[tmtranscripts] NET #02, Aug. 22, 2016

[Roxanne Andrews]

PR

*New Era Transition #02 **– Transitions; Democracy; Trauma – Aug. 22, 2016*

*Machiventa Melchizedek*, Planetary Manager

Topics:

Change does not always mean evolution

How the light within you is seen by others

This New Era of Transition

Maturity of cultures in our world

Using the 6 core values in life

Transition Era will start slowly

Collapse from the inside out

Democratic nations must be flexible and adaptable

Social justice, peace and social stability

Backwards countries

Chemical imbalances of the brain

Framing questions

Dealing with the traumatic effects of catastrophes

More on framing questions

Mental health issues

Raising spiritual consciousness

Control over non-natural cataclysms

The good of the individual vs. the good of the whole

Thinking outside the box

Closing remarks by Machiventa

TR:  Daniel Raphael

Team members:  Roxanne Andrews, Michael Lanier, Michael McCray, and a
Student

Invocation

*August 22, 2016*

*MACHIVENTA:*  Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, and welcome to
a new day.  We know that for many of you who follow these sessions that it
seems like just another television episode that rolls over to another and
another and continues to develop and evolve.  There are subtle changes but
the plot remains the same and that you can, in some ways for many of you
do, drop in and see that it is not changed much in the space of a year or
two.  But on the other hand, the developments that are occurring are many
of which you do not see, which we have said before.

For you, who are mortals of a lifetime of approximately 80 years more or
less, there is a certain tedium to this sameness that you get tired of.  We
are quite aware of that.  You will become morontial someday, and eventually
spiritual, and you will look back at the developments in your life, and in
your society, and you will see the rush of details that unfolded so
rapidly, much like watching a flower in a movie that takes a frame every
hour and so you see the flower come out of the ground from its seed or bulb
and mature within less than 60 seconds into a fully mature flower.  This is
how we are seeing your world today.

*Change does not always mean evolution*

The social, political, economic changes are immense, and at the same time,
while these changes are immense, that does not necessarily mean that they
are evolving.  Some of the changes are devolutionary, going backwards, and
that we see a rush of social maturity as being stopped and halted, and that
your family structures are deteriorating and becoming debilitating to new
generations, which is totally contrary to the other 9 out of 10 planets in
the Local Universe.  Your experimental decimal planet provides much
challenge to the administration of any Creator Son throughout the Grand
Universe.  With 37 planets, there is even more of a challenge.  However,
the uniformity of the goal of each planet is the same for each and for all,
and that is for the evolutionary, spiritual growth and development of each
mortal individual, and to provide the best circumstances and opportunities
for individual growth.

*How the light within you is seen by others*

You can put yourself directly into that equation, even though this is a
strategic, developmental plan for the planets that were in quarantine,
nonetheless you have a special place for yourself in it, and those plans,
those strategic goals are also individually tailored to you.  You are not
alone.  You are not abandoned.  You are not forgotten.  You are remembered
intimately and completely.  You, however, make the difference in how we
relate to you.  When you are a bright and shinning beacon of consciousness
on your planet, we see you; we literally “see you,” as a bright and
shinning beacon of that light that emanates from within you.  It says that
you are akin to the light of the universe of the First Source and Center
Creator, and that you are similar in ways to Nebadonia and the Creator Son,
Christ Michael, and that there is an affinity within you to grow that light
into greater brilliance and in breadth, and you will achieve it, my
friends, in the ultimate destiny of time, even in Nebadon when you are
greeted and embraced by your Creator Son, Christ Michael.

*This New Era of Transition*

As we have said in past sessions, the New Era will continue, however, there
is now occurring a parenthesis, so to speak, opening a Transition time that
will also have a closing parenthesis in the New Era.  This is a transition
from the early phase of the New Era to a later phase of the New Era.  We
have said that we have provided to you *the Urantia Book* from the 1930s
and its publication in the mid-1950s.  The Teaching Mission came along and
provided you with the fundamentals of that course, that structure to your
syllabus of classes and developments for you as individuals, and for your
families and your communities.  The Magisterial Mission has come along to
collectively develop socially and spiritually mature individuals into
working groups to provide your world with the transition it needs from the
primitive nature of its societies into much more mobile, flexible, and
facile communities and societies that can grow and socially evolve into
their eventuality as spiritual communities, while here on this material
planet.

