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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Evergreen Co-Creative Design Team
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Evergreen, Colorado</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Celestial Teachers:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><STRONG>Machiventa Melchizedek &
Sondjah Melchizedek</STRONG></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>December 17, 2007</FONT></H1>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good evening, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek, Planetary Prince and Governor of this world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am here tonight to thank you for your
presence, for your contribution to the beginning of the healing of this
planet.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, my friends and
supporters, are the ones who will assist this world to co-creatively come into
the days of light and life, that era which you have heard the Bible speak about,
“when lions lay down with lambs, and the jackals and rabbits are at peace.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So too, you will be at peace with your
neighbors, nationally and globally.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This may seem like an unexpected, impossible situation, but this is the
eventuality of every mortally inhabited world in Christ Michael’s Universe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are vitally important to this
outworking of Christ Michael’s plans.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I hope you realize that you are fully partnered with Christ Michael and
his partner, Nebadonia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are
essential ingredients to the healing of your planet.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have said numerous times before that
your world could be healed by fiat, by miracle within seconds, but what would
you learn?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What would generations
to come learn, except a dependency upon miracles, and the miracles, my friends,
are in you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are empowered by
Christ Michael to participate effectively with this program; <I>you</I>—<I>you
individually</I> are a part of this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You have a responsibility to engage this in accord with your commitment,
and we bless you, we enthuse you, we fill you with energy, we surround you, and
more so, we provide all that you need to engage this and to fulfill this program
with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I thank you for your
presence tonight; I leave you in the good hands of Sondjah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Group:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Machiventa.)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My friends, this is Sondjah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Welcome and good evening.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a pleasure to be here with you
once again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Last time, I gave you a
two-part question, and the question was this:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“What is a sustainable marriage?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“How would you design one, and how does
marriage contribute to a sustainable society and civilization?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Whereupon, you broke into two groups of
three each, and you discoursed this among yourselves and developed and devised
some questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the meantime,
you also developed a tremendous enthusiasm, came back to the larger group, and
spoke at length, to the extent that we had no time for dialog.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is no fault of yours, but rather a
loose leash that I have given you, and I am about to shorten the leash.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We have sparse time to work
together; we have less than two hours, once per week.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Eventually it is hoped that we will have
dedicated groups that will work every day, and hopefully, through some miracle
of your brotherhood, you will find the means to be supported through this, so
that it becomes an occupation, what you might call an employment, where you
contribute and you are compensated for your time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have any questions from last
time, and I anticipate that there may be a few, and we will limit the questions
to ten minutes, please.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have
questions?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Ann:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was wondering if you could
remind us as to whether we are supposed to be posing questions or raising
statements?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Either one.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may ask questions, asking for
clarification, and you may as well make statements of a probing nature, if you
wish.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah, are you referring to questions
from the groups that we broke up into last week, questions from when we got
together in that discussion, or are you open for input?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What questions are you looking for right
now?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish you to bring forward any
questions that developed in the sub-teams last week.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sheralyn:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah, I’m curious to know what is
your definition of a sustainable marriage.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is the point, isn’t it?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I posed the question because it is a
co-creative answer that we must discover together.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I could give you a definition of a
sustainable marriage, but then what would you have to work with?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am particularly enthused and specific
about the process of devising answers or plausible answers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The answers themselves, at this point,
would be premature.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am interested
in your engaging each other in the process of inquiry, exchanging ideas,
formulations and designs that you may make on the notepads that you bring with
you each week.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will have an
opportunity tonight to break into new groups, and work on this in a more
specific way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will give you a
challenge in a few minutes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I do not want to set the
parameters for a sustainable marriage—you are the ones who have to live with
these marriages.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must engage
this question and challenge from the perspective of really living in a
sustainable marriage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would
imagine that each of you could possibly design, on your own, at least four or
five, maybe six marriage scenarios that you may wish to devise into sustainable
marriages, sustainable relationships.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Do not limit yourself to tradition; think far, far, far outside the box
of tradition and religions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Remember, we are concerned about devising social institutions and social
relationships that are sustainable, meaning ones that you know the parameters of
their existence, and when you come to the end of them, when you engage a new
one, and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We will be engaging many social
institutions in the future, but this is one which I know that you are intimately
aware of, and which you have given much thought—even worry to, for having or not
having, and why some work and why some do not, and why they last and why they do
not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand my
limitations for you, concerning this question?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sheralyn:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I think I do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have another question, if I may
