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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#800080>New Era Conversations #14 –
Working with the Magisterial Mission – Jan. 10, 2014</FONT></H2>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Machiventa Melchizedek</B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #993300"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Calling candidates to the Magisterial
Mission<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Altruistic motivations are
preferable<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Money as a motivating force<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Susan’s community team project – addressing individual
needs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Addressing the three core values in meeting
needs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Adding the co-creative factor in community
work<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">The non-contact factor in society<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Celestials use measurements of soul growth and receptivity
of the mind<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">The importance of centering before team
meetings<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">The difficulty of mortals conceiving of a God who cares
for each mortal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">The direction of the vignettes
project<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Machiventa’s closing statements<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Moderators:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Michael McCray and Susan Bryner</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>January 10, 2014</FONT></H1>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>[This is a partial transcript for
public distribution.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The rest will
be published at a later time, per Machiventa’s instruction.]</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Prayer:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>Heavenly Father, Michael and
Nebadonia, we greet you from the beautiful world of Urantia.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are most grateful for this wonderful
opportunity to speak to our mentors, which always enlarges our horizons of
intellectual and spiritual growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Our intention for this session is to provide our reading audience with
more information for their growth and anticipations about the future plans for
our world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you and
amen.<o:p></o:p></I></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Calling candidates
to the Magisterial Mission</FONT></U></H3>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is
Machiventa Melchizedek.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Group
greets him warmly.)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for
your greeting.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is good to be
here with you once again after the Christmas and New Year break.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our plans are developing very nicely; we
are bringing together people who are unlikely candidates, from your perspective,
to become enjoined and engaged in our work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of those who are being drawn in
truly do not know about the capacity or capability that we are presenting to
Urantia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not necessary that
everyone understand the context of the Magisterial Mission, or the Teaching
Mission, or <I>The</I> <I>Urantia Book</I>, for them to become effective
participants and co-creators with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is simply necessary that they have good intention and they see there
is a larger connection of all existence in the universe, and that there is an
omnipresent, omniscient understanding and knowing that is all powerful to engage
all circumstances, both personal and universal.</P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is important for each of you
to remain open minded and see others for the potential that they may bring to
our work, rather than being prejudicial or having an ingrained bias due to some
preconceived notion about their ethnicity or race, or education, or social
circumstance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find that
throughout all our work we are accepting of all people and all circumstances who
are inclined to help us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those who
wish to create havoc and to wreak disruption in the world, we do not engage;
they have their own angelic and Thought Adjuster connections—if those are still
intact—to help them regain a sense of balance and contextual relevance to their
lives in the management of this world.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These people with diverse backgrounds
that you speak of, are these the people that you might use money as a motivating
force?</P>
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style="COLOR: red"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, definitely not necessarily
money.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you tell us more about your plans
to use money as a motivating force?</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Altruistic
motivations are preferable</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us continue on with the more
altruistic motivations first, as that is a more general way in which we prefer
to engage those who work with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>People who have commitment to higher ideals are surely those who fit into
the category of altruistic contributions, those who have made a commitment to
assist the planet with material sustainability or in some social way to uplift
societies, whether that means whole cultures, or simply a family within a small
village—or the whole village itself.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The work of Christ Michael and myself and Monjoronson rests upon the
shoulders of individuals who subscribe to higher ideals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those individuals are service motivated,
who see themselves as growing spiritual organisms in God’s Universe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We wish to use all those who are
capable, for they will learn the most; they will see the connections between
service and growth; they will see the connections between their wholeness and
the growing wholeness of their societies; they see the wholeness and the
trans-generational continuity within their own families that have brought them
to where they are and where they will assist their children to aspire and reach
to higher levels of cultural growth and spiritual development.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In many cases, that may be initiated and
begun in a church setting, but many times it is not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>More mature minds come to the
realization that everything is connected and that there is an “all in one and
one in all,” that as the one affects the whole, the whole then affects the
individual as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This creates
not only a philosophical holism in the minds of these individuals, but a
spiritual connectedness to all that exists.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, it is in this the train of
continuity we wish to use with all these efforts.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As I mentioned last time, money
