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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoBodyText><SPAN
style="COLOR: #333399"><STRONG><FONT size=5>Conversations with Monjoronson #40 –
Social Sustainability – Jan. 27, 2012<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">It is time to begin reinventing our social
structures<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Tips for starting a co-creative design
team<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">The slow process of introducing the CCDT concept is
over<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Looking for spontaneous inner commitment of
individuals<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">The lack of concern that social sustainability is a
problem<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Getting co-creative design teams started is a
priority<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Questions from the readers:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Defining individuals that are not doing well in our
society<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">The first five years of life<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Is criminal behavior genetically
determined?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Many aspects of procreation are cultural in
nature<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">On topics of eugenics<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">More questions on the borderland and
grid<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">We must continue to discuss topics on social
sustainability<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Moderator:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Michael McCray</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>January 27,
2012<o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Prayer:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>Our Father Creator, we rest in your
arms of life, knowing and feeling the care that you give us, appreciating all
that you provide.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are concerned
about our individual lives and our lives as a society and communities.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are thankful for someone being in
charge who is the Light and provides a hierarchy of beings who love us as you
love us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You show us the way
forward in spite of our foibles and difficulties and we are so grateful for the
advice and wisdom that you share with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Amen.</I></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Monjoronson, good morning!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How are you today, sir?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am perfect; how about yourself?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Laughter.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m far from perfect.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand that’s going to take a few
years, but I’m working on it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do
you have anything to say to us before we start today?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>It is time to
begin reinventing our social structures</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would like you to see the metaphor of
a card dealer, who is very adept and comfortable with the cards, and so the
dealer places the deck face side down on the felt covered table and spreads all
the cards across the table, so that all are visible from the back.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is time for us to begin turning over
the cards with you, so that you begin to see each facet, each part, each card
that will come into play in the future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We have provided this in a very scattered pattern.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now it is time to begin revealing those
aspects concerning your societies, your communities and your social life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the context of the Correcting
Time; it is all about the social context of your lives.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is your societies that need
reinventing, to be recreated, like they are being remodeled and restructured in
the process, but over time they will be completely recreated to operate in a
different way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You can begin to appreciate the
Teaching Mission as teaching individuals a moral, ethical and spiritual life and
how to carry that out in their lives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You can then appreciate more the work of the Magisterial Mission, which
is social, has everything to do with your social institutions, organizations and
social processes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is vitally
important that Teaching Mission graduates, those who have participated in that
process of uplifting their ethical behavior, morality and spirituality become
the principle participants in the work of the Magisterial Mission, to carry out
the re-creation of your social institutions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is vitally important that individuals
within the Magisterial Mission see the larger picture and how to play their
individual part, more carefully, more diligently, conscientiously and
confidently.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>That is why the co-creative
design teams were initially taught to have a spiritual consultant involved, a
Melchizedek, and that the members would consult with their Thought Adjuster,
their Guardian Angel and their own celestial teachers for advice as they
participated in the team.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
very possible—and we know it will be actually done—that there will be
individuals in teams who do not believe in God, but who are nonetheless
committed to the ethical, moral and social upliftment of their planet and their
communities and their societies in the larger sense.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But the mainstay of the long-term work
that we have to do here must and will be done by those who are spiritually
infused and spiritually enthused to see the larger picture and fit the smaller
pieces of their work into that larger picture, in order for social
sustainability to become a real part, an effective and emplaced part of the
Correcting Time.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>Tips for starting
a co-creative design team</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The co-creative design team for
sustainable healthcare that I am coordinating is still in the planning
stages.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am currently gathering
names and I will begin contacting potential members in my area, as soon as I can
secure some reliable transportation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I’m wondering how many other co-creative design teams there are currently
working on this and other topics?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would say that there are many dozens
around this nation and the South American countries that are in the gestative
stage—they have not been “born”, so to speak, they have not initiated their
“coming out” to begin their work—there is still the tentative commitment by many
people to do this work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would
like to say, however, that before long, many of you will have a good deal of
