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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Evergreen/Conifer Co-Creative
Design Team, #26</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Evergreen, Colorado</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Celestial Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Sondjah Melchizedek</B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Topics:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Individual perspective: Feedback,
assessment & appraisal</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
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</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Self-participation</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
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</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Team process</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Effectiveness</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Productivity</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personal growth</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amendments to
program since its inception</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Group
invitations to Monjoronson</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hypothesis for
the purpose of this Design Team</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Creating
solutions, not solving problems</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Interactive
process</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>July 28, 2008</FONT></H1>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Welcome my friends, to another
evening together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is good to be
with you and to rejoin our efforts together consciously.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Sondjah and I am here to be with
you this evening for several regards.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The first of which—and I wish you to address me later in this
presentation—is to provide us with your assessment of your participation within
the team, your assessment of the team process and the effectiveness
assessment—your assessment of the effectiveness of the team, the team process,
and yourselves to move forward and to be productive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This has nothing to do with
criticism, simply an appraisal, feedback to us.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are in touch with you on many levels;
we are in this regard, observers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We care not so much about what you are thinking and how you are
processing information during the team process, but how you participate, how you
provide yourself to others and to the team and to the work that we are doing,
and how you are effective within your own right, and how you are growing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We can observe many things, but we wish
to have your own assessments of what is going on in the group, from your
individual perspective.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is my
wish—our wish, collective wish—that you individually would provide some feedback
on these different topics, which I have suggested.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As you know, this one is going be
the presenter at San Miguel De Allende, Mexico, at the developing a sustainable
world workshop, and we wish to have an assessment before he leaves, so we can
make adjustments during the workshop.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Those of you who attended the workshop at Snowbird last year in October,
know how the program changed during the hours it was in existence.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We amended the program as necessary for
it to be more effective, and we wish to do that too, this time, if
necessary.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We come up with a much
better product, process, and development, with your active contribution, your
conscious contribution.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Please note that we will be in
touch with you as you present your views about the team, its process and your
participation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will give us
information on several levels, besides your words that we wish to assess.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not covert about this, but simply
wish you to know how we operate and that we do not violate your thinking at any
time, but simply may tap into it, when you are in contact with us, which is the
dialog that goes on in the morontia realm, when you have conversations with
others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is conversation and
there are many levels of interaction that go on between you, just as you
understand verbal and non-verbal body language communication, so too do
morontial beings understand the connotation and intention of those that they are
in conversation with, on many levels.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Those of you, who have begun in
the beginning in October, now have spent approximately ten months involved in
the Co-Creative Design Team process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You have much more knowledge and awareness about what is occurring than
anyone else on the planet, as far as a mortal is concerned.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have provided tremendous
contributions to this process, as we have said repeatedly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We truly want you to appreciate what you
have done, without getting a “swollen head” or embellishing your
self-importance, but you truly have made significant contributions to the work
of Monjoronson, for the Co-Creative Design Team process and the Working Team
process, which you have not begun, but which works in a similar manner.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am here on Monjoronson’s behalf
to tell you and share with you, his appreciation for your willingness to come
together as a group to ask him questions about issues that you had in doubt, or
which seemed ambiguous to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
is a very legitimate means by which other groups can come to invite Monjoronson
to their group to speak with them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>By this notice, Monjoronson is inviting other teams throughout the world,
to come to conscious group connection between each other, to determine your
questions, examine your questions and then invite Monjoronson to answer them at
your next session.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those of you
here, do you understand this invitation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(Yes.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is it ambiguous?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(No.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We want this to be clear to the readers
of these transcripts, throughout the world, that Monjoronson is available when
they have questions from the group.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This does not negate or abrogate the possibility and the potential
probabilities that he will be in contact with individuals, who have questions to
him directly in their reverie, in their meditations.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Are there questions now from the
members on any topic that we have worked on in the last 10 months?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Pause.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may take a few moments, and later we
will examine any potential questions that you have.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would now appreciate receiving inputs
from members of the team, beginning on this one’s left.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, please provide us your feedback,
