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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><FONT size=5>New Era
Conversations #13 – Social Evolution; The Three Economies; Core Values in DNA –
Dec. 20, 2013<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Machiventa Melchizedek</B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Take time to reflect over this past
year<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Anticipation of the New Era<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Our social evolutionary process is stuck, needing celestial
help<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Money as a motivating force<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">The missions of our spiritual
community<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Engaging more people to assist in social
change<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Money is a curse… and a tool<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Improving societies while increasing soul growth of
individuals<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Some options for social evolution have high risk
factors<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">The focus of humanitarian groups is not on social
evolution<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Creating solutions rather than fixing
problems<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Presenting proposals to spirit<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Team bonding leads to one
consciousness<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Seeking clarity on the three
economies<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">How the three core values balance the three
economies<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">One small person in one small community making a
difference<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">The local social economy<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">The local political and economic
economies<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">The metaphor of the ants<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">How the three core values are coded in our
DNA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Viewing your social, political and economic economies in a
new light<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Aspire to become greater “like your Father in
heaven”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Celestial advice to brother on vignettes
project<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: green">Our responsibilities and opportunities as partners with
spirit</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Moderators:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Susan Bryner and Michael McCray</P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>December 20, 2013</FONT></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Prayer:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>Heavenly Father, Michael, Nebadonia
and all of the others who gather near to us this morning.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We come to ask questions of you and to
use your answers for our education and to further your plans for our world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We thank you for your help during this
Correcting Time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amen.</I></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>Take
time to reflect over this past year<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek, your Planetary Manager and your Planetary Prince.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Group greetings.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We welcome you to the beginning of a new
year very soon.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For you this is an
occasion for looking back over the last year; and, we would ask that as you look
backward over this last year that you reflect upon those significant eras, of
those significant happenings and experiences that you have had this last year
and reflect on them as concerns your personal life, your future and your
participation as a contributing member of this planet, and of this planet’s
civilization.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>For many of you, you celebrate
the cultural celebration of Jesus’ birth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is a signatory marker in the history of humankind and for the
consciousness of everyone, and of individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It really matters not whether
Jesus/Christ Michael was born in December or August; the fact of his arrival is
the most auspicious occasion that has occurred on this planet since the Life
Carriers brought life to this planet.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Anticipation of the New Era<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Many of you are in anticipation
of the initiation of fulfilling the New Era.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have made the announcement of the New
Era to you; now you are looking for evidence of it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We, too, are looking forward to
initiating this era with you, co-creatively developing programs that assist your
social organizations and individuals to learn to increase their social maturity
and as individuals working in groups and between groups.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that the social maturity
of individuals increases—and actually demands an improvement in maturity of
their social agencies, their social institutions, social processes and
fundamental social institutions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>However, there is a lagging both of individual social maturity across the
realm and of your social institutions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>One of the purposes of the Correcting Time through the Magisterial
Mission is to bring about an increase of maturity in your social institutions
and processes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This looks like an
evolution:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>An evolution is a
process of maturation, progressive maturation that brings about more positive
results.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H4 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008000>Our social evolutionary
process is stuck, needing celestial help</FONT></U></H4>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The historic evolutionary process
of social change has been skewed, has been slow, and has in fact been in some
cases retarded, going backwards in some situations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your world now is stuck almost in a
stalemate between those forces that bring about social evolution through social
institutions and those forces that benefit greatly from social chaos.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the point of incursion,
intrusion of intervention by the spiritual elements of the planet to bring order
and progress and focus to a mission, to an outcome that is desired by
you—individually and by your social groups, and by us.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the place in which we now
present ourselves and are at this moment, waiting for the evolution of events to
take place.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Many of you have a mistaken
perspective of our work and how we operate.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do operate in ways that are divine in
some cases, but when it involves the temporal realm of working with mortals,
then we are stuck to the same 24-hour schedule as you are.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We can only work according to the
temporal realm in the material world because that is where you live, this is
where you operate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are not
morontially evolved enough to understand and skip five spaces ahead without
having to go through the experiential process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus we are stuck with the experiential
living out of this coming era as you are.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would seem that you are restricted by
the same things that restrict us right now.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We live in a present worldview where
money is needed in order to bring things into fruition.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We can dream as much we want to in order
to make the plans but to have those actual plans come into being, money is
needed in the worldview that we presently have.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>Money