This transition time is a period where individual plans are developed into
social plans so that organizations begin to take on the qualities of mature
social organizations that are safe emotional and social environments for
their employees, for their workers and for those individuals who constitute
the organization.  This is a period of time that will last perhaps decades,
and give way to the New Era as it is expresses itself in societies that are
much more settled and peaceful and more fully democratic, where individuals
are more responsible for their individual and social behavior than ever
before, where the individual sees him or herself as co-responsible with
other individuals and their communities for the care of themselves and for
the improvement of their whole society.

*Maturity of cultures in our world*

This is not the case now with most individuals in your society, and
particularly in less mature and evolved societies as well.  We are not
saying that the United States culture is the perfect culture, for far from
it; there are more mature cultures in the world than this, my friends, and
it is worthy to look about in the world to cultures within nations that are
more mature and more peaceful and more thoughtful in the care of
individuals, and the individual’s thoughtful care of their community and
society.  It is all a very mixed bag of developments on your world, and we
work with the most developed and the least developed.  For the least
developed, we try to provide an environment of growth, peace, and stability
so that they can become settled.  When you see the wars and genocide, and
the militancy of various groups in Africa and the Middle East, these seem
to be worst case scenarios for any society, any culture, any ethnic group,
nation or individual.  These are fully debilitating events and calamitous
situations that lead to great personal chaos in the intra-social, and the
inter-social parameters of a person’s life.

When one has not been raised in a peaceful situation, and chaos, war and
conflict reign in their minds, to those timid individuals it means that
they are at a loss and eventually will become a victim of those events.
Even those who are perpetrators of violence are victims as well, victims of
a larger scope of the intention of their socio-religious cultural groups,
which can be very defaming to the individual and destructive to the inner
structures of personalities, to families and to communities.  These groups
are most difficult for us to work with, as the social structure around them
does not lend itself to the improvement of the individual and to the
peaceful nature of good family structures.

*Using the 6 core values in life*

These are not forgotten, surely they are not, for the Most Highs work in
the administrations and leadership groups of organizations around the
world, whether they are non-profit, whether they are governmental,
corporate—or otherwise—that the Most Highs work within those organizations
for the development of right circumstances for those communities, which are
in such distress.  When you take the sum total of what I have been saying
this morning into consideration on a personal basis, then you have the
perspective of a Planetary Manager.  Much of our training has been to
assist you to become Planetary Managers, where your consideration for
others is as great or greater than for yourself.  We know that you will
strive to take care of yourself, which is a part of your very nature. Where
you seek the improvement of your quality of life means that you will
continue to seek to improve your circumstances; your equal consideration of
others is a tremendous boon to your compassion and your empathy, which is
of great assistance to yourself as an evolving spiritual being and to
yourself as a social person among others.  This is how you become great in
the eyes of others, and in the esteem of yourself that is realistic and not
narcissistic.

*Transition Era will start slowly*

This Transition Era is going to be a slow engine to start.  We have likened
this motion to that of an old steam engine locomotive, where the fire is
made greater and greater that boils the water and the steam rising far past
the level of boiling into the super-heated levels of 600-800 degrees steam,
which then becomes explosively expansive.  This is our efforts in your
world to expand the explosive nature of good works, where the compassion of
individuals reaches out to assist others.  Organizations that are ossified,
calcified, and crystallized into a lattice work of staid stability will
have great difficulty in the future.  Those organizations that are
intrinsically immobilized in their ability to adapt to changing
circumstances will be crushed in the near future.

