[tmtranscripts] Mother Spirit Lightline Complete 2.25.16
Jerry Lane
nytrayn at msn.com
Thu Mar 10 09:51:03 PST 2016
Ho!--here we go again, this time with the complete Lightline teleconference with Mother Spirit on the 25th of February, 2016. Please excuse the overly-wildly spaced lines as I'm not sure why this happens, or how to prevent it. It's why I send both a text and attachment of the lesson. Enjoy!--Jerry.
Mother Spirit
Lightline - February 25, 2016.
Nebadonia—T/R-JL
(Companionship-sharing
your lives)
(Escaping
the prison of self)
(The
blessing of curiosity)
(The
mind-spirit of courage))
(Courage
to welcome the unknown)
(Courage
contra-distinct from fool-hardiness)
(Foolish
impatience)
(Intuition,
knowledge, understanding)
(Where
courage leads)
(Trust,
faith, and spontaneity)
(Respecting
a child’s spirit and autonomy)
Dear Mother Spirit and Michael, welcome. Welcome.
Come and be with us, although
we know deep in our hearts--as we open our
hearts and minds to you--that you are
always already here. Your presence is within
us and all around us.
Still and all, we do admit to ourselves that
your very nature is nigh incomprehensible in
spite of all the ways that the human race
has personified you, in all the goddesses of
all the religions and cultures of the world.
This is why we are very thankful for our
wonderful Urantia Book with its whole
chapters on you and Michael, giving us all of
your attributes.
Yet you are still nigh incomprehensible! We
can only imagine what it is having a
soul of experience of hundreds of billions
of years now, so many times more than what
our science tells us is the age of the
universe. We can only imagine what it is to be
spread out over so many thousands of cubic light
years of space, attending to your
children on nearly four million inhabited
worlds like ours--plus on all the architectural
spheres of our local universe.
You have invited us so often to go out on a
clear, star-lit night when there is no moon
to out-shine all the little ones, just see
and open our minds and hearts to the Milky Way
out there in the whole sky. We can imagine
you spread out across all of that. Then
to think you are right within us, part of
us, part of our minds, part of our own creative
spirit.
So, dear personal being who is on the very
edge and beyond of our comprehension,
we do sincerely appreciate that you can talk
to us. You delight in transmitting to us,
and you have let us know so many times that
any of us—not just me and other
Transmitter-Receivers--but any of us with a
mind to do it, can receive you. Anyone can
open their little recorder and record what
you have to say. In this too you are truly
universal. For all of this we do thank you.
Amen.
Nebadonia: Good evening, my children. This
is your Mother Spirit, and I thank you for
your kind and generous invitation. As
Michael and I have taught so often, it is a good
thing for you to be humble, for it is a
spiritual blessing to acknowledge that which is so
much greater than yourselves. It helps you
keep in touch with us, for Michael and I, like
any proud parents, delight when you address
yourselves to us and say hello. We really
enjoy that, so again, this is an open invitation
that just anytime, anytime it occurs
to you, day or night, we appreciate it when
you set aside a few minutes in your busy
lives to be quiet, and still, and say, “Hello
Michael. Hello Mother Spirit. Thank you
for me.”
(Companionship-sharing your lives)
Tonight I would like to talk about a few of
your attributes, a few of your dimensions
of being human. I think the greatest of
these is the way you are so much like our
universal Father, like God himself. It is
the way you can share your lives with others. It
is called companionship--your ability and
desire to have companions with whom to
share your days and your nights. This is
part of God’s great nature, this whole notion
of sharing oneself, or none of us would
exist. We can know that each of us shares a
little spark of his infinity.
As you have been told, and it is so true,
that your very personality, your
uniqueness coming right from him--as does
Michael’s and mine--cannot in any way
be finally or ultimately captured. In this
we are most like him, and we belong not only
to ourselves, but to him as well. We share our
inner lives with him.