your assessment and appraisal about the team, the process and its effectiveness,
that you have experienced thus far.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Please.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Michael.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A few observations and maybe a
recommendation or two:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My sense is
that we would be… what we’ve learned from experience is that we could be more
productive, if we hold sessions which are totally committed to the work,
whatever the assignment might be.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>In this case of course, lately it has been the educational system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think if we were to have say, a
two-hour session, where that’s really the work we did, and we had materials
available that we could refer to, materials from what would now be the web site
and the model that John put together for us, I think we could make much more
progress, more rapidly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not
that the TRing is not of value, and the questions and answers are indeed of
value, but I think a concentrated work effort would get a lot more done, a lot
more quickly, I think.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would
probably raise more discerning questions in the process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Secondly, I think there is great
value in considering—although there is more work to it—recording the whole
discussion that takes place, not just the TRing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The TRing has been incredibly positive,
and the feedback has been great, and the encouragement has been terrific, but
there’s been a lot of that, and we still struggle with trying to capture what
was asked, presented and discussed and determined, in the discussion, between
the participants.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now we tried to
record the session that way, and got a little operator failure, but I think
there is merit to that, if it can be transcribed—something of that length.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And again, I think better use of
the recording tool of the model that John put together, so that we can have
ready updates to that, and have the output of that available for review, either
prior to coming to a session, or during the first part of a working session.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And the last suggestion I would
put on the table for consideration, is using one or more of the sessions where
you [Daniel,] will be absent, to do what I’ve just described, which is having a
working session, not getting into the TRing necessarily, or trying to—most of us
are either reluctant to do that, or are darn new to it, and I’m not sure that
that is the best use of our time.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Daniel—thank you.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think the sessions have been extremely
beneficial and I like the format and feel we have a very cohesive group, and we
are getting a lot, as we go through each topic.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Questions are coming to people that need
to be answered, and they benefit the whole group.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The nice part is that the questions
continue on after we leave here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
feel that Spirit has brought new people to the group that are contributing to
the benefit of the topic, our understanding of the topic, and we can also
benefit the people who are coming to the group.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I feel like we are growing; it’s been a
good growing experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At first
we started out talking about relationships, and now we are talking about
particularly teaching young people, and I benefit from the discussion because I
have a grandson now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are just
very close and I feel the benefit I’ve gotten from this group and from John’s
teachings, benefited our relationship, so if it can work here, it can work else
where as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My particular topic,
we haven’t gotten into yet—my particular area of most interest, and that is
community development—and that’s okay.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>That will come when it needs to, but I’ve found out that one of the
members of our group is into that very much, and I feel the doors are going to
be opening along those lines, in fact they’ve already started opening along
those lines.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the only real
question I have is I feel we are getting the benefit, I know that Monjoronson is
working around the world, and I hope he is working with groups that may seem to
be antagonistic to our way of life, and can bring a better feeling of love
between us and those other groups.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have any recommendations?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yeah, reach the Imams over in Iran,
particularly—I think there has been something—it’s happened in Iraq—it’s
noticeable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The country is starting
to come together.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can you keep it on the topic,
please?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick</B>:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, you asked about other locations,
and I just brought up where I feel it needs to be, in answer to your question,
but no, the benefit I feel has been tremendous.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristen:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think my role is just “cheerleader and
encourager.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m new and still
learning, no real …(not audible)….<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>[Note:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She was visiting and
came to the group with her mother.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How about an encouraging assessment to
process?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristen:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To what degree?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As far as for the sustainable
education?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, you could use that as an
example.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The team process?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The working process?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristen:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think the team in general is on a good
track, as far as knowing where they want to go; it’s just finding a final
direction and staying on that to a finished product, but that’s the hard part of
anything.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s the final stage, so
it’s a challenge for everybody.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you think of anything, we’re going to
have two rounds here, in case you think of anything that comes up.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, I haven’t been involved from the
beginning and have been inconsistent, but from the time that I’ve been here,
it’s been really insightful and helped me to clear the cobwebs and think about
things, and contribute… I think what Michael suggested as far as having possibly
a two-hour session, where you just really get down and work, I think that would
really be beneficial.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we are just looking for the points of
creating a sustainable education, that that’s what we are supposed to be here
for, and working on right now—understanding that the topic can change—I feel
like we need more structure, but I’m a structure person, [into] organization.