*Collapse from the inside out*

You will see whole societies, whole organizations collapse suddenly from
the inside out, that they cannot withstand the dynamic of changing
organizations and social structures and social change among individuals and
groups of individuals.  It is in the interests of the Days of Light and
Life that governments become adaptable and flexible, to take into
consideration the organic nature of social change within individuals as
they interpret those core values into their own personal hierarchy of
needs.  When these are far distant and different from those of their
government, then there will be change that will soon follow.

*Democratic nations must be flexible and adaptable*

As we have said before, democracy is the most developed form of government
for your Urantian planet and civilization.  Revolt and revolution within a
democratic society is anathema and totally destructive and will take your
societies backwards rapidly in time to martial law and to dictatorships and
military triumvirates, and so on.  It is essential that your democratic
nations evolve to become more flexible and adaptable, and that this begins
by adopting a new value structure for making decisions.  We have emphasized
this in the past through the 6 core values of social sustainability so that
those decisions are humane, as well as being just and necessary.  Only
through those groups within a democratic society that see these needs in a
wide spectrum of the population can they become actors to accelerate social
change that is progressive and evolutionary, rather than receding into past
modes of social structures.

*Social justice, peace, and social stability*

You in this nation of the United States have a very broad and wide populace
who fit that generality, even those to the near far-right and near far-left
see the need for change and are in many ways amenable to reasonable and
rational change.  When your forms of governments become organic extensions
of the organic values and needs of individuals and whole groups of
individuals, then they will become more responsive in a responsible way to
match the needs of your society, while also adhering to the necessity of
social justice, peace, and social stability.  Democracy must not die; it
must mature.  It is much like that plant that we showed you through
time-lapsed photography that there is a time of beginning, a middle stage
before germination, then germination and new seeds being sprouted around
the world, while it matures in itself.  Just because a society says it is
democratic does not mean that it is advanced.  It means that it provides
the opportunity for adaptability in the future of necessity in order to
match the needs of individuals and whole communities for rational
governance.  It allows for growth of individuals and the development of
more integral communities, whether they are ethnic, cultural, or
homogeneous.

Thank you for this time to give you this short discourse.  You will see
changes in your own nation before too long.  You have seen the difficulties
of evolving and developing democratic nations in the world in the East, as
they move from old monarchial forms to early democratic processes.  You are
now also seeing developed and maturing democracies that need the same kind
of adaptability so that individuals become more responsible in their own
governance along with their public executives.  Thank you.

*Roxie:*  Thank you very much for giving us more in-depth perspective on
this “New Era Transition.”  That will be very helpful when we form
questions.

Does anyone have questions on Machiventa’s opening statements?

*Student:*  Machiventa, you talked about some countries are more exact in
their democracies, or are more advanced in their approaches to social
sustainability.  Could you talk a little bit more about that, please, and
how much more advanced they are than we are?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Your question is most difficult to answer, as there is no
qualitative or quantitative way to measure that.  It is simply that there
are countries that are more mature in their evolution of democracy.
Speaking more about it is too general to answer your question, or to make a
reasonable answer.

*Student:*  Sir, could I ask, are they using the 6 core values?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, many of these more developed democracies are
unconsciously using the 6 core values in their administration and their
policy development.  This allows them to become more stable socially,
politically, and economically.

*Student:*  So this is just something they evolved into; it’s not something
that has been brought to their attention?

*MACHIVENTA:*  That is correct.

*Backwards countries*

*Student:*  Another question that came up during your talk, when you were
talking about countries that are going backwards, sort of like some
countries are having more difficulties, for instance Africa and the Middle
East.  It affects everybody, Sir, and when you talk like that, I just feel
very guilty, because of the fact that we are all trying, and there are a
lot of places that are not functioning in the way that they are supposed
to, but what do we do?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Well, [pause], you attend these meetings every 2 weeks, and
we talk with each other and we assist you to work in your communities.  You
are doing that.  You continue to belittle yourself for what you are doing,
but what you are doing is magnanimous to the 9th degree compared to others
around the world.

