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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Special Session – Forgiveness -
Jan. 29, 2010</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Monjoronson</B></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topic:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Forgiveness</B></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Moderator:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Vicki Vanderheyden</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>January 29, 2010</B></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>[Connection with spirit preceded
session.]</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Daniel:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>See the silver cord coming from Paradise
through your crown chakra.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Its
energy flows into your body and fills your whole body with light, every cell of
your body is filled with light and your mind is clear.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And there is a golden cord connecting
your base chakra to earth center, and this completes the wonderful circuit of
energy that we feel.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We invoke the
presence of the Holy Father with us here, to fill our minds and our bodies with
his presence for clarity of understanding and clarity of answers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We give thanks for this presence and we
remain present during this wonderful episode, and we give thanks.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amen.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First, let me say I’m both grateful and
humbled by this opportunity to serve as moderator to you, Monjoronson, on behalf
of Michael and our Father.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would
also like to thank Daniel and Roxanne for their roles in this process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am new at this, and in the spirit of
experimentation, wish to try a new approach, here and there, and so before we
begin—and if you are willing—I have some questions related to my role and the
process.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would be most happy to answer your
questions, dear one.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My first question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do you feel about our plan to expand
the moderator base?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a wonderful beginning that you
have, and I say “beginning” because it will be replicated around the world,
numerous times in the future, so let us begin.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My second question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In honoring your request to ask
questions that have a spiritual growth value and will assist us in our
co-creative endeavors, I’m wondering if a thematic approach where one topic is
covered in more depth for each session would be more helpful?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do you feel about this?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an excellent approach; do not be
restrained by asking about one topic, however, during the session, as we can
cover several topics at a time, but not simultaneously, so the theme approach is
a wonderful way to get depth of understanding about a topic.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My third question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If I am understanding correctly, it is a
time for us to expand our circle of participants to those of different faiths,
in an effort to unify or bridge common beliefs, and to establish some common
language, where we can.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
intention would be to support <I>the Urantia Book</I> Revelation by exploring in
more depth, those intertwining groups within every religion, or metaphorically
speaking, the “one river beneath many wells.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Am I correct in this assumption?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, but there is more to it than that,
as the approach is important to keep in mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is that we move forward continuously
speaking and publishing our work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We do make references to <I>the Urantia Book</I>, and those who are
missing out on the language will be curious to look into that book; however, we
do not wish to overly promote <I>the Urantia Book</I> as we do not want our
program to become doctrinaire.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Thank you, I understand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then this is my next question, which you
may have partially answered here:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>In doing so, questions may be asked that have terms and possible concepts
not found in <I>the Urantia Book</I>, that are indigenous to these differing
beliefs, such as the term, for instance, “chakras” or the reference to “the
blood of Christ.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a
sensitive area for some in our movement, for they fear that it will distort or
misrepresent the contents of <I>the Urantia Book.</I><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And as you have indicated, it sounds
like we do not want to restrict ourselves in that way.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Could you offer me some guidelines as to
what you would consider appropriate?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, we will use the language that is
colloquial to this culture, as this is how people of this culture think, and how
they relate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The word, such as
“chakra” is a colloquial usage that is typical in other cultures, as well
besides the Western world. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do
not wish to remain strictly adhering to the language of <I>the Urantia Book</I>,
as it is in itself over 50 years old at this time, and though it is
contemporary, it has some “languaging” that may seem to be antiquarian to
others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As this approach comes to
the attention of many across the world, we wish to approach them to make them
comfortable so they understand the nature of what we are doing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The identification and mortal stamp of
approval of <I>the Urantia Book</I> is not necessary, as the thought pattern and
theory of its philosophies and of its teachings are pervasive in the work that
we do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Since I have been brought onboard to
select and edit questions to present to you, I’ve struggled with the validity or
the invalidity of curiosity questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is a result of my teaching experience, where often I found that
stimulating curiosity led to a deeper desire to learn.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have resolved this in feeling that
curiosity questions are appropriate if they lead to a spiritual growth
value.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you agree?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>With events unfolding that relate to
death and dying, I’m sensing a need to address these issues in ways that provide
more insight and comfort to those who are involved in this process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are these appropriate questions to
present to you, or should we perhaps seek the counsel of another, such as
Michael, Machiventa or Nebadonia?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would be glad to approach those
questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa and I are of
almost “one mind,” so to speak, and that I have appropriated a great deal of his
earthly experience in our association to prepare me for this mission that we