is the last holdout, the last respite for attracting people and motivating
groups of individuals to participate in this work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Even then, many of those who will
participate due to an influx of funds will oftentimes leave before the end is
seen; they will go on to another job or another situation, or seek greener
pastures, wherever that might be.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are quite well aware that the influx of money usually creates far more
problems than it creates solutions.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now, your question concerning
money?</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Money as a
motivating force</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you tell us more about your plans
to use money as a motivating force?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We spoke in generalities last time, and
as specific as we care to go at this point.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would it not be wonderful if there were
some plan for regeneration of the societies, the civilization of your
planet?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would it not be wonderful
if there were some mechanisms for doing that?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would it not be wonderful if there was a
means of empowering positive groups to grow to participate effectively with each
other through common, philosophical goals emplaced by pragmatic organizational
plans and organizational development?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Money then becomes only the initiating factor to help develop those joint
organizations that would eventually become profit-making centers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, we do not care to get too specific
about money as you have an affinity for dollars and cents, which is “mine,”
which is “yours” and how I can get “yours” into my pocket.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not cynical about this; we are
simply very well aware of the difficulties, those pitfalls of human thinking
that concerns possessions, materiality and particularly money, which is the acme
of materialistic thinking.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Oh yeah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can appreciate that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does anybody have any questions for this
gentleman?</P>
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<H5 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: purple"><U><FONT
size=3>Susan’s community team project – addressing individual
needs<o:p></o:p></FONT></U></SPAN></H5>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I do have a couple.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, I would like to talk about a
couple in relation to the secular team that I am working with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are entering into that time in which
we are beginning to distill our discussion of values from the conceptual level
to a real and stated level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
discussion you had with us during our last session was of great assistance to me
in broadening my understanding of the three core values.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As I began to view this “striving to
become more” as a driving force that is coded in our DNA, I could sense the
intricate connectedness of the three values and a positive feedback system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m beginning to see how placing the
highest value upon these driving forces within each of us will drive our
civilization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will drive the
health and well being of my children, my family and my community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So that’s where I’m at, at the community
level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>One of the questions that arise
for me, out of this, has to do with the recognition that people in my
community—or any community—are at differing levels in attainment of these
needs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some are still struggling to
secure their physical needs for food and shelter, others have adequate food and
shelter and they are focusing, as you said earlier, on their need for security,
steady employment, gaining the resources to care for their family, then there
are others of us who are blessed with this already and are driven more by social
desires, and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, as a team
when we set out this design or create a plan, we will need to take all this into
account.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m questioning where we
begin with this and hoping that you might speak to me about how best to keep
this in mind while we address the specific problems in the community.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I would be glad to.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This one has helped us in what we will
deliver to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He too, has
struggled with these values—you call them the “driving force.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These three values are the driving force
of every individual, and they are interpreted in a hierarchy of needs, as was
described by some of your psychiatrists and others in the past, who described a
hierarchy of needs.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those who have
less have more basic needs than those who have much.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some live in houses which are not well
insulated and which have need of better plumbing and electricity, and so they
seek a better shelter, whereas some people live in a gargantuan house, and have
no concerns for that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So, as you work with this, you
will see that the three core values of social sustainability express in all
individuals according to their need.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Where some people have need for better shelter, others do not; where some
people have need for learning how to be a clerk, working with a teller machine,
for instance, or an adding machine, others have this capability already in their
mind and are aspiring to other levels.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You are beginning to think as a community planner; you are beginning to
think in holistic terms, and that is how we wish you to proceed, if
possible.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We know that specific
community programs that are funded, can only address certain need levels of
individuals within your community.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Addressing the
three core values in meeting needs</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We wish you to think in terms of
these three values as also assisting individuals to understand where they are in
their lives; to think in terms of these three values and how they express in
their own lives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, for instance,
are well cared for.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The three core
values have been evident in your life for a long time and have been well
fulfilled.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, as a spiritual
aspiring individual, have learned the lessons of ethics and morality and have a
social conscience, so that now, you have come to the level of service in your
