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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoBodyText><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>New Era Conversations #22 – Working with Spirit; Developing Wisdom – May
23, 2014</FONT></STRONG></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Charles</B>, a Mighty Messenger</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Questions from the South African co-creative design
team<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">What do we take with us to the mansion
worlds?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Working with spirit consciously and without
expectations<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Duality of the universe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">God Centered Metaphysics<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Developing experiences into wisdom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The hierarchy of values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Secularism</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Team members:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxanne Andrews, Susan Bryner and
Michael McCray</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>May 23, 2014</FONT></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN> </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Prayer:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>[Tape was not running.]<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>. . . on the whole planet, and we
are awed and overwhelmed by the partnership and the responsibilities that you
have embraced us with and which we receive with great gratitude.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We know that only through our combined
efforts can this world enter into a life that is knowingly and consciously
evolved, and so, we thank you so much.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Amen.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is Charles; it is a
pleasure to be with you today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
have given you much material to think about and to digest, and to, hopefully,
realize that your world, your universe is far more complex, and yet quite simple
as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us begin with your
first question, please.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Questions from the
South African co-creative design team</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Charles, I had a delightful message
from one of our readers in Pretoria, South Africa.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am amazed at how much work she has
been able to accomplish in regard to what we have been sending to her in
transcripts.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She has seven ladies,
each are of a different religion, and she started a co-creative design team with
them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She sent me many pages of
what they have accomplished, with pictures of the group members; it was quite
impressive!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She had a question that
she wanted to ask of you:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“I would
like to ask Charles about the fate of the missing Nigerian girls and how we can
assist, not only the process of having them released, but also in solving the
problem of religious fundamentalism posed by Boko Haram, their captors.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would love to hear our celestial
guides speak about the resolution of this matter, and how concerned humans can
assist the process.”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The first question is about the
girls.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, we are quite aware of
the missing girls and what has occurred with them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you will find is that they are
being “programmed,” very similarly as Patty Hearst was programmed after her
kidnapping by her captors and came to believe in what they said, and even
supported what they were doing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These girls will become adherents to that movement and will disavow their
connection with western education, as Boko Haram has put itself against.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What will happen with the girls?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A few that have run away, some were
captured and dispatched; others came back and were found.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The majority of them live in fear; they
are almost all of a susceptible age to become programmed, conditioned for the
mission of Boko Haram.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of
these girls will never be seen again; some will be seen but as cohorts or
companions, or soldiers with Boko Haram.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is most unfortunate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Very few of these young women will return to their home societies.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Answering the second question is
that we do not involve ourselves in those movements, as they are almost
unanimously anti-humanitarian; they are attempts to terrorize the hearts, minds
and souls of those people who participate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Those who are open to our approach would be seen as spies and would be
exiled or removed or killed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They
are an extremist organization and very violent.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They see themselves as incredibly pure
and even holy, and in complete alignment with the wishes of their movement.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You, dear woman, arguing the most
that can be done in such a situation, and that is to help your fellow brothers
and sisters to evolve socially, emotionally and spiritually and religiously, and
to see past the religions to the oneness that exists among you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You realize now that the three core
values of social sustainability are the values that have sustained your species
for over 40,000 years and onwards to 500,000 years from the beginning of your
species.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These values are almost
unknown to most people, and therefore they have not been able to grow
rapidly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When individuals begin to
understand those three core values of the quality of life, growth and equality,
and then to apply them consciously to their lives and to their children and
community, those environments can change very rapidly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>There is an unconscious urge that
seems to emanate from your DNA in your behavior to advance your life’s quality
by growing; you begin to engage that consciously, so that all your thoughts and
all your decisions are towards improving the quality of your life and growing in
a capacity to do so to a better degree.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You are the eminent example that we point to in your society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not something you have to “pound