have begun.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are welcome to ask
the questions of myself, though Machiventa perhaps would be more appropriate as
he has had living experience upon this world, and has been a minister to those
who have experienced death while he was here in the flesh.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are welcome to make that choice
yourself.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you very much, Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I ask if there is any additional advice
you feel we would benefit from [during these special sessions]?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I would hope that we would have a
more casual and informal approach to this, as you would want to get acquainted
with someone who was at your home, chatting about such subjects over coffee or
tea and munching cookies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not
want to make this overly formal and staid and stiff, but rather “comfortable,”
so that you feel at peace and at ease, and that you could ask those questions
which perhaps may be curiosity questions, but also pique your interest to know
more about.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So do not be overly
formal about this; know that I will assist you in guidelines if you stray
outside the boundaries.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And please
do not be offended if I do so.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All right, thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I couldn’t ask for more, and it is also
my desire to make it more conversational.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Thank you again, Monjoronson, for your patience and insight.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I have created a statement, that
it is an indication of our intention here:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Since “forgiveness” is at the very heart of your mission, and is a
crucial component in the healing of what ails us on our planet, we are devoting
this session to questions related to the theme of forgiveness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will begin with our first
question:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It appears that to truly
forgive, and sustain those feelings of forgiveness, that there are multiple
layers and depths that we must travel.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Can you give us some insight into this process?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Forgiveness is always related to either
one of several situations:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
first is, someone does something wrong to you, and you have need to forgive
them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Second, you also have need to
forgive yourself as well from your negative emotional reaction to that
offense.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Third, you must forgive
yourself, as you offend others, for just as someone can offend you, you can
offend others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a need to
forgive that person and to forgive yourself for reacting to that offense.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Yes, very much so.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most mortals on Urantia think only in
terms of forgiving someone else, when someone has offended them, insulted them
or treated them poorly, and that they must rise above the situation to forgive
that person.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yet, forgiveness is
automatic when you have achieved the master/teacher position of Christ Michael
as Jesus, and other masters, and this is the teaching position that you all must
aspire to, to really have learned your lessons during the flesh.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That brings to mind one of my other
questions, and it relates to the depths and the layers of forgiveness that we
must travel.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That there are times from a personal
standpoint, when a person may feel a need to intellectually or philosophically
forgive, and yet they don’t feel that desire yet in their heart.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we reconcile this?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us answer an earlier question that
you have not asked,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(with a
chuckle,) and that deals with those multiple layers of forgiveness that is
involved.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When someone offends you,
you receive this into your being.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You have an emotional reaction, which affects you at the cellular
level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You not only have a mental
memory of this, you also have a cellular memory of this event.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To overly intellectualize this process
misses the point tremendously, as you must take efforts to release the energy
that is locked into your mind about that event, and also release the energy
locked at the cellular level in your body.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Failure to do this will not lead to complete forgiveness; it will lead
you only to intellectual forgiveness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You will go through the motions of forgiveness by using the language, but
without using your heart, or without using your body to release that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I do, and my next question would
be:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we go about that?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can go about that through various
exercises, both physical exercises and mental exercises.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At the physical level, you would want to
be able to release that energy through exercise, through deprivation of water or
food, or through exertion or exhaustion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You can achieve this effectively when you exercise your body physically,
and at the same time repeat affirmations of forgiveness for this activity, this
event that occurred.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You would
state during your physical exercise that you are releasing all energy of the
memory of the offense for which you need to forgive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Forgiveness is an exercise; it is a
label that you give to an exercise, both mental and physical for releasing that
energy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To say, “I forgive you,” is
just simply saying the words—there must be something more that underlies those
words.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">You must “exhaust” the energy within you to
have a complete release of the toxins of those memories.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When I say “exhaust” I use the metaphor
of an internal combustion engine where the fuel (memories) are burned up by
physical exercise that is guided by your <U>intention</U> for doing so, and your
verbal repetition of that statement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Doing so, you release the spent exhaust to the
universe.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>To release or get rid of that
energy at all levels, saying, “I forgive you” at the dinner table, for example,
when somebody has said something wrong to you, is to go through the motions of
forgiveness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is much like you
have read about being blessed, when someone says, “I bless you.” Those are nice
words, but it really is a statement, words, that identify a deeper level of
action within you energetically.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Just as in blessing when I say
