<div>I concur, Henry.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Warren/Marshal<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:28 PM, henry zeringue <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hzer1@crestviewcable.com">hzer1@crestviewcable.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial">Great clarity on the present social issues facing
us as a culture, and their spiritual counterparts.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">........thanks for these sessions, you guys are
certainly polishing your technique....h/z</font></div>
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<a title="606agondonter@comcast.net" href="mailto:606agondonter@comcast.net" target="_blank">Roxanne Andrews</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>To:</b> <a title="tml@circuit1.teamcircuits.com" href="mailto:tml@circuit1.teamcircuits.com" target="_blank">[tml]</a> ; <a title="tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com" href="mailto:tmtranscripts@circuit1.teamcircuits.com" target="_blank">[tmtranscripts]</a>
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b> [tmtranscripts] CWM #38, Jan.
13, 2012</div>
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<h1 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size:14pt"><font color="#800000">Conversations With Monjoronson, #38 – Social Evolution - Jan 13,
2012<u></u><u></u></font></span></h1>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Topics:</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">Lessons to be learned from
disappointments<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">How do the individuals in the borderland
live?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">Many on Urantia are unsure of
afterlife<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">The ultimaton particle<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">The Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street
movements<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">Celestial participation in our social
evolution<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">What comes next developmentally?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">The Declaration of Independence as it applies to core
values<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:green">What is the paradigm shift we are looking for?</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt">TR:<span> </span>Daniel Raphael</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Moderator:<span> </span>Michael McCray</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h2 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="3">January 13, 2012</font></h2>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Prayer:<span> </span><i>Heavenly Father, we once again
gather in your loving presence, grateful for this opportunity to meld our
consciousness with spirit so that we can co-create a better future for
Urantia.<span> </span>We bask in your light,
ever thankful for all that you have made possible, our meaningful lives and
spiritual growth.<span>
</span>Amen.<u></u><u></u></i></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><i> <u></u><u></u></i></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:<span> </span></b>Good morning, Monjoronson.<span> </span>How are you this morning?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Good morning.<span> </span>Oh, it is a fine day in Paradise!<span> </span>The sun always shines and emanates
around all of Havona, so that we live in the perennial light of God.<span> </span>It is an experience that you will
awaken to early in your morontial lives, as you bask in God’s light and love,
of the Creator Son who creates the worlds on which you live.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Do you have anything that you would
like to dialog about today, before we start with some questions?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>This one is a bit lethargic, so let us
proceed with your questions, please.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">Lessons to be
learned from disappointments</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Okay.<span> </span>We have recently published all of the
questions and answers that had been withheld, but I don’t feel that everything
is completely settled yet.<span> </span>Is
there something to be learned from the fact that even though there were
reports that you would incarnate before Christmas you did not arrive?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Yes, there are numerous lessons
involved in that failure.<span> </span>First
is that readers must believe<span style="color:red"> </span>in what I
say.<span> </span>I said many months and years
ago that my arrival would not be according to a schedule, or set by time.<span> </span>It would not be predictable by any
mortals when that would occur, and that it would not be revealed by myself or
my team and associates, until I had arrived incarnate on your world.<span> </span>One of the lessons from that is that
the word of a Divine Being is sure, it is steadfast, it is not wavering.<span> </span>Once it is stated, you can predicate
your decisions upon that.<span> </span>The
second lesson is that the readers were undiscerning of that truth, and that
there was some misstep in their thinking, which caused them to arrive at that
conclusion.<span> </span>The third part is
that Divine Beings are unwavering, but true, steadfast, predictable and that
their word can be counted on.<span> </span>You
do not live in a fickle universe, managed by a fickle God, or that the
companions of God in Paradise are fickle either.<span> </span>Truths of the Creator Sons are as
unwavering as that of those from Havona and Paradise.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Circumstances do change on
material worlds, in the material dimensions, due to decisions that are made by
those beings, which affect the developmental plans for those worlds.<span> </span>This causes delays in the arrival of
Avonal Sons, for instance.<span> </span>It
also prepares the way for their earlier arrival, when mortals prepare their
own consciousness and the consciousness of their world for the arrival of a