ask?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Please.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then I’m assuming that if we are looking
into a sustainable marriage, that marriage is part of our evolvement into this
New Era.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Marriage is a relationship.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can devise it, you can invent it,
you can define it, you can limit it, you can expand it however you wish.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will tell you this, though, and this
is the only clue I will give you concerning this subject, is that marriage is a
contractual relationship, which fosters the care taking of children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Outside of that, it can be anything you
want to design.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We wish that your
civilizations and societies be sustainable, which requires a contractual
marriage relationship that has as its primary concern the procreation and
socialization of the children that it produces, until their maturation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you.)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Cayce:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We talked a little about it last week;
we talked about a contractual relationship and came up with a question of a
contractual relationship for how long?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I think you were kind of going that way when you said, “through the
maturity of children?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So we talked
about it for how long, and what was the intention, and where does it play at
different stages of life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And then
I went back to the idea of marriage, and contractual and childbearing for
stability—raising children in a stable environment—that the parents act as a
socializing agent for the child.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And for that to happen, the kids have to have parents that are available
to them, and I know that’s pretty common here, but if we are looking world-wide,
….<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I was thinking about this
especially since my daughter was talking about what she had seen in Peru, where
the kids are just on the streets and shanties, and so they have relationships
that are producing children, but they can’t take care of them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They don’t have a stabilized society,
and if you don’t have a stabilized society, you don’t have a stabilized
marriage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems like it is just
a… if you don’t have the society to support the marriage and the children, then
the children and the marriage can’t support the society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems like it just goes in a
circle.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have to have a
sustainable society, and we’re looking at, it seemed like from reading the
Monjoronson information, that a lot of our problems, [is] that our society is
not sustainable, because of over-population, and yet we have cultures that just
produce children, and produce children, and produce children without having the
stable family behind them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So it
sounds like it’s the over-population… it sounds like [in order for] having a
sustainable family that you need to have worldwide awareness of the children and
your function as a parent to provide the socialization for the children and the
education for the children, instead of just producing children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does that make sense?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If it’s okay, before you answer, I’m
having a bit of a different take or reaction to the term “contractual.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Especially in the context of
sustainability, because normally when we think of contractual, we think of
legal, a contract, the legality, the signing of the contract.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My intuitive sense is that the contract
underlies a sustainable marriage, in particular with respect to the raising and
caring of children, to whatever age.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It’s based not on law, but will be based on a covenant, a promise from
the heart, based upon two people who see Christ within each of them, and Christ
within the child and make a commitment, a covenant to raise that child as one of
God’s “critters.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Not necessarily
with any legal documents or sworn statements or anything that goes along with
it—contractual yes, but contractual at the level of love, trust—all based upon
the notion of oneness and Christ within—being able to see and sense and know
completely <I>know</I> in your heart the presence of Christ, that all of that
context gives rise potentially to a balance—physically, emotionally, and
mentally—that doesn’t exist in today’s unsustainable marriage.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Daniel:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay, Sondjah is going to answer the
questions now.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To answer your questions, societies do
not have a soul; individuals do.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[This is Daniel:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The two questions from two different
people —that doesn’t work for me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
need one question and an answer, and the contexts were very different.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s not a criticism, it’s just a
procedural one.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your question had
to do with where do we start?]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Cayce:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yeah, basically where do we start
because everything is so out of control? </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The concern of the Creator, the First
Source and Center, is with the individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Out of billions of inhabited worlds, and trillions of sentient,
soul-filled individuals, the Creator’s concern is always with his relationship
with the individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And it is
always with the individual that we begin.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Our concern for society, for civilization is secondary and tertiary.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our primary concern is always with the
individual and this is where we start.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And from the individuals, develop
families, communities, states, regions, nations, and a world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Always it begins with the
individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The quality of an
individual life dictates the quality of the civilization that will come into
existence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And how well
civilization prospers, then it prospers the individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But always, it is the individual that is
central to all our schemes, to Christ Michael’s schemes, to the Correcting Time,
and to the work of Monjoronson and this program of co-creative teams.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is where we begin.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, the individual is of primary
concern.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If this is the first point
of inquiry, then how do we design a family from which a child is begotten, from
wherein a child is socialized by two individuals, who have an agreement, an
arrangement, a moral and spiritual contract with this new entity, this new soul
coming into existence?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For parents
are truly co-creative and <I>co-responsible</I> for the endearing, growing,
engendering of the spiritual quality of the soul of this child during their
formative years.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is primary to
all the work that we will do in the co-creative teams.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It always must reach to the individual