soul growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you begin to see
this level of spiritual development within individuals, then you can begin to
develop community plans that help various levels of individuals at their need
level, while taking advantage of those who have developed wisely and grown well,
to become of service.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You, as a planner, would need to
know and become acquainted with individuals whom you estimate have completed
their levels of inner growth, have a social conscience.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are they ethical? Are they living
morally?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do they make good moral
decisions?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you see these
individuals, then you can call upon them to be of service, because their work
with their Thought Adjuster and their Thought Adjuster working with them, will
deliver them to you, to work with you in service.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, as a community planner, with your
committee, your team will need to view your community as to where there is the
greatest need.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do most people in
your community have a social conscience to know what is appropriate social
etiquette, and the rights and wrongs of social conduct?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there a need for moral growth,
development and instruction?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is
there need for ethical growth, development and instruction?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On the other hand, you may be asking
what is holding a group of your community, your populace, back from growing and
developing into their potential?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This may become an area that your team would be interested in
developing.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Your question is most difficult
as you are beginning to see the level of service that could be provided in a
holistic community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are far
behind the curve, but you are seeing more than almost anyone in your nation sees
in this holistic, spiritual, material, social way of living.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is daunting to be in your shoes, we
know.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Adding the
co-creative factor in community work</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You would be best served as you
prepare your team to work together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Take a few moments of reflection, contemplation and meditation, asking
the question, “What do I need to know?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What needs to be revealed to me to assist this team in moving forward,
and what do the team members need to have revealed to them to move forward in a
constructive way?” <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is here, dear
one, that you will find us working co-creatively with you consciously and
unbeknownst to your team members, upon your request.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You provide us with the material eyes
and material mind to assess the needs of your team, to integrate their thinking
and to move forward with an effective planning process and effective
project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is here where the tire
meets the ground, boots on the ground, so to speak, where we and you work
together to devise a workable, productive, effective program for a segment or
the breadth of your population in your community that achieves goals that we
wish to see achieved, and you and your team needs to see achieved.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have spoken very broadly here in
answer to your question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hope I
have not confused you.</P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you; you have spoken broadly, and
it has touched on where the answers are when essentially my question was
probably, “Where would we begin in the planning process when there are these
multiple levels of need and expression of the inner drive that are the three
core values?”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of the things I
think I understood out of this was we start, perhaps, at the basic need, the
lowest need, but we do this with people who are at a different level, obviously,
in their growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think that that
was understood. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But…</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>The non-contact
factor in society</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me speak a moment to that, if I
may.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I apologize for interrupting
you; it is a thought that I do not want to vaporize in this one’s mind, and that
is there is a level of individuals in every community who are unserviceable,
who, no matter how much you help, they will not improve their circumstances in
life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are the unworkable
percentage whose mind mechanisms are incomplete, or unworkable, whose social
maturity in learning is so defective as to not be able to use any learning or
growing positively for their self-maintenance later.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You only need to make your services
available and let them enter into working with you, rather than trying to
force-feed every individual who has a need.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a certain dropout factor or
non-contact factor in every society, who will either not come to your services,
or will refuse them, or will not use them effectively.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do not feel guilty about this; simply
make your services available.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those
who come — some will use it wisely, and some will not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, do not feel guilty about those
you cannot serve, or who refuse to be served.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That was an important thought to include
in this process for me and for our team.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Celestials use
measurements of soul growth and receptivity of the mind</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, you have your businesses and your
foundations, incorporations, [that] have measurements which determine the return
on your investment, whether your investment is effective or not, and so we also
assess the effectiveness of our programs in the same and similar terms, but with
different measurements and ours is soul growth, receptivity of the mind function
of individuals, which we can quite exactly measure.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think this is helpful and I’m going to
again, as you say, let this percolate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There is going to be another meeting here soon and I’m struggling with
how I distill the conversation, the discussion about values to these three core
values, which I know will come.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
are telling me to take my time to ask for help and to meditate on this, and to
ask my team to be brought to this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I’m going to trust this process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I’m very excited about the next step.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t have any more comments, unless