*Student:*  No, it’s never enough, Sir; it’s never enough.  And the other
thing you talked about too was the age group at the beginning of your
conversation, people in their 80s and that.  To my way of thinking, people
that are in their 80s, 90s or 70s, or whatever, with their experience of
life you would think that they would be more open to receiving these
different changes—their values, social sustainability and accept them
willingly—and this isn’t happening, I gather?

*MACHIVENTA:*  By the use of this phrase, a span of 80 years of a lifetime
as a general age or years of a person’s life, rather than speaking to an
age group.  Do you see what I mean?  (Student:  Yes, Sir.)  It was not
addressing to those 80 year old people.

*Student:*  No, Sir, but it was just the generality of that.  I was
thinking that the age group would have more insight and understanding.
Thank you.  (*Machiventa:*  You are welcome.)  I don’t have any more
questions on this subject, but I have other questions; I will leave them
unless others have questions on what you talked about.

*MMc:*  As you say, Machiventa, I think this transition is going to be slow
and a very difficult one for some.

*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, you are correct.

*Chemical imbalances of the brain*

*Student:*  This question is to do with a previous question sent by a
reader about schizophrenia and drugs.  He now sends another question, and
his question relates to Machiventa’s answer.  “Are the chemical imbalances
spoken of previously, which caused this deleterious development of the
brain organ in late youth and beyond, affecting the development inevitable,
or are they a pre-disposition that perhaps could have been prevented from
manifesting under favorable conditions?  If the latter, are there warning
signs a parent might look for and an action they might take, in regard to
schizophrenia?  Do you want me to break it down?  (*Machiventa*:  Please.)

One of the questions is on the chemical imbalance:  The previous question
he asked was, “Is there any advisable way a person might end the taking of
drugs without reverting back to their symptoms of schizophrenia?  And your
answer was on the chemical imbalances.  This question is:  Is there any way
this can be prevented?  Are there signs that the parents might be able to
look for before the person manifests any outward symptoms of schizophrenia?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Individuals who are pre-disposed by genetics, meaning that
there has been prior evidence in their families on either one or both sides
that have demonstrated some mental health issues.  Sometimes, the trauma of
separation from the family of origin at age 17 through their early 20s is
traumatic enough to cause an individual enough distress to begin the
imbalance in their thinking, and those are latent and potential into the
future.  There are some individuals who have a pre-disposition for mental
health issues that never manifest, simply because they have always had a
very supportive personal and social environment to care for them and
support them.  There are those occasions, however, in adulthood when there
may be some traumatic situation which would then bring this latent mental
health problem into manifestation.  It is not necessary that one follows
the other, however.

As far as families observing their children at the early stages, it is
important that parents review their own personal family history for
evidences of some mental health problems and issues that were manifest in
former generations, or in current generations.  Their best course of action
is to counsel, or have the child counseled with the parents about the
potential of these developments and what it means when those symptoms begin
to manifest.  It is important that the child, becoming an adult, not be
overwhelmed by their increasing disability.

Much can be done within the interior of the intra-personal relationship
between an individual and their mind and the functioning of their brain.
This has not been well developed in your culture and in your psychiatric
professional realms.  [The individual]  can observe the early
manifestations of this and can help their mind work against or work with
these symptoms for their own better adjustment.  There are many in your
populations around the world who are mentally ill, but who are adequately
able to conduct themselves in a “normal” manner, so that their behavior
allows them to function in their society.  I have gone on past the
necessity of the answers to your questions.  I would be glad to entertain
the next portion of your question.