and point towards the larger social entities.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Your statements, which were
numerous, will force us and force you to engage many, many primary questions,
which have been neglected and swept under the rug of your societies and your
nations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Public policies are
bereft, backward and ignorant in most of your nations, and are in need of
tremendous upliftment for your societies and nations to be sustainable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How many children should be raised by a
family?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How many children are best
raised by a couple?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For some
couples, it may be one; for others it may be five—but is that fair for
others?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must decide.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must live with the equation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the best environment for raising
children?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Two people who are
present, or both working and absent?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>No, you must decide what makes a sustainable individual, a sustainable
family.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Concerning issue of marriage, the
only contractual existence for it’s being is to socialize and raise children, so
that they can raise their children and socialize them in a like manner, so that
your communities and societies are sustainable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When families break down, so does the
moral fiber and ethical fiber of your civilizations, of your communities.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This city, which you mentioned, is
bereft, it is in chaos and those people will beget even more children, who are
left to live in the gutters and out of the trashcans.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So it is a demoralizing, debilitating,
uninhabitable soul situation for many people, who will never come to know God,
never even come to know the yearning of reaching for a higher Being, the
friendship with God, the friendship which lies essentially within
themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Families are responsible for
raising children so that they become inhabitable by the God presence, at their
early age of 4 or 5, as you’ve been taught.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must take family seriously, as
socializing, and then <I>spiritualizing social entities</I> that empower the
spiritual development of children, to become worthy adults, to be partners with
God, partners with their soul, to fill their soul then with value by social,
ethical, moral decisions, and service without the expectation of return by their
fellow brothers and sisters.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I apologize for pontificating,
but I wish you to know how essential the family is, until the time of maturation
of the child.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Families are
essential for the continuity of worlds, and your world is on the brink of
extinction, because of this problem.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are very concerned because if there were cataclysms or serious
catastrophes in your world, one after another, without recovery time, your world
would be depopulated very rapidly, and who would be left?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The children in the streets?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We certainly hope not; we hope that they
have mothers and fathers who love them and care for them, and want them to know
Christ Michael and the God within them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I hope this answers both of your questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sir?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would like to rephrase the question
succinctly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Certainly.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is it correct to conceive of what you
referred to as a contractual relationship, in something other than legal
terms?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most definitely.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have set no parameters for the design
team work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When we say
“contractual,” you may assume that this is legalese, but we do not make the same
assumption.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It may be contractual
on a much different level, as you have suggested.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Now, my assignment to you
tonight, for the next twenty minutes, is to break into three groups, and design
one sustainable marriage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may
take any marriage situation that you like, and try to devise it as a sustainable
being.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does this confuse you?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(No response.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, you have 20 min. please.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Recording turned off during this
time.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Daniel:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just for the tape’s record, we’re going
to have a representative from each group.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There are 3 groups of 3 people each, and one individual from each team
will present their findings for the next 3 minutes each.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Group 1:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We talked about a number of things.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Not relying on traditional definitions
of marriage, excepting each other with unconditional love, welcoming change in
the other person, communication, common faith and values, unexposed promises,
unconditional trust and respect.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Being spiritually in love, and exploring scenarios of upsides and
downsides and how things could change and where that would put us.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Did any others have anything significant
to add to that?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We started getting into a conversation
about how to do it different—gee, I wonder why I have that thought now?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So if you talk about real life issues,
how would you do it different?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(I
think of that in terms of my relationship with _____.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Workshops that were professionally
organized, so that you would experience things like having one day, and not
having the next, to really break through the barrier of the unannounced
expectation that the people you are today and the expectations you have of how
you are going to live and how much you are going to make, and how you’re going
to progress in life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What if that
changes?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I think you have to
have some experiential relationship to cope with that—it’s not something you
just say, “well don’t forget now, someday …?…. “ You’ve got to get at the heart;
you have to get it to work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think
that would be very constructive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
talked about 4 people who were considering a commitment to one another, with
children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We sort of go into it
with, “You are who you are today, and I am who I am today, and we’re going to go
get married on Sunday, and that’s the way things are, the way we are.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, hello?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Maybe not; maybe they’ll accelerate;
maybe they won’t.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Next group.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Group 2:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We talked about the encouragement of
each other’s paths to wholeness, as a central theme in a sustainable
marriage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This came out of
Sheralyn’s comment last week about “whole people” coming together, and we felt