as a motivating force<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You call this “money,” but we call it a
“motivation of force.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have
striven to approach you, the followers of <I>The Urantia Book</I>, Teaching
Mission and Magisterial Mission, through the motivating force of persuasion of
interest, of curiosity, and we find that these have not worked, that
you—generally—you are not motivated to go forward to engage your
communities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We see very few
exceptions to this; it is less than one percent of your population that has
risen to the surface to begin leading their communities forward.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is unfortunate; usually it is that
there is one percent of the population who are leaders, but when we find less
than one percent then something is flagging, something is not occurring as it
should, and therefore, other resources must be brought forward.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>The
missions of our spiritual community<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For clarity, Machiventa, are you saying
that at this point, there are less than one percent that are motivated to engage
their communities?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, within our spiritual community,
meaning <I>The Urantia Book</I>, the Teaching Mission and Magisterial
Mission.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>The Urantia Book</I>
movement is focused on the book and its dissemination and the enlightenment of
its truths.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is absolutely
nothing wrong with this; yet, it is not a social action movement.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not motivated to change the lives,
minds and opinions, values of individuals to take action in their social
community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The Teaching Mission as
well, was not intended to bring about social action, but to bring about the
meeting of like minds who are interested in discussions with unseen spiritual
beings of light, to grow in their spirituality and their moral and ethical
judgments and conditions of their lives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The Magisterial Mission, however,
is quite different; it is a program oriented toward social action, and as you
know and can see from the audience, that our audience is quite small, and that
within this audience, less than one percent of our audience has come forward to
enact or bring about or initiate a social action movement in their community,
either in the form of organizing a design team, or a leadership team, using the
principles that we have shared with you, even without an agenda for some project
in a community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Usually, these do
become organized due to some foreseen or perceived need by some initiator or
organizer of a team structure, and it is unfortunate that less than one percent
of our following has done this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We are very grateful for the
individuals who have come forward, as they are earnest in their lives and their
efforts to bring about some positive social action, using the three core values
and the team system.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are
watching those situations intently, as we are learning a tremendous amount from
this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One thing that many of our
listeners and readers have forgotten is that you, working in social action are
also working in personal spiritual growth and development.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The lessons of an individual’s life are
not apart or separate from the lessons and process of building a team and
working on a project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The growth of
all members is involved, and the facilitator and organizer of this must keep
this in mind as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have
discovered that bonding has a highly important ingredient to the outcome of the
team, and this is exactly the case, where there becomes an attunement between
individuals of the future working team, to find their commonalities and this
oneness, and in this they get to explore their own personal growth while
participating in the bonding of a larger group of people who want to work on a
project.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Engaging more people to assist in social
change<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG> <o:p></o:p></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In regard to this, that there are less
than one percent of the small readership taking action with a social
program.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know it is up to us to
make the choices to get involved, but are there some changes in your plans, or
additional plans being laid to engage more people? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or how may we assist in this?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must realize that we have—not an
agenda—but a hierarchy of options to use in engaging mortals in the work that
must be done to raise the consciousness of your world and, in fact, apply that
raised consciousness to the evolution of social functions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That begins first by disseminating the
program as we have done with the Magisterial Mission.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have spoken about social
sustainability, and we have also spoken about cataclysms.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is a “push” and one is a “pull,” and
then we use persuasion and further teaching and instruction as to how to do
this, and see what results from that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And so, as we work down from the higher-minded factors of motivation,
down to the baser more material factors of motivation, such as position, power,
control and authority—and money—then you see that we are soon to expire all our
options; and so, it is at this point where it is necessary for the factor of
finances to come forward to solicit the engagement of individuals who are not
otherwise motivated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is most unfortunate in many
ways, because it appeals to the baser minded individuals who can only perceive
functioning and improvements through the use of materiality and money.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are many people, who are
higher-minded, but they are socially withdrawn, or even socially reclusive, and
who rarely engage the social action of their community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is nothing wrong with this, as
many of these people are of higher-mindedness and approach engagement with the
lower level of morontial mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>What we seek are higher-minded
people who are willing to engage their social environment, without the use of
money.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, that is a factor
that must be brought forward eventually.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>How that happens is between us here; it is not something that we would
wish to share with you or our audience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>How this comes about is a development, which should just “suddenly
appear,” happen and become something greater.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It does not please us; we do not feel
comfortable in using money as an enticement for social growth and
development.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>Money
is a curse… and a tool<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The love of money is, of course,
as you know, is a curse; but money as a tool is a wonderful element that is
highly fluid and can be applied as easily in the United States as it can be in
Greece or in Korea, and so, it is a wonderful element to use.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, because of the material
attachment of mortals to money and what it can bring to their material life, it
is often a definite curse to the higher-minded influences that are about you and
within you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So you see, we in the
spiritual realm here, are caught upon a crux of sorts, that we have lost many of
our options of appeal to you, to take action of your own initiative, using your
own resources, and yet, here we are of necessity having to use the lower levels
of motivation, i.e. money of position, power, authority and fame, to motivate
individuals to initiate a team or a project in their local community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This last option can lead to so many
