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<P align=left>DATE: </B>December 7, 2008<BR><B>LOCATION:</B> Central New Mexico,
USA<BR><B>T/R:</B> Gerdean<BR><B>TEACHERS:</B> Athena, Merium, Andromadeus,
Dani<BR><B>TOPIC:</B> Epochal Angels</P>
<P><STRONG>ATHENA:</STRONG> Celestial Artisan Athena coming in to greet you, to
snatch you up.<BR><B>Group: </B>Hello.</P><B>
<P>ATHENA:</B> Hello yourself. I can see the imaginative nature of this group
getting completely out of hand, and so I am here to corral you, in order that we
may deal with you on a level that is mutually workable. How wonderful that we
have attained this degree of association that we recognize the force field in
which we congregate: the morontia zone of mind connection, thanks to the efforts
of the midwayers and the communications experts who help with the energy.
Welcome, little family.</P><B>
<P>Group: </B>Hi. Thank you.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> And I am Merium. Welcome. I am glad to be here and to hostess
another afternoon in the realm that we inhabit together, a realm which is hard
to denote as one thing or another, for it is spiritual, yes, but it is also a
place of the imagination. It is a classroom, of course. And it is your home, as
well. And so we have many rooms through which we may wander as we make
connections, as we reconnect with that deity substance, the awareness of which
we all share.</P>
<P>Let me invite Andromadeus in to give us our twelfth and final lesson in this
series on seraphic planetary government. One moment please.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Greetings. I am Andromadeus, most high observer and student
visitor/teacher for this series of lessons on seraphic planetary government, in
particular the twelve divisions of angelic orders of beings who are instrumental
in developing your new infrastructure, the original infrastructure having been
weakened by rebellion and crumbling before your very eyes. </P>
<P>The infrastructure we are in the process of building has been ongoing since
the time of Christ when the new government was instituted, following Michael's
return to Salvington. As you understand these divisions, you will understand the
action being undertaken, and if you are engaged in co-working with the angelic
orders or the midwayers assisting them, you will recognize the inner subtleties
of such a division of labor so that you learn its language and become able to
work within its branches, its arms. You become a part of the divine mechanism,
the divine administration.</P>
<P>Let's see. The last section under discussion is that which is listed first in
the listing in the Urantia text about these orders of beings. The first, epochal
angels, shall be the last in this parade. Renault, my able assistant in this
endeavor, will you please read what it says about epochal angels?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> <FONT color=#000080>"<I>The epochal angels.</I> These are the
angels of the current age, the dispensational group. These celestial ministers
are intrusted with the oversight and direction of the affairs of each generation
as they are designed to fit into the mosaic of the age in which they occur. The
present corps of epochal angels serving on Urantia is the third group assigned
to the planet during the current dispensation."</FONT> </P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Thank you. One more time. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> <FONT color=#000080>"<I>The epochal angels.</I> These are the
angels of the current age, the dispensational group. These celestial ministers
are intrusted with the oversight and direction of the affairs of each generation
as they are designed to fit into the mosaic of the age in which they occur.
"
</P></FONT>
<P>Does that mean each generation has their own group of angels that the epochal
angels oversee?</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Trusted with the oversight.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Let's take a look at the epochal angels and recognize that
an entire legion of angels is operating on your behalf, right now, creatively
maneuvering the Paradise pattern into the mortal mix in a manner which will move
civilization ahead one notch at a time, one notch representing one epoch, for in
terms of eternity, time functions much quicker than it does in the finite
realms. This is why it can be said that one lifetime is like the blinking of an
eye.</P>
<P>And so what may seem like an endless epoch to you from this perspective, may
well be the tick of a clock to those who oversee your growth. This is the
advantage of perspective, one which you are invited to borrow as often as
possible from those who have greater degrees than you, so that you can learn by
our efforts to convey to you the wisdom of the ages appropriate to your
capacities at that given time under those given circumstances.</P>
<P>I know that generally speaking your frame of reference for the word epochal
is in the phrase "epochal revelation" where you are all apprised of the fact
that the Urantia Book is a compilation representing the fifth epochal revelation
of divine truth to your world -- fifth of seven epochal revelations typical in
the life of any inhabited world.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Question. </P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Do other planets have a comparable UB? Or is this unique to us?