that the path to wholeness is a life-long process, but that it takes special
intention, covenant, vow or pledge to <I>stay</I> with a person in their
ugliness, or their emotional over-reactions or their withdrawal, or their
running or their anger, or whatever, and so we wanted people to learn how to be
spiritually and emotionally married to each other, so that no one was ever
blamed for anyone else’s feelings, but the person who was experiencing the
feelings, could count on someone abiding with them as they worked through
them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We decided that the wisdom we had
to offer as older, non-child bearing women, is that there would be communities
of support with “elders” in intentional community. </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And we also spoke about the
elevation of the Divine Feminine to the level of the Divine Masculine, to
produce a sacred child that could serve God.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a symbolic child,
obviously.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That would be work that
would happen within each individual, as Sondjah spoke about the primary
relationship between that realm and this realm is with the individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, this is the Divine Feminine and
Divine Masculine within a person—a Divine Marriage, if you will—to then raise
the person’s aspirations to the service of God, rather than ego.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Group 3:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Basically, we talked about a lot of
similar ideas that you guys have had, and one thing that stands out is that we
would come into partnership on equal footing, where a couple would assume a role
reversal or accept role reversals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Also, if a man wants to stay home and raise the child, if he’s
impassioned about that, then that should be supported, as well as the
wife—whatever.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We spoke of values
changing to be committed to the child, and not ego; raising the child to serve
God’s purposes, and maybe education all along in that realm.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personal responsibility within the
individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would anyone like to
add something? </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sherille:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Not to be so fun to have a child and as
soon as the child is old enough to leave in daycare or leave with another
relative, so that both parents can go back to work, as if this child is just
left under the teachings of someone else, and it could be someone who is just
never going to care for the child like the parents would care for the child.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So you thought that was good or not
good?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sherille:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, I don’t think that’s good.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Anything else from your group?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We talked a little bit about going into
a relationship for having children, with a certain level of maturity and shared
values, so you know where your partner is on that line, but a lot of it was
about taking responsibility for instilling the social, ethical and moral values
for your child, yourself.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Being
there; being available.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sherille:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And prolonged education.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is everybody satisfied with that, with
his or her reports?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All this is new
turf to me!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah, where are
you?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’d like to argue with Sondjah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is that permissible?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sure, of course!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wait until he shows up.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sheralyn:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think he’s still recovering from that
Dick and Jane.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think that’s when
Sondjah left the room.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Dick and Jane?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I suggested those as names for our
hypothetical couple.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I guess the next thing would be to talk
to Sondjah, is that right?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(Yes.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have to tell you
guys, this is really a challenge to me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When I first started TRing 14 years ago, I had no idea that it would
morph into this kind of dynamic.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
was challenge enough just to go, “…uh, I think there’s somebody here that wants
to talk to me….”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This really is co-creation.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is totally dynamic.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sheralyn:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I really appreciate you sharing that
with us—it makes this authentic.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So
if Sondjah doesn’t appear?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would it
help if we all went within and joined with the merkaba?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, that’s a good idea, because when I
do close my eyes and I get centered and wait for his being here, it’s just a
matter of me being at his vibration level so he can come through, and that is
very helpful when everybody does the same thing, because your emotional energy
really raises it up.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Pause.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well my friends, you have had quite an
experience, have you not?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have
gotten to exchange personal experiences, your ideals, your values, the things
that underlie your beliefs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
have expressed in many ways your expectations for a marriage, and what this
means, and you have also projected yourself into the lives of children, who come
forth from these families.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do
we proceed now?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I will continue
to lead you in this process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We do not want you to divest
yourself of this exercise by being bored or being over-challenged by the
dithering of too many ideas, but give you a focus to work on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will now become more and more defined
in this proposition, as we go along.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I have been given a teaching plan, a design plan for presenting these
ideas to you, for in unfolding the sub-strata of ideas of sustainability in
families and society, and for raising children, and for whole individuals, you
are experiencing this co-creative process as a truly experiential process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are engaged with you for the first
time, doing this, as you are engaged as well with each other and us in this
experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We want to provide the
perspectives that you need, for designing sustainable families, for designing
sustainable relationships and marriage is included.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We want you to work on designing
sustainable relationships with children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your children may be problematic, but we are working in an ideal
situation of designing an ideally sustainable family and family relationships
between the two parents, and each parent and the child or children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the dynamics are there for you to
engage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a