Divine Being.<span> </span>Humans, mortals,
have tremendous control in participating in the development of those
plans.<span> </span>That is why when one wills
to do God’s Will, and lives their lives in alignment with God’s Will, then
they are preparing the way for the earliest developmental plan that is
available.<span> </span>Your world is fraught
with many difficulties; large sections of your population hold a vile
consciousness, which is contrary to the Divine Order of the Father’s
outworking on your world.<span> </span>This
creates an eminent delay.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">My arrival is not predicated
upon the right and perfect thinking of a small group of people, but in
preparation for your entire world.<span>
</span>The work of some of your people to uplift the global consciousness of
your world, to participate in the conscious evolution of this world is primary
to my arrival.<span> </span>It is increasingly
important that numbers of population of earth begin to participate in this
conscious evolution.<span> </span>Again, we
all shouted a “Hooray!” that mortals had begun to participate intentionally in
the conscious evolution of their world.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Do you believe that there are
any other aspects that were not covered by myself in my statement?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Well, it’s difficult as a human,
reading the transcripts and dealing with our day-to-day [life], we are asked
to be both discerning and open-minded.<span>
</span>The difficulty comes in trying to balance these two-paired
opposites.<span> </span>Would you speak a
little about that?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>That is a good question, and the
answer is quite simple:<span> </span>When one
is discerning, one looks to the history of those facts that were
presented.<span> </span>When one is
open-minded, one looks to the future.<span>
</span>Applying the discerning mind to open-minded events means that you will
allow them to come into your world and to withhold judgment or opinionation
until after they have occurred.<span>
</span>Then you will reflect upon them and discern, weigh, sort and sift what
matches that discerned history, and what does not.<span> </span>When one is discerning about past
events, you are able to, with the Spirit of Truth, the Christ presence in you,
you are able to discern those things which are real and authentic, and will
perpetuate themselves into the future.<span>
</span>This is the foundation of truth upon which you would rest the new
developments that come into your world, and discern them based on the truths
that you are aware of.<span> </span>It is also
exceptionally important—perhaps even primary—to the whole process that you are
discerning of your own thinking, that you begin to discern those passions,
those wishes of yours that a certain event or development would come into
being.<span> </span>What did Jesus say about
that?<span> </span>You must throw down your
most cherished wishes to allow the truth to come forward—to paraphrase
him.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">How do the
individuals in the borderland live?</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Thank you.<span> </span>I am still troubled by the thought of
individuals living in the borderland.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>As are we.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>How do these individuals live?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>They maintain their living through
their consciousness.<span> </span>The
consciousness that exists in you as material, living mortals, exists in those
who have passed, but who are not accepting of an afterlife that is positive
and in the<span> </span>light of God.<span> </span>Consciousness is far more existent
than most mortals realize.<span> </span>We
have touched on the reality of consciousness as a non-material,
non-dimensional, non-temporal existence, and that it does not fade from the
larger reality upon the death of the individual.<span> </span>This consciousness can be dormant, as
in the sleeping survivors; it can pass on to the morontial in the
reconstruction of individuals.<span> </span>It
is existent, [but] undecipherable to mortals.<span> </span>Consciousness is subject to your
will.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">When individuals, who do not
believe and who have not willed themselves to pass into the morontial realm by
doing God’s Will in the material realm they subject themselves to a suspended
consciousness in what you call the borderland.<span> </span>It is important, [and] Jesus<span style="color:red"> </span>was most emphatic about choosing, educating his
followers to do the Father’s Will, to consciously “will” to do God’s Will in
their lives, and that to will themselves to follow that guidance that he
provided in order for them to occupy the mansions, which he alluded to.<span> </span>What is also primary to the passing
into the morontial realm upon your death is the conscious awareness of your
existence.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Many, if not most, of the
beings in the borderland have never been conscious of their existence; they
have never been reflective of their living in the world, to reflect upon their
actions and decisions—or have done so, but made no decisions about that.<span> </span>The ones in the borderland are curious
exceptions in the mortal existence and in the mansion world existence.<span> </span>They are in need of education, even
awareness of their existence and the choices that they have in that existence,
to move on.<span> </span>When one is aware,
there is no going back to ignorance.<span>
</span>When you, my friends, make these individuals in the borderland aware of
their existence, and aware of their capacity to make a decision to move on,
they are subtly informed that [at] that moment, they can make a decision to
change their whereabouts, and move from the borderland into the morontial
realm.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>So consciousness is what enables them
to “live” but the fact that they are not completely aware, traps them before