you do.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">The importance of centering before team
meetings<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you are experiencing is vital to
us, that you begin to engage us consciously and to trust that we will be of
assistance to you, directly, by working with and in the minds of your team.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of your team are spiritually
connected and some are not so much, but we can work with all of those who
actively do not reject us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
possibility of assistance from us is very real.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you use some sort of centering
process in the beginning of your team meetings?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It does not necessarily need to be a
religious invocation, calling upon God and the Trinity to be of assistance, but
some moment of centering, which you may call “come to center,” as you have
practiced before, a time of personal reflection of intention for being there at
your meeting.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is all in the
form of a question.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, we do; we actually do have someone
who is of a great spiritual nature and recognized by all.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He leads us in a prayer with those
intentions and everyone seems to take a moment and center around that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you say, not everyone is really
spiritual, but that has been honored and I think it has worked.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Excellent!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What we are seeking in this moment is a
moment of “no thought,” a moment of open thought where we… (Laughing.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a signal for us to enter.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand me?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I do.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A point at which we can most succinctly
and quickly address each separate mind during that vacant period.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When minds are busy making agendas and
thinking and doing and teaching and telling and connecting in their mind, even
during prayer, that creates a block for us to enter their minds at that
time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But, if you could engage your
spiritual leader of the group to offer the members a five or ten second break in
their thinking of “no thought,” that would be wonderful for our work to work
with you in this way.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Great!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will do this; thank you.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I have two questions that have
been given to me by my brother. </P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>The difficulty of
mortals conceiving of a God who cares for each mortal</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>He asks, “I know it takes almost
an infinite number of rain drops to fill an ocean. But without each rain drop
there would be no ocean. It is this sense of smallness and vastness that makes
it so difficult for us to conceive of a God that cares about each raindrop. My
question is:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How can we help our
brothers and sisters break through this thought barrier of insignificance to
believe in a creator God that loves us individually and wants to be in personal
relationship with us?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A wonderful question!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This was all about the life of
Jesus.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Christ Michael as Jesus
brought a new testament, a new paradigm of belief, whereas in the Hebrew belief
God was “out there” and impersonal and so they viewed and talked with God as an
impersonal God.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Jesus came to
reveal to humankind that God is personal, that God is deeply personal and that
God is there for you and with you, and that you are the expression of It in
mortal lifetime, that without you, God cannot [experience] Its universe as
completely as when you are in union with God.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are materially God’s eyes and ears
to experientially engage the material world, which God as an eternal God cannot
do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>God has bridged the gap between
eternality and materiality through the mind of you, through being present within
you as a fragment of Itself to be there literally, personally with you in your
mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Your acceptance of that in
conscious personal relationship is essential for God to fulfill Its
completeness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus, when the human
mind, human personality begins to appreciate that they are<SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>necessary and needed by God to fulfill Its
completeness, that makes the relationship between the individual and God much
more palpable and much more necessary as a fulfillment of God, which in fact
also fulfills the individual in their lifetime and their spiritual ascendant
journey.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is all about the
personal; it is all about God being personal.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When people see God as “out there” and
distant as the ocean of all, then they have difficulty relating to It and they
are simply swimming in the sea of Godness, which is not personal—it is still
impersonal.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, it is necessary
for the person to “hope” that there is a God who is personal, to “believe” that
God has the capacity to be personal, has “faith” that God does want a personal
relationship, and further “trusts” that this relationship does in fact
exist.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All of this leads to the
individual eventually “knowing” God from actually experiencing that personal God
within them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First “hope,” then “belief,” then
“trust,” then experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s
wonderful!</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Hope, belief, faith, trust and
knowing</B>.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>The direction of
the vignettes project</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, for him.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His second question:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“I sense that there is almost a
spiritual instinct that is drawing each of us to the Father, but it seems our
rational minds by and large are inclined to doubt and deny all things spiritual
which ironically only leads to loneliness and despair. So how can we as light
workers motivate our brothers and sisters to seek God in the stillness and to
develop a conscious conversational relationship with Father when any thought of
being alone with God only exacerbates their fear and anxiety?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the most difficult juxtaposition
that exists in the human/God relationship, and this thought of separateness or
separation, where sometimes individuals come to know God through the ecstatic