extra time to focus your energies into this project.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of you have very, very busy lives
and have difficulty making a commitment for once a week in one of these
projects.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a project where
those who have spare time will participate, much as they would in a hobby.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When the participants begin to see this
as a hobby, a commitment for long-term, then they will find the time to do
so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If this is not fun, we should
not be doing it; it must be enjoyable, satisfying and give you a sense of
contribution to the fulfillment and development of a maturing community and
society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those of you who are most
competent and capable and educated and experienced are of course the elderly,
the young elderly, those who are over age 50.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are millions of excellent minds
capable of participating in making major contributions to this work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In more succinct terms, it is
unfortunate that I report that there are actually very few operational design
teams, anywhere in the world.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think you’ve answered it very well,
Monjoronson, that there is the potential for these design teams to… and I think
that I understand that too… there is potential for these design teams to come
about, they just need perhaps more impetus—whatever it takes—in order to bring
them about.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This one worked, at a time years ago, in
a retirement community, a living community of approximately 600 inhabitants of
the young elderly, and those who were elder.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There were many who were retired who had
tremendous amounts of spare time, and were searching for meaning, a purpose in
their life, a means of finding meaning in their life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They were living their lives and had the
summation of all their experience, with no way to apply it or to use it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just as the elders of indigenous peoples
are revered for the contributions and the experience and wisdom that they give
to their clan or tribe, so too, this can begin again to be a real part of your
social existence and meaningfulness that millions can look forward to in their
retirement years, and of course, even long before those retirement years.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The book, “Validating Sustainability and
the Schematic for Sustainability” are known by relatively few individuals—I
think that’s the case.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is the plan
for the awareness of these aids to grow slowly?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>The slow process
of introducing the CCDT concept is over</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There has been an attempt on our part to
introduce this slowly, to test these materials and to validate their capacity to
produce positive and constructive results.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Even with strangers, there was a proof of concept demonstration some
years ago and that has been fine-tuned and improved tremendously.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The slow process is over; the capability
of the design team process and validating sustainability, using the schematic,
has been proven to be effective and it is now time to share that—not only just
with dozens of people, but dozens of millions of people—and we will be
attempting to do this beginning this year.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It occurs to me that among institutions
now in existence, universities that grant doctorates in education and medicine
might be willing to perform in an experiment with procreative couples whose
offspring go on into an experimental educational system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you think it would be reasonable to
write a letter to the various department heads, explaining what such a program
might involve?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>Looking for
spontaneous inner commitment of individuals</FONT></U></H1>
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class=MsoNormal><STRONG> <o:p></o:p></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, we do not suggest you take this
approach.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We seek to create a
spontaneous combustion of energy in the communities, to see the validity of the
work that will be published of what we are doing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not promote ourselves or our work
in the ways that you are used to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Western marketing techniques do not prove to be long-lived, or the
results of them tend not to be long-lived.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are looking for the spontaneous inner commitment of individuals who
see the worth and value of this work and want to engage it in their own venues
of their professional work and that of their associates.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The scientists that are being honest
suggest that we cannot sustain the present use of finite resources of our planet
past the next few decades.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Therefore most programs that claim to be sustainable have to do with
conserving resources.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some suggest
that our current monetary-driven world creates and perpetuates the gross
inequalities between people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
appears that they do not yet have the means or the plans to secure a socially
sustainable future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you think it
would be reasonable to contact these programs that wish to become sustainable
with our information about social sustainability?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To our audience who read these
transcripts we submit that as they feel guided, we suggest they introduce these
documents and processes for validating social sustainability projects and social
institutions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This has several
benefits:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It begins to train the
group/readers to become socially active in their communities — if they who know
the way and read the truth, do not act in their world, then who will?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Surely, very few will act, who are
outside of this group, without being introduced to these concepts by our
readers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now is the time for
individuals to take initiation to think of their own networks of associates, and
associations to introduce these materials.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These have been fully validated and are capable of being used in the
“real” world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are most welcome
to duplicate the article, “Validating Social Sustainability,” which contains the
schematic and the three core values of social sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>The lack of
concern that social sustainability is a problem</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is a point that can cause
inquisitive, curious minds to ask for more.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difficulty to date has been the lack