in;” it is not something that you have to proselytize or sell, but something to
share by word of mouth, easily, to those people that are open to you and
friendly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find that you
are living in a social petri dish, where your benevolent virus will grow and
benefit everyone, much as your historic scientists discovered penicillin, almost
by accident, and so your work is the beginning of “spreading.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These women are mothers, wives, sisters
and they are able to teach their children in their families these truths that
benefit everyone.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Yes, of course, there will be
people who will attack you physically and who will want to destroy what you have
made, and so, you must protect yourself, and you must leave that area if you
know this in advance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How you could
help is to remain in consciousness for the oneness of all people, which you
demonstrate in your group of women.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Hold this consciousness so that you spread this like you have seen the
vapors from carbon dioxide in water, that this cool fog spreads out evenly
across the floor and so you see your consciousness doing the same.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This would be pink in color—a light
pink—would be vaporous in nature and it would surround all those individuals
with whom it comes in contact.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Realize that your consciousness is powerful and that it is uniting; it
does not cause separation and isolation, but it causes integration of
like-minded people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus,
like-minded people will come to you and ask for the truth that you have been
exercising, and we ask you to share with them humbly, but powerfully.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Charles, from Marthe as well
as me.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>What do we take
with us to the mansion worlds?</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If we do not take the harmful, negative
thoughts and experiences with us to the mansion worlds, what do we take with
us?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You take all the positive and neutral
thoughts and experiences with you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You even take your assumptions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Everything that you bring with you is either proven wisdom, which will be
validated when you get to the other side, or it is grist for the mill of your
celestial, morontial education.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your assumptions will be incredibly useful to you as you reform yourself
in your morontial mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your
erroneous assumptions will be—not attacked—but will be “massaged” with your
team, your groups and instructors, so that all of you benefit from the similar
experience involving the revelations for those assumptions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You will find it is amazing how
like-minded you are with your fellow students in your class, and your class may
be composed of 5, 6 or 7 individuals; it may be a class of 7,000 all in one
auditorium, but you will have an intimate team and class that you will work
with; this will be your home group and you will have many things in common so
that your learning goes rapidly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What you discover with your group teacher, others will discover as well,
and you will soon realize the process of examining assumptions that leads to
those moments of clarity, those “ah-ha” insights that lead you to integrating
the truth, beauty and goodness that you will be learning and exposed to in the
morontial realm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is your awareness, from your
“ah-has,” your spontaneous insights that will stick with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These are the reformed, educational,
bits and pieces from your assumptions that will form who you become in that
realm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will see many roles that
you played in your lifetime that can be useful to your education.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Role-play in your new regard, is also
highly important, that eventually, you will become teachers of new ones who come
to the teaching worlds.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The student
becomes the teacher, and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As
you teach, you will be also a student at the same time, or in another situation
during the same era.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will bring
many of the things that you have experienced in life that were not negative and
were not destructive, but which were unknown, or that you had not thought of,
not yet seen in a new way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of
your experiences here in the mortal realm are truly instructive, but because of
how you were raised, and you have not been taught how to examine these
experiences and thoughts that you had, you cannot learn from them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Some of you are becoming more
highly attuned and developed to do this already.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of you are now approaching the
lower levels of morontial mind and can see from your past experiences that these
are lessons, and you gather similar lessons together and you develop a wisdom
out of that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, the dots of
discord and disharmony were incomplete, but now they become complete and you
become whole in your personality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You find oneness in your own being, and so, as you do this, you will
become ready for your next transition, your next evolutionary change that exists
within the morontial realm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
how you progress; slowly, you build upon your prior experience in the mortal
realm and you connect them with your experiences in the morontial realm, to
develop more evolved insights and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When this is complete, then you
will make the transition to the next life experience.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You recall that there are well over 500
life experience changes that you will experience in the morontial realm, and so,
this will occur over centuries and thousands of years of Urantia time, and you
will find the newness and freshness to each one of these levels of achievement
and to be given a thorough knowledge of what to anticipate through this era of
growth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, you will even—when you
become a finaliter—will have recall of the positive aspects of your mortal life,
and you will have them and hold them in your memory banks for use as you become
an agent within the Corps of Finality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Some of you will become Mighty Messengers and highly useful to the