What happened last week?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What
happened the week before?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t
know how to use John’s web site, but we need more of a running tally of what was
done, what progress was made, what are the beliefs—do we have them down?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are the values that go with
that? And the criteria?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And have it
in a form, where we can go back and we can change, we can add, we can do
whatever we need to do, to develop it into a complete piece of work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think we need to stay on topic, is
another thing.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s the hardest thing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are all guilty of going off topic,
including myself.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, being a new guy brought in, and I
am honored to be plugged into the group.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>As you know, I’ve been brought in because of my passion toward that
[which] I’ve created.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am really
honored that it’s being considered by this group.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m really grateful for the input, the
feedback—certainly the help that I’ve gotten in editing—and I just look forward
to the whole, gaining momentum and getting work done.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>[Ed. Patrick has written a manual for
teaching children happiness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His
web site is: <A href="http://www.kidscandoanything.com/"><FONT
color=#800080>www.KidsCanDoAnything.com</FONT></A> ]</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As a recent newcomer you do not have
much experience with this group, but on a scale of 1 to 10, could you rate the
effectiveness of the group?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think I have to gain a clearer
understanding myself of the real “meat” of the mission, of the group.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand the idea of sustainable
education for children, but the real “meat” behind that, and the implementing of
those ideas, the “taking action” part, that I’m looking forward to
discover.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On a scale, I would say a
7 out of 10.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>David:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I certainly enjoy the group and the
fellowship.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not sure that I
have any more understanding what I’m doing here now than I did 6 months
ago.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not sure that I’m well
geared to address that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s
certainly different than what I’m doing for a living, and the lack of concrete
results is simply foreign to me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They say we’re doing a good job—I’ll take them at their word and pass it
back to Michael.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The evaluation so far, hasn’t excluded
my performance as facilitator.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
want you to know that’s on the table too.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If I were to rate the effectiveness of
the group, it would be closer to a 4 or 5.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>That’s not intending to be negative, it’s just that I think what David
says resonates very well with me, and with what Deb said resonates with me.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m much more task oriented.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can conceptualize and strategize and
visualize, and everybody knows I can go there, but at the end of the day, I want
to know that we accomplished something. And when we come back next week, as Deb
was saying, I’d like to know what it was that we accomplished and have it in
front of me, in an approachable, accessible way, so we can go right from there
to what’s next.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Here’s where we
left off, what do we do next?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
think that the way the process is worked, hasn’t lent itself to that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We literally do not see each
other or talk about this for the most part, until we get here on Monday
nights.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s why I think our
working session might have some merit to get us focused, and we can look at how
do we….<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Deb’s experience of not
being able to feel comfortable about using the web site is going to become
[something that] some people are going to shy away from, so the task is not to
become a webmaster.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The task is how
do we capture the data and make it accessible and approachable and usable to
everyone, so they don’t have to go learn a new skill set, or fiddle around with
a computer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think that can be
done, so I think we’ve on the right track.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In terms of your facilitation,
I’ve been extremely pleased with your facilitation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I get a little bit … “frustrated” may
not be the right word, but I guess my appetite for clarity is not always
fulfilled when questions are responded to by Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And that’s probably to be expected,
because we are living in two different places.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also, I keep shying away from reading
the text of that large book over there [referring to The Urantia Book], but I’m
comfortable with that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t
think it’s anything that’s thrown me way off, but the last question/answer
session I think went a long way for me in terms of clarity—it probably didn’t go
as far as I’d like, but you know, I think it’s an exciting process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Certainly nothing I’ve ever done
before.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I’ve never been in an experience
like this either.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t know who
has, but it’s been very different.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Dick?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have to say your facilitation has been
excellent.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Daniel:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve gotten a lot out of these sessions,
but I think what was just mentioned, I don’t think we have a way of evaluating
ourselves, our own process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I
think maybe part of that is my fault.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I’ll take responsibility for my part of it, but I’m learning a lot, and I
like working with the group—it’s a good group to work with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They’ve got a lot of different ideas
that come out of it, and a lot of questions have been answered.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The topics themselves, haven’t
particularly turned me on, but that’s alright; I’m here to learn, and I think
they’ve helped me grow.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">One of the things I’d like to
know, If Monjoronson cares to elaborate on it, is to give us a little more
measurable information about how this Teaching Mission is being given throughout
the world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s one thing for us to
sit here, maybe a lot of it is being done throughout our country, but how much
is being done throughout the world?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>That’s one of the things I’d like to get a feel for.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Anything additional, Kristin?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristen:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, I’m very new—I usually do not come
to these, but I think that a lot of people are task oriented, and I guess how I
always work on projects is, “What is the main goal?” “ What’s the goal that you
guys are set out to do?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“Is there
a defined result that’s been set out?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(Daniel:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Not really.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve always worked with “what am I
working to do?” and I set tasks to accomplish that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If some of those tasks I can help out
with, I’m more than happy to volunteer my time and effort to doing that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But for me, it’s “Kris, I need you to
edit this,” or “Put this in the web site,” or as far as that goes, I’ve offered
to help out in that area, but I don’t know how to develop something, if there’s
not a main goal in mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t
know what that is, like if I get the …?…, or something ambiguous like, “What are
you working to do?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this like
brainstorming, like you do before something, or are you still in the
brainstorming stage and just shooting out ideas?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or, I just don’t know how to focus my
attention toward something unless there is set goal and maybe tasks in doing
that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just like if you want to
write a research paper—“What are you writing it about?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What’s your thesis?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How are you going to answer that?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, what is the thesis of the
group?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s just kind of how I
