Person ³Enshroud² Another?
5 - A New Church or a New Way of Life?
Prayer: Gentle Father and Mother, Divine Parents, embrace us in the warmth
comfort and gentleness of this connection with spirit, with proper
intention, human purpose, to understand the spiritual and divine nature of
our human selves. Bring us now into the moment of contact once again this
evening and bring forth another human endeavor to understand spirit, to
allow spirit to understand ourselves through our questions and through our
answers. Give spirit a chance to interact on our behalf, to guide us as a
living principle of faith and trust. We ask for all available presences to
support. We present equal opportunity to all presences, especially the
presence of Monjoronson this evening.
Monjoronson: Greetings this evening, this is Monjoronson again returning to
the customary question and answer formatted session. This evening, in all of
these questions and answers, know that most important aspect of your
spiritual dependency of your mind is to connect with the Indwelling Spirit.
Begin to trust the understanding of your Indwelling Spirit and your own
consciousness. Begin to understand that the Indwelling Spirit works as
simply as a thought coming into your mind. This is why it is called the
Thought Adjuster, since at that level the Thought Adjuster can actually
manipulate what comes into your mind. Become observant, become
communicative, become trusting, forever remain loyal. Thank you this
evening, we are ready to begin.
Thought Adjusters
Question #1: Does each Thought Adjuster have a given name or number that
indwells the humans of Urantia? If so, does this change upon fusion?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this interesting and amusing question. It would
seem from observation, of the little that is known in the spiritual realm
about the Thought Adjuster, that most information has to be discerned
through human behavior and human effort and what is perceived as an Adjuster
motivated life or consequence. In this respect, Adjusters are not known by
name or number, they are known by the indwelt person. This is how the
universe knows about them and upon fusion, the Adjuster relinquishes that
part of Its nature to become a greater part of the human nature accepting
the qualifications, the name as the human is known, so is the Adjuster
known. Thank you for this question.
Question #2: This person has connected with one that feels like a cold
black void. They did nothing offensive and seem completely normal but he
sensed there was something not right, so much so that they were near
hysterics. They wonder whether this is a personal trait of theirs or could
this be their Thought Adjusters recognition of a barren person or a person
that no longer has a Thought Adjuster?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. In answering your question be
aware that it is tremendously difficult to state a circumstance
intellectually without having access to a more personally observant
recognition of behavior patterns, meaning it is tremendously difficult to
say what is causing the void. Sometimes an avoidance by a person may be
nothing more than the person not wanting to directly associate with another
so that person cuts off an energy, or that person does not project anything
towards the inquiring one. It could also be what he/she is doing that
either they are completely aloof, or they are intensely involved in their
own sphere of influence as not to project any energy from themselves towards
others.
The projection of energy which is what you are talking about, not perceiving
an energetic response from the person, usually has to do with a mental
display of activity, recognition, acknowledgement, on their level. It is
very different, lets say, on wanting to contact someone to think about them
in a certain light. Sometimes, all of a sudden, you may see them or hear
them in a mental telepathy response because energetically you are sending
forth to that particular person, a particular energy signature. Not
receiving something from a person and then feeling devoid of any response
means that the person may be going through a tremendous period of depression
which has nothing to do with Thought Adjuster activities. The quality with
which humans receive and perceive others is unquestionably of a reciprocal
nature. There are certain people, especially people of the opposite sex, who
meet and the energetic response is a chemistry that matches and blends and
creates a sensation within the consciousness.
Also, check your motives. If you are anticipating, assuming, or expecting
something from another person and are not receiving it, then you need to
question what your motives [are.] I am not saying this is the case but I
don't have access to either mind so from what you are saying externally,
again as stated before, it would be tremendously difficult to particularly
qualify the nature of such behavior. Thank you for this question.
Question #3: This individual has pre-birth memories that are not theirs but
are perhaps of his Thought Adjuster. Does he have these memories because his
Thought Adjuster chose to show him or are these arbitrary 'spill-overs'
because they are consciously working together?