of concern that social sustainability is an issue or a problem.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As we have said before, the
circumstances of your world will change such that social sustainability will
become a primary concern.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A means
of introducing these documents and these processes is far more than just one
avenue of approach—one of which is our readers and followers. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We ask you to introduce these materials
to others, as is appropriate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
are other means, also, which are coming about that you are unaware of, which
will be broached to your culture in this year and coming years.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Time is not running out, but the
developmental stages are such that it is now time to bring these forward.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The developmental program and plan that
we have used to date has become complete.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When that occurs, then it is time to initiate a new program and
plan.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We advise you that ‘you’—meaning
your communities and larger societies—literally have your toes hanging over the
precipice of this brink of tremendous change that will bring about a paradigm
[shift] in your culture.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is
fascinating to us is that there are so very few Urantians who are aware of this
situation, and that it will take most everyone quite by surprise.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This will have an advantage for us, as
it will create tremendous social change, even more than what is occurring now,
such that we can quickly bring the right pieces together so that they make a
‘whole quilt,’ something that has integrity and is continuous and has
congruence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These are the
fundamental elements that are necessary to support a sustainable society, even
when the numbers of the population decrease.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Literally standing on the brink!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, imagine your barefoot toes hanging
over the edge of the Grand Canyon.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If you have ever been to that tremendous physical presence, you will know
what it feels like to have your toes hanging over the edge and a thousand feet
of open space below you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is
where your world is currently pointed.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="COLOR: teal">Getting co-creative design teams started is a
priority<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You made it clear that getting these
co-creative design teams up and running is a priority.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I trust you and I have the hope and
faith that the co-creative design teams, utilizing the three core values and the
other aids that you have given us, will be able to establish plans that will
lead to a completely socially sustainable future for our world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Soon I will be sending short messages to
people who have never heard of you, or any of this, people who may not even know
me, to ask them to take part in the design team process for sustainable
healthcare.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What do you suggest I
include in that message?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will be helpful for you, in your
message to these individuals, to let them know that all the pieces and all the
resources necessary for a sustainable healthcare system, already exist.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They need to be rearranged in a process
and a format that has integrity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The focus of healthcare is to heal the patient as an individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Also, healthcare as a social system has
its responsibilities to empower and support the sustainability of a society,
whether it is family or community or a whole society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an orientation which you must
state, and the end result and goal is to develop and support a sustainable
society, a society where everyone has access to healthcare.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Who gets an infected toe treated
would include anybody and everybody who has an infected toe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who gets a heart transplant is another
schedule of priorities, which you must deal with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For a young person who is 35 and has a
heart defect and has tremendous contributions they can make to their society, it
makes good sense to have a heart transplant.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As your scientists, your medical
sciences and pathologists are determining that there are complete systems of
evidence in the elder years to indicate when a person will come to death, and
the likelihood of investing such radical and expensive procedures in one who
would die or pass away within six months, does not make much sense and would not
be a good investment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As you begin to see medical
procedures as investments in the sustainability of individuals, families and
communities in a whole society, then you begin to see the priority system of who
gets what treatment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not that
it is unfair, it is according to the evidence that each individual as a patient
would evince to the medical professionals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your statement to the ones you write to should outline these larger
scenarios.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many medical
professionals feel helpless in the face of such daunting societal medical
problems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Although they are
capable, they feel like many of their efforts are fruitless and poorly used as a
result of an almost dysfunctional medical service provider system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Having a unified goal and a purpose from
the individual, to the family, to the whole society will assist individuals to
see what you are trying to do and decide to volunteer and assist, or not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Was that helpful?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it was very helpful.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>Questions from the
readers</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I wonder if I can switch gears
for a moment and I’ll ask some of the questions that have come to me from our
audience, over the last week or so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(<B>Monjoronson:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Certainly.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have been
given several questions about the poor, the criminal and so-called ‘lower
types,’ in contraindication to the ‘higher types,’ those who are doing well in
our society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand that
being poor, ignorant and criminal, as well as most mental illnesses can be the
result of environmental factors and are not necessarily the result of the
person’s DNA.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this correct?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is correct.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>Defining