process—again—that we are experiencing with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have some ideas about how to
proceed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Now the thoughts that you have
written down, the opinions, the estimations, the beginnings of a design of a
relationship, keep these in mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Do not throw them aside.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Though we may not entertain them again for a week or two, do not feel
that your thoughts and your contributions have been forgotten, for they surely
have not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These will be very
valuable for you individually, and for your teams as well.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Be prepared friends, to change teams,
and also be prepared to engage the same team repeatedly, if you have a good,
productive relationship with these individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is fully your choice—we do not
project any format or formula for a team formation, other than we hope you are
amicable and do not argue about the topics.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">For in designing a sustainable
civilization at this point, no one is right; no one has the perfect idea—we do
not either, and we are here to explore that with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will give you the assignment, which
you will engage next time, and these are the assignments.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can choose which ones you wish to
work on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may choose to work on
one or two; we would hope that you not try to engage all of them, unless you do
so in a very cursory, outlined manner, rather than in detail.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are invited to work on one with your
fellow teammates, if you wish, in detail and that too is a matter of choice.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Here are the propositions:</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">1)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Design a family relationship.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This may include “marriage” or it may
not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In any case, where children
are involved, you should think in terms of a contractual relationship, where
there is an agreed upon obligation to raise the children into the future and to
their maturity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand
this part so far?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Yes.)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">2)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There may come a “marriage” that exists
between a co-creative couple, meaning a young couple, which bears no
children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may wish to design a
relationship for them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">3)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may wish to design a “marriage” or
relationship in a couple’s relationship, after children are born, and mature,
and have left the nest.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">3)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may wish to design a “marriage”
relationship or companion relationship, between two mature individuals, who are
in their 50’s and above.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What would
this look like?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">4)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And you may wish to again, devise or
design a “marriage” relationship for those who are past retirement—70 and
above.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">So you see, “marriage” is in
quotes, it is an agreed upon relationship between two individuals, who wish to
engage the future together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may
define what that future means.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What
are the limits of termination?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How
early can they terminate; how late can they terminate; for what reasons would
they terminate the relationship?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These are truly important questions to answer.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Again, at the beginning of each
of these different relationships, engage them with this question:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>What is the intention of this
relationship, with the intention that there are obligations.</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the case of a procreation couple, the
obligations are imminent; they are paramount, they are of the acme of importance
for the maintenance of society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These things must as well be engaged in this very complex
relationship.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do not have to
answer all parameters, problems, situations, or developments for any one of
these relationships.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must
simply <B>begin by stating the intention for the relationship, for coming
together</B>.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">5)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now, you obviously must have in mind
that not everyone wants to be in a relationship—this is true.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>None-the-less, individuals are in
perennial relationship with their community, whatever that may be, and they are
always in relationship with society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><B>What are the intentions of single-hood?</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now, I do not give this as an
assignment, but only as a thought for you to engage in the future, for I am
striving to plant the seeds for future discussions, future developmental designs
in your life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I would imagine that you have
some questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would appreciate
it if you would limit your questions to clarifying questions, concerning this
assignment at this point.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Short
pause.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, you do not need to
work on this during the next week, if you do not wish to.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know however, it will be in your mind,
and you <I>will</I> work on it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
fruits of those thoughts will come forth, with your team members next week, and
you will share them and you will discuss them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must come together as a whole in
your team; you must decide upon a relationship that you want to design—this is
essential.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It makes no difference
to us which relationship you wish to begin with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I know that some of you will work
backwards; you will work backwards from the elderly relationship, backwards to
the developmental stages of human growth and maturity, to the time of marriage
and obligated relationships for child-bearing, and this is surely a good way to
proceed, for it is the easier path.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Later we will discuss the intentions of having children, and we will ask
you for the intentions that children will have for participating in a
family.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We know that this is too
much to ask of infants and children, but not too much to ask of those who are
nine and above.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You may, as this one has
suggested to you, approach the perspective from the future, looking back two
centuries, or you may take it from this moment and look forward and striving
through your ignorance and your personal experiences, how to devise a
sustainable relationship.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
not an easy task for you to do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Very few of your world leaders in political realms or even scientists
have engaged these questions in this way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There are academic studies that have been completed, which would be of
assistance to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are