</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> For the time being I am going to say that it is unique to
you. This is a philosophic position I am urged to convey, for it is too easy to
give a simple answer that conveys misinformation, and yet the long term reality
cannot be conveyed because it is not actualized yet, and so while we can perhaps
speculate or imagine the divine plan we cannot know the end result. Only God
knows the end from the beginning.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> You said "the fifth of seven epochal revelations common to
"</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> A world.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> So I was wondering if other worlds have common epochal
revelations, i.e., the Urantia Book on their worlds.</P><B>
<P>ANDROAMDEUS:</B> Your world, as well as other worlds that were isolated as a
result of the Lucifer rebellion, are being treated individually, and yet they
are also being treated as a group, and I think you can understand why that is
necessary. You are not just all one group to be lumped together except for
certain specific purposes, statistical purposes perhaps, but experientially you
are each your own unique world. Some of the worlds in this sector that has been
quarantined are younger than you, some are older than you. And so some were in
varying stages of development when the quarantine set in. I will leave it to you
to imagine circumstances or conditions on other worlds based on that factor
alone but I will not lead you into a travelogue.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> They just have their own unique revelations for their
world.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> They are being hand-held as you are. It is noteworthy that
there is so much focused on this particular planet in terms of circuitry but it
is no doubt because Jesus was here and he has a sentimental regard for this
world -- not that it is particularly superior or inferior in any way; those are
secondary to the fact that this is where he completed his bestowals and to where
he came into his power such that the spirit of truth was poured out upon all
flesh and subsequently Thought Adjusters were able to freely volunteer the
indwelling of these evolving mortals. If you consider that was only 2,000 years
ago, you might gain a better perspective on how truly primitive your world still
is in many contexts. It is almost a mere one step above primordial ooze.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> (Laughing) In the blink of any eye, huh? But look how far we
have to go if we have only just begun. What a wonderful, grand, exciting
adventure.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes, it is. But before you get too enthralled about what
wonderful adventures lay ahead, let me remind you that the other side of that
coin is the concurrent realization of precisely how far away the goal is, and
thus you remove any need for such a comparison because you are here now, and
here now is where your focus is needed. </P>
<P>This goes along the lines of the simple adage of not comparing yourself to
others. If you compare yourself to others you will always see those who are
brighter and those who are duller and you will have a response accordingly,
either that you are brighter or duller by comparison, and so aside from the
perspective this gives and the mutual respect that can be developed once it is
accepted that you are one among many, it can work to your advantage but in the
meanwhile there are many emotional roller-coasters as to how far away it is on
one hand and how far away it is on the other, both good and bad, both positive
and negative. Therefore, the sensible approach is to respect the balance and
simply put one foot in front of the other, one day at a time.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Be here now.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Be here now. In this process of being here now, you are
naturally led then along the path and as I observe, those of you who are
following consciously or unconsciously the will of God, walking within "the
straight and narrow" or "the divine path" or "the Way" or however you want to
phrase it, as you walk therein, the entire evolving supreme of Urantia moves
forward and the sands of time settle in the new position. Think in terms of the
kaleidoscope. </P>
<P>Let us all now look through our mutual kaleidoscope and see how the light and
colors are arrayed. Rotating the tube one quarter inch to the right changes the
view completely, or at least significantly, and this is rather how it is to
observe epochs as they pass in the fields of human endeavor, for this is what we
are talking about, we are talking about the epochs of human endeavor as compared
to the five epochal revelations which are rather large, comprising a rather
large chunk of time in your scope. </P>
<P>Human epochs, however, are smaller, shorter, but relatively speaking, no less
dramatic. The age group of you here, you are well able to remember the 50's, the
60's and the 90's as three individual epochs, three separate epochs in your life
unfolding. In these demographics of your culture you can see time marching on.