Then you can choose to share your lives with
the others around you. This is that
magical one-and-one-makes-three because, first,
you have your unique personality like
no other. Second, your companion is like you
in this, in that he or she too is utterly
unique among all other people. When the two
of you get together, you both share
another third dimension that is equally
unique to just the two of you.
This is companionship--this friendship, this
shared soulful quality, because you are now
in each other forever. Your souls are as
open to yourselves and to each other as you
acquire the ability to tune in--tune into
yourself and tune in to each other. You can
share your histories, your actual living
experience.
(Escaping the prison of self)
True companionship gives you so much. Above
all it gives you a way of escaping what
we sometimes call the prison of self.
I am sure you all know some poor, unfortunate
soul who is so self-centered, so totally
insecure in themselves and in their life, they are
desperately clinging on to themselves and
can hardly be companionable at all. You try
to carry on a conversation with them and all
they are doing is waiting for you to
be quiet so they can express themselves. No
matter what you say to them, if it
doesn’t directly relate to them in some way
or another, it is meaningless to them.
By their example you can know in your own
self, in your own soul, what a terrible
prison this is. Your own companionship and
your own delight in sharing yourself and
enjoying other folks can be the most
precious experiences of your life. Because if you
can let go, if you do have the wonderful
quality of self-forgetfulness, you can take in
another totally. Then if they too have this
wonderful quality of self-forgetfulness, this
third dimension of the-two-of-you, the
companionship, becomes a very lively dance all
by itself, does it not? Who knows where it
will go? Who knows what it can encompass?-
-because you are both bringing your own
unfathomable souls to the present moment.
For remember: you are both somewhat infinite
to yourselves. This is the state of
your existence, my children: you can only know
your own souls kind-of moment-by-
moment. You await that magical
transformation, sometime in the future, you will have
that promised moment of becoming one with
your own soul and the presence of its co-
author, God himself. This will be the fusion
of all that you are and have been, wrapped
up in this unfathomable soul of yours.
But until that transformation, what a wonderful
thing to let your soul come forth
and remind you of all you’ve been. This humility
of realizing all that you are and
have been gives you the ability to
acknowledge all that your companion is too.
This is the promise and the actual reward of
companionship, of having real, honest-to-
God, living and breathing companions with
whom to share your life.
(The blessing of curiosity)
All this comes about with the help of
another great quality I’d like to talk about
tonight, and that is curiosity. Let’s pause a moment to wonder: what is it? (I must
confess I am teasing you with the very thing)
What is curiosity? What is it that
catches your attention, sometimes even in
spite of yourself--especially when you
were younger and didn’t have that much
control over yourself. What is it that captures
you and says, “Look here! What is this?”
It could be whole world all around you,
strange and new and maybe even a little scary.
Think of your delightful little furry creatures
and the nursery-rhyme notation that
curiosity kills the cat. Of course as you
grow older, you realize that curiosity is just part
of their nature to examine everything,
though perhaps the more cynical among you
would say that it is just their hunting
instinct, looking for some other little furry thing to
pounce on and eat. Or maybe you have seen
cats prowling around and standing up to
look out the windows like some nervous gun-fighter,
wondering about some bigger cat
that might eat them.
But in human beings, curiosity is an innate soul-hunger
to know what is out there. What
is all around you? Even at a very young age
it includes wondering: what am I? What
are these little wiggling things on the end
of my arms; then exploring and finding
you have hands and feet and even a stomach
that gets hungry. All this curiosity leads
you to discover everything you know,
everything you contact to understand.
It is a wonderful hunger because it can be
satiated. It can be fulfilled. It can lead you to
a kind of ease for a while as you sit there
with all you have come into contact, and
know, and understand. You can let it all go
in a good-night’s sleep and even dream of
it all in all its mystery.
Curiosity led you to the others all around
you. As you let go of your family, your
mother and father, and maybe brothers and sisters,
and headed out there to school—
your first, second, and third grade, your
class room; remember all the others you met
your own age, and the curiosity. Who were
they? What was this sex thing? What
were boys? What were girls? Why were you and
they the way you were?