they can get to the next phase in their existence?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Yes, this says so much about your life
as an incarnate being, with consciousness and awareness.<span> </span>It says so much about what you can do
to affect your afterlife, here in this mortal, material realm.<span> </span>This is one of the most important
facets of material existence—to become aware of your existence and the choices
that you have in this world.<span> </span>Very
few people choose the way of evil when they become aware that God is
benevolent and has provided an afterlife, which is beneficial, helpful, joyful
and filled with light always.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">Many on Urantia
are unsure of afterlife</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>It seems that there is on Urantia a
paucity of people that understand that there is an afterlife.<span> </span>Most people are unsure.<span> </span>This is one of the reasons that they
hang on so desperately to living through those last two weeks of life, living
on medical care, to try to sustain that life.<span> </span>They are afraid that the end of this
life is the end.<span> </span>Would you like
to speak to that?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>That is unfortunate.<span> </span>It is part of the legacy of the
Luciferian debacle, that there was ingrained in the consciousness of humanity
that the afterlife was non-existent, that this is all there is, and that you
should live your life for yourself and consider nothing else.<span> </span>It is perhaps one of the most evil
depositions instilled in the human genetic code, and in the consciousness of
mortals in time.<span> </span>It was easy to
believe and easy to be accepted, and so it was ingrained quickly into the
genetic, hereditary code of mortals at that time, which now still
persists.<span> </span>It is an unfortunate
development.<span> </span>That is why we are
going to such great lengths to tell you about the borderland existence and the
importance of your awareness and capacity to make decisions effectively about
your current life, which have a legacy for you in the afterlife, in the
mansion worlds.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">The ultimaton
particle</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>In your recent discussion about
consciousness, you said, ”As your scientists are able to isolate their work
with this particle, they will realize that it is totally susceptible to
consciousness.”<span> </span>Were you
referring to the Higgs particle or the ultimaton?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>I was referring to the ultimaton.<span> </span>It’s been called the—the ultimaton and
the adamantine particle—it is the particle which can have mass or not have
mass, dependant upon the signature given to it by the Architects of the
universe and by the Will of God.<span>
</span>It is influenced, of course, by the consciousness of God to out-form
the physical manifestation of the universe at all levels and all
dimensions.<span> </span>It is used in the
other dimensional realities, which <i>The Urantia Book</i> describes.<span> </span>It is primary to all that exists in
the world.<span> </span>You, quite literally,
live in the “soup” of God, the consciousness of God that is manifest in these
particles all around you.<span> </span>Your
material universe, the finite—I would say the material universe, rather than
the finite universe, as there are huge swaths of the finite universe, which
are not material yet—that you live in the consciousness of God, it is manifest
in the materiality of your body, and the air that you breathe, and even in the
vacuous, emptiness of what you call “space,” which is not empty, but
thoroughly filled with the presence of God.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">They will, in years to come, as
your scientists become much more thoroughly acquainted and knowledgeable about
this particle, they will be in awed wonderment about what they are working
with and what they are becoming aware of.<span> </span>It will be at that time, following
decades, even centuries ahead, that the fullness of these immature thoughts of
your scientists will begin to develop into a complete awareness and
appreciation of the material and non-material, the spiritual and the material
universe.<span> </span>There will not be the
ignorance about the complete existence, the reality of the universe, but an
awareness and appreciation for how it was so infinitely, Divinely, brought
into existence and the pattern and order of it, that affects all of the
universe that you see and do not see.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">The Arab Spring
and Occupy Wall Street movements</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Wow!<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">The Arab Spring, Occupy Wall
Street and similar movements, at face value, would seem to be very dissimilar,
but at the core, I think all of these movements represent peoples’
dissatisfaction with what they see as the denial of one or more of the three
core values we have been discussing.<span>
</span>Would you like to comment on this?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Yes.<span> </span>It is very much like the blind man
examining the elephant, that one sees the tail and describes it as thus and
so, and one describes a leg, and one describes the trunk, as so on.<span> </span>What you are observing is the human
behavior in social structures, which express themselves only to the limit that
they are able, within those social structures.<span> </span>If you live in a dictatorship, you
would be in tremendous awe to be given the rights that Americans and Europeans
enjoy, the democratic rights and privileges that those citizens enjoy in their
countries.<span> </span>Yet, within those
maturing democracies, there is dissatisfaction by citizens with the capacity
to be self-determining of their lives, that they are not granted sufficient
rights and privileges in their democratic countries to fulfill their needs as
they see them—not speaking about desires, but needs.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">The hierarchy of needs is from