look at it.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those are some good questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Very good questions!</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristin:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And how does it contribute to
apparently…?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not really
conscious of if there are other groups like us, working toward something.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are we working on the same thing?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is everyone working on something
different?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How does it come
together?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are we just doing the
same thing somebody else is doing?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Are we spinning our wheels, or are we all working on something that’s
going to be cohesively put together into one thing?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Very succinct.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[The group erupted with laughter
and chatter, saying they won’t let her go back to college.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristin:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Even if it’s not working toward
something, I like being here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
guys are cool to hang out with.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There are only good feelings here and beneficial attitudes going on,
so….</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Linda?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ll second on that!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I love coming here; I love the group,
but again, it’s kind of like Deb was saying, I’m really the same sort of, “What
are we doing?” and what did we do last week?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can we build on that?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I’m the same way—I’d like to see it
on paper, I’d like to go back and refer to it, and then progress from that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the same that everybody else was
saying, I think and I feel the same way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I come up from Lakewood—it’s not that big of a deal because we get to
“walk—but I think that if I could see something progressing, I would be much
more excited about digging in and doing what we’re doing.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay, good.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think if we could see some graphing,
taking a structure, and you could easily see what you’ve done, where you had
been, you’d be more likely to think about it during the week, and form ideas and
thoughts about [where] to go from here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So, I’m kind of with Michael on the 4 or 5’ish level.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think we can change that.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And [as for] the facilitator, I
like our facilitator!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Daniel:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, thank you.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The only suggestion I have in [regard
to] facilitation is that sometimes you are just too nice.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When it gets like “crazy off track,” I
think you need to “bang on that thing” a little more, and if we all agree to
know what the “banging on the chime” means, it would just bring our attention
back to getting in focus, getting back on track.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>[Note:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel has a timer that has a soft chime
sound, to gently end a meditation, or mark a set time for discussion, and so
on.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I came into this already possessing a
passion and a permission, so again, it’s kind of like plugging into, or
providing whatever I’ve got that works for whatever your mission is… if it
works, then great!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s what I’m
here to help out with.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You’re here for a reason, that’s for
sure—for many reasons.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I totally feel that.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>David:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I agree that you are a great
facilitator.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I also concur with Michael, Kristin,
Linda, and Deb—pretty much everything they said.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we were building a house, you’d see
some progress.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We’d know where to
step so as not to step into the concrete.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>As Zigler said, “It ain’t a goal if you can’t see it.”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Based upon that input, it raises some
questions that I had.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We could
discuss it here, or we can [go to] Sondjah, or…?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My take is that he’s fully prepared to
engage these questions and what you have presented, and answer a number of
Kristin’s questions.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve had a hypothesis that either it’s
full of water, or hot air… or something.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It needs to be adjusted, based upon what I’ve heard.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have a hypothesis?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, should I say it succinctly?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Him [meaning Patrick] being here is not
an accident; we know that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I
believe the reason he’s here is to give us focus on implementation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You take the real thing in the real
world today, but you’re leaping over all the existing infrastructure, artifacts,
boulders, blockades and bureaucracy, to get to the heart of a meaningful thing,
and to build self-esteem and so forth, with kids.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think that with whatever work we do
here has to take on the notion of how we ever implement it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In parallel with that, my thought
was that to fill in the blanks for some here, that the context is that we are
going to get an opportunity sometime in the future, according to a whole lot of
celestial beings and spiritual writers, to kind of do a re-start—like you
“re-boot your system.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The re-boot
won’t be in the context of the existing infrastructure of society and culture,
and if that’s true then we don’t just go off to school on the yellow bus in the
morning. To use the example of education, what would it look like to go to
school?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What would school look
like?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What would you teach?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How much bureaucracy and administrative
support, and reporting, and funding, and collaboration?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And… how much is home schooling, and how
much is [by the] community group?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>All that is implementation, in the context of a re-start.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s what I got out of a history of
Monjoronson’s work, and then all the other things we’ve been reading.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If that’s wrong, then I don’t know where
we go from there, because if that’s the context, then we can say, “Okay, we have
an objective.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At some point in
time—and maybe that’s the wrong word—we’re going to have an opportunity for a
re-start.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our objective is to be
ready, with enough thought put into some of these cultural, social,
institutional re-designs, that we can kick that up and move forward—whatever the
re-start climate and environment might look like at the time, which I don’t
pretend to speculate.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your hypothesis is correct.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a long-term project and we are
here scratching the dirt with them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So, if you’re ready?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>SONDJAH:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Sondjah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your thoughtful
comments.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We know that they come
from deep within you, and that you have shared yourselves in these thoughts at
the deepest level of your sincerity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We appreciate your concerns and your contributions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have raised many points, and if I
have missed some, please ask them again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I am not going to ignore your questions at all, but want to address every
issue that you have presented here, within the last 20 minutes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">First of all, this is a long-term
project, as Michael has mentioned to you, that this is initiation of
re-designing a society, that you have the plans/designs in place for a future
time when your society will be re-booted, when there is a calamity or collapse
or some situation that makes it possible for you to re-invent your social
institutions very rapidly, without chaos.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Simply it will collapse and you will present these designs, and there
will be sensibility, where there is chaos.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Therefore, these plans will be seen, admired, respected, and implemented.