The more you have lived, the more perspective you have as to what this looks
like in terms of centuries rather than decades.</P>
<P>The wonderful thing about the epochal angels is that they are very
contemporary. An epoch in your life, individually, may transpire in the course
of four hours if those four hours are that significant, but generally epochs in
human lives allow for more time to contemplate and adjust to before another
epoch is instituted, simply in order to keep your minds occupied, stimulated,
and advancing. Are there questions?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Are there angels of my/our generation? I feel that our
generation has brought along with it a certain set of ideals and standards, I
want to say, and I also think of generations like my children's generation and
their set of standards and ideals and what they would like to see and do, and my
grandchildren's generation and those children who are going to be even more
enlightened and capable and I think about, also, the era that my generation was
born in, which was the midst of World War II and we were born in that midst and
yet we came forth with a whole set of ideals with that generation than when they
were born, you know what I mean? So are the epochal angels like each generation
has
do they kind of like travel along with them?</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes, this is very much their field of dreams and field of
influence. Read again, if you will, the definition of these epochal
angels.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> <FONT color=#000080>" These are the angels of the current age,
the dispensational group. These celestial ministers are intrusted with the
oversight and direction of the affairs of each generation as they are designed
to fit into the mosaic of the age in which they occur. The present corps of
epochal angels serving on Urantia is the third group assigned to the planet
during the current dispensation."</FONT> </P>
<P>And I'm thinking of the mosaic of the 60s and what that looked like, and the
mosaic of the 80s and what that looked like, and just a feeling that I get
knowing what we've gone through -- my generation -- what we've gone
through.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes, and if you look at that view through the kaleidoscope,
you can see how the positions are all in position to act when the wheel is
rotated, and when all those pieces fall into place in the new configuration, the
picture is different; it has moved ahead. This is the work of the epochal
angels.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> I.e., our election?</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Yes, of course, although they are not the only angels
involved in that event.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Right.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Certainly it has started a new epoch, this new president
elect, new administration, an entirely new paradigm for your country.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Yes. Hooray!</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Appreciate that the cause and effect of disillusionment and
disgruntlement from the previous administration created the circumstances in
which you now rejoice. However, be reminded that it happened previously in the
earlier change of administration; when people were so glad to be done with that
previous administration, they were relieved to fall into a new place. This is a
part of the process. It is like Forrest Gump's mother said. "Forrest, life is
like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get." And the
same is true when you change epochs. You never know what you are going to get.
You can act because of what came down before, cause and effect, but whatever
cards you are dealt is the hand you will play. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Is there a summing up of the twelve that you might want to do in
this last session here?</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> No. I am not prepared to sum up anything at this point,
except the fact that we have now discussed each of the twelve. I know that I
have not been a Broadway hit--</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> No! You're great! We love it!</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> -- but there is more that I would like to discuss with you
from time to time. I feel this is very important information for you who are in
the vanguard, those of you who are engaging in shaping the future of Urantia.
Since you are becoming enthused, and there is a new energy in your midst, it
stands to reason that those of us who have seen from the farther view would want
to bestow on you our perspectives so that you can add your own dimension (which
is our dimension) to the mix, thus influencing the direction it will
take.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Last question. Is the Urantia Book designed then to last
millennia since it is an epochal revelation?</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> The Urantia Papers serve a purpose in your planetary
history, just as all the previous revelations to your planet have served. Some
have done well; some have failed. And no doubt the Urantia Papers, when all is
said and done, will have served well in certain ways and fallen short in certain
ways. Like you, we have to play the hand we're dealt. Naturally we want everyone
to win. We want this to be "all that it can be" -- whatever that may be.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Highest and best use. Well I certainly am thankful for it. It
has certainly helped me a lot!</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> But it is not the final say. It's only the fifth. In other
words, time marches on, and yet it will always remain a perspective, a point of
reference, an epochal point of reference. It has only been here a few short
years, not even one full century.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Right. Fifty-three years.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> It has only begun to be seen. It will take many years for it
to have reached its full impact and as you have learned from your studies about
Caligastia, Adam and Eve, Machiventa, and Jesus Christ, you will never
completely obliterate the effect of these Papers on you. They will not fail.