the very lowest of simple survival—which means taking your next breath, having
enough food to eat and to keep you for a few days—to be secure enough that you
can live more easily and exist.<span>
</span>There is survival existence of maintenance and sustainability.<span> </span>When one individual, or a whole
society, has satisfied their needs, they begin yearning for more, and more,
and more, until they are completely in total self-determination of their
environment, the environment that affects them, what some call the “affective
environment.”<span> </span>That is why many
people in the United States, a highly developed, prosperous democracy, yearn
to have millions of dollars.<span> </span>They
feel that this will provide them with the capacity of self-determination, that
they can use this money to open opportunities to satisfy old needs—whether
they are houses or cars, or corporations or bank accounts, or whatever that
may be—yet, most of you know, that money is only a tool, that it is a means to
an end, rather than an end in itself.<span>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">You here, in the United States,
look to the people who are participating in the uprisings and demonstrations
of the Arab Spring and pity them that they do not have the rights that you are
dissatisfied with.<span> </span>You, in your
own lives, wish to have more, to participate more, and more effectively in
your governmental processes that affect you intimately in your life.<span> </span>And as you look to your life in the
future, you feel as though your nation is out of control, in that those who
are in control are unaware of the domination that they are having over your
personal life, so it is all relative.<span>
</span>Your social existence is evolutionary, as well as developmental.<span> </span>Your societies must evolve in order to
begin to satisfy the burgeoning needs that come to the surface in your
life.<span> </span>Those of you in developed
and maturing democracies are feeling this need for greater control in your
life.<span> </span>You must interpret this
need for control in words that make more sense to your democratic
process.<span> </span>Do you understand what I
am saying?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>And what would that sound like, if we
were to interpret our wish for control in ways that made more sense to our
democratic process?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>That you would have more participation
in how those decisions are made, which affect your life.</p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b> <u></u><u></u></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b> <u></u><u></u></b></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">Celestial
participation in our social evolution</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><strong> <u></u><u></u></strong></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Very good.<span> </span>I believe that you said that you—the
larger “you”—were working on changing the culture so that people mattered
more.<span> </span>Am I correct in believing
that there is some output from on High in changing the way that we think?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Yes, most definitely.<span> </span>As part of moving your world into the
days of light and life, there are two essential venues that we work [in]:<span> </span>One is in the minds of individuals,
and the other is in the social consciousness of your societies, how your
social structures are put together and the ethos of those social
organizations.<span> </span>As you know, we
are very busy and involved in uplifting the minds of individuals and through
many means we’ve spoken of that.<span>
</span>What we are doing now is to begin influence upon the social
organizations—and by “social” I also mean political and economic and
corporate, and so on—wherever human activities are centered, to give a greater
appreciation for people, for individuals, to value them, to increase their
value.<span> </span>It is important that the
value of people and individuals begin to be incorporated into the ethos and
policies of organizations.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">We could not do this, of
course, if it were not developmentally timely to do so.<span> </span>That is why I spoke just recently, a
moment ago, about the development in western and maturing democracies for a
need by individuals to have more control in their life.<span> </span>When you give individuals value, how
do you do that?<span> </span>You do that by
improving the quality of their participation in the events and decision-making
processes and policy decisions that control and dominate your societies.<span> </span>The activities of the Occupy Wall
Street and the other occupy activities are directly related to this.<span> </span>These are individuals who, while
enjoying the privileges and benefits and rights of a matured democracy, yearn
for greater opportunity to express their potential.<span> </span>They understand their value, as a
person, and they want to express that and develop that in their society.<span> </span>If you are a very intelligent,
cultured, educated individual, and you are out of work, your wish is to place
yourself in an employment situation, or accept or create an opportunity in
which you can begin to live more fully and wholly, to express the potential
that is within you.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Your nation, as other
democracies, is bursting at the seams with incredibly intelligent, educated,
cultured individuals who have no means of even partial expression of their
potential, and many of them have no hope of ever doing so.<span> </span>Frustrations of this population are
very much like the frustrations of the French Revolutionaries, during the
French Revolution.<span> </span>They were
hungry for bread; they wanted and needed to be sustained, just as you, an
educated, cultured and intelligent individual.<span> </span>The bread of life for them is to
experience the expression of themselves in society.<span> </span>You take food for granted; you take
your democratic rights and privileges for granted.<span> </span>Now what?<span> </span>There is no answer to the “Now what?”