</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As far as implementing them now
is concerned, that is not an issue; that could be in 5 years, it could be in 50
years, or a 100 years.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It depends
on the situation that develops in your world that creates and brings about the
possibility of your re-booting of your society.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We have begun with relationships
as a means by which you can engage a topic that is interesting to you, of which
you are not experts, but of which you have many opinions, many thoughts and much
experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It was a means by which
we could engage you and gain your interest, your contributions, and for you to
engage each other in a productive manner.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This truly is an experiential
process for us as well as for you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You may feel that you are fumbling around, and that you have produced
little, but we measure contributions and productivity in a much different
manner.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We measure it in terms of
your abilities to work together, and to work towards productivity, to engage
your minds with cooperation for creating solutions, rather than solving
problems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You are truly creating solutions
to individual groups and celestial interaction.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an interactive process on
several levels, one of which you have never engaged in on an active basis
before.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are an experiential
group; you are an experimental group; you are a developmental group; you are all
those things simultaneously.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
may feel you are fumbling around, but that is simply part of the process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are now eager to bite into something
more sustainable for your own group’s productivity, and this too is an inherent
aspect of an important product of our work, is that you find a process to
sustain your activities here, where you individually are so interested that you
think about it during the week and come together next week, ready in hand to
make another contribution, and so it goes.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">This is something new for us, as
well as for you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You truly are the
only ongoing, productive team at this time that is engaging these processes
simultaneously, with a celestial/spiritual consultant.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are others who are interested in
this, others who have begun, but none who have taken the reins as you have.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not for lack of interest, it is
actually a lack of perspective on the individual’s part and their places within
it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of you expect results so
soon, so immediately, and these have been slow in forthcoming.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I will now, not challenge you,
but offer you the opportunity to devise a process among you for objectively,
measurably producing results with each meeting.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish you to use—solely use—Patrick
McMillan’s material on developing, engendering happy children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a distant subset of
sustainability, within sustainable individuals, families and sustainable
education.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a crossover
between family dynamics, community dynamics and educational dynamics.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You need not be concerned about that—I
only offer you a diagram for you to understand where this sits and how it is
relative to a sustainable education.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Sustainable education’s purpose is to develop a sustainable individual,
in a sustainable community, in a sustainable world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is all circular.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 2">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 2">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: red"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Happiness is a measure of the
achievement of sustainability for an individual, meaning that they find
satisfaction and happiness, being attached to goals of their own, being attached
to goals of a higher nature for themselves and for their world, in the part of a
larger picture.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is what you
are to do, and this may be slow-going, but it is very definitive and very
determinative and confined.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Patrick’s material is published; it is known.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We wish you to go within that
document—those documents—to determine and to ascertain and identify the
underlying beliefs of that document.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><SPAN style="mso-tab-count: 1"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 2">
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: red"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You will then trace that back to
at least the three elemental values of sustainability, of life, of equality and
growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may discover other
elemental values, which are essential to creating happy individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will then develop a listing of
expectations, for each of those beliefs, and with each expectation, you would
have measurable performance standards for them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is very clear; this is very
defined; it is very definitive; it is very contained, and you will find all
those answers within those documents.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Now the purpose of this is
several-fold:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is that you will
have an existent object of sustainability, which is clearly defined.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have clear goals in mind that you
are to achieve, and in doing so, you will achieve two other things, and I want
you to—this is part of your work before you begin doing this—is to determine how
you will work together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who will do
what?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who will write on the
board?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who will read the
material—and you will all read the material, which I would suggest you do—but
you will have a process of procedure within your group for defining your
results, for achieving your results.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>“If we do this, we will get this, and we will write that down.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may, simultaneously, if your group
is large enough, to have one or two individuals working simultaneously on a
laptop computer, connected to the web site, where you can input that data almost
simultaneously as the work is done on the white board.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You have set up yourselves a good
piece of work, but it is very elemental.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is essential to your group, and it is essential to all other groups
that form after yours.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are
truly moving forward in a slow, plodding, exploratory method, finding your way
through the thickets, through the valley, and to over the paths into a new
land.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are pioneers, as we have
said many times.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have immense
expertise in doing this work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
is truly a simple organizational task, with very definite outcomes to
achieve.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would be most happy to
confer with you anytime you wish.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This one will be out of the country until the 17<SUP>th</SUP> of August,
and will be available on the 18<SUP>th</SUP>, which is a Monday of your next
meeting that he will be able to attend.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If you have someone who can TR myself, or someone in this capacity, you
are most welcome to invite them, to invite me to do so.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not facetious—I do invite you to
try.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>By the absence of this one,
you will truly have the opportunity to devote your time to this work, and to the