to you, Vicki, that “I forgive you,” I send my energy to you and I forgive
you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When I say, “I bless you,” I
send my energy, too, that fills your body, your mind, your being and your
presence in all regards, so that you simply glow with blessing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, too, must you release the energy in
your body and in your mind when you say, “I forgive.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a drawing out of the poison, so to
speak, of un-forgiveness, then releasing it to the universe to absorb.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you do not know how to do this
energetically, then what you do is, “I call upon Christ Michael, my Lord and
Teacher, to receive the un-forgiveness I have in my heart about you.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this clearer now?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Very much so, and I am very thankful and
appreciative that you have given us some technique that will be valuable to
others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(You are welcome.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish to go back to the four positions
of forgiveness with you, if I might?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(Yes, that would be wonderful, thank you.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Just as you would forgive
someone who has offended you, it also says something about you that you were
offended.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It means that you have
growth to do inside yourself.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let
us say that you said something unworthy to Jesus, who was in front of you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You know now that your words would have
no effect upon him; he would not feel bad; he would not feel remorseful for
himself or for you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He would teach
you to understand that you have not learned the lessons of fully being loving,
for were you being fully loving you would not have said the words.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Further, were you fully loving you would
not have been offended by someone’s words that caused offense.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you are truly understanding of your
growth as a Teacher, there is no offense received; you simply understand where
this person is coming from, as you would say, because they are immature; they
are undeveloped; they are un-evolved in spirit, and that they say these
offensive things because they do not know any better.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And being in the Teacher position, you
know those things about that person and do not react to his or her words.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So there is a duty involved in
the process of forgiveness:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>one is
to forgive the person who said something or did something offensive to you,
knowing that they did not know any better; and second, is that you forgive
yourself for reacting, because you did not know any better, and that you need to
grow and learn to be more loving.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Feeling offense is an energetic reaction of an un-evolved spiritual
being.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have work to do—this is
what it says to you, when you feel angry at some situation for something that
somebody said.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It means that you
have work to do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And then the
question is, “What is this about in me?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Where do I need to grow?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What do I need to see to become more completely full, mature and evolved,
so that I do not become angry and need to forgive someone else, and forgive
myself and evolve?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The feelings that you receive
from others, whether it is anger, resentment, jealousy, envy, lust or hate, are
all reactions within you of incompleteness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are statements that say, “I need to
grow.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the more you live in
negative emotional reactions is a statement to your life that you need to grow
immensely, to grow greatly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you
grow in fullness of your being—meaning the fullness of your capacity to
love—these negative emotions will no longer pervade your being, but you will be
filled and shot through with love and forgiveness, forbearance, tolerance and
patience, to name only a few.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These
are the areas to grow into.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you
grow in these positive values and positive emotional reactions, you will have
grown in spirit, so that you will be un-offended by someone who has said
something negative to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank
you for allowing me to expound on this.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for expounding on this!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So this explains why some people seem
sincere in their forgiveness to another, but then cannot sustain that
forgiveness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is that close?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Monjoronson:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Exactly!)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I’m going to move to questions
that have more of a global direction.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>My first has a preamble, that I have written, and it says:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can see that it is much easier to
forgive another when there has been a history of a loving relationship, such as
you have with a family member or a friend.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>However, when individuals are asked to forgive an entity so large as a
nation, a religion or an arm of government, it’s easy to depersonalize and fall
back on deep feelings of oppression that have lasted for generations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How should we then proceed in a way that
produces a lasting effect?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In other
words, where do we begin?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You always begin with yourself, and you
begin with the individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You make
a mistake of hating nations and hating cultures and ethnic groups as a
generality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This leads you into
impersonalising your own feelings for yourself and your own nation and your own
people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Nations are not
individuals; nations do not have souls—neither do organizations have souls or
personality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They have none of
those characteristics, which would assist them to surpass this mortal lifetime
into the afterlife, and proceed towards Havona and Paradise.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>These are temporary
organizations which you have personified, and your personification of these
nations gives rise in you to hold hostility against many people, whereas if you
were to relate to one individual of that nation, you would probably find them
worthy and deserving of your affection and your attention, your presence in
their life, and you would be curious to know more about them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Nations are not people; they are not
individuals; you miss the point of your growth when you personify groups of
