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<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Richard,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Love
Without End, is a book written by Glenda Green, in the last few years. This is
her web site <A
href="http://www.lovewithoutend.com">http://www.lovewithoutend.com</A> She
is a portrait painter, and Jesus sat for her. The book is about the three months
she spent "talking" to Jesus. It is a fabulous book, which I thoroughly
recommend, particularly to folks that are orthodox, or maybe freaked out by
spirit contact. She has a Jesuit priest who has given his support, so you can
tell it is not going to freak folks out. The portrait is incredibly like the one
we have of James, that is to say, the family likeness is amazing, and also, it
matches a description we have been given of Jesus/Michael in Padgett's time.
There is some good stuff in that book.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Much
love,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=976341302-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Geoff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com
[mailto:owner-tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Richard Voss<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:44
PM<BR><B>To:</B> tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Geoff, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Can you tell me what "Love Without End"
is that you spoke of here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> (" <FONT color=#000080>As an aside, in
Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another approach to "Stillness"
)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Richard Voss</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Geoff@new-birth.net href="mailto:Geoff@new-birth.net">Geoff New
Birth</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com
href="mailto:tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com">tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 23, 2002 5:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [tmtranscripts] Silence
and Experiential Results</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My
dear Ron,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thank you for your thoughts. I do <STRONG>not</STRONG>, as you put
it, have a <STRONG>difficulty</STRONG> with Team's Stillness practice. I
thoroughly approve of it, and practice much the same myself. I have an
explanation, which is outside of theology, which is as
follows.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>By
opening yourself to soul to soul contact, you will grow your soul. The soul
is the only part of you that is infinite, or at least capable of interacting
with the infinite. Hence it is through the soul we learn to commune with
Father, or if you like, our TA. It is also possible to expand one's mind,
and to connect with creation, through the mind. But this does not allow us
to grow, as it were, our potential to be divine. And, without growing our
soul, we are frankly not going anywhere. And, so we have been told, is the
destiny of the majority of mortals. Even those who read the Ubook, I would
suggest, if they do not practice Stillness, or something equivalent. As an
aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another approach to
"Stillness" So there may be quite a few approaches. But all require DESIRE
on the part of the mortal to grow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>So, quite apart from the BENEFITS, that both you and Calvin (and I)
have itemised, this is to my mind absolutely critical for each of us who
seek a divine path. But, I have yet to see any such statement, or indeed any
explanation from your teachers. Padgett was certainly given a clear
explanation, but I would have liked to see your teachers do so. I think that
they may in fact be constrained by the UBook, because I don't think it
says anything either, and I realise that they find it hard to T/R material
outside that reference. We have a great deal of material about the
difficulty in T/Ring advanced spiritual material, and frankly, the only way
you are going to get better material from your teachers is by using T/R's
who have practised stillness for many years. Perhaps that is the case, I
certainly do not want to suggest otherwise. But it is very hard to receive
high level spiritual material. Equally it may be that your teachers are not
meant to "add" to the UBook, merely encourage you, as they are doing. So,
that may be the cause. If they only encourage, and are not permitted further
revelation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
am very unwilling to put words in your minds. Which to some extent I have
done above.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Much love,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=818185100-24122002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Geoff.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com
[mailto:owner-tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Aronolac<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:56
AM<BR><B>To:</B>
tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [tmtranscripts]
Silence and Experiential Results<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>I originally posted this to tmtalk last night forgetting each list
does not have everybody on it. So here are my views again to
TML. Thanks Calvin. Ron</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dear Geoff, Calvin, and List:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I understand some of the concept difficulty that Geoff may be
experiencing with the Team's stillness practice. Discussion between
the two of you are, however, just between theoretical concepts unless
one can access the other's experience and translate it to the
language each is comfortable with. I normally avoid discussing
real results with the stillness (or what ever else you may wish
to call it), but I will make an exception among friends. Thanks to
the stillness process I do experience an extraordinarily
thorough Thought Adjuster contact. There are nothing like
results, albeit unexpected ones, to provide a third view of
the concept under consideration.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In 1985 nothing worked in the meditation department for me.
Either I just fell asleep or I lost satisfactory mind control.