individuals that are not doing well in our society</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you help us better define these
‘lower types’ of individuals?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those
that are not doing well in our society?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please continue to clarify what you are
asking about.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those people who find themselves poor,
ignorant or in criminal situations, also those with various mental illnesses, I
believe are classified by this individual as being the ‘lower types’ in our
society.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We, however, measure individuals far
differently.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is, we measure
them as their capacity to make contributions to the growth of their soul.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The broad pejorative meaning of ‘lower’
is unfortunate and we recommend it not be used [if] they are most capable of
participating effectively, to make contributions to their society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those who are capable and those who are
incapable—of course there are many individuals who live in grand houses and have
expensive cars, who could be categorized as ‘lower’ as well, as far as we
measure individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Having money,
education and employment does not make one ‘superior,’ nor does the lack thereof
make them ‘inferior or less than.’<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We would advise that your concerns, therefore, be the capacity of
capability of individuals to develop the potential that is within them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>If you have a person who is
addicted to methamphetamines or to crack cocaine, then you may see evidence of
permanent mental disability, which makes them less capable of decision-making
that contributes to their own life and to their family and society and
community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The individuals who have
entered these phases of their mental disability oftentimes do not have a Thought
Adjuster.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It has ‘left the
premises,’ so to speak, as in ‘no one is home’ to make a moral and ethical
decision that contributes to their soul.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is important that each individual be discerned for their capability to
contribute to their society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
harmful to individuals who make judgments about large swaths of the population,
which may include many people who are capable of making worthy decisions, except
for the circumstances in which they live.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I could go on at length about this, but I will leave it at that, as I
think I have answered your question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, you have.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>The first five
years of life</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>How important is it to have a
good, loving environment during the first five years of life?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is paramount!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is of the most important of
circumstances to unlock the potential that lies within the person, that can be
expressed in their adolescence, adulthood and later on in their full
adulthood.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><S
style="text-line-through: double"><o:p></o:p></S></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><S
style="text-line-through: double"> <o:p></o:p></S></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT size=3><FONT color=#008080>Is criminal
behavior genetically determined<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG> <o:p></o:p></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is violent or criminal behavior largely
genetically determined?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have reservations about answering that
with a large sweeping answer as that, but the predilections to violence are
almost always genetic.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However,
that can also be amended by the developed genetic side of mental
capability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those of the violet and
indigo races, the blue races, are capable of making superior decisions because
they have a higher level of Adamic gene code in their constitution.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us say that, yes, violence is a
predilection of genetic code, and the predilection for peace and harmony and
social cooperation is also genetic.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>A third factor, however, is that the individuals always make a conscious
decision to act out either way, therefore it is the education, the loving
environment and the culture in which one is raised that is highly influential to
what becomes expressed in the individual’s life.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I believe that somewhere in that answer,
genetic predisposition is not determinant, that there are other factors that are
involved here and the person must choose to act out on their violent nature in
order for that to become evident.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is correct.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you say that a large proportion of
the violence we see today is an outgrowth of the inequalities of our economic
system?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me rephrase that
question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In nations where there is
more equality, is there less violence?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is correct.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>Many aspects of
procreation are cultural in nature</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A question from our reader:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“It appears that the lower elements of
our society have higher birthrates and far outnumber the higher types.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we stop the wrong type of human
from having too many babies, and encourage the right type of human to have
more?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do we have 12 hours to discuss this, or
listen?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand that this is a complicated
situation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me ask a few more
poignant questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do we pay poor
people not to have babies?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will go back to your first question,
and that is the whole emphasis of the Correcting Time, the Teaching Mission and
the Magisterial Mission has its efforts and intentions to bring your societies
into greater awareness of positive options for individual choices for having
children and raising them effectively, to become contributing members of
society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is not one simple
solution, such as you may suggest of paying poor people not to have
children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is a good idea, but
how it is developed and put into practice could actually be
counterproductive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many aspects of
procreation and childrearing are cultural and the effort we are making is to
bend and morph your culture into much more positive ways of behaving and