joy of gratitude, the infinite dimension of gratitude of feeling and sensing God
within, the joy that is expressed in living in God’s world, of appreciating
flowers and children and insects and sunlight and the seasons, and knowing that
it is all coordinated and orchestrated by God.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And, so this person is drawn to God
through this ecstatic gratitude and appreciation, the joy of presence of being
in God’s universe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, there
are those who cannot express God and know God in God’s fullest presence until
they have gone to the depths of greatest despair, that which approaches the
extinction of themselves, in fact.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There are some who cannot go to those depths without finally reaching to
God to save them from the morass of their own rational thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the capacity of God, the Thought
Adjuster, who provides that instinctual “knowing.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That effervescent presence of God
cannot be made manifest until there is acceptance within the rational mind that
there is a possibility that God wants to love them, no matter how despicable
they feel about themselves, or how desperate and lonely they may be.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is upon that rock that the ego
must be broken, the rational mind must accept that they are incomplete and can
only find completion and wholeness in the joy of oneness with God.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those individuals of the third category,
rests upon that fence of belief/disbelief, knowing and unknowing, certainty and
uncertainty, that equivocating mind that cannot accept or reject with finality,
and it is this mind that your brother wrestles with, that those who are in great
despair will of necessity come to know God, either in this lifetime of finding
completion, or as they transfer themselves to the afterlife and find that
recognition there.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those in the
middle ground who equivocate, they are the ones who know and don’t know.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your brother has done his job, his
business of being an evangel of God by presenting the truth to them, whether
they accept or not is not his business, and his displeasure and unhappiness that
they do not whole-heartedly accept as he has accepted is not his concern.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He has done his part; he has done his
business and this is the great difficulty of Fundamental Christians that want
the other party to totally know and accept the joy of God and knows with
certainty that God exists, and embrace the evangel with that certainty.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His job is complete; he has brought the
message to them and the responsibility remains the others’.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His own difficulty in his own service
is<SPAN style="COLOR: red"> </SPAN>the crux of this:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He must know that he is the messenger
and he has pronounced the message, just as the Mormon angel, Moroni, trumpets
from the peak-tops of churches to spread the word to all humankind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your brother is doing his job and doing
it miraculously; he must rest assured that he has done his job and not
equivocate and doubt that he has done his job.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Simply accept that he is doing it and
doing a very good job at that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
hope that this message helps him and helps you understand this more
thoroughly.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m feeling like you are saying that he
is blowing the Shofar; it’s not up to him to motivate.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>Machiventa:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Exactly.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those are all the questions that I have
at this time, and I’m going to turn this back over to Michael.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Questions from any others?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, I have a considerable number of
questions that I’m prepared for to help our audience define and understand the
strict concepts that you’ve given us in the past.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because so much of this of today’s
session has been essentially closed, or will be closed until sometime in the
future, it might be best since we are almost an hour and twenty minutes into
this, we save those questions for another time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is your choice.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us work this for another twenty
minutes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It sounds like you have a
unit of thought that you would like to go into at one time to complete them all
in connection with each other?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If
you wish to do that at a later time…</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s going to take me—with your
explanations—it’s going to take longer than 20 minutes, I think.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then let us hold those for next
time.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Machiventa’s
closing statements</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have enjoyed this session very much.
</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You, dear one, Susan, as you work
in your community, you too will be gaining insight and confidence in working
with us consciously, as you hear through the mouths of your committee members,
your team members, the insights that we have shared with them that make sense to
them and make sense to the other team members.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not that we are making marionettes
of you at all—certainly we do not—we simply offer your minds the most
appropriate and most optimal references and insights that you can move forward
with.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Nonetheless, the human mind,
the human decision, the human will can pick and choose what it wishes to express
and share.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All of you are beginning
to see how we work with you through your conscious willingness to work with
us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you will to give us the
latitude to work with you in your minds, then we do and you see evidence of that
in your lives then, through yourself and through others.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Thank you for this opportunity to
be a revelator to you, a teacher to you, a master to you, and as your Planetary
Prince and Manager as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
were many here in attendance today, watching, observing, listening as you were
thinking and observing your own thoughts in this process.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have learned a great deal, as we will
learn so much from those we mentioned earlier in today’s session.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We send you our blessings, we anoint you
with our touch, and know that you are living evidence of Christ Michael’s work
in your world today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good day.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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