*Student:*  Thank you, Sir.  But the next portion of my question refers to
the thing we talked before about emergencies, concerning drugs used for
psychiatric purposes and for health purposes, and to find out what local
plans were for these emergencies. I did check into it.  I asked about what
is the preparation, or what rules do they have regarding emergencies for
psych drugs, and things like that, and I was told that where we are, there
are no drugs, psychiatric or medical for heart or anything like that, that
they be stockpiled for any emergencies, because it is up to the individual
to make sure they have their own 72 hour supply, and then after that, it is
dependent upon the government to supply the drugs.  The reason given to me
was about liability.  Prescription drugs they just won’t deal with in
emergencies like that unless the Federal Government steps in.  So, I think
it’s important that other people should know this and they should search in
their communities to find out what their rules and regulations are.  I
don’t know how to go about changing it right now, except to make everybody
aware.

*MACHIVENTA:*  One of the purposes of our sessions is to make people aware.

*Student:*  Yes, Sir.  We have a responsibility for every person to look
out for their own selves, prescriptions and everything else for the first
72 hours, and then after that, well . . . hopefully the government will
step in.  Sir, do you have any further suggestions.

*MACHIVENTA:*  No, we have made them already.

*Roxie:*  Since our student brought up the subject of mental health and
drugs, Colorado and several other states are now legalizing the use of
marijuana for recreational  and medical purposes, and a few more states
allow just medicinal purposes.  Can you tell us how this particular drug
affects the brain, because so many people believe that it is completely
harmless and others do not?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Your medical journals are most replete concerning the
affects of marijuana and the active psychogenic/psycho-active ingredients
in marijuana that affects the mind and the brain.

*Roxie:*  Are these permanent-type changes?

*MACHIVENTA:*  This too, has been considered in those journals.

[This is *Daniel:*  I think our audience here is making a mistake in
thinking that Machiventa is your personal Wikipedia.  This just doesn’t
work, and that’s my opinion as I feel the Celestials withdraw from a
question.  That isn’t apparent to you, but they just aren’t our own
encyclopedia.  They are concerned with Planetary Management.  That doesn’t
minimize your concerns for this problem, but how does it affect the general
welfare of the world?

*Roxie:*  It’s just that we get so many conflicting opinions in our own
sources.  That was my reason for asking.  But you are right.

*Student:*  What you just said is true because there are so many personal
opinions and conflicting opinions about different important subjects, that
I think the reason we ask Machiventa some of these questions is because we
are looking for some truth to deal with the subject because we don’t really
know about a lot of these things, and we are still grasping for the truth
of them.  There are just so many opinions.

*Daniel:*  Will you wait just a minute for Machiventa’s response to that?

*Framing questions*

*MACHIVENTA:*  It would be more purposeful and useful if your questions
were framed in a less specific manner.  If your questions were more
generally as this:  Is marijuana detrimental to the health of an individual
and to a society?  This takes into the moral parameters of decision-making
and of slow, creeping social debilitation due to widespread drug use.
Those kinds of questions are within our venue to address more specifically,
more generally.  We are concerned about populations being enhanced in their
capability for making decisions and also in the slow, gradual debilitation
of society.

*Dealing with the traumatic effects of catastrophes*

*Student:*  Thank you, Sir; you are right.  I have a question and I hope I
have worded it the right way.  My question is on trauma and how it affects
people, especially with the changing times coming now, the traumas are
going to escalate and also the types of traumas that people are going to
experience.  Could you talk about that, please?

*MACHIVENTA:*  In what regard?

*Student:*  In regard to if there is a cataclysm—and there is going to
be—people are not going to be able to get the things they are used to, not
necessarily just drugs and things like that, but for everyday living, and
the traumas are going to affect a lot of people who never, ever dealt with
trauma in their lives.  How do we positively deal with this type of
trauma?  Is that too general a question?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you for your question.  The first and best way to
address trauma is to realize that trauma is coming, and to know that there
will be trauma, and that there will be confusion.  There will be social
confusion, economic confusion, and political confusion; and that there will
be confusion in peoples’ thinking and that they will be incapable of making
decisions at that time.  You have seen instances where people have been in
trauma, where their house caught on fire and the only thing they took out
of the house was their cosmetics.  Or they took out something that was
irrelevant to the total situation.  It will be cataclysmic on the personal
community spectrum of living.  Your best preparation for engaging trauma is
to know that trauma is coming, and that it will be much like sitting on the
top of a hill where you see the tsunami come across the western side of
your island and raise the level of water in the bay, and as you sit on the
hill there is nothing you can do about it, but you see the water engulf
businesses and houses, and so on.  And then as the water recedes, you see
many individuals being washed out to sea along with their cars and houses
and other materials that will eventually drown and sink into the ocean.
You are then helpless with that situation.  This is trauma of a very
heightened nature, seen as an observer.