in your society at this time.<span> </span>It
is very important that in our process, that in our planning and development,
of moving your societies into the next evolutionary step, that this be done
peacefully.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">There quite literally is no
room any longer for violent revolution, but silent and powerful evolution,
conscious evolution of your social processes.<span> </span>This is where the Most Highs are
highly active.<span> </span>In many ways, your
corporate structures, your corporate environment is far, far, far ahead of the
almost primitive democratic processes of your government.<span> </span>This is not to isolate the process of
government from the populace of your nation at all, for you are “one,”—one is
not separated from the other, but your culture has moved ahead of the
democratic process upon which this country was established, in ways which far
exceed the government’s capacity to satisfy.<span> </span>There is a need for a violent
evolution to go on, even a vocal evolution to go on, a deliberate and
intentional evolution to go on, but not a revolution.<span> </span>In planetary management, when a planet
develops to this state of existence, where it is fully inhabited and there is
a global communication network, and the education and literacy level of
populations is fairly high, there is a tremendous need for side-stepping
revolution, which would move your populace backwards into greater military or
tribunal control.<span> </span>This is not a
tolerable situation for us, as we have invoked the planning process that is
moving your whole world population into its evolutionary stages, one culture
at a time.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">We hope you realize that your
democratic nations are a democratic culture that we are working with.<span> </span>We have little overt capacity to amend
those nations where there is tyranny, where there are dictatorships, military
tribunals, martial law and autocratic control.<span> </span>We work with individuals in those
situations, to lay the seeds for sprouting, for a “new spring,” such as what
you see in the Arab Spring.<span> </span>These
are all timely developmentally and we act instrumentally in urging and pushing
the next evolutionary step into existence.<span> </span>When you think of social evolution,
think in terms of paradigm shifts, not just developmental growth in your
world, in your nations, but innovative, evolutionary changes that appear to
traditional people to be quite radical, but which are a natural development of
the old paradigm and its necessity to be birthed, to be brought forward by God
conscious individuals.<span> </span>So I hope
you are beginning to see that the development of a global consciousness that
is God-centered and of the light helps bring about the social evolution of
your world, of your nations and cultures and societies.<span> </span>When you see these developments, such
as Occupy Wall Street, and the Arab Spring, you are beginning to see the
necessity of the birthing of the next paradigm, and these will be made known
to you easily within the next five years, if not much, much sooner.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>As I’m looking at the Arab Spring and
the Occupy Wall Street movements, I can see that this theme of valuing
individuals coming out and being expressed in both of those areas, certainly
they must be expressed in much different ways, because in the Arab Spring,
obviously, that we are dealing with a situation where the people there do not
have the benefits of democracy that we have here in this country.<span> </span>I can see what you mean by revolution
in our country, by revolution setting us back, it would not be a good idea for
us to have revolution.<span> </span>We need to
move to the next level, and that next level is?<span> </span>As you say, corporations, businesses
move much more rapidly than our government.<span> </span>In businesses, they look at their
employees—at least at their valued employees—as valuable assets.<span> </span>In government, not so much.<span> </span>So, it seems to be where we need to
move to, to the value of the individual.<span>
</span>Can you help me here in making that next step in my thinking?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">What comes next
developmentally?</font></u></h3>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">The question I had is
basically, what comes next?<span> </span>What,
developmentally comes next in at least the United States?<span> </span>We need to expand the individual’s
ability to be fulfilled, to grow, within government, the person’s ability to
participate in government?<span> </span>Is
that going to be the next developmental step that America needs to take?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>As I listen carefully to your words,
you perhaps, when you talk about participating more directly in their
government, you are talking about a direct democracy, and there will almost
never be a functional direct democracy that comes into existence until the
days of light and life, many centuries ahead.<span> </span>What our desires are is to improve