chores at hand.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I know that I have been speaking
extensively here, answering many questions, though I feel that there are several
questions, [concerning]<SPAN style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>situations which I have
not addressed, that you raised during your analysis.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you have them now, please bring them
to me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Pause.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If, on the other hand, I have covered
all your topics of interest and questions, then please as well say so, so that
we can move ahead.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think we are okay.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Sondjah:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do not need to be shy to direct the
facilitator in how he can be more effective to assist you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your recommendations are noted; he has
noted them and may be more aggressive in his facilitation and discipline of the
team.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now, I release you, until you call me
back.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good evening.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Thank you from the group.)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We could get him a ruler!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Laughing.)</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now do you want to take a break and
think about that?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Come back and
start—because he gave you some thoughtful things to chew on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s 7:34.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or do you just want to leap into it?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Some comments were inaudible—too
many talking at once.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What’s missing from the group is that no
one has hired you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No one has given
you a work plan.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No one has given
you any sales projections and goals and contacts.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You’re basically developing your own
inner organization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Their concerns
are that by having someone appointed as the/a leader, or as “The” leader, then
everybody kind of defers and then when things go down the toilet, they say,
“Well, why didn’t you do something?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So in this case, they truly do not want to do that; they want [us] to
develop a small team, sustainable, organizational process.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we look at our purpose as to practice
being a co-creative design team, I think we’ve succeeded, because we work well
together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t really think we
need a disciplinarian, if we start to get off track a little bit.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think there are a lot of thoughts that
are generated, that individuals have to express, and then we can go on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we go way off track, then that’s
another thing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, I think
there are a lot of good thoughts and ideas that come from different people, at
different times, and I’d like to encourage those to continue.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What I’ve seen about that, is that if
you have a diagram, you start with a topic and then [jump] to a related topic,
and to [another] related topic—then there is no relationship any more to this
one [meaning first topic}.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Dick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well if that happens, then …</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve seen that repeatedly.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I agree with the process; now we
need to have an organization; we need to have a means of producing.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’d like to offer Kristen to do the
input to the web site.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Seriously!</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristin:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Oh, did I offer to do that?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You said, actually, “I’d be happy
to.”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And I’d be happy to help with that,
because if we get the discipline—which we’ve been doing—forwarding your notes,
then I can, in a sense, distill them and feed them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we were to feed them to you, then you
could update the web site, and then we can experiment, which we haven’t done,
with how do you print anything out of that thing?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In addition, how do you get something
out of there that’s useable?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
think some of it would be exploratory, but I’m sure we could do it.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My take on the site is that it is right
now, elemental.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We need to fumble
ahead and find out how to expand it, without causing too much retro damage.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">So, can we move on to working
team process, for working on this?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I mean we have the perfect “kernel” and that’s Patrick’s material.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It needs a kernel.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s a whole piece, and we’re going to
do the opposite.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They gave me a
piece of material last year, last September/October, before the workshop, and it
had to do with inductive and deductive reasoning.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We will use Patrick’s material and
“deduce,” like Mr. Watson, and his cohort detective, what the beliefs are.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How did he come to this?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How did this come together?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are the underlying beliefs?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Nowhere in Patrick’s material do I see a
bulleted list of beliefs that underlie his material.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or the values.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or the expectations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He has the performance criteria,
right?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think in terms of expectations, my own
personal belief anyway, is that what I expect an individual to “get” from my
program is an increased level of optimism.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>In the case of children, an increased level of resilience, an increased
level of compassion, of gratitude, ….</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Excuse me for a minute.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That had been on the criteria set.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we make it that?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How does it show up?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, let’s say we are finished with
Patrick’s material, and we have the values; we discovered a couple more values
that underlie it; we found some associated values.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And then we have a list of beliefs; we
have a long list of expectations, and we have a long list of criteria.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now this is an example that people can
go, “Oh, I’ve got it!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now let’s go
to healthcare.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who has a document like Patrick’s in
healthcare?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, we have some
“finders,” some researchers, who go out and try to find whole health kernels of
wisdom, as Patrick’s is related to ….</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoFooter style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in">[Note:
Transcriber has trouble telling Linda and Deb’s voices apart at times.]</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda (?):</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What do you mean by healthcare?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are you talking about mental health?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All healthcare.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What would a sustainable healthcare