What a wonderful blessing curiosity is. And
what a terrible tragedy it is with those who
feel they are cursed with curiosity, that
some way or another they have to numb out
to shut it off. They just want to close in
upon themselves and not be curious about
others because, perhaps, they never acquired
the social skills to satisfy, to share
in joy with others and satisfy their curiosity.
So think of the satisfaction, my dear ones,
that has led you to know so much.
(The mind-spirit of courage))
I would like to mention one other attribute
that I actually help increase right within
you. If you will, I augment another real
ability of yours. As I mentioned companionship-
-what your Urantia Book calls my Mind/Spirit
of Counsel—helping you enjoy each other
as you counsel together and share your
experience—this is the mind/creative spirit
quality of courage.
What is courage? If new experience it is one
of the most crucial, welcome, and
valuable of attributes, the ability that
enables you to do difficult things is itself so
precious. Seen in this light, you can never
have too much of it--not the real stuff.
Instead you might have a kind of fake
courage you call fool-hardiness, a lack of
acknowledgement and respect for the
situation where you just charge blindly into
something, and perhaps get wiped out for
that very reason.
Genuine courage is not being fool-hardy. It
is exactly the opposite. It means with all
the fear and trembling that fills your soul,
your mind, your spirit, even your whole body,
you are still able to act. You still to have
the determination to do the right thing.
Think how this necessary attribute feeds and
supports your curiosity, to not only be
curious, but to have the courage to explore
it. For that exploration can extend to all the
aspects of you. Physical courage is needed to
get out there and do whatever it is,
perhaps even risk your life and limb--as you
say.
Then to follow your curiosity about “what
if…” or “wouldn’t it be nice to…”—you can fill
in the blank—it takes mental courage to be
open-minded and not just cling to what you
have already known and experienced, but to
let all that go, put it all on the line because
something new suggests itself. Or you are
simply in an honest experiment and you
have to find the courage to be open-minded
to whatever comes out.
(Courage to welcome the unknown)
Some of your famous scientists have said
that they suddenly encountered some new
fact that challenged everything they
believed up to that point. They had to have the
courage to let all that investment in time
and energy go in order to follow this new
thing that appeared to be negating
everything they had known up to that point, and
simply, but profoundly, step off into the
unknown. So this is another dimension of mine
that I share with you, this thing of
courage, of determination, of the ability to do what
your heart, your mind, and your soul
suggests.
Now, my dear ones, if you have any questions
or comments on these attributes of
being human, or anything else, let us both
open our minds and welcome them. Come
forth, if you will.
Student #1: I have an idea on courage that
seems to involve a lot of faith. You just
can’t know everything so you have to have
the courage of your faith to jump into
something and do it. But I also like the
idea of fool-hardy, actually, because after a
kind of spontaneous thing you have to have
the courage to go out there and
try something new. If you can’t know
everything, you can think to yourself it is
fool-hardy. I was wondering if you could
talk a little more about the difference of being
fool-hardy, and courage.
(Courage contra-distinct from
fool-hardiness)
Nebadonia: Yes, my son. Courage--to me—is
the human ability to act or to do, the
determination to do what you feel is right--all
the while admitting and feeling all the
fear that might be keeping you from doing
that! It means staying open, moment by
moment. You have a commitment, a
determination, to understand moment by moment
that your fear that can be a righteous caution.
Think about traveling a very dark, winding
road at night with only that oncoming
road dancing in your headlights. You are determined to go somewhere and you
know
you have to be very attentive moment by
moment. You can feel, not just the fear, but
the caution that keeps you from going too
fast and throwing your life away by ignoring
the present situation and all the threat
that it contains.
Whereas fool-hardiness is saying “Well, to
hell with this caution, I’m just going to rush
into whatever it is. Whatever scary thing it
is, whatever threat is coming at me, I’m
just going to let myself go.”