difficulties within an individual, and within a group of individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It presents the greatest growth
potential; but the greatest growth potential also presents the greatest
difficulties and conflicts within individuals and within groups of
individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the least
favorable option that we have, but one, which it appears, is necessary to
exercise.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Do you understand this so
far?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am following it somewhat.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are you, Michael?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Michael:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Right on top of the questions I had to
ask you, Machiventa; basically, I have been thinking about this for several days
now.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Susan, You had something you wanted to
finish?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was just trying to get clarity on
this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At first I thought what you
were saying about finances, was that the lack of financial security was going to
motivate people, and then I realized you were talking about actually making
money available for projects that would draw people to them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then I sort of recoiled inside, because
I’ve watched how that doesn’t work well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Yes, growth within conflict is a favorable condition.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But this worries me, and I’m just a
small person, who doesn’t have much influence.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In my little community, I see the coming
together of people with the motivation to initiate change and make things
better, is very strong and very powerful.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I am a little distressed by this as well.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Improving societies while increasing soul growth of
individuals<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is exactly the response we were
hoping to hear from you, that there is optimism in what you are doing in your
community, and seeing the difficulty of using money as a motivating force.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To reiterate and clarify, money is often
a confusing factor for those who are not clear-minded, or have a clear view of
the goal, as the end of a much-developed process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the process of teamwork that we
are most interested in.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The outcome
will eventually occur in time, nonetheless, and so, it is the hope of Christ
Michael to use the conscious co-creative processes to help improve the
functioning of your societies and your civilization, while at the same time,
increasing the tremendous soul growth of individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The unfortunate part of any mention of
money is that it almost immediately over awes individuals and they completely
lose focus of the process.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now, Michael, would you re-engage
your comments, please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Basically, my comment was that the ones
that I have been engaged in thinking about what you are telling us now for the
last few days—the fact that it would appear that the Triumvirate must lower
itself to deal with the realities of this world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hate to put it that way, and I am sure
that you hate to see it put that way, but it would appear that that is the
reality that we are dealing with.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>Some
options for social evolution have high risk
factors<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not that the Triumvirate “hates,”
or has to “lower itself” to the use of material means to do so, it is simply an
option that has high risk factors involved.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not see the use of materiality as
a condescending agreement with you or a<SPAN style="COLOR: red">
</SPAN>compromise.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difficulty
with using the more material basis for social evolution is fraught with high
risk and great opportunity for mismanagement and for the worst inner thoughts
and motivations—greed, acquisitiveness for power, control and authority, and
even fame—are some of the negative products of the use of material means to
improve societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would require
the greatest cooperation between those agents that we call upon to use this
means to motivate people to come forward.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Money may become an enticement to
draw people to the work that we are doing, but it is our hope that once this
“priming the pump effort” is completed, that there would be individuals who
would be sufficiently motivated by the bonding of teams, the personal
achievement, the teamwork, the esprit and the wonderful projects that will be
completed, to participate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a
high risk factor to use material means to achieve spiritual ends.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have used this before, but with less
exact participation between ourselves and mortals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When I say, “less exact,” I am saying,
“less conscious co-creative, ongoing dialog between mortals and the spiritual
realm in the management of those resources.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many individuals have been used and
called forward in times past, and awarded—not necessarily rewarded—but awarded
with great power, authority and material means to improve their societies, but
which provided almost no positive ends to our goals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, we are reticent to engage this
high-risk adventure, which appears to be necessary.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>The
focus of humanitarian groups is not on social
evolution<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are humanitarian organizations
that exist, need money to drive the types of things they do and to be able to
sustain the people that work for them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And they’ve done good work.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I’m thinking that you are implying that at the top of these organizations
there is still that risk of greed and struggle for power that corrupts?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is existent, though we are aware of
many hundreds, if not thousands, of benevolent organizations and foundations
around the world that have tremendous, powerful, positive, honest and authentic
and genuine values in place.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>However, what we are seeking here with you is an alignment of intention,
a purposeful engagement of bringing about a much more rapid evolution of your
social structures, rather than simply improving the conditions of existing
social structures.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you see the
difference?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Oh yes, I do!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I actually do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I envisioned an analogy this last couple
of weeks that helped me understand the difference between trying to prevent and
work at the core level, at the level of cause, as opposed to trying to intervene
at a place of current pain or need to heal that which already exists.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This alignment of intention kind of
works at the root cause or the root of an issue.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this what you are saying?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Creating solutions rather than fixing
problems<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a phrase, it is our attempt to
“create solutions rather than fixing problems.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your benevolent foundations are trying
to fix problems, rather than create solutions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many organizations are involved with
poverty, and to teach people how to feed themselves.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, almost none of them are engaged
in proactive contraceptive work on the part of those societies, and so they are
not taking action across the board, but simply trying to alleviate poverty