those areas, those three fundamental values of sustainability, in the lives of
every individual person, and that is to improve the quality of their life, the
quality of their living.<span> </span>This
surely does not necessarily mean more money in the bank, or bigger houses, or
fancier cars.<span> </span>Secondly, there
must develop an increase in the equality of life among all people.<span> </span>This does not require that everyone be
given a house with 2,000 square feet, and that they have two cars in the
garage, and so on.<span> </span>Equality in
sustainable terms means that everyone has equal access to the opportunities
and resources to improve the quality of life and living.<span> </span>These two things together provide for
growth and development, the unfoldment of potential that lies within each
individual to the extent of their capability.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">A person who is treated
inequitably, who has an IQ of 85, because they have an IQ of 85, does not mean
that they want to stay in the limitations of their life, but they want to
express the capacity to grow into larger dimensions of existence.<span> </span>The same can be said of a person with
185 IQ; they have the same needs, and that is to grow into the potential that
they wish to express, and in order to do that, society must offer them
opportunities for involvement and development of that level.<span> </span>This only explores the dimensions of
intelligence; it does not explore the development of a well-balanced and
developed emotionality of an individual, which is necessary for a sustainable
social existence that allows an individual to grow into their social
potential.<span> </span>I offer that second
area for the comparison between these two.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">The emphasis in all our work is
to improve the quality of life and living for individuals, as we know from
millions of years of experience of managing planets and moving them towards
the days of light and life, that as people’s lives increase in quality, that
they begin to explore the quality of their own being, and become curious about
the quality of their relationship with the infinite and the Divine.<span> </span>It is all just as Jesus expressed in
his life on earth, to improve the quality of a relationship between the
individual and God.<span> </span>That is why
he made that huge paradigm of spiritual belief that God is no longer outside
of you, as was taught in the Hebrew religion, but that God is within you.<span> </span>The dimensions [of] that in thought
and action are huge, and the possibilities that people begin to include that
within their thoughts and their lives, helps them to approach the Divine in
their ascendant career.<span>
</span>Therefore, our work that we do with you is to assist you to improve
your way of life, the quality of your life in all dimensions, all realms, all
parameters.<span> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">The compromise on your world is
that your world is over-burdened by a huge population, which is out of
proportion to the capacity of your planet to give everyone an equal quality of
life.<span> </span>Therefore, some of you have
many resources and many do not.<span>
</span>Those who do not have many resources are not able to grow; they do not
have equal access to opportunities, and life is quite miserable for them.<span> </span>Were your world population to be
halved to 3.5 billion, you would then be at the maximum this planet is capable
of offering a reasonable life to, with potential and growth equal to those of
other people.<span> </span>I do not want to
get into specific developments that we are involved in—these will be revealed
to you in time, during your lifetime, and particularly in the next few
years—and in a few years, I mean from this year, to the next 20 years or
so.<span> </span>You will live long enough to
see your world and the social evolution of your world, engage this next
paradigm in a very powerful way.<span>
</span>Social change in your world is moving so rapidly that it cannot help
but engage this paradigm change soon—and of course, that is developmental as
well.<span> </span>There is no timetable for
that.<span> </span>We approximate its approach
within the next 3 to 15 years.<span> </span>It
could take longer; it could begin earlier.<span> </span>It is completely developmental and the
plans of God cannot be rushed in eternity.</p>
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<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">The Declaration
of Independence as it applies to core values</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>You mentioned a paradigm shift.<span> </span>Our Declaration of Independence comes
close, perhaps as close as an 18<sup>th</sup> century public document could to
the three core values we have been speaking of, when it says that, “all Men
are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of
Happiness.”<span> </span>This document is one
of the biggest reasons that we, in the United States, are the longest-lived
democracy in the history of the world.<span>