related studies by the hundreds that relate to specific aspects of this
question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There has been much
research done.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can engage this
later, and we will assist you to do so, in weeks to come.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would hope that you, though it is the
Holidays next week and the week following, that you would strive to reconvene
and engage these questions with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(Turned tape.)</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Before we adjourn, I am open to
all questions, no matter what the concern or issue that you may have.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah, it seems like there is
something of a paradox.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On the one
hand, we are encouraged to appreciate the challenge of over-population, and yet
we are engaging in assignments, which would hopefully result in more
population—but of a different quality and sustainability.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Exactly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the issue, and the population
problem that you have mentioned, courses throughout all issues that we will be
speaking of.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This over population
of your planet is of paramount importance, but it is not a problem that we can
solve, or that you can solve.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
something that will be resolved in time, only through difficult stretches of
existence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The concern is as you
have said so succinctly and nicely, you have said that yes we are engaging the
prospect of raising more children, but of <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">quality</I>, and this is the essential
ingredient for a sustainable future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Those individuals, who are not sustainable, let us not worry about them
at this time.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah, I have one more question, and
we can defer it, if appropriate, but intuitively, as I think about these many
initiatives as we might undertake in the co-creative design effort, across the
spectrum of issues we’ve discussed, whether it’s wellness and health, or whether
it’s economic issues or agriculture on the regional or local level, or etc., all
of them would seem to me to necessitate starting, as you said earlier, with the
individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And starting with the
individual, connecting with spirit, with presence, however one would express
that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So I for one, would love to
have dialog in the future, about that topic—us today, parents in the future,
children in particular, connecting with presence, since that would seem to me to
be the key to anything sustainable.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are most certainly right, and
without individuals connected to presence, to God presence, to the presence
within themselves and the presence of others, then our work is for naught.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our work here is in the engagement
between mortals and celestial and angelic beings, with the God presence among
us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an important aspect and
this is part of the centering, which occurs early in the meeting.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We would wish, hope, and encourage you
to engage with the presence of spirit, outside of these moments here, in these
evenings that we spend together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
is vital to do this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have
raised an important part, an aspect of all the sustainable work that we will do
co-creatively together, but always there must be given the acceptance of the
individual, as primary, but in relationship to the Creator, to the God presence
within them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is sustainability
into the infinite future of the individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To design sustainable civilizations
without considering sustainable souls in the afterlife and their progress
towards Paradise in the infinity of time, is a useless endeavor, and we
certainly appreciate your point of view.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Other questions?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Cayce:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would it be recommended to continue this
exploration in the group that we are in, or should we contact each other in the
entire group?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is your
recommendation?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is your choice; we have no
recommendation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We feel, however,
that in the larger group, you will simply share your opinions, which may
fertilize the other teams.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Productivity will come from committed teams of individuals who will work
on one idea until they have something on paper, which is something they can be
proud of and which will accomplish the goals they have set out to
accomplish.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you.)</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>From a procedural standpoint, a process
standpoint, would it be beneficial if we were to circulate to all those present,
the list of assignments and ask people to respond to one or two that they were
specifically interested in, and then let everyone know, who was interested in
what, so they could, on their own, figure out how to work together?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, please, that would be most
advantageous and help prepare for future meetings.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would someone please accept
responsibility for this small chore?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would be happy to do that, although I
will need some help—unless someone else would like to do it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not sure I got…oh, thanks, I got my
help already; we’re on the way!</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Excellent.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will close now but will entertain one
further question, if there is any?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(None.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your
time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have engaged this with
far more enthusiasm than we had anticipated.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your eagerness is palpable to us; we
feel the kindling of energy occurring in your hearts and your bodies and your
minds—and some of your minds are quite literally dancing with ideas.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We appreciate your enthusiasm and we
also appreciate your tolerance for ambiguity at this very early stage.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Definition will come as we have
experience and we become more acquainted with how to proceed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You too have ideas about how to proceed,
as this one has suggested.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please
do not be shy or timid to share your ideas, which can assist our productivity
for the future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We wish you well; we look forward
to meeting with you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also know dear
friends, that you may call upon us at any moment, even now as you depart.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Take a moment or two to speak with your
guardian who is with you, to your higher self, and to your guides, for
assistance during the week as you work on these problems, these situations,
these designs, for they have oftentimes, good ideas which can be given to you
wordlessly or with words.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish
you well in all your good relationships.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We pray, hope, and know that they are sustainable in the infinity of
time, through the grace of our Creator.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Good night.</P>
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