They will be disseminated. There will be many, many other materials, insights,
revelations, secondary works, tertiary works, many more papers will be
delivered, but there will only, always be one Urantia Papers' fifth epochal
revelation.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Right. Very good. A unique assignment.</P><B>
<P>ANDROAMDEUS:</B> Getting back to the lesson. You find yourself within that
epoch which is experiencing the distinct waves it made when it [the UB] entered
into your domain. You may think it is not so much, but I assure you it is. You
will need to have the perspective of Mansonia and beyond before you can
appreciate the intensity with which your world is being affected by the arrival
of the Urantia Papers. </P>
<P>I will take my leave, but I will be back. I will not dominate your sessions
but there are a few other things I would like to address, one of which is the
Reserve Corps of Destiny, which I understand some of you have manifested an
interest in and curiosity about. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> That sounds very interesting.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> And so at some point I shall return. Thank you for your
presence.</P><B>
<P>Group: </B>Thank you.</P><B>
<P>ANDROMADEUS:</B> Shalom. </P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Sweeping in now to stir the atmosphere and allow you a moment to
stretch and refresh yourself. Would you like a recess?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Yes, please. We'll be right back.</P><B>
<P align=center>[Recess]</P></B><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> I am glad to see you resuming. Did you have a good break?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Yes.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> I did, too. I had a thought about our discussions of this
afternoon. Let's see if I can find it. It seems to have gotten woven in with
Gerdean's.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Oh, no!</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Oh, no. We have a knot, speaking of threads.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Well, we've got plenty of time to unravel it.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Well, perhaps it will come by in the natural course of things.
There is no reason for two thoughts to snarl, especially when they are so
similar. Rather, they can be easily woven into a magic carpet. [Pause] Just do a
little stillness and relax. No one is in any hurry.</P>
<P>I wanted to talk about the fact of the organism, if you will, as compared to
the machine of seraphic planetary administration. I have heard so many people
wonder how they work, these angels, and my thought was to add that when you pray
-- not "you" necessarily, as people here, but just people -- when people pray
they have a heartfelt yearning or expression for God, it goes up to God, you
know, and gets distributed accordingly and it's kind of like ordinary
government. When the citizens let the White House know what they want, the White
House establishes departments and ambassadors to see to it that these things are
put into effect that will satisfy the citizenry -- to the extent possible, of
course. </P>
<P>The same thing is true in universe government. When you pray to your
higher-ups about the circumstances in which you live, your prayers are heard and
responded to where and when possible, and when there is action, when there is
pressure put upon those situations about which you have ceaselessly prayed (you
as individuals and you as a community, an evolving mass) these angels are
authorized to bring about certain changes that are an answer to your prayers.