without addressing the causes of it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The causes of poverty are two fold:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There are too many people for the resources at hand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The benevolence of advanced societies to
care for those countries and those hundreds and thousands and millions of people
in need, will eventually come to an end due to the difficulties that are will be
forthcoming in the future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so,
if they do not present the causes as 1) lack of food, and 2) too many people,
then their work will be incomplete and always there will be a need for relief of
poverty.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Presenting proposals to spirit<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In furthering this discussion of teams
aligning themselves with you and setting intentions for other outcomes, you had
spoken in a previous discussion about the simplicity of making a proposal to
spirit and spirit would advise whether this is a good plan or has got
flaws.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have a simple question
about this:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do we just write it out
and pray, or is it possible to formally present a proposal that we have in one
of these discussions, a proposal for….<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ll use for an example, I have
ideas for a community organization that might bridge some of the communication
lacks that we have in our community and focus on the currency of
relationships.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But I’m not sure if
it’s a good plan or not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is that
something that we should just do with you in private, or can we formally present
a proposal in one of these discussions?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, yes and yes!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me explain:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is, you should reflect upon your
situation in your community and propose a project—and when we say, “propose
that,” we suggest that you write it out, and that you look it over, and that you
present it in contemplative discussion with us—you may call this prayer; we
would call that contemplative conscious discussion—and present it to us for our
examination.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then we ask that you
wait at least a day, and then go into meditation with the intention of receiving
an answer or answers, or discussion, concerning that proposal.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Adjust your written proposal, as
necessary, and then present that proposal to your team.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is truly the co-creative
conscious process of engaging spiritually oriented intentions by mortals with
our consideration and the participation of those who may not be spiritually
conscious.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, you become our
agent.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We work behind the scenes to
help your group understand what you want to do, and then as you move forward,
you will find that sometimes there is no progress and you come to the conclusion
in reflection, that “this is not the way.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And so, you turn a few degrees and try another attempt and see how that
proceeds.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will know that we are
there with you as the progress works forward consistently.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There will be those who have other
opinions or options in mind with these projects.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>Team
bonding leads to one consciousness<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now you see why bonding is so
necessary.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you come to bonding
in your team and your group, you are coming to one consciousness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are coming into synchronistic,
harmonic vibration of minds, and this is what the team bonding does, that there
is a like-mindedness, so that when you are thinking about this proposal and you
ask us about it and you adjust it, and then you present it to your group, many
of the group will not be surprised, but say, “Oh, this is very timely!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wonderful.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us begin to work on this,” and so
you proceed that way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the
dance of co-creative engagement between you, who are in contact with the
spiritual realm, and you, who also are in contact with your mortal players as
well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a wonderful
opportunity for personal spiritual growth, and for immense service to your
fellow teammates. </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Seeking clarity on the three economies<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=ListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">I am
interested in furthering my understanding of the closing statement you made in
the last NEC session regarding the 3 economies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=ListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">So, to
the concept of the 3 Core Values, you have now added the concept of the 3
Economies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In order to wrap my mind
around the bigger concepts, I need to bring ideas down to my community level to
get clarity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have envisioned a
large tree with a sturdy trunk and deep root system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The branches of this tree create a
canopy under which the activity of community life flows. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=ListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">I’m
using the tree to try to see the relationship between the core values, the
economies and social sustainability. The roots are the core values, and the tree
is only as strong as these values are deep or deeply enculturated.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are 3 huge branches on this tree
that support multiple smaller branches with beautiful leaves.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These 3 branches represent the 3
economies:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Social, Financial &
Political.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The movement of life
giving air among the branches is created by the circulation of the currencies of
these economies:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>relationships
between individuals and individuals and social groups, the flow of money in the
community and the participation and public influence the individuals in the
community choose to wield.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=ListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">How am I
doing so far?</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your metaphor, your analogy, is limited
by the focus of it, meaning the tree.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We would ask you to switch to a different living entity or being.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, let me engage this with you,
continuing your metaphor, the analogy you are using—the tree.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have the roots and you have the
ground correct, and that works, but the three economies are not branches of
it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are not seeing that within
the tree, the tree is a living organism, and the economies are living
circulatory enterprises of any community, even a family, that an economy of
money and goods and services is necessary to keep the flow of nutrients of that
type working.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The other circulatory
system involves the social circulation process, whereas if everybody lived in
isolation in your community, you would have no community!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You would have no social structure; you
would have no associations, you would have no teams.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, the economy of societies is the
grouping, the coming together of individuals, that there is a flow of ideas, a
flow of energies, an agreement on commonalities and then efforts to work on
these commonalities for the improvement of individuals and your community.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>There is further, the other