people and say they are good or bad.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They are not individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You would be better to look at the intentions of those groups, those
collective bodies, and see what is it that these people are striving to do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is it that makes them hostile?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is it that makes them violent?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is it that they are lacking?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For when you address what individuals
are lacking within a group, you will begin to erode the impersonal nature of
those people; you will see them as needy and needful; you will see them as
needing to grow in their culture to become “one” in the world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is it that they need to be a
sustainable citizen with you, with the world?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That explains a lot, “the disconnect”
that I feel sometimes when leaders are not assisting individuals in their
populations to forgive and move on and unify.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And yet, there are times, I’m sure, when
individual factional<SPAN style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>groups that live
side-by-side like in the Middle East, actually develop friendship with
individuals of the other faction.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
have always felt that there was a disconnect.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we take those two processes and
bring them together?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not sure
if I am making sense here.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, and if you are able to see this
disconnect, if you are able to see how political leaders manipulate their people
and manipulate everyone to “get onboard,” on the same direction, then you will
have discovered a great deal about how nations gain identity.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This whole process is a huge element
that we must overcome before the earliest stages of light and life can begin to
appear in your world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>National
identity, national images must be dissolved, so that all people of all nations
see each other around the world as one, as one nation, one people, one
civilization, one culture.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You see
now why it will take decades and centuries for us to overcome this.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a sense of identity, of national
ego, of separatism that must be overcome.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These are the very fundamentals of what you have been asking about.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, they are.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During the truth and reconciliation
hearings of South Africa, following the apartheid, the intent was to promote
healing and national unity through forgiveness, and the main objective was to
uncover the truth about past abuse, using amnesty as a mechanism, rather than
punishing crimes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It appears from
the studies done, afterward, that the level of healing for those who
participated, varied considerably—which I would expect, since we are all in a
different place in our development and in our healing—but that much was gained
in understanding the process and the many contributing factors to so much
oppression.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you see this as a viable option to
promote global peace among nations?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If so, in what ways?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B> Yes, it is a
very valuable process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It requires
a very higher mind for doing this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It draws a line in the sand of time, stating all before this is
history.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not a matter of
forgiveness or retribution for past actions; they simply are seen as
non-existing so that from this moment forward, all is new, and that those who
had created great violence, if they were to live in peace, they would not be
harmed, they would not be bothered about what occurred in the past, because the
past is virtually non-existent any more.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It relieves the mind of having to
remember vengeance, remembering the incidents and having to act out vengeance
for those past atrocities, crimes or difficulties on both sides.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amnesty and this process says, as of
this date, the past no longer exists; we are “one” now and let us live as
“one.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are the truth in reconciliation hearings
similar to a process we may participate in during our ascension career?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your education begins truly in the
mansion worlds, where you learn everything that is new and worthwhile.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will not be bothered about the
crimes and sins of your life, but only the positive attributes and experiences
that you bring forward that will contribute to the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The amnesty and forgiveness are issues
for this material world as a higher-minded compromise situation, which allows
all parties to move forward peacefully, while still recognizing those things
that occurred.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your tribunals will
occur during your ascension—this world is in a particular situation where each
individual is assessed as they make their migration to the mansion worlds.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those individuals who are so adamantly
against moving ahead or accepting their part in the universe, who deny their
sonship with God, who live and desire to live in iniquity do not move
forward.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They wish to remain in
ignorance, no matter what light is given them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Perhaps I have gone astray from your
question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson, for that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are often asked to separate
“judgment” from the act of forgiveness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Can you give us some guidelines on how to do that?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First of all, judgment is an act of
separation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Judgment pushes the
other person away at arms length and farther saying, “We are separate, we are
apart.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Judgment also creates
separation from yourself and the oneness of God, the oneness with your Thought
Adjuster.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Judgment is a conscious
decision; it may only take a fraction of a second to assume, but it causes
separation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Any form of separation
from others also keeps you in separation from your connection with your Thought
Adjuster, from Christ Michael, from Jesus and from the First Source and
Center.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Judgment is as much an act
against yourself as it is against the person to whom you have judgment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, it is that position similar to
forgiveness; it is a parallel; it is a summation of non-forgiveness—it says,
“You are apart from me, and be gone from me,” and it puts you in the position of
arrogance, saying that you are better, where in fact, un-forgiveness and
judgment operate on similar levels and keep you apart from moving into wholeness