</P>
<P>The midwayers are apprised of the goals of the angelic corps and they, as
natural liaisons having observed their mortal cousins and recognizing their way
of life, their leanings, their troubles, their capacities, etc., will work to
involve the mortal in assisting in one of these armies of the lord, overseeing
your desire to serve in ways that are most useful to you and your interests as
well as the system and its interests
the system, in your case, being known as
Satania.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Can I ask you a question about prayer, while we're on the
subject?</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Surely.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> I was reading a book whereby a group gathered around a lake that
was real yukky and polluted and there was a Buddhist master there and they said
prayers over the water, for the waters in this lake and they felt their prayers
alone helped clear the water and make it better. This proof was the crystals
that it made, the before and after pictures of the crystals, so I fully believe
in the power of prayer as one of the methods to make molecular changes. So is
that how prayer also works? That energy that we create in our intention and
emotion.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Yes, absolutely. Welcome to change!</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> (Laughing) Okay. This is a rather amazing realization of the
physical manifestation of how prayer can change
</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> This is rather delicate territory, for on one hand it may seem to
be quite
what is the phrase? "Airy fairy." Pie in the sky. LaLaLand. Those
negative
</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Nay sayers.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B>
names apply to those of simple faith, particularly when it gets
outside the sanction of organized religion and certainly there are those who are
naοve, yes, and act on blind faith without harm or without much good effect, but
it is appreciated and allowed. There are those, too, who come along with science
and measure these things, which, over time, may well prove those dreamers to
have had something after all. And this is how religion and science can work
together to advance humanity, each enjoying its contribution to humanity and
each being able to say, "Aha! I was right!" Win-win.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> This whole thing with religion and science is basically the
reconciliation between the material and the immaterial, the visible and the
invisible. It's sort of elementary rather than to have it all tied up in
religions.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Well, it is elementary, but this is only one perspective, one
viewpoint. There are many approaches to evolution and, as we see with that
kaleidoscope, each one is different, but each one contributes. You may represent
blue chips; Renault may represent orange chips and Gerdean may represent yellow
chips. These chips will always be true to their own color but they can harmonize
and all the blues, with all the oranges with all the yellows also flavor the
picture. </P><B>
<P>Gerdean:</B> What? </P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Time out here. Gerdean if you would quit criticizing my lessons
before they are even out of your mouth, I might have a better opportunity to
make sense of our work together. If you want to do it all by yourself, I'll just
back off and you can do it all by yourself but I happen to know you are not a
success, so work with me or don't, but quit doubting me and quit doubting
yourself and second-guessing everything that comes down the pike. Allow yourself
to be vulnerable. Go ahead and make a mistake. Be imperfect. Who cares?</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Amen to that!</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> All right then. And on the other hand there's always the other
foot. The idea that second guessing yourself and the process is sometimes
inevitable and critically necessary because you need to give yourself a reality
check every now and then in terms of that perspective. If you begin to think
that your view through your kaleidoscope is the only one that is, or that it is
always the one that everyone else sees also, then you will have limited yourself
and virtually crystallized your options. </P>
<P>On the other hand, you do conserve some credibility in the eyes of your
peers, even those peers who live within your own mind. People must be able to
live with themselves, is what I'm trying to say. It is one thing to be amenable,
trying to get along with others, and being harmonious and it is another to be in
touch with yourself such that you retain your integrity. </P>
<P>I have said enough. It's your turn to talk. Or what? It's your class. I am
your cohort now. You are as bright as I am. You have offerings to make,
utterances to give, stimuli to offer. Perhaps transmissions to transmit. Any
takers? Any experimenters?</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Anybody trying to point a finger at me? (Laughing) No. I'm not
ready to experiment. It's not that I wouldn't if I felt compelled, but I don't
feel it.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> It would perhaps be an assignment to consider getting your feet
wet in a session that is not scheduled for publication on the Internet. </P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> I could consider that.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> I will also consider talking to Gerdean about perhaps renewing
efforts to access Monjoronson who represents our Magisterial Son. I don't see
that happening this afternoon either, but the seeds are planted.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> I feel that we are kind of puny for such high office to deal
with.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Yes, this goes directly to my comments earlier about credibility.
One must feel they are credible, and if the idea of something is incredible even
to oneself, it will not convey to others as being credible.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> So we have to be a little more accepting.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Well, this refers to the blind faith, take a risk, lalaland frame
of mind that is allowed. Your efforts are experimental. You are experiential
beings and we are still in a process of engaging the mortal mind with morontia
mind and that will take some time. Many epochs, in fact.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Is it a DNA thing? Or a will thing? Are we already hard wired
for it? Or is it just that we are evolving?</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> There you go with your simplistic questions. [Laughter] Yes, yes,
yes, yes, but don't marry me to any one of those answers.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Just curious.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Well, we can only speak in symbolic examples anyway. It's all so
beyond our imagination, we are trying to put a skeletal picture to it and
whatever we use to describe what that whole project is from creation to this
moment now, it's so complex, it's going to take an eternity to understand it,
really.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> That's why God gives us an eternity to understand it.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Yes, and you don't have to understand everything right
now.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> That's right.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Thank goodness!</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> But we do try, don't we? I want to understand everything. I
try.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Well, you have this pattern within you and this compulsion from
whatever source, or sources, to act. The life force within you impels you to do
something. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Move forward.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Whatever it is that you do, be prepared to do something else the
next time the impulse overtakes you. Life is one series of impulses, heartbeats.