circulatory system within the tree, and that is the political economy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The strength of the tree provides its
strength so that the circulation can occur of the nutrients from the earth, up
through the cambium under the bark, into the stems and leaves, and
photosynthesis occurs and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There is an agreement of parts:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are the roots, we gather nutrients from the soil and we are strong and
hold the tree in place; the trunk is a political part of this organism too, and
it says, “I am strong and I will hold you up into the light.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the stems and leaves say, “We are
here to exchange the air, carbon dioxide<SPAN style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>and
water to make the nutrients that nurture the maintenance and growth of the
tree.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, these are the
political parts; each has a function that works in balance.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If there was some odd reason, such as a
building built next to the tree and there was not enough sunlight, the tree
would wither and die.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, these
three systems, these three economies—when I use the word “economies,” think of
the word “system,” think of “circulation,” think of movement, of energy, the
commonalities that are necessary to support a society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Think of the plant’s photosynthesis
process – it nurtures a larger environment by giving off oxygen.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>How
the three core values balance the three
economies<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The three core values are
different; the three core values in a society allow for these economies to come
into fruition and into balance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If
you have a society that does not use the three core values in its economies,
then you will see greed, you will see avarice, you will see empire building, you
will see great wealth and you will see great poverty.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This should lead you to the conclusion
that in your society and western societies, the three core values are not in
balance within individuals who make decisions that could support a sustainable
economy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The three core values are
necessary for decision-making in individuals that helps keep an economy in
balance. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you can see, your
western economy is out of balance, and obviously, it is going to collapse.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will not change itself, simply
because the decisions of those individuals who are in power, control and
authority want to maintain a status quo that benefits them above and over other
people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So they are not making
decisions based on the three core values, and thus, the financial economy is out
of balance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You can apply this same sort of
analysis to your political economy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Those in power want to stay in power, and so they build their empires
stronger and stronger, taking away the power from individuals and smaller groups
of people for their own advantage, and this too, will collapse.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a society where you have bigotry and
prejudice among people, based on religions or politics or ethnicity, or simply
the color of their skin, this will also wither your social structures and you
will have social collapse.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When we paint this picture this
way, you see that your world is wildly out of balance, and that it will not come
into balance, or into stability, which is the foundation of sustainability,
until there is a collapse.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
are neither the egos, nor the altruism of great minds and great people to bring
about positive change.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They may
exist, but there is tremendous resistance to them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have seen this with Mr. Mandela, who
has recently passed, and who we welcome to our realm, that he made tremendous
pronouncements.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He was astoundingly
accepted all over the world for his pronouncements, but when it comes to
decision-making by individuals, not much has changed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is of recognition of Mr. Mandela that
the truths that he spoke are universal, and that everyone agrees on them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But remarkably, the decisions of
individuals are almost not changed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>He has created a positive influence, one more brick in the foundation of
a sustainable stable society, but which has not yet been able to raise itself
into the edifice of great spires that reach into the skies of spiritual and
social maturity.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So, your metaphor of the tree is
a stretch, but we can use it positively to help you understand this.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now, have I been successful, or have I
failed?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have been successful in making me
really struggle in a positive way to assimilate this, so thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m getting closer.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"
class=MsoBodyTextIndent>[<B>Daniel:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Susan, this is Daniel.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He is
just relishing this discussion with you, because this is the boots on the
ground; this is the tire to the road, where co-creative spirituality and
co-creative social evolution occurs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It occurs in individuals like you, who can grasp these concepts and apply
them in your community—apply them first in your mind, and then in your
community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What they are asking us
to do is no small leap!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s
huge!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you are engaging is at
the forefront of our civilization.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, this is leading to more
questions.]</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>One
small person in one small community making a
difference<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’d like to follow up on what you were
just sharing with us; you were taking these concepts to a very broad and global
level, and relating them to the work of Nelson Mandela.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What I understood was that his words
were very much in alignment, with these concepts, but that there was very little
action by others making decisions based on the things he said.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So it is just not really happening, this
is not part of any change that’s needed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When I look at this as one
individual person, I think I’m not a Nelson Mandela, so how can I be
effective?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I just want affirmation
that doing it at a small level within small communities is going to be useful to
you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or is there a need for
something larger that goes viral?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
know there have been talks about the ability of new concepts and ideas going
viral with the types of communication systems we have now, but… I don’t know;
maybe I’m starting to get as disillusioned as you are, that this is just going
to take so much more than a handful of people at their community level grasping
this.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My dear daughter, we will be
unsuccessful if we cannot engage you to work at your local level, because all of
the work that we are engaging is at the local level.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are enough global leaders who are
visible in the world, who are striving to do what they do, but they are speaking
from a position of high political, economic and social perspective, rather than
from the bottom level where you are, speaking among your friends at that
level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All social action begins at