system look like?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Oh, I see where
you are coming from.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore,
what we are doing is showing people:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Here’s a document.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Here’s
the outline.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now you can apply this
overlay to another field.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Okay?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, you [Patrick]
showed up because you have a “whole” business, and we’re going to dissect
it.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Deb (?):</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, kind of you want to draw—I’m just
trying to clarify how to do this—you want to draw from Patrick’s—obviously his
systems are working, so you want to put a process to that, or out here you may
want to …?… his material?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just to
have the outline, so you can take anything, and put it in that process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And Patrick’s would be a great
example:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Here’s the process, look
how it fits in there.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Right.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is show and tell.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then people can go out there and find
this document, and find this document, and find that document, and then plug it
into the same process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You might go
through a hundred-page thesis or manuscript, and you might find only two
underlying beliefs!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But if they
contribute to the end sustainable project, suck them out and use them.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That makes a lot of sense, yeah.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A parallel would be:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We started a couple of meetings ago to
pull out beliefs, right?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And one of
the beliefs—roughly recalling—that every child has the right to learn.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a healthcare, as an example, in
holistic healthcare model, you might say that every person has the right to be
healthy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I mean, so what we are
trying to do is develop the skill-set to identify the beliefs inherent in your
work, and we can go from there, all the way down to criteria, and we do the same
thing in parallel in many other enterprises, as you were saying.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a perfect model.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The belief is that happy children are
productive individuals, become happy, productive individuals as adults.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And healthy individuals are productive,
sustainable contributors to a healthy community and a healthy society, both on a
physical basis and mental health, and social health, and emotional health.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore, those are the underlying
beliefs, that everybody has maybe a “right” or “access” to healthcare
services.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A “right” and an “access.”</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because they have an inherent
contribution to make, or on the other hand, what we are seeing is people have an
inherent—what’s the opposite of contribution, [parasitic?]<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>where they draw on the resources of
society, without contributing to the society’s good?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So by pro-actively engaging sustainable
projects, in the end, when this time comes, we’ll have a means by which we can
institute or enliven these designs in our society.</P>
<P class=MsoFooter
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">And I think, by us working on
this within our organization to fuss through the process of how do we design in
our team, a working process to produce results, is now what’s on the table.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And then we can get to your work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does that make sense?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I mean, we can work on his material, and
simultaneously work on the [Co-Creative] Working Team process, of how to become
productive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In this regard, I don’t
have much advice for you, because we have people who have been doing this all
their professional life.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So now what are we going to do?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who’s going to make us an outline,
before we start going?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristin:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think the outline pretty much already
exists, if you just go through Patrick’s material and kind of add or subtract a
few things, but obviously, the whole… it may take a little bit of work.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, is this where we want to start next
week?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is with Patrick’s
document?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And do you have a
specific to start with?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
grown-ups?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Everybody should be on the same
page.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Debbie:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s what I’m thinking..) and
everybody should read 5 pages.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Seriously, I’m not going to be here, but … (Debbie:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do we look at the grown-ups first?)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You’re going to look at all of it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Debbie:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m talking about to start.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yeah, to start.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Friday the 8<SUP>th</SUP>, for a couple
of hours, I’ve got a presentation to the PTA, and I was going to record it, just
because it’s not going to be written out and I’m not reading it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m just going to let it flow, I think,
and maybe not [go] too deep.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And in
that too, I may be able to pull out some… (Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Which school?)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Elk Creek.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So which document should the team start
with?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personally, I would say the grown-ups,
because it gives details of everything that’s in the children’s.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Debbie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s what I was feeling like.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During the channeling, what were the
three keys that he asked us to pull out of Patrick’s document?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or the main keys?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">[Everyone talking at once.]</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Kristin:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Life, equality and growth?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda(?):</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>…the underlying beliefs of expectations
and measurable performance.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of these things will be between the
lines.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You’re going to read between
the lines, because the beliefs are inherent in context.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I offered a few weeks ago—and I still
think it’s correct, unless someone wants to say otherwise, which is fine—that to
start with values just gets us in muck and mire, because the beliefs can apply
to every other value.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So starting
with something that’s in the grown-up guide, you say, “Uh, that’s a belief,
great,” let’s go to identifiable beliefs, and then go back and say, if that’s a
belief—that every kid has a right to learn, or whatever—then what’s the