However, if you were sitting on the dock of the pier when the water rose
suddenly within less than 1 minute, then ten feet, it would be a cataclysm
for your own personal life.  You would be engulfed in the process of trying
to stay above water and to survive by grabbing onto something that was
floating.  Yes, the trauma of those situations will be horrendous, and it
will be something that some individuals can endure and live through in
relative ease, where others are totally crushed psychologically by what
they see going on around them.  How will you react when this occurs?  You
are an elder person and so you have had a full life already.  Will you
easily succumb to your mortal passage, or will you resist it in trying to
save others as well?

This becomes personal when you see trauma on a wide scale basis.  It always
eventually becomes personal and how you make decisions about that.  And
what decisions will you make?  Those [decisions] are the most important
things to consider now:  “Who are you?” “What are you made of?”  “Do you
have empathy for others?”  “Will you reach out in compassion to help them,”
and you will probably even see many who will sacrifice their life to save
that of others, and these are worthy things to do and [are] never
forgotten.  The question is very poignant and very timely.  Within the next
10 years your countryside’s and your world will have much trauma that they
will engage on a personal, local and national basis.  It will come in many
forms; it is not specific, it is general, but you will have trauma in your
lives as you are seeing among those people in the Gulf States of the United
States where there are tremendous floods, as well as the incredible
flooding and fires in other nations across the world.  Monjoronson has
spoken of this in years past, and has tried to help prepare you for these
traumas now that they have become closer to your life.  You are going to,
and you are even now living through them.  There are those in our audience
today who are now undergoing this kind of trauma through the great dis-ease
of themselves and their families.

*Student:*  Thank you, Machiventa, and thank you for generating so many
questions like that.  With these traumas and as we deal with them, Sir,
could you please talk about the spiritual energies that we are going to
really be working on to deal with all this?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Your question is too general to answer, Dear.

*Student:*  Oh, okay.  I’m trying to figure out what is meant by the words
“spiritual energies?”  (Long pause.)  I don’t have any more questions.

*More on framing questions*

*ML:*  My question is this:  Is it correct to assume that if Machiventa is
withdrawing from a question, that issue or question is not relevant to the
Management of Responsibilities that we are being look to, to provide?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you for your question; it is a very appropriate
question to be asked.  Oftentimes, as you might have witnessed just
immediately before you asked your question, you heard that I did not
respond to the statement of the Student.  And this was because it was not
addressed as a question.  First of all, we, whether it is myself or a
member of our team, strive not to respond to comments as that can cause
confusion and ambiguity in the individual who made the statement.  It
“assumes” that we understand that there is a question, or some question in
mind by that individual.  When we demur from answering a question, it is
because of several reasons:  1) It may be a curiosity question and not be
relevant to our work, or to the lives of the individuals to make a moral,
ethical, or evolving decision.  2)  Another reason for demurring is that it
is a probing question, but is not relevant to what we are doing.  3)  We
prefer to engage questions which require a large scale perspective to your
world, and then to your nations and cultures and the communities, families
and individuals, and that we strive to avoid providing answers to
individuals, which may be used erroneously in the future to make a decision.

We have devised our own protocols for answering questions, which never have
been discussed with you in such a specific way as your question has asked
for.  It is good to do so.  We do know that there is a desire by
individuals to take the macro perspective to the micro perspective, and
then apply that to themselves or to their local situation.  What we strive
to do in answering these is not to provide information which provides an
excuse or a reason for the individual not to take rational, spiritual
evolving action and decisions in their life.  We do not want our words be
used as:  “Well, Machiventa told us . . .”, and so on, and then to prove or
disprove the validity of what Machiventa said.  This would be the height of
folly in having these sessions occur.  We strive not to allow that
ambiguity and those difficult situations to develop.  That is why in many
ways our answers and responses are so generalized for you.