Seeking relief from self doubt, I abandoned the mantras, the crystals, the
soothing music, the warm-up pictures, candles, meditation tapes, and
so on. The answer to the problem for me was to get rid of all the
stage props and to keep the purpose of Thought Adjuster contact in front
of me when I sat down, and that was once a day every day, to make the
contact.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Within six months I had mind control. Within one year I had
deep and restful contact with the spiritual parts of the mind. In
three years I had robust Thought Adjuster contact (1988). >From 1988
to the present the Adjuster has a constant tone "on" with audible
give and take between us and considerable amounts of semi-conscious work
which I am aware of but can not name its content.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The point I wish to make is if anyone wishes to have contact with the
Father as a constant presence and company, there is little else to do but
learn to do the work. Still the mind and deepen mind
capacity while the Father waits beside you as you labor to hear. It
must become a habit and it has to be all the time or the toning reached
for by you in the mind and the development once done in the spiritual
circuits fades. To revitalize it by failing to practice
requires some readjustment by making the connection again and
again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The need for the stillness WILL END. It will no longer be
necessary when the Adjuster makes his appearance in the consciousness
centers with audible circuitry as a PERMANENT member of the
consciousness. It is a permanent CO-CONSCIOUSNESS. It is no
longer necessary to "listen", but now one needs only respond to the
constant flow of communication received in the consciousness. It is
thought to thought now.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is a tremendous complexity in Adjuster contact. The
Urantia Book gives us a minimum contribution in telling us
about it. It is really new-consciousness territory and mostly beyond
the bounds of revelation to this date on the planet. I say to the
list, if it is the desire of your soul and your FIRST desire, you
need to follow through completely with the full physical and mental
capacity at your disposal to do so. Use ALL of your
inside resources. If you do not know what resources you
have, find them in the silence, and then apply them in real
time. Half measures result in half results as
my many years before 1985 proved for me time and again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Teacher contact and channeling, from what I can get from my Adjuster
and from what I learn from all of you, comes with some prerequisites of
development, but once the circle development is met and the wish to
receive is communicated, the channel or the transmission-receiving process
can unfold. In other words the Teachers can establish contact with a
knock on their door, but the Adjuster is less likely to answer the door
with just a few knocks because of the need to reinforce the mind bridge to
take the weight of the Adjuster moving in and with other needs we are not
fully apprised of.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is simply no substitute for what is being called the quiet
time, the silence, and the sincere wish behind their practice to be
connected up to the higher-self. I am walking proof that it works as
advertised, and while I do not know anything else involved with the
process, I ask you if it is not enough to just have that? Anything
else less would not be Adjuster translation to the consciousness (although
you can transmit or channel him on occasion), and anything more would
result in translation to the mansion worlds.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You who channel or transmit-receive must practice with a connection
for many reasons. It's tough to go with what words you receive
mentally and to say them out loud to a listening group or even the tape
recorder. You are allowed to do this in a conscious state (Alpha),
some in semi-conscious (Beta), and very few in Delta(complete
overcontrol). Then, when you are done, the connection evaporates
until the next nudge or some other appointed time arrives to reopen
the connection. There are time intervals in which the channeler and
transmitter-receiver are not consciously alerted to a spiritual presence
and word-activity connection. In these times you tend to forget
about it and go about your business as is necessary.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When the Adjuster translates from the superconsciousness through the
work of the quiet-time, silence, communion, worship, or other internal
spiritual connectivity, such an action is at the discretion of the Thought
Adjuster. We may have the Supreme desire to have it, but it is the
Adjuster who has to make that decision, and he can only do it when
the mind has been prepared through practice to develop the strength to
receive this very powerful part of the self. At least that is what
I have gleaned from the Adjuster I have. This translation from the
highest spiritual levels of the mind to the material consciousness is
final. It will last until death or translation as I understand
it from my Adjuster. It does not leave you like your circuit
connections to the teachers or other channel information does. There
are no intervals of time without the Adjuster present even though he may
be (rarely) "quiet" sometimes. The Adjuster switch is never
flipped "off", but ever "on" upon completion of his status
change from the super-consciousness to the ego-area of awareness.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Those of you who have teachers or work in groups with teachers might
sometime ask them about this area of Adjuster translation to the ego-area
of awareness of consciousness, but such a development I believe must
always be preceded with the mind work done to strengthen the mind and to
put into place those robust connections that will serve as the bridge
between the pre-personal Adjuster and the material consciousness.
This work is not conscious when it begins, and in my case it was finished
and then, to my surprise, it suddenly was. I was not pre-warned.
The Thought Adjuster, I believe, uses that bridge to "cross over"
to you and become the increasingly personal Adjuster that we share
partially now and fully after fusion. At least it is my experience
that the Adjuster is no longer completely pre-personal with this
development. Obviously he is not totally personal either or I would
not be writing you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is much to explore in your own practice of the stillness.
There is much to learn from your Adjuster that has lasting import for the
future that may be understood now and experienced in the material
moment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Because language is a problem about the necessity of these practices
it is important, whatever the language used to describe it, to TEACH
YOURSELF about this relationship. Others can not do this for
you. It is not so important to teach yourself about
process, but to teach yourself to go for results and
develop your own terms about the meaning of what you have
learned.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My encouragement to you all!</DIV>
<DIV>Ron
Besser</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>