the local level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>The
local social economy<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The management of societies and
politics and economics exists at the upper levels, but the initiation of
positive growth can only begin at the lower levels.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When we speak to you about the social
economy, we are speaking to you about the social economy of your community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are a spark in that local, social
economy; you have brought people together to bring their minds and their
thoughts and their consciousness into oneness and harmony, to work positively to
create solutions where you are.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is the heart of a social economy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You go to church and you meet people
there and you participate in groups in that setting.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You work in your business community,
participating in business groups, and so you have an influence there.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you had young children, you would be
part of a parent/teacher organization and you would participate there.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, within all these groups, whether
they are political groups or economic groups or social groups, there is the
social economy going on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Were you
working with Jane, who is part of another group, and Dorothy, who is part of
another group, and some of you are part of the same group, and so you share
ideas with each other and this is the social economy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H4 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008000>The local political and
economic economies</FONT></U></H4>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The political economy is that
which is part of the governing processes within these organizations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have what you call government, which
has to do with civic activities of maintenance of your city, your county and
your state.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yet, within your
organizations, you have a political economy; you have presidents, vice
presidents, secretaries, treasurers, committee chairman, and so on, and so there
is the political economy that way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>All this exists at the local level, whether you are a Cub Scout Den
Mother, with cubs in your den, you have a social economy there, you have a
political economy, and you have an economic economy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These influences are all around you; the
economies are all around you; you are swimming in a soup of these three
economies all the time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
part of your culture, part of your thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not ask you to be a Nelson
Mandela, or any famous individual; we are simply asking you to take
responsibility in your community to initiate action with us, to engage these
three economies, and validate your work through the three core values of social
sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will know you
are in agreement with us and we are in agreement with you when you apply these
three core values to the work that you are doing and if the values validate what
you are doing, then you are on track.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Do not think of greatness, dear
one; think of where you are in your humble circumstances of your small
community, doing great things to initiate changes that are positive, that bring
about positive social evolution in your community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a very slow process; it is
egregiously slow sometimes in your minds that you expect great results
quickly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your technological and
empowered material and community and government and culture have given you the
thought that social process can operate in the same way, and it absolutely does
not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is very slow; it is very
tedious, but it is very conscious and very intentional, and there are known ways
to validate your progress.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please
accept this as your challenge in your community at the local level.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Have I explained this sufficiently?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am willing to engage many further
questions that you may present.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have; you affirmed the work that I’m
doing, and that many other people and readers are doing in their community is
important.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sometimes, when these
discussions utilize the larger issues of the world to illustrate, I start to
think, “Oh my gosh!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is work
that takes my heart and my soul and all my energy, and yet it is so small!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Will it ever bring about the larger
change?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You affirmed that all we can
really affect is the small change within our realm of influence, and so I am
happy to be working here, in this small place with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You did answer that; thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>The
metaphor of the ants<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG> <o:p></o:p></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wonderful!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You remind us of the ants in the forest
who toiled season after season, that with each winter comes the die-off of many
ants, so that the hive, the anthill survives, and what began one year as a small
mound of sticks and leaves in the forest, after ten or fifteen years becomes a
great mound of organization, with many thousands of tunnels and hundreds of
thousands of ants involved.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Very
few of the ants ever see what a great contribution they will have made to the
eventual fulfillment of this larger anthill.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And you are in the same level; the thing
that ants do not have that you do have, is that they do not have an observation
of the future; they live completely in the now, doing what is necessary and what
they are called upon to do in the now, and by completing what they are in the
now, the future is building upon all those small moments by thousands of
individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, too, do great
sustainable societies and civilizations come into existence the very same
way:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One person, one small
community at a time, working on their own small projects using their
<I>will</I>, diligence and consciousness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We have said this before that you may not know how many hundreds or even
thousands of lives you will touch and encourage by your words and actions that
you are taking in your community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This will give others heart and confidence and willingness—literally
<I>will</I>—to engage those issues with their friends and community
members.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, thank you,
thank you!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, from this one little
ant!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I appreciate it very much.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT size=3>How
the three core values are coded in our DNA<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Machiventa, in previous
discussions, you indicated that the three core values are actually written in
our DNA, and this made me curious.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Is this similar to the drive to survive that’s written in our DNA?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wondered if you would speak to how
this becomes expressed in individual lives, like the drive to survive is
obviously expressed when we’re in danger.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The three core values, if they are written in our DNA, what makes them be
expressed?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is that question
clear?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One moment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We need to confer with our Life
Carriers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Short pause.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you had a circumstance in which you