*Mental health issues*

When you come to a case of mental health issues, you realize that, yes, it
is a species specific difficulty for Homo sapiens and that, yes, it is
specific to your family genetic heritage and that perhaps even you as an
individual has a specific difficulty with some psychiatric problem.
Therefore, the general problem of mental health in the human species
becomes very specific to the individual.  How to ask a question that
addresses both the general and the specific is one that we would encourage
you ask.

*Raising spiritual consciousness*

*ML:*  Thank you.  I have another question.  Is there an effect occurring
on the future cataclysms by way of the rising spiritual consciousness?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, there definitely is.  As you know, the Power Directors
for this solar system and particularly for your planet can suppress
energetic developments in specific areas and otherwise.  They can also have
an effect upon the weather in some general ways that can be postponed or
delay the difficulties that will occur.  If you, as an individual or
corporate manager of a situation, knew that you had an unavoidable
development that was occurring, [and] you had the capability of delaying
that detrimental action, you would perhaps wish to do so, to allow it to
release itself at the most opportune time in the future for the welfare of
your corporation or company.  It may have to do with going public or to the
sale of stocks, or to acquiring another company, and so on.  You have
issues that can be delayed, but will have to be engaged in eventually.

Planetary Management is not much different.  In this case, the general
spiritual evolution of your world is increasing generally, though you know
as well as we do that specifically and in specific areas it is highly
detrimental and almost non-existent.  Therefore, we want to assist those
areas that are growing spiritually to become models and exemplars of mature
social and spiritual development.  It has been our action so far to protect
those areas as much as we can.  Eventually, however, those geophysical
aspects of your world that have been delayed will eventually express
themselves in a rather much more detrimental way.  In that regard, as we
have said, we do know that there will be events in the future that are not
of a geophysical nature that will be incredibly tumultuous and cataclysmic
to your world, and it is perhaps at that time that great change can take
place after these cataclysms have passed.

*Control over non-natural cataclysms*

*MMc:*  Does the spiritual world have some control over these cataclysms
that are not natural in nature?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Only to a limited extent.  When you consider social,
political and economic realms as having the capacity to express cataclysmic
developments, those are in many ways, cultural, they are sometimes isolated
to specific organizations, but most of the time they are developmental and
develop to a point where the social structure, political structure,
economic structures can no longer suppress those actions.  As we have said
before, there will be a cataclysmic economic development that [will] occur
on your world that will affect all economies.  The spiritual realm can
assist in deferring these as much as possible, by having individuals come
forward with those Nobel Prize Winning inclusions in their research and in
their actions that provide excellent examples or insights into better
social, political, or economic management.  This has been very advantageous
to us, as there are many people who have open psyches that are open to the
new ideas and who are not constrained or confined to the old cultural boxes
of ideology.

*Roxie:*  I’ll go on with some other questions our readers have sent in:
“Given that many planets in our system did not go into rebellion, what are
the benefits of the Planetary Prince’s staff leaving behind their Thought
Adjusters when embarking on this service?

*MACHIVENTA:*  Let us defer that question until the next session, thank you.

*The good of the individual vs. the good of the whole*

*Roxie:*  Okay.  The next one:  “As we know from the Urantia Book, our
Paradise Father follows the principle of maintaining the unity and
integrity in the Management of the Universe.  In this work, the private
interests are sacrificed for the good of the whole.  Eco-villages must
learn to choose priorities to make hard decisions in difficult conditions
of survival to preserve its existence and even make development possible.
Therefore, there is an inevitable conflict of interests, private interests
versus the interests of the whole.  What could you say about the management
of eco-settlements which are in difficult circumstances like these?