Look at all the opportunities to learn and study what the possibilities might be
given DNA, IQ, cultural upbringing -- the possibilities are virtually
endless.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> The potentialities.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Well, we will need to think in terms of the potentialities of the
group here. With Andromadeus backing off, shall we continue to meet on the first
Sunday or do you want to change the configuration for the next year?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Whatever works for Gerdean. As long as first Sunday's work for
her --</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Let's just take one first Sunday at a time then, and let all the
other afternoons and evenings in between rise to the occasion, should the
occasion present itself. All right then. Under the circumstances, have you done
all the Christmas shopping you are going to do? [Mixed responses] Well, I know
that you are consumers, so
"'Tis the season to be jolly." Enjoy yourselves.
Spice up your little corner of the world. Give off good light and good aroma.
I'll see you when I see you.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Merry Christmas, Merium</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Merry Christmas.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> See you in the new year.</P><B>
<P>MERIUM:</B> Bye-bye.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Thank you for all your help this past year, too. We really,
really appreciated it. We really do. So thank you very much. And to the
midwayers that have helped to sustain all this all this time.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Oh, thanks!</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Really! I love you guys! I have lots of questions for midwayers,
too.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>I'm here! </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Are you always around?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Always. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Do you each have a section of the earth that you are responsible
for?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>We have a room on the deck of the Enterprise and these great
screens that allow us to look in on everybody's private life. [Laughter] Most
people's private life is really mundane. We have seraphim notified as to when a
person reaches a point where they are contactable. We begin to harass them at
that point. It takes some time, generally. Unless of course they have a digital
clock. And marketing.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Are you sometimes around at 10:10 or 18:18?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>I told you, I am around all the time! We've been around for 37,000
years! Every minute. One minute at a time. We're here. We're still here, 37,000
years later. Just now getting to the point where we can say "hello."</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Well, hi.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Well, yes.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Multi-level multi-testers.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>You give me a lot of credit for something I may not be able to live
up to.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah: </B>I didn't mean to be presumptive.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>That's okay. I understand. </P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> I was going for the alliteration.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>That's good! That's part of the limbering up of the tongue that
leads to T/Ring. When your mind is playing with words that come to your tongue,
you are in the neighborhood of allowing the tr5ansmissions of cosmic circuitry
to come trippingly off the tongue.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> When I concentrate, my mind goes blank.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Quit concentrating! Focus is the key word. Focus, not
concentration. Different muscles.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Concentrate is for orange juice.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Oh. </P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>What other questions did you have? Ask questions.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Do other planets have midwayers?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Of course! All of the planets have midwayers. As soon as they are
able to have us, there we are. No planet is excluded. We are as much a part of
the evolution of the inhabited worlds as protozoa and the ice age.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> It seemed like, when I was reading the Urantia Book, they were
surprised.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Well, you have to admit there are a lot of surprises on this
planet. It's all out of whack. Everything is out of synch. All off schedule. And
yet it's rather like jazz, you know? There's some
.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> I kind of like the new melody that's going to be played.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>I have yet to hear a real melody, but I can hear the orchestra
warming up.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Slow down and listen! </P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>What melody are you talking about? Are you talking about Christmas
carols?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> No. Just in general.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Are you talking about this TV show where the singers
Idols
?</P>
<P>Renault: No. No. You go there too?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>I'm grasping at straws to find out where this melody is coming