It’s called fool-hardy because yes, you may be very hardy,
but you’re a fool because
you’re throwing your life away. You’re refusing
to acknowledge the genuine fear and
threat in the situation. You’re refusing to
feel. You have a saying about your alcoholic
drinks that “courage comes in a bottle,” but
it doesn’t always take some strong booze.
Some folks haven’t the courage or nerve to
stay with the situation moment by moment,
but can only throw themselves into it. The
reason fool-hardiness has such a negative
connotation is because of the result.
(Foolish impatience)
Impatience often leads to this kind of
fool-hardiness, whereas courage means the ability
to not just react right within that feeling.
Fear may sometimes be overwhelming, but it
can be a wisdom coming from your whole self,
your whole sense of past experience and
your soul--all your deeper knowledge and understanding.
These can give rise to a fear
that is simply caution. You need to do your
best to feel it, acknowledge it, and respect
it. And still act!
That takes courage. Does this give you some
notion? It’s not being a fool, but the exact
opposite.
Student: Yes, a little bit. Still… I guess
I’m kind of impatient and spontaneous, and I
kind of rely on… I get myself in trouble,
but I kind-of rely on your spirit of intuition. I
just jump into things and hope my spirit and
intuition are going to guide me through. It
is kind of an adventure, and I do feel kind
of a fool because sometimes I end up in
something I wasn’t expecting. But I am
always learning.
Could you talk a little bit more about the
spirit of intuition and how it guides our
courage?
(Intuition, knowledge, understanding)
Nebadonia: Yes, my son. Intuition has a lot
of different connotations, but we mean it
as your very most basic, direct, immediate
perception, your experience of life itself in
all of its dimensions. It’s your ability to
know both yourself and others--the essence of
experience itself. You store that living
experience as knowledge; you know something
because you’ve done it. And of course you
have vicarious experience, the way your
intuition can give you an experience because
you’ve read it in a book.
Yet even that is a creative, learned art
because, as you know, some folks can get an
enormous amount of experience from reading,
while others who have not learned that
particular art cannot.
Sometimes intuition can be led by curiosity
to an openness, a wondering about what
something is, that leads you to more
experience. Also sometimes, the intuition of your
whole being can present you with certain
feelings, such as fear. All of a sudden, you
don’t even know where it is coming from, but
you hesitate or stop because you have
this feeling. It may take you a few moments
to realize what is causing it. As I said
before, it’s wonderful to be open to caution,
where to be fool-hardy is to deny any kind
of fear.
It does not take courage to feel impatient,
or the inability to experience fear. But my
son, the very fact that we are here, talking
together, means that most of your fool-
hardiness has been genuine courage, or you
simply would not be here. Every person in
their life--especially in your highly
mechanical age now—has experienced more than
one time the impulse to throw their life
away; yet here you are. Does this give you a
deeper notion?
Student: Thank you for exploring that with
me.
(Where courage leads)
Nebadonia: Thank you. Again, my son, I
congratulate you on your courage, especially
with those things that were a total surprise
and you could not anticipate. That is the
very purpose of courage--to lead you to
things that you have not yet encountered.
Consider what happens after this human life
of yours. Go out on a starry sky at night
and entertain the notion that that is where
you are headed. That is where your curiosity
will be leading you, and all the courage,
all this ability you will have acquired, will stand
you in good stead. So be in my Love.
Student: Thank you. (long pause) If there is
not another question, I have another one
for you.
Nebadonia: Of course. Go ahead.
Student: Imagine two people coming together
in a third dimension. I got an idea that
as two people come together, there is always
a medium between the two, kind-of like a
quantum affect in the sense that Paradise is
the center. So any interaction between two
people always goes through Paradise first,
then goes to the other person, which gives it
that one-plus-one-equals-three. Can you
explore that a little bit?