</span>Am I correct in my thinking about this?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>Yes, this is correct.<span> </span>This document was written with Divine
intervention, with Divine participation.<span>
</span>It does not necessarily make the United States a “special
country.”<span> </span>It does not set it
apart from the vagaries and vicissitudes of life and decimation and
termination of other countries.<span>
</span>It is as equally susceptible as any other nation if it does not move
itself into the next stages of its evolution.<span> </span>The key word is “equal,” as God sees
each of you as equal, equally worthy of being invested with a fragment of Its
existence, which does not compare to any other investment that can be made in
anyone’s life.<span> </span>God appreciates
you and loves you and cares for you, and [has] provided you with the means by
which you can grow to approximate Its existence, Its very self in Paradise in
the eventuality of time.<span> </span>So the
key word is “equality.”</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">Other key words are
“life.”<span> </span>You have two of the words
that sustain all life.<span> </span>The three
core values of sustainability are life and equality; the other is “growth,”
which is provided for in “Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”<span> </span>You cannot be happy if you are not
free.<span> </span>You cannot grow if you do
not have liberty and freedom, so incorporated in the meaning of the third
value of sustainability is growth.<span>
</span>To be able to grow, you have to have liberty and freedom and pursue
that at your own free will.<span> </span>This
is self-determination, which is one of the most fundamental needs of human
existence.<span> </span>So therefore, you have
the three core values, embedded within the document that helped found this
nation, and help found other democracies, in one fashion or another, as it is
described in the originating document.<span>
</span>It is fundamental to the continuation of this nation.<span> </span>However, the arrogance of this nation
as being the longest-lived democracy—and its arrogance is seen in the
domination of many world events—is an arrogance which will assist it to become
humble one day.<span> </span>Our intention,
our purpose to continue the sustainability of this nation—as it provides a
working model for other nations—now is the time for this nation to begin its
birthing into its next paradigm, but done peacefully and carefully and
thoughtfully, to one which gives equal value of importance to its
citizens.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<h3 style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><u><font color="#008000" size="3">What is the
paradigm shift we are looking for?</font></u></h3>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:<span> </span></b>Yes, America is not the only
country to receive Divine help.<span>
</span>But what is the next stage in our evolution?<span> </span>What’s the paradigm shift that we are
looking for?</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>When I speak of a paradigm shift in
your society and western democracies, I am speaking about a societal as well
as a cultural paradigm shift.<span> </span>It
will affect all aspects of your lives—of your social lives—meaning your
political lives and your social lives.<span>
</span>It is a paradigm shift from the quantitative valuing of individuals to
the qualitative value of individuals.<span>
</span>It will affect the morality; a new morality will come into existence,
which will assist each one of you from your largest organizations down to
individuals to make moral decisions that contribute to the sustainability of
your society.<span> </span>This will be a
paradigm shift of immense proportions that will affect all levels of your
society, and all levels of individuals.<span>
</span>[This] will require vision and revisions in your legislation and in
your laws, but that will develop in time, as an awareness and appreciation is
registered with individuals and those in positions of authority, of the need
to accept that this paradigm is “here,” it is not going away, it will not
disappear and there is no going back to the way business was done in the
past.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MMc:</b><span> </span>Thank you, Monjoronson.<span> </span>I have no further questions for you
today. <span> </span>I wish to thank you for
your candidness and your openness in discussing these things, and thank you
for you help.</p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>MONJORONSON:</b><span> </span>You are most welcome, as we are
thankful to those involved in this process.<span> </span>There are many of you who are reading
these words, or hearing these words that will register with you deeply.<span> </span>Know that when you will to do God’s
Will, you may be called upon to outwork this, even in your society, in ways
that may have surprised you years ago.<span>
</span>I wish you a good day and that this saga will continue, though now you
have the major dots in place to connect and see what lies ahead in a peaceful
world.<span> </span>Thank you and good
day.</p>
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