realms, and you will have this wonderful experiential history to draw upon to
make associations with those whom you made contact with on the worlds of time
and life.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Working with
spirit consciously and without expectations </FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, thank you very much.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During our last session, we spoke with
Monjoronson, and I apologize for asking a question about something that he said,
but I believe you will be able to answer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>He spoke of our consciously working with you—that is the greater
“you”—spirit and the consciousness of spirit of this planet, for an outcome
without expectation of when that outcome appears, or in what form it appears, he
said that this was the way to align ourselves with Michael and Nebadonia.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you be willing to tell us more
about this, please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, of course.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have been told many things through
<I>The Urantia Book</I>, through the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission,
and these conversations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have
been given many things to look forward to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Many of you hold this loosely in your hand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You anticipate these things to occur,
but you have not formulated how they would come to you or your world, or
when.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Doing so, holding this
loosely and accepting these pronouncements and announcements, allow you to be in
alignment with Christ Michael and Nebadonia.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, when you hold expectations for
how these developments may occur, what they may manifest as, and when, is a
reflection of your own material-mindedness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is your humanness expressing
through the thoughts and announcements of Christ Michael and the Triumvirate and
others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is very much like having a
child’s cartoon coloring book: you see the outline of the figures, and so this
is the pronouncement of Christ Michael or Nebadonia, or other members of the
Triumvirate, and so you think it is incomplete; you think it is not whole,
though you may not have this opinion verbalized to others or in your mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, you see that picture and you
think that this child holding this flower, the flower ought to have yellow
petals and a black center, with a green stem.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is your opinion; that is your
estimation of what you see in your mind’s eye of that picture.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The pronouncements of Christ
Michael and others are similar in that way; they are outlines of what they say
will occur, without saying how or when.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So, the human mind always tries to find completion with such incomplete
data.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of you have a need to
fill in the blanks, to say what it is or isn’t, how it might develop, and
when.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are coloring the truth of
that outline.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is what Christ
Michael and others have provided to you, is an outline of the grand projects
that Christ Michael has—not just proposed—but is now enacting, manifesting in
your world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you have
expectations, that you have conjured or developed in your mind about this
outline, you will come into disappointment about it when you see it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you see that this flower this child
is holding does not have yellow petals or a black center, but actually it is
pink with a yellow center, you would become disappointed; it is not how you see
it, and so, what the Melchizedeks say that “disappointment, disappointment,
disappointment is the fountainhead of spiritual growth,” you must adjust your
disappointments to the reality of what is existing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Few of you can honestly and humbly say,
“I was wrong.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My perspective and my
view of what Christ Michael has proposed is not correct.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, some of you flip into denial and
say, “Oh, this is just so much hooey; this is not real.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so this is just the mind of a mortal
working to make these things visible to us on these transcripts, thus it is
rejected.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your rejection of Christ
Michael’s proposals does not bring those proposals and the enactment and
manifestation of them out of existence; they continue on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is always the mortal who must adjust
their thinking and their beliefs to what is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is right now for most of you is
that you have no clear idea when it will occur, how it will occur and what it
will manifest as.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our advice is to,
as the Buddhist say, to “hold this lightly in your hand without expectations,
without projection of your mind’s images.”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So this consciousness of working with
you and the consciousness of the planet without an expectation of when the
outcome will appear, and what form it might take, is the basis of “Ask and you
will receive,” and “Seek and you will find?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes it is; that is an exceptionally
simple way of looking at it, but is similar.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you seek, you are holding it in
your mind of what it might be, without expectation, and to seek is to look
forward to it without knowing what it might be.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>With the seeking, you release the when
and how, to let spirit bring that to you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When you seek, you have faith that it is already existent, and so that is
the consciousness that is necessary for us to work positively with you in the
development manifestation of the Correcting Time programs.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the outcome that Michael and
Nebadonia would like to see?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The days of light and life!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Duality of the
universe</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Monjoronson spoke about the duality of
physics and a seeming duality of the universe and even [in] ourselves.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He said that we simply need to have one
foot in each part of the universe to manifest the right and perfect outcome for
our lives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But, he also said that