Monjoronson: Thank you again for this question. It is tremendously difficult
to qualify personal experience on a third person basis unbeknownst to you. I
do not have the access and privilege of human minds on a general basis. To
qualify something of a personal experience has to be qualified on a personal
level. Do the homework. If it is Adjuster associated, ask the Adjuster. The
Adjuster will qualify this to you if you need to know. It is an extremely
personal thing. A lot of times the reason the Adjuster will show something
to you, it is for your eyes only. The Adjuster is not showing that
particular thing to someone else, they are showing it to you because it
something that you need to see to move in the direction in which the
Adjuster has outlined for you to move into.
Be careful in seeking third person references to qualify personal
experience. Someone cannot explain God to you. They can talk about their
experiences with God, they can talk about their assumptions or what they
know to be true about God, but until you truly experience a revelation
within your own consciousness which reveals God to you against all doubt,
only then will you truly know the rewarding qualities which now resides
within your consciousness. This knowing and understanding actually and
literally shifts your consciousness. The perspective all of a sudden has
been grounded in truth and reality and one really knows beyond any doubt of
the veracity which they have discovered within themselves.
This is true of all personal experience. Always, be not afraid to approach
the Father, be not afraid to meticulously ask the Father your true desires
and concerns about understanding wisdom and knowledge, about what you are
experiencing. Know first hand what this is about. Find the confidence
within yourself to discover these things. Do not rely on a third person
qualification on a purely personal matter. All activities of consciousness
are answerable to the Thought Adjuster, ALL. Even the static thoughts, the
perverse thoughts, the bad thoughts, the inappropriate thoughts, eventually
are all responsive to the Thought Adjuster and their activity moved on by
the Thought Adjuster's ability to image within your consciousness, a greater
reality than the one you are experiencing.
Again, do not just pick the can of beans off of the shelf, then open it up
with a can opener, and then heat it up and be satisfied. Look to the joy and
integrity that involves soaking dry beans, cleaning them, overnight letting
them get large, heating them up slowly, seasoning them, simmering their
taste. Learn to develop a certainty within oneself and you will begin to
understand on a greater level beyond any doubt, the level of reality and
awareness which will relate to your present condition. Thank you for this
question.
Question #4: Is there a way to tap into the Thought Adjuster recording of
our life events so that we can see these events from the Thought Adjuster's
point of view like a coach reviews game footage with his team?
Monjoronson: Unlike the game footage a coach reviews with his team, the
Thought Adjuster is interactive. You can stop the tape and interact with the
Thought Adjuster at any moment within the tape which you could not do if the
coach was playing it. The ability to become interactive with the Thought
Adjuster allows for a greater understanding with the individual who is able
to ask the right questions to the Thought Adjuster. If you are just asking
the Thought Adjuster for more food, more pleasure, a nicer car, more money,
you may get those things but if you begin to ask for a greater understanding
of the inner workings of the Thought Adjuster, of why certain images are
presented to a human, of why the human may be led to do multiple things,
things that the human particularly does not want to do, ask what is there in
this task that one must learn? What is the lesson here?
On any level, a human working with the Thought Adjuster will be working with
lessons. The Thought Adjuster sets up these lessons within the human
consciousness and within the productivity of human life, of human
association and interaction on a socially human level. [In] all of these
interactions a person has to synchronize both with the will of the Father
which is on an individual level, and the will of the Father that exists on a
social level, on a multiple human level.
The dynamic tremendously shifts when many people are involved than when it
is only one individual. So what you ask for certainly the Thought Adjuster
has a program which can be tapped into. The way that the program is tapped
into is into the integral moment of things while you are in the thrust of a
challenging situation in life, when you are in the midst of life's lessons,
while you are maneuvering the boat through the torrential storm you may have
to make adjustments. It is in the ability to make adjustments and make the
correct choices in these adjustments that you can navigate through any
situation.