(Where one and one make three)
Nebadonia: Well, yes, my son. You definitely
have your finger on it insofar as each of
you is unique, right from God. That means
that any time two of you get together, that
combination, that living dynamic, is also
unique.
But believe me, it doesn’t have to go
through Paradise. It is right down here on earth,
and im-mediate—no intermediary--because each
of you has your own intuition of
each other. Obviously your intuition of each
other is enormously complex, depending on
how long you have known each other. Are you
brand new? What prejudices—pre-
judging--are each of you bringing to the
meeting? But because the meeting is itself
unique, it’s why I called it a “third party”—the shared
companionship that can arise.
And of course you can have more than two. You can have
three, or four, or a whole
group that is unique to themselves.
Think of religion mainly as your personal
relationship to God. Yet this can be socialized
in what you normally called “religion” as a
group of people coming together to share
and enjoy their religious and spiritual
experiences. The different religions of the world
vary according to the different cultures
that people are raised in. So this is the extra
something that comes about when people get
together.
What we call companionship concerns the
dearest true companions that you’ve had in
your life—what you call your closest
friends--those with whom you’ve shared the
broadest and deepest experience. This is what
I mean by that “third something,” that
living companionship that arises that is
just as unique as the two of you are. Does that
fill the bill?
Student: Yes, that is pretty good. I feel it
seems that always when people interact
they are transcending the frame or
background--sort of what you are saying. I was
thinking: there is always a background
there. You are saying we transcend the frame
we are working in--and our
circumstances—when we are into pure communication.
(Trust, faith, and spontaneity)
Nebadonia: Yes! When each person is open-minded
and sufficiently curious, the third
thing, the relationship, can be very
spontaneous. It can transcend what either one can
anticipate. That is really the delight! Two
friends who have known each other for fifty
years or more, can still get together and have
something spring up all by itself. It’s
that very “something else” that is actually
holding them together. It’s something that
spontaneous arises which is beyond what
either one can create by themselves alone.
It comes about when each lets themselves go,
not controlling the situation, but with an
earned deep trust and faith in their basic
humanity, this basic incomprehensible part of
another person you can never throw a loop
around. Rather, you can simply respect it
and have a humble, delightful attitude
toward another person. You appreciate them so
much you let them be. And they let you be. Then
something spontaneous arises. We
call this spirit because it is alive and
creative. It is capturing the aspect of now that has
not happened before and will never happen
again.
I pointed out poor souls that cannot let go
of themselves and actually know this. It is
tragic indeed when they have to control everything
to be sure that nothing spontaneous
does arise, they are so afraid of others. So
it does take courage to really enjoy
spontaneity and let it come about.
Student: Thank you.
Nebadonia: Thank you, my son. These are fun
things to explore are they not? Be in
my love.
Student: One more comment I have, and that
is: one beauty of personality is that it is
made to interact with other personalities.
That is its purpose; and that is a kind of
beauty.
(Respecting a child’s spirit and autonomy)
Nebadonia: That interaction is the great
ability of those who were fortunate enough to
have had wonderful parents. If the parents
are this way with each other, and with their
children, it is the way they give their
children autonomy right from the very beginning.
They can recognize that yes, although this
little creature, this little boy or girl definitely
came from all their efforts, his or her personality
is coming from God. What a gift to
enjoy and acknowledge this even to a very
young child, and respect that this little
creature of theirs has his or her own
autonomy: and relate that way!
What a blessing. What a total blessing for a
child to have this kind of parents who
can enjoy and enter into a spontaneous
exchange, encouraging and acknowledging
their child’s creativity.
Well, my dears, if there are no further
questions or comments, this has been a long
lesson--getting together this evening. I’ll
go ahead and wrap things up with my blessing
upon you all.
Thank you so much for attending these sessions,
and creating what you call the gestalt-
-the shared mind that we have during these
lessons, with these marvelous
technological inventions of yours--these
telephones.
So bid you all Good Night. Be in my love.
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