concerning the duality of the universe, that in God’s mind and his mind that all
is one.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you tell us more
about this, please?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us go back before time began to the
realm of eternity, which is separate and apart from the infinite universe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How would God manifest the material
universe of time and dimensions from the position of eternity?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is the essence of your
question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>God did this through what
you know as the ultimaton, known to others as the Adamic particle or the boson
particle.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What your physicists have
not realized is that this particle transits between eternity and the material,
temporal universe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is both
parts; it holds the pattern for the completed universe, and it holds the
program, so to speak, for the evolutionary, developmental progress of the
temporal, dimensional universe to grow from virtually nothing, even the lack of
space, into a dimensional universe. </P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Another error your scientists
consistently make is that the universe in finite, that it is expanding and they
have no recognition or appreciation for how it is doing that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But, you have been told, even by your
spiritual leaders, that creation is ongoing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If it existed in time, billions of years
ago, it exists in time now, which means that it continues.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>God is beyond infinite; God is eternal
and God has chosen to discover Itself, the dimensions of Itself through the
temporal and material dimensional universe, which will, when it approaches
completion in this first phase, that experiential expression will be held in God
the Supreme.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus, when you are
told to have your feet in both realms, it means that you can create like God
creates.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I say “like,” rather than
“as,” simply because God has control of that energy, whereas you have the
capacity to manipulate it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, when
you use your mind, to direct the development of something outward, or
temporally, you are beginning to approach the re-patterning of these ultimaton
particles to be amenable to mind action and to reform in time, that which you
seek to create.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus, you are using
the quantum capacity of mind to manifest immediately, or through the development
of time, that which you seek.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>How is it that when you call into
existence from the universe, your right and perfect mate, your right and perfect
home, your right and perfect children, your right and perfect job, your right
and perfect relationships that these come into being? <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when they do, you thank God, which is
appropriate, because God provided all, 100% of the materials and resources to do
that—even you and your mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When
you enter into your morontial career, through some of those life experiences,
you will be given more capacity to manipulate this energy in laboratories.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You already have the capacity, but you
will be trained how to use and direct the mental action to create things.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will not be creating them out of
nothingness, surely that is impossible, only God has done that from the eternal
mind that It is.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are you beginning
to see these two positions that you live in now, sir?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>God Centered
Metaphysics</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is what some call “God
Centered Metaphysics,” and what mind holds, mind can out-form. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, it is important that you hold in
mind, the greatest possible good that you can—and even more!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because, your mind of awareness, as
conscious as it is, it is still limited by what it knows and what it can
conceive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is from the lack of
information and education and training of your mind that you do not have a
higher capacity to create that which is beneficial to you—time and training that
will occur.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Developing
experiences into wisdom</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>What you are also receiving and
earning on this world is experience.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You must have developed your experiences into wisdom—eternal
wisdom—truth, beauty and goodness to express your minds in ways that produces
good for yourself, for others and your circumstances, and for the universe.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you do this, you have made a huge
leap from being a limited mortal to the almost limitless capacity of your
infinite mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These brief 80
years, approximately, that you walk the earth is time to use wisely, to reserve
those times of reflections to think of your experiences in terms of lessons, to
grow experientially and to learn the wisdom of living your life as an
individual, life with others, life with a civilization and to know your
responsibilities in it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those
individuals who have gone awry in their lives have discovered this in a negative
way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They become God-like in the
most despicable ways; they have learned how to express the weaknesses of
humanity in a means that is contrary to the God-like resources they were given
in their life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You have begun to discover in
your question, sir, that you and others have the capacity to grow
immensely.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is beyond us to
understand why individuals would conceive or wish to pursue evil, iniquitous
ways of living, as it is so limited!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is so egocentric!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
so selfish.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is so
self-destructive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Whereas with
choosing to do God’s Will, inviting God to bring God’s Will into your life as
opportunities for living and development, you have an unlimited capacity to
become God-like in your own being through your ascendant career in your journey
to Paradise and your reception into the Corps of Finality.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think I have a question.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m not sure I am going to be able to
formulate it, but I’d like to give it a try.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The hierarchy of