with your emotions, with the higher values of the universe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does this make sense to you?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it does.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In understanding it, the way to separate
yourself from it then is to basically refuse to be a part of that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is that correct?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Judgment is a conclusion to
unforgiveness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a statement
that “I am unforgiving.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It also
says, ironically, that you are incapable of learning.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson, for that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m sure you’ve covered some of this
already, but it is so common to hear, that I would like you to speak to it, if
you may.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s common to hear
someone say, “I will forgive this person, but I will not forget what he or she
has done.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can you speak to this,
please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This can operate on several levels.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is that they truly forgive that
individual, knowing that that instant will always remain in memory.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is hoped for from your Guardians
and your Thought Adjuster is that as you say, “I forgive,” you also defuse the
energy in the image that is held in memory, so that it becomes a neutral
memory—a photograph negative without energy—there is no color to it, it is
simply black and white, it is static, it does not move, it is simply a recording
in your mind without energy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All
too often, people say, “I forgive you, but I do not forget,” meaning that they
are ready and armed in the future for this person to act out again, and they
hold energy about that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In other
words, they have perhaps intellectualized their forgiveness without defusing the
energy, and they are intentionally protecting themselves from acting out, that
they remind themselves to hold this in memory, but have forgiven it, ready to
pull the trigger on their unforgiveness in the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Truly, if you say, “I forgive you but I
will remember this,” and honestly say that you remember it but do not hold any
grudges and readiness to strike out in the future, then you live in a spiritual
reality that maximizes your capacity as a mortal of Urantia.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One last question:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For those who have a personal
relationship with God, it has been suggested to ask for spiritual guidance in
the healing process, yet on our planet there are many who do not acknowledge the
existence of God.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This leaves them
limited to philosophical or intellectual paths in their quest to forgive or to
be forgiven.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this enough to heal
them?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, it is not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One must first have these very, very
rudiments of belief that God is present and God has a plan for their growth, and
this is called “hope.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hope is just
the first of the five-step tier towards knowing that there is a plan and knowing
that it includes them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hope that
God does exist, and that they ask for guidance and forgiveness is the very
rudimentary beginnings of growth and forgiveness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The next would be “faith.” and after
that would be “belief.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The next is
“trust,” and the last is “knowing.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When you trust in God’s existence, and trust that God forgives you, you
trust that this is so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>However, when you <B>know</B>
God exists, and you <B>know</B> God forgives, you <B>know</B> that you have been
forgiven, and you know that there is nothing held against you, and you know that
you will not make that mistake again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You know that your personal relationship with God exists because you have
experienced it!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when you have
forgiven another, you experience the same release that you received when you
felt God’s forgiveness for you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So
you become very much more than you were in the past.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those at the bottom rung of belief,
which is hope, have the beginnings to do this, to progress.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But to intellectualize and philosophize
about it is insufficient; this is simply a mind-centered, linear activity of
intelligence, rather than a heart-centered presence of knowing that there is a
possibility or hope that you will be forgiven, as you hope that God exists to do
so.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wow!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson, for that and
also you anticipated that I would want to know what those five tiers were.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you again.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This concludes my questions, unless you
have something that you would like to contribute more to the session?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have enjoyed this session very much; I
have enjoyed the thematic portion of it as well, and you are most welcome to
engage in what I would call “personalized curiosity questions,” that emanate
from your heart, rather than use curiosity questions that emanate from your
mind—if you know the difference.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
is simply those curiosity questions that you would ask another who you do not
know well, but whom you have met and who you have engaged in, whose presence you
enjoy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a way to get to know
each other.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I eventually will be
personalized in your presence; I will be more than an energetic emanation from
Paradise—I will be here in the flesh.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And yes, you will have a reaction to that which would be one of awe and
one of being stunned into stillness, yet there is the eventuality just as
Machiventa experienced among his friends, that his presence made them feel at
ease, and once they began to be comfortable with that awe and respect they felt
for him, they began to ask him about himself and why he was there.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so it will be too, with you and your
progeny, as they become able to know me more personally in the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So please feel comfortable with me and
begin to understand and know the beginnings of a personal relationship with
spirit, even one who is from the Divine realm.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Vicki:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Monjoronson.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Actually, you have put me at ease
through my first conversation with you in this format, and I look forward to
your personalization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
concludes our session.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 12pt 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you very much.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good day.</P>
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