*MACHIVENTA:*  The question begs for a much broader perspective of private
interests versus public or community or societal interests.  The first
perspective is to change this from adversarial to cooperative and
complemental.  This decision-making has not been given deep thought as to
the priorities of sustainability.  There must be, first of all, a sorting
out between the priorities of material sustainability within that general
area.  Secondly, there must be a prioritization of decision-making within
the social sustainable area of consideration.  What is most important to
the sustainability of a society?  Of course it is the sustainability of
individuals and individual families so that the community can reproduce and
maintain itself and sustain itself.  However, when the interests of
individuals, the private side of this equation, become dominant and selfish
to the extent that it compromises the integrity and sustainability of the
whole of society or community, then there will be social decline and
destruction of the whole community or society.

What we have given you through This One, is an illustration of the
hierarchy of decision-making for societies and for individuals.



Priorities of Decision-Making

To Create a Socially Sustainable Society

Species

Individual/Family

Community/Society



ORGANIZATIONS

*Social-Societal*

ORGANIZATIONS

*Political-Governmental*

ORGANIZATIONS

*Economic-Financial*



[Parts of the diagram did not transfer to email format.  See attachment for
a better presentation.]

In text, it is that the sustainability of the species always comes first.
Every species on your world is constructive, rather than self-destructive.
It seeks to replicate itself in dominating its environment.  Of course, as
you know from these studies that when the species becomes too dominant and
too pervasive, then it dominates its environment and it kills itself off
due to too many numbers.

You must reconsider the social contract between the individual and your
society.  This is an important facet of thinking in the priorities of your
societies and the obligatory symbiotic relationship between individuals and
the society.  Individuals have a moral obligation to do all they can to
save and sustain their society without overwhelming that society by their
sheer numbers.  Society, on the other hand, has an obligation in this
relationship to do all it can to unlock and develop the potential within
each individual without expending so many resources that it becomes
debilitated and unable to participate effectively in this relationship.
This is an area of consideration that is far past philosophical, but lands
“smack dab” in your lap as a practical matter for individuals and for your
communities.

You see, then, in the democracy of the United States and those in Europe,
and so on, that this relationship, this conversation of this obligatory
symbiotic relationship has been held at arm’s distance as a philosophical
matter of those individuals who think about things like that.  However,
this is an essential aspect of discussion and enculturation for every
generation, without missing any generation in this enculturation.  Your
societies in general have been dismissive of enculturation’s performance to
assist society to survive, let alone [assist] its citizens as individuals.

*Thinking outside the box*

*Roxie:*  His next question is:  “Thinking outside the box does not help
where it is necessary to stick to routine things.  On the other hand,
routine thinking does not give the ability to create innovative solutions.
How does one balance these two opposite abilities without any loss to think
creatively?”

*MACHIVENTA:*  I am chuckling because you give evidence to having the
answer already.

*Roxie:* I guess that’s all the questions I have for this session.

*Closing remarks by Machiventa*

*MACHIVENTA:*  In closing, we thank you for being here today to ask these
questions, which are rarely asked or supposed in the minds of individuals,
let alone large groups of individuals.  This is your “thinking outside the
box of your culture” by thinking of other planets and civilizations, as
well as thinking of how you can reinvent your own culture, your own
society, socially, politically and economically.  When you have this
openness to do this, you actually have the capacity to see problems as
opportunities to create solutions to old problems that cause those
difficulties.  Think about these things deeply and you will find it is not
so much the fact that problems arise, but how you deal with those problems,
how you view them.  Will you see them as problems and difficulties, or will
you see these problems as opportunities to create solutions that have never
come about before?

These words that I am sharing with you are nothing new to your philosophers
or to the thinkers of your societies.  This is old wisdom that is something
that is very important to be engendered in each individual, in each
generation.  We hope you will think long and hard about those aspects of
wisdom that are as applicable to this generation as they were to 5
generations before, and to 5 generations in the future.  Thank you very
much and have a good day.

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