Begin to learn guidance, begin to learn aspects which the Thought Adjuster
brings to your consciousness and understanding. Understanding the Thought
Adjuster is not a difficult task but the task is made the more challenging
on a world where one has to exercise faith and trust and understanding, or
when it is not necessarily the protocol for life on this planet. So because
it is not a focus of education and training, it is virgin territory, it is
open. Explore, explore to the depths, because the relationship of man and
the Thought Adjuster is the last great frontier you will encounter before
you leave this planet. It is the responsibility of each and every one of you
to begin to ask the correct questions of the Thought Adjuster and to begin
to learn, to comprehend when and how the Thought Adjuster will answer or
show you the answer or the concern which you seek.
Working with the Thought Adjuster is like putting an edge on a knife. To get
the knife real sharp so that it will cut, it must be honed against something
that is equally as hard so that it is actually abrasive and cuts into the
existing metal and shapes it. The blade is honed to an edge. The Adjuster
hones the human into a humble nature into a supple malleable substance so
that you consciously choose to become clay or wax, something soft that can
bend, that can adjust to any difficult situation, that can move through the
immovable parts of life. A long time ago when the chemists on your world
were searching for the 'alchemist stone,' for the substance and technique
which would turn simple material into something precious, adding the
'alchemist stone' whould change lead to gold. This is a metaphor for the
Thought Adjuster. The Thought Adjuster is the only way for a human to
transmute and transform.
The human is the only animal on the planet which is capable of becoming
something different in a single lifetime. All other animals without Thought
Adjusters are just animals. They will always reproduce and be the same. You
say yes, humans reproduce and they're always the same, and this certainly
would be true. Yet within the length and breadth of a human lifetime, a
human can change his fate, and he can become the understanding and have the
personal inter-workings of the Thought Adjuster. This will change his life
and help bring his or herself in line with the will of the Father. You need
to understand the Father, for He can both work on the planet through human
endeavor as well as transform the human material into a divine substance.
Again, thank you this evening for this question.
Murder
Question #5: Aside from our laws which define murder, does the universe
differentiate what constitutes murder and degrees of murder also?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. One of the most confounding
conditions and situations of the human race as observed by spirit
personalities and [the] spirit world is that humans have a tremendously
difficult time understanding their behavior. Murder is an aspect of human
behavior which a human knowingly takes the life of another human usually for
a personal motive or sense, because if a human were protecting his life
against the actions of another it would be called self defense and not
murder.
These human endeavors are tremendously difficult to align themselves within
human consciousness and human social mores, especially in a society which
may be pretending to evolve in a more spiritual harmony. As society
develops, mans behavior and social nature begins to develop. It is
unfortunate to live in times in which people seem to be unaccountable for
themselves. Peoples seem to not want to accept consequences of their actions
or accept the responsibility for their actions.
Spirit does not necessarily judge what humans do with behavior. What spirit
discerns is that when humans have a tremendously difficult time adjusting
their behavior to a certain quality of consciousness. There may be remorse
or guilt felt about a purely animal nature which then tends to shut down
certain parts within the human consciousness. When that happens, it doe not
allow for a complete integration of understanding which would move the human
past the consciousness of an inappropriate behavior. Obviously the
murderous behavior is working on the human in a certain way to come to some
resolution. In normal situations, the resolution is to move past the
behavior by beginning to exhibit and adopt a different behavioral operation
plan. Usually removing the tendency toward violence involves a complete
philosophical makeover and a spiritual awakening, a born again
understanding, a rebirth within oneself.
To understand these things is to understand on a larger level that people
move together within large groups. Even on the mansion worlds, before people
can move forward into greater spiritual position and greater spiritual
places, people have to attain a consistency of spirituality on a social
level by learning to work together. Eventually it will be understood that to
move forward in a greater spiritual capacity together, some of the behavior
patterns will have to be modified and adjusted. It is hard to move into a
greater spiritual awareness socially while there is lying, theft, murder,
sexual abuse, physical and verbal assault going on within the society.
Human consciousness evolves slowly. The greater indulgence of a society such
as yours, bears the responsibility of a tremendous burden placed upon itself
to change its nonproductive behavior patterns. In this respect, your
question is part of a larger human spiritual paradigm about reality: What is
important? How do we slowly evolve the human social consciousness through
individual effort and identity with spirit? It is not important what spirit
thinks about any human behavior. What is important is how can humans feel
wholesome and good about their behavior? How do they begin to share that
wholesome and good feeling with other wholesome and good people? Again,
thank you for this question.