could not breathe, you would be very conscious of that and you would engage the
process of striving to expand your lungs, or to exhale.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Correct?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But most of the time, 99.9% of the time
during every day of every year, you never think about the survival factor of
your breathing as necessary until you are prevented from breathing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The need/necessity/drive to survive is
part of your core DNA when it is necessary for you to consciously engage your
survival, you will to do so, and you <I>will</I> to with great power and do what
is necessary to breathe, to drink water, to seek shelter from the elements, to
stay warm and to be in association with others who can assist you to survive and
you can assist them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Using the phrase “written in your
DNA” is not accurate; it is “coded” in your DNA, much as code is written into
web site codes and software codes in your computers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is existent and it is there.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Once you are surviving, let us say you
were a primitive living in a cave and you have a coat of fur and you have some
moss sandals on your feet, trying to stay warm, but you have no fire and you
have no means to stay warm that way, and so you must hustle about and stay
physically active to stay warm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Now, you realize that your neighbors have fire and your clan does not,
and so you would seek to have your neighbors share their fire so that you have
fire, and this is improving the quality of your life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This necessity to improve the quality of
your life is part of the drive for an extension of your survival.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is an improvement of your life for
you to assist yourself in surviving more easily—you call this an improvement in
the quality of your life—and so, in order to do that, you would grow.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You realize that you watch your
neighbors as their fire goes out, and the next morning, one of the people gets
up and uses a flint against a rock and with some tinder, and starts a fire.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore, you learn how to make fire,
and you take this learned experience back to your own clan and you begin
striving to make fire the same way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So, learning is a growth process that assists you to survive more
easily.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These three core values are
extensions of survival; eventually, they become so refined that survival becomes
forgotten.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your equality comes into
view too, as you see that your neighbors have fire and they stay warm more
easily, and they can also cook the meat from their hunt, which helps to process
the meat for easier digestion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You want to have an equal level
of comfort of life as your neighbors, and so you learn to make fire, you stay
warm, you cook your meat and you digest it more easily, and of course, then you
have more caloric value left to help you live warmly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a very primitive example, but it
is primary to your species.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can
embellish this and develop this to your contemporary living conditions in your
society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Equality is one that many
of you miss and have misinterpreted and misapplied.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are still striving to be accepted
equally as an individual, because of your color, your ethnicity, your cultures,
your beliefs, and your religious beliefs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your societies are so primitive, yet you do not accept others as equal
[in] value as yourself as a physical being, as a participant in your
society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is, for most of your
societies, to accept that another individual is valuable as an asset who can
contribute to the welfare and the good of all society—not just me, not just my
family or my community, but everyone.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So the social evolution that we are speaking about for your society is
immense!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: green"><U><FONT
size=3>Viewing your social, political and economic economies in a new
light<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When you begin to view your
economies, your social economy, political economy, economic economy in this
light of others being as an equally valuable asset, let alone of equal value
physically as another individual, you see how deeply primitive your world
is.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is because of the
primitiveness of your three economies that we have come here in the Correcting
Time to infuse these new values into your societies, your economies and your
politics, or you will surely kill yourselves off with all these highly developed
weapons that you have, before you achieve this, if you continue on without
having this spiritual infusion of the Correcting Time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is written into your DNA; it is
an aspect of your survival; it is the striving to become more.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And you see that in the quality of life,
you see that in the growth factor, and you see that in equality, that to grow,
to evolve, you must do so as an individual, and then, in order to do so as an
individual to continue on, you need the assistance of other social assets as
yourself to totally grow into the potential that you brought into the
world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H4 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#008000>Aspire to become greater
“like your Father in heaven”</FONT></U></H4>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The Life Carriers, using designs
that they have in their laboratories on this experimental planet, have taken the
options to almost the limit for this type of species, this type of bilateral,
intellectual, conscious, sentient being.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is no small project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Again, we are—not at wits end—but we are surely taking our program to the
utmost to assist your world, using the elements that you understand to assist
you to grow into who you are as <I>individuals</I>, and then as societies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, dear one, the question you ask
about your community is so important because this is where you can address
working with other individuals to help them aspire, to become curious, and to
serve and take on that great ennobling character that is within them, as well in
their DNA, and that is to become greater and to become “like their Father in
heaven, their Creator, perfect in every way.”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter><B>Susan:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wow,
thank you for that!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You provided a
missing link.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When we seek to
communicate and engage others, on any level, whether it be an individual level,
or a community level, we need to engage that which motivates them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have struggled to find that common
ground, that common motivating force that would engage them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This has been my missing link!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter>I’m going to
need to think on this a while, but thank you so much for taking the time with
the primitive analogy that you used.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You are most welcome.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter><B>Susan:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
have one further question that is very different from this one, so I will yield
to others in case they have a follow up question on this part of the
discussion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(<B>Machiventa:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Certainly.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t have a question at this
time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I thought it was very
interesting, Machiventa, how you were able to tell us how this coding goes