from. Are you speaking metaphorically?</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Yes.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Renault! Renault! Celebrate. An opening!</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Right. But what I'm saying is that when I do try to still my
mind, I just kind of draw a blank, nothing enters in, in the way of external
communication. Or internal, for that matter.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Coming and going, huh? I don't know your brain so I don't know how
it's wired but I can pretty much guarantee there is some way to make a contact
with you. Maybe you got your wires crossed and you may need to get --</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Short circuited.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Well, perhaps. It has taken shock treatment sometimes to get people
to wake up but
I don't mean to say you are asleep or dormant but you are not
hearing me yet, hearing us, and that is--</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> I think that has something to do with the fact that we are
preconditioned. I speak collectively, as we as a group of Christian people, with
a Judeo Christian background, that whole idea of meditation has been presented
to us in a way that we have to constrict ourselves. I found that instead of
trying to think of nothing, just to let my mind go and just go with it. If it
dwells on something that happened to me when I was six years old fine; if it
dwells on the scores of the football game, that'll be fine. <STRONG>Sometimes
I'll just catch a ride in the river of thought and go where it takes me
</STRONG>and sometimes I'll stay with a thought and it does not waver.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Yes. Whatever reveals itself. This is a process! And it is a
process of being human and reaching, or even just having a mind, but you can
identify these areas and rule them out if you want to. You can say, I don't want
to think about my grocery list right now, I want to think about my manuscript,
and you can train your mind to go into these different areas, these disciplines,
or you can just allow it to float. And floating into memory bubbles is not a bad
thing; it is a way of dealing with that which bubbles up. However, yes, the
religious heritage and its vernacular has a definite coloring effect. It is part
of the historic frame of reference for reverence for divinity. Even though there
are other frames of reference for divinity, Christianity is the one that seems
to permeate Urantia more
and certainly your society here in this "Christian"
country. </P><B>
<P>Thoroah</B>: Ironic that we call ourselves a Christian country and Christ is
never mentioned at all in any of our founding documents that I know of.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Which is rather why it is interesting to deal with the realm of
spirituality that does not have theology attached to it, that is outside the
Christ-speak, without that prejudicial factor. It's too bad that epoch seems to
be necessary, but we can't get There from here without going through there.
</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> We'll work it out.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> The Jehovah's Witnesses say that Jesus will return one day and
"Poof!" everything will be beautiful.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Oh, they are not the only ones who say that. In fact, you've said
it yourself. It's that "in the twinkling of an eye" concept, and remember how
long you live. As the blink of an eye, so how's that for relativity?</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> That's good! </P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Well, let me get out of here. I can see we're having entirely too
much fun. You ought to invite me back more often. I'm a great counter-balance to
that potentate you had in here earlier.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Dani, do you sometimes come and join our Urantia groups?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Oh, yeah! We do. There's a lot of service work that we can help
with, but we are always looking for recruits -- especially from those people who
supposedly know what they are doing. So of course we come by to see if there are
any who are ready to engage.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Because there are a couple of people in that group who are
especially curious about you, because I have mentioned you.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Well, if they look closely, I'm sure they will see that we have
been able to work closely with them on occasion. And so we are a part of this
process in whatever ways that are deemed necessary and desirable so yes, of
course, we work with those who are particularly willing to serve.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> Well, I welcome you to our group anyway, whether they know
you're there or not. </P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>And it's nice to have the energy boost that comes from being around
a lot of lively minds. Just as you enjoy going into the university district of
your city. It's nice to have all those IQs bouncing around, like ions.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> And does that Mimi still hang around the hospital?</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Indeed. The associate from the angels of health. Yes. </P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> I'm sure they're working overtime.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>That epoch will go on for awhile. Well, let me outta here. I know
you have other things to do besides jabber with us all day but you know what
opportunists we are. We take advantage when we can.</P><B>
<P>Renault:</B> We appreciate it! Thanks for stopping by.</P><B>
<P>Thoroah:</B> Yeah. Good to hear from you, Dani.</P><B>
<P>DANI: </B>Later!</P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>