values</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>In a previous discussion, I had
some questions about bringing spirituality into the social sustainability
project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think I struggled
because of my assumptions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m
still thinking about that cultural drift we have, and I realize that it is very
secular, where everyone’s thoughts, everyone’s ideas are equal, everyone’s
perceptions are equal, and not really allowing for a hierarchy of values that is
very secular, whereas in the spiritual approach to life, there is a hierarchy of
values.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t think I am
developing this question well, but I’m wondering if that’s part of why the
spiritual needs to be brought into social sustainability, to fight that sort of
secular drift, where everyone’s thoughts and perceptions are valued equally and
they are not challenged in relation to higher values?<B><o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Excellent question!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First of all, you would have to be very
socially ignorant not to realize that there is a hierarchy of values, even in
the secular realm, and that those values can be recognized through positive
social action and personal decision-making.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Higher values lead you to be altruistic;
higher values lead you to be compassionate; higher values lead you to be
tolerant.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, you see a huge
difference between racial bigotry and those who are inclusive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do not accept the secular notion that
all values are equal; this is a fallacy of an un-evolved mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Second of all, in your instruction to
others about spirituality, to those people who are secular in nature,
spirituality does not necessarily include a belief in God, for those people who
are secular in nature. </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>There is absolute secularism, and
then there is holistic secularism.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Holistic secularism includes your historic educational principles that
oftentimes the sum of some situations is greater than the total of the
numbers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You would be well advised
to do some research for those expressions and this will lead you to the
awareness that within a group you have more there than just a number of
people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Workmen work together in
pairs in many work situations because the accomplishment of two is oftentimes
equal to three or four who are working separately.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the foundation of holistic
secularism, and that there is something about the aggregate that is greater than
the sum of the numbers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You would have to be almost a
pillar of stone not to feel the grandeur standing next to a giant sequoia.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is truly palpable; this is why many
are so in awe of the red wood forests of California.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those forests feel like holy
ground.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It feels as though there is
a living presence that is more than just the cells and trunk and limbs and
needles of those trees, and it is true.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>There is an esprit that exists among people; there is an esprit in
humanity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Consciousness, which is
recognized by secularists, cannot be measured, cannot be painted, cannot be
stapled to the wall, yet it exists.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It exists out of time; it exists in and out of the temporal, dimensional
universe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is that in quantum
physics grabs those creative particles that can be formed into what will
become.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff
size=3>Secularism</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The threat of secularism is dead;
it is a dead religion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One would
want to know why a secularist would have children; there is almost absolutely no
reason to have children if you are a strict secularist.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the connection between two
individuals, the mother and father, the mother and child, the father and child,
and the union of those three into a family?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a consciousness that is greater
than the sum of the three.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so,
this is the spirituality which you must structure in your writing and your
thinking and your speech in discussions with those who are secularists to help
them bridge the gap.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you know,
we do not sell religion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not
proselytize religion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do, at the
very least, suggest to people that there is more to the universe than just
themselves and the planets, that there is something beyond the sum of all
humanity on your world that creates race consciousness, planetary
consciousness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If they cannot
accept that, then you have little in common with them, dear.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Charles, thank you for that answer;
you’ve got my wheels turning some more and I know I’m going to have some more
questions in a future discussion, but this is very enlightening for me.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We look forward to your questions.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>If you have completed your cycle
of questions, dear ones, then let us close this session for today.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Where there is much to do for many of
you, is not what we are doing here is less important, but that you live on a
material, dimensional, temporal world, and there are many things to do, people
to see and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Realize, dear
ones, as you read these words, that you are part of the whole.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can only escape if you deny its
reality.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And when you escape, then
you escape from the fold of God and to nothingness that is not even
eternal.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This relationship we have
is formative, it is developmental, it is generative with the highest capacity
that you have within yourself to create and re-invent yourself in the image and
likeness of Christ Michael and Nebadonia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We would not be in discussions with you if we did not see that in
you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good day.</P>
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