living.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>First, I may say specifically,
however, that procreation must be seen as a component that either contributes to
or is detrimental to the development of sustainable societies clear down to the
level of community and families.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In
that regard, procreation must not be seen as a topic for religious thought or
participation or influence, but must be seen as an individual choice that
contributes to the welfare of a society that is growing into social
sustainability, or one that actually acts against that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of your religions have been
counterproductive in the development of whole and healthy families and
developing loving relationships between parents and children that provide for
good working models for their own family dynamics later on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is a very pointed and
poignant topic that needs wide expression and discussion in the future in the
larger context of your society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Procreation, birth control and such are not topics for political
manipulation in a society that is moving towards social sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It must not be an emotional issue in the
mind of the individual of a family or society or a nation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It must be seen as an individual choice,
a choice that is made through educated awareness of the options available and
the consequences of right and correct decision-making, and those which are
contrary.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>On topics of
eugenics</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have several more questions that seem
quite specific.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The first is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“Should we castrate our inmates in our
prison system so they cannot create more of their kind?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a social decision for a society
to make.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not offer an opinion
concerning that.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“Should eugenics be taught in our
schools so that children will learn to choose wisely when it comes to
mating?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Only if eugenics is taught in the very
broadest sense so that individuals can understand and make their own decisions
by being more intelligently informed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Eugenics is a word that has many prickly connotations to it, which make
the discussion very difficult.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Eugenics must be taught and engaged from the perspective of how it
contributes to the development of a sustainable society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Society must become peaceful and stable
before it can become sustainable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>In a nation that works toward sustainability, all of these factors become
operative at the same time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Eugenics is one aspect of it, as is an informed and thoughtful program of
criminal corrections.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sex is a basic human need and often
people procreate without meaning to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You say, “procreation will become an honor, a privilege, it will become
an honor-award for individuals who are seen as contributing to the
sustainability of their society.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>At some point in the continuum of time, moving toward the outcome of
procreation becoming an honor and a privilege, will we have to step in and deny
people the ability to procreate?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B> <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All these topics that are involved in
this question could be enveloped in the concept of social eugenics.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When this is developed, you must do so
so that it has integrity, that it is congruous, that the intention is well
stated and moves all of society towards social sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, to answer your questions — your
societies and communities will choose who will and who will not have
children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an eventuality;
it is a necessity; it is something that will become appreciated, though others
will be very remorseful and bitter about those choices.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In time, the choice to have children or
not to have children will not be made by individuals, but by society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is very ominous, it sounds very
terrible to you today, but in the end, it will become a necessity because
resources will be so limited.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
resources for raising children and for medical services are resources that will
have to be assigned by their contribution to a sustainable community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Resources that are limited would be seen
as being squandered if they were used for a person who will die in a week, or an
infant who has severe congenital defects.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You see, it is not a simple
question or situation, but it is one that has tremendous integrity when you see
it as a whole.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008080 size=3>More questions on
the borderland and grid</FONT></U></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A friend asks, “What does our soul do
during its existence, or our incarnation in the flesh?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not a question we will attempt
to engage at this point.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>[Note:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The reader is referred to Paper 111 in
<I>The Urantia Book</I>.]</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There still seems to be a great deal of
confusion about those living in the borderland.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of our audience members have asked
similar questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I believe some
of these questions arise from previous transcripts given in November of 2009, by
midwayer Chief Bzutu—ABC 22.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He
called those living in the borderland “Packets of unassembled information, which
have no personality, no soul.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Saying one should not be interested in… “fooling with these packets of
unresolved anger, pure denial and rampant emotion.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do borderland souls with consciousness
have personality?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, they do not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personality is a gift from God, and that
leaves when the Thought Adjuster leaves.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I see.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That answer solves one of my questions
left over from <I>The Urantia Book</I>.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I believe there is some confusion
going on here, with the people in our audience.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“What is the difference between those