Question #6: How is one who has murdered on Urantia, adjusted or corrected
on the mansion worlds to be able to ascend?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this questioning. Human behavior patterns are
resolved on the mansion worlds in many different ways. For example, it may
be important for some people once reaching the mansion worlds, if they have
reached a certain spiritual capacity, to go back to the individuals who have
made it over to the other side that they may have had conflict with. If
need be, they may be gtiven time to go through a resolution period with
these individuals. Those that have not achieved a greater spiritual
consciousness then must be detained on the detention part of the sphere.
There, such an ascender will, again, be amidst others who are also suffering
the same consequence.
All forward progression has to do with human endeavor. Spirit is allowed to
guide, spirit is allowed to present options, but all endeavor is human even
on the mansion worlds. All endeavor must be human. Anything having to do
with human spiritual progression is a purely human.
Spirit is not allowed to do anything in place of what you have to do.
Spirit is allowed to show if it is asked. Spirit is allowed to present
options, and is allowed to present multiple techniques which may be
available to do something, but the effort to move forward is a purely human
requirement. This is trued whether one is on the original planet of birth
as it is now or later on elsewhere. It makes no difference.
If human behavior on the birth planet has to be worked out on the morontia
worlds, it remains the humans responsibility to make good on all accounts.
Many times it is within the human¹s consciousness to place certain facets of
his past behavior in perspective for resolution..
It will be evident and known if this is meant to be done. If the human does
not care and does not change, even on the mansion worlds, he is left to work
it out. Nothing is ever done to coerce, trick, or fool the human on the
mansion worlds. Remember that death is just a doorway, and that many times
things are more difficult of resolution on the mansion worlds than they are
on the world in which you presently live. Unfortunately you do not live on
an advanced stage of life on Urantia. What is not finished on the world
which you presently live on must be dealt with on the mansion worlds.
Many times it seems like humans find it overwhelming with their behavioral
consequences in their , because they block them out as if they never did
happen. It becomes tremendously difficult when this happens, to own up to
behavior, to begin to seek some resolution. Many times it is not possible to
change what man has done or what humans do. It is only possible to change
how to do them so that one does not repeat mistakes. Sooner or later one has
to come to a greater understanding of meaning and purpose and values no
matter what they have done. Remember, as Jesus said: "I come for the sinner,
not for the righteous. I come for those who are at fault, who are conflicted
in consciousness, that they may begin to forgive themselves and understand
and move forward."
So many human efforts involve human emotions. Humans are more ready to hold
on to the emotion of guilt rather than the emotion of forgiveness. This is
something which must be trained within human consciousness, the spiritual
equivalent of forgiveness, the human emotion of forgiveness, the forgiveness
of oneself. Then at some point, make some recompense, some worthiness to
turn the action into a positive. This must be done through human effort.
What man has to begin to learn is not that what he did was wrong but that
what he did is something which should not be followed as an example, and
should not become a motivation for ones life. What is important in a
spiritual sense is not the inappropriateness of human behavior, but the
appropriateness of human consciousness to evolve into a spiritual
understanding of meaning and purpose and value. Such a conceptual grasp
elevates the human from having a mere emotional reaction into a thought out
understanding and a level of consciousness so that the person is completely
in control of their behavior.
Stumbling is not important to God but that you get up and run. Yes, the
details of man¹s life becomes messy with inappropriate behavior. The history
of your human race is drenched in inappropriate human behavior yet human
enterprise and human life goes on and constantly is the spirit moving man
forward within a current. Again, thank you for this question.
Question #7: On more advanced worlds, is it possible to determine who has
lost a Thought Adjuster and would there be any repercussions because they
had come to know this?