on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I thought the imagery that you
used to be very beneficial in explaining to me how this actually works.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxie, do you have any further
questions?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No,
Machiventa has been very thorough and clear for me.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Why don’t you ask your last question,
Susan?</P>
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</SPAN>I would like to clarify with you that I have made clear the association
of the three core values, and how they work in individuals to improve the
sustainability of these three economies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Is that association clear to you?</P>
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class=MsoFooter><B>Susan:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
feel like this is an exam question—hold on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m going to go back and digest this,
but I think I had a tenuous grasp on it, yes.</P>
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</SPAN>Let it percolate in your minds then and you can reflect on this and you
are most welcome to bring further questions about this to our next session.</P>
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class=MsoFooter><B>Susan:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay,
I most probably will; much food for thought.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ll bring another of my poor analogies
so you can struggle to work with it. (Laughing.)</P>
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style="COLOR: green">Celestial advice to brother on vignettes
project<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter>Machiventa, my
brother is focusing his energies on a project in which he’s writing vignettes
for a Christian audience to illustrate a rich and personal relationship with
God, and he’s using the daily travels—I’m sure I am going over something that
was already in a discussion—but he’s using the daily travels between a curious,
truth seeking young man and Jesus to illustrate this relationship.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He has 20 vignettes written so far, his
goal is to write 40, and he would like to ask about the direction of the
project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As he writes the last 20
vignettes, he has sensed that spirit is having him drill down to some specific
truths, or those truths that would help bridge the spiritual divide in what he
calls “God’s earth family.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He’s
sensing that the vignette project might also serve as a bridge between followers
of <I>The Urantia Book</I> and those of the <I>Bible</I>.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These vignettes are part of a Lenten
series in his church and he’d like to know if this boy’s journey with Jesus to
the Cross, [that] he is proposing at this point for his last 20 vignettes, if a
literal journey to the Cross has Michael’s blessing—or your blessing—or is this
path going to be too controversial, and is he going in the wrong direction?</P>
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class=MsoFooter><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>First of all, his sense that there has been a change is correct.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is the necessity of the first
series of vignettes to engage the audience, to broaden the audience, to make
them curious and to help develop their staying power as the course of these
vignettes change.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His vision of
working towards the Cross is his own vision, and it would be perhaps—and we have
no argument with that—but perhaps [it] may be better served to engage those
remaining 20 vignettes to help bridge the gap between these various belief
systems, to be more specific, as he suggested.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He should not forget that there are 40
days after Easter to the Epiphany, as well, are there not?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So he, in many ways is only one quarter
done.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not challenging him to
make 80 vignettes, but we offer this as an opening in his consciousness to
realize that these vignettes are to engage the reader for the eventuality of
yes, the Cross (Easter,) but we also wish you to remember that Easter was a
man-made event, that Jesus <I>accepted</I> this event by not thwarting it
himself, or asking God to thwart it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>But the real goal was the Epiphany, his rising into heaven, after his
many visitations in morontial form.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This was the true destiny of his life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter>The intervention
of Easter was man-made, and we offer these comments only as suggestions for your
brother’s thinking.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not
necessarily offer a scenario, a series of vignettes for him to write, but for
him to rethink what he is doing and the purposes in the ends of Jesus’
life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Jesus’ life was truly as a
messenger.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He was a messenger for
all mankind, all humankind, to reassess their relationship with God, and he did
that; and these vignettes are suggestions of how to live life day-to-day in the
company of Jesus, as Jesus lived his life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This in many ways exemplifies the efforts to understand “What would Jesus
do?” but in ways and in vignettes that people can more clearly understand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Jesus does not tell people what to
believe, but how to <I>think</I> in alignment with his way of living, and so
these vignettes truly lead the individual into their own ascension.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just as Jesus rose into heaven at the
Epiphany, so too do you rise in consciousness in your own Epiphany when you
realize that the veil between life and death is so transparent that you can see
the other side oftentimes before your own crossing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, with these thoughts, I will
leave him with these open suggestions, without telling him how to proceed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He will understand how to proceed when
he goes into meditation and reflects upon these thoughts that I share with him
now. </P>
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class=MsoFooter><B>Susan:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I
thank you and I thank you for him as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Those are all the questions that I have at this point.</P>
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style="COLOR: green">Our responsibilities and opportunities as partners with
spirit<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
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class=MsoFooter><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>For the Triumvirate and for our respective teams and staffs who are with
us now, we thank you for this greater discussion.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In this more earnest opportunity to
enlighten you as to your responsibilities and to your opportunities as partners
with us in the social and spiritual evolution of your world, we ask you to think
in terms of social service to assist your world to grow and evolve socially, to
give each individual in that growing society opportunities to grow spiritually
and see their oneness with God within, the relationship with their Thought
Adjuster, the God presence within them, in a more intimate way.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter>We appreciate
the direction and thoughtfulness of your questions and we know that this engages
your personal life, but you have really no way of knowing how useful it is to
your audience, but we wish to apprise you that it is very valuable both to
yourselves, your audience and to us and to the consciousness of your world,
which is now growing very much.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
wish you good day today as you come upon the coming week to celebrate this
cultural celebration of Jesus’ birth, whether it is historically accurate or
culturally accurate does not matter, but that you celebrate the Brotherhood and
the Fatherhood of Jesus, who brought you into this world in so many ways.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good day.</P>
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