stuck in the grid and those stuck in the borderland?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the next question he asks me, “Which
area holds the “packets of information,” and which one holds the lost
souls?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are individuals—you call them
individuals—who are stuck in the borderland, and this is an energetic state of
existence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It lies between your
four dimensions of this material universe and the other dimensions of the
morontial universe, as you might say.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They can be called “packets of energy, of information,” and that is what
they are.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is simply just a
different way of seeing them or perceiving them as “packets,” or “empty beings,”
with nothing left but the consciousness of those ideas and that energy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As far as the grid is concerned,
the grid—as we have said before—is the race consciousness, the planetary
consciousness, cosmic consciousness, although those three have different
meanings or connotations to them, they have a similarity.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the minded energy of the planet
that changes over time, as the consciousness of its population changes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, there are ‘bands’ of
consciousness—and I call them ‘bands’ but<SPAN style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>I do
not see them as literal bands of consciousness for your whole earth, for
nations, for societies or sub groups, for communities, for clans—some people
call this an ethos of a clan or family or community—the same type of
meaning.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As far as ‘existent’ beings
caught in this consciousness, there are none.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You could, however, say that even some
of the living are caught in this consciousness, because they are completely
living the consciousness of that group of people.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You could call them ‘cultural groupies;’
you could call them ‘individuals who go along with every fad and fancy,’ who try
to be the ultimate, the acme model of that consciousness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You see them in your societies by the
uniforms they wear, the equipment they use, by the language they use and how
they are ‘stuck’ there.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are
beginning to see men in their 40’s who are still ‘skaters,’ who carry their
skateboards and the same uniform of skaters, even though they are of middle
age.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You could call these
individuals ‘stuck’ in the consciousness of skaters, could you not?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So there are no existent beings caught
in the grid, as separate and apart from individuals who have separate
identity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Those who are in the borderland
have identity, which is made from the packet of data information that they
gathered during their lifetime.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As
far as having anything to do with them, we suggest you do not, as they do not
contribute to your life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They
cannot contribute to your wisdom or positively to the decisions you make.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are totally and completely
unprepared—most of you—to differentiate these individuals from those who are
visitors from the morontial realm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There is a certain percentage of your population who are able to discern
the differences, but most have not been trained in the powers of discernment,
concerning these beings.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The last question I have is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“How can we, on this side, help those in
the borderland move on?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This has been discussed in detail in
previous sessions.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish to thank you, Monjoronson, for
making this information available to us, the co-creative design team and the
core values of sustainability through the Magisterial Mission.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Without it I have little doubt that our
world would be pitched into another dark age.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have no more questions for you today,
sir.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I sincerely appreciate your
availability to answer questions for us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are most welcome.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I do not wish to pursue topics or
further discussion about those in the borderland and/or the grid in future
sessions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That has been thoroughly
discussed and in greater detail than we had planned, now let us move on from
those topics.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those individuals who
are curious about those topics can read them in prior sessions.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are there any topics that you’d like to
see us discuss?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN style="COLOR: teal">We
must continue to discuss topics on social
sustainability<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MONJORONSON:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We must continue to discuss topics of
social sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The topic of
eugenics is one that crosses all aspects of your social lives in the future,
particularly of your children and grandchildren.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those decisions must be made from the
discussions that we have now, and the plans that are designed and devised in
co-creative design teams, concerning this topic.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is so broad ranging as to encompass
most areas of social institutions of human society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Eugenics is a prime topic or prime issue
of social sustainability because it gets to the heart of social learning
processes, genetics, social construction, maintenance and sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All the work that you do concerning
eugenics must be thought of in terms of as contributing to social
sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Do not let prior indoctrination,
religious orientation, or your own misguided morality and ethics define how
eugenics comes into existence in a sustainable society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This will be more easily discussed
intelligently in the future as our work progresses to produce a holistic
morality that supports social sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have spoken of this before, I have
alluded to it, and it is in the process of being designed and produced.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I prefer not to discuss this in detail,
even though I have alluded to it, just to alert you that it is coming.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will be too shocking to some of you,
to make those decisions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Eugenics
is a social topic, which will be at the heart of the discussion within that
text.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
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