Monjoronson: This is only something that can be answered by a person having
access to an advanced world life; when you get to an advanced world, your
level of understanding would include such matters, when you yourself had
evolved to the level of an advanced world citizen. Always remember, that it
is not so important to have something defined for you. It is much more
appropriate to seek a personal definition what you think or decide! You
are indwelt with an unmistakeable essence which has the ability to help
increase your understanding of anything on any level and of any topic. If
there is a tremendous time lag in getting Adjuster response, it may be
necessary to move closer to the Adjuster in a spiritual sense. That way the
delay is not so great in understanding. Again, it is more appropriate to
meditate on how to bring your own current civilization into an advanced
world status. Again, thank you for this question.
Technological Impact on Health
Question #8: The new Hadron Collider near Geneva, where it spans the border
between Switzerland and France, does this experiment have the potential to
make energy discoveries which could be [as] devastating as finding how to
split the atom and the resulting nuclear bombs we have now?
Monjoronson: In answering this question briefly, it becomes important to
understand that it is not the discovery of things which creates their use,
it is mans agenda with discoveries of things which creates the potential for
something to be harmless, hazardous, or more productive rather than
counterproductive. This has to do with mans own personal agenda, not the
discovery of something. The discovery of anything great on this planet has
always been mis-appropriated and mal-appropriated to personal agenda. Begin
to understand that all consequences are a result of how you think because
how you think dictates how you act or how you react, therefore dictates the
consequences of your actions.
The only way to correctly move forward is to allow for a greater
understanding within the evolution of social consciousness which sees how to
use something for the benefit of mankind rather than the benefit of a small
group of individuals. That is the difference between the religion of the
brotherhood of men and women versus the life of tragic human consequences.
Again, thank you for this question.
Question #9: The emission of energy from our many communication devices seem
to be multiplying to the extent that a lot of their radiation could cause
serious energy to the human body. Have you any comments on their danger and
maybe how to reduce the threat and still use them?
Monjoronson: No, I have no comment. Thank you.
How Does One Spirit Person "Enshroud" Another?
Question #10: The Urantia Book speaks of the existential Deities and how one
person of Deity enshrouds the other. What does it mean to be enshrouded? It
put a picture in my mind of something or someone being veiled. They are
veiled from our senses or our perspectives. Why wouldn't our Infinite Father
be the One that is enshrouding the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit?
Monjoronson: Well, humans must have multiple perspectives of things in
order to establish a perspective and a dimension of understanding. One human
cannot have a complete understanding of any activities of an existential
level. Even spirit personalities on a local universe level don't even
pretend to have an understanding of existential spirit. Trust that as you
grow a greater spiritual awareness that these uncertainties will begin to
unfold themselves on a need to understand basis. It is like certain soils
will only bring out certain qualities in the plant. If you desire greater
qualities you have to use a richer soil. Thank you for this question.
New Church or a New Way of Life
Question #11: Many wish to establish a new church based on the Urantia Book.
Many of us feel there is a danger to make the same mistake of establishing a
church again and do not want to see a church come into being. Are there any
rights or wrongs here? Do churches evolve into something else such as the
Father's Temple as described in the Garden of Adam and Eve?
Monjoronson: You're asking several things. To answer one particular part of
your question, no, religions and churches do not evolve into the Father's
Temple. No activity takes place into the Father's Temple. It is a place of
no activity, it is just a presence. It is necessary for man to determine
what man wants to do. As long as you are humans on this planet you will be
involved with human misunderstandings, human conflicts, misunderstood
communications etc. It doesn't matter what belief system you adopt, it
doesn't matter what church you have, what religion you choose. The only
religion you need is the brotherhood of man and woman, understanding the
love and the will of the Father. Until religion gets to that level of
understanding, comprehension, and the ability to act in that capacity,
everything else will fall short. It is unfortunate but it is true. Do not
think otherwise. Thank you for this question.
Philip: Thank you Monjoronson for your gentle and insightful responses. As
is our custom here, [if there] any further comments you would care to make
on any subject, please do so.
Monjoronson: There is no further comment this evening. Thank you.
Philip: Thank you, that concludes our session for tonight and we'd like to
thank all those involved in this team effort, good evening.
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