expectation?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If a child can learn,
what do you expect that to look like, exactly?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the real world? Oh, it looks like the
kid is mastering the material on whatever level, on a very steady basis, no
interruptions, etc.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Great!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What’s the performance?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What’s the measurable criteria?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, that they will be able to absorb
the material and move on at a steady pace, that looks like this:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>X number of things per….</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Now the challenge in designing a
system, or of dissecting a system like that, is that we can err in getting so
hung up on the performance criteria, that we start judging the individuals and
the system and trying to figure out why it’s broken, because this kid can’t
absorb it—that’s the way we are.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
keep trying to correct that which isn’t perfect for everybody, so we add more
rules and more programs and more tests.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You don’t need to get into minutia for
performance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For expectation, one
or two things—that’s fine.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What I’m doing now is looking for a way
to measure the performance for what I do at Elk Creek, to see if I should do it
up to a year—for the entire school year—maybe perhaps a monthly very brief
questionnaire that goes out to each teacher, if they notice anything.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you know what I mean?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda or Deb(?):</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The hard thing about that is measuring
personal growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you’re talking
about going into sociology, how do you measure personal growth?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You’d have to ask the person.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Why not send out something to the
students—“Do you feel like you’ve experienced growth?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How does the teacher know, …<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personal growth is measured by
yourself.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Right.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think there’s some value in that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I totally agree with you; I would do the
same with the children, and have them do a very brief little thing, but having
that adult observation, especially with a teacher when they see a particular
child that they know is withdrawn and they can see that that child is coming out
of its shell and starting to socialize more, or things like that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Linda or Deb(?):</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would hate to get discouraged though,
just because there isn’t visible growth—there could be a lot of other types of
growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Absolutely.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so I’d hate to solely base the
performance on that, although visible is easier to measure.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There’s also at home, too, because what
I’m doing is I’m recording a two-hour training blurb for parents.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s a two-hour thing that they can
answer all the questions and stuff, and I want to prep them for that too.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would love to be able to send them
monthly e-mail questionnaires that they can send back, to see how it’s
coming.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Ding!)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So it gives you an example of what we
can do and not get too far down the track.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The work of this team, is path finding—it’s finding the way—and we’ve
gotten to the point now, where you have enough angst in yourselves and the
group, to want to engage a new process for producing, and that’s where we
are.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will be setting at least
one example, if not several, for other teams, and what they can anticipate as
they become a team.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have a friend
in Lithuania, who has been e-mailing me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I don’t know how Lithuanians think, but I would imagine it’s similar to
what we do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would be interesting
to see how they work in a team—maybe they can’t work in a truly egalitarian
basis, without a leader or someone who is the head and tells them what to
do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And maybe one person will
totally get it—understand it and say, “Okay, I’ve got it for everybody now, this
is how we do it, and I’m going to tell you how to do it, and you guys do
it!”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t know—maybe that will
work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">So how you—we—engage this next
process of how to have an organization and an inner process of producing
results, is on the table.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Someone
has volunteered to input into the computer.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Someone has volunteered to assist her in
working with the site—[Michael:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Two
foolish people, right off the bat] (laughter)—and so I’m a facilitator, but I’d
also like to see what does this look like?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I guess that’s my thing—what does this look like that you’d like to
do?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Actually, I don’t think we are very far
from having something that is visible, tangible, material to look at.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We’ve collected a lot of beliefs, and a
lot of expectations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think it
will go much more quickly and flow more smoothly when we can all look at the
same document and see what we put in there last week.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We could even change the colors for each
week and see what progress we made.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, as a facilitator, I say, by next
week you will have read 5 pages of the adult document.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It really didn’t seem that long to
me.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m amenable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also, it may be easy reading, but when
you guys start to discuss this, you know where you’re going to go.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It may take you all night to get through
page one—I don’t know.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will be
amazed at how quickly you will begin to identify beliefs and associated
expectations, and have in mind shortly thereafter, some measurable criteria.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does everyone have a copy of the adult
guide?</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think everybody received a copy by
email.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are we ready to close for
tonight?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And you have an idea of
what you’re going to do next week?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Read 5 pages, underline it or make notes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does that include the
introduction?)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It should include
the introduction.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>David:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How many pages are in the entire
document?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>36 Pages—it’s a good document, very
tight.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Patrick:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I didn’t want it to be one of those long
….</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sondjah has signed off unless you
request him back.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m really
tickled about how this night has gone!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We turned some dirt here: it’s really good.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you!</P>
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