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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: blue"><FONT size=5>New Era
Conversations #31 – 3 Moral Imperatives; 3 Core Values; Enculturation – Oct. 3,
2014<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>Charles</B></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">An idea for unifying a small community<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The 3 moral imperatives<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The two sides of human nature<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Religious and social conservatism and
fundamentalism<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">There is no convincing a person with such conservative
thinking<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The subjective interpretations of the Islamic State on the 3
core values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Beginning a seed organization to create sustainable societal
structures<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Some individuals will always create their own
interpretations<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">We are the ‘seed’ individuals who will implement the
process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The ‘absence of universal equality’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Jesus totally accepted others as his
equal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Caligastia tinkered with our DNA to maintain our animal
nature<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The 3 core values:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Subjective vs. objective<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The enculturation of the 3 core values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The future disparity of wealth will not be
allowed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The 3 core values are valid,
<I>always</I>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Subjective interpretations lead to war, prejudice, bias and
bigotries<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The over-population problem on individual
values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Team members present:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxanne Andrews, Susan Bryner and
Michael McCray</P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>October 3, 2014</FONT></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Invocation:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>Dear Heavenly Father, Creator of the
universe and all the marvelous beings in it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are most grateful for your creation
of our Michael Son, whom we love and admire beyond words.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our intention today is to meet with one
of the members of the Triumvirate or their staffs, in our service to our planet,
Urantia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We ask for the presence of
Christ Michael and Nebadonia to be with us and to guide us in their plan for the
correction of our world so it will be worthy of entering into the Days of Light
and Life at some future time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amen.
</I></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is Charles, here to answer
questions, and hopefully my responses for the Triumvirate and others will be
clear enough to understand and integrate into your thoughts. This format, this
forum for discussion, has me present and at attention.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am connected with you consciously and
thoroughly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am, for all intents
and purposes, here with you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
circuits are open always from your consciousness, your thoughts and through your
intention in this forum that connects to Christ Michael and his Administration,
and all of those who are concerned with this topic, and this forum.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many have the capacity to receive from
millions and billions of individuals, depending upon the development of their
inherent spiritual maturity and divinity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You do not need to worry that this forum is attended, but it is heard and
thoroughly understood by those who receive it.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We are open for your questions at
this time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please proceed.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>An idea for
unifying a small community</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, Charles.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was thinking about the numbers that
Machiventa talked about in our last session.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He said that less than 10,000 people
would determine the course of our world in the next 50 years.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If so few, are actively engage in any
given community of people, I was wondering how so few can make a difference. How
does someone like myself—maybe the only one in my community—unify people who are
so separate; separate socially, politically, and religiously and teach them how
to engage in positive, constructive discussions?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So, I had an idea, and I have
questions around that idea.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was
thinking of a series of dinner groups where a small committee of us, perhaps a
design team, could set up a series of topics or issues important to our
community and pose questions around those topics.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then we would engage as many people as
we could in our community through a dinner group series. </P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We would <A
name=_GoBack></A>invite people in the community to become hosts of a series of
dinners in their homes. These hosts would gather 8-10 people to have a meal
together and discuss the questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Then the hosts, as well as anyone interested, would gather at Town Hall
meetings where the summaries of the dinner groups are discussed and facilitated
again, and then these thoughts and ideas are shared in the local news and across
our social networks.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This all
sounded fine and good—I know this has been done before in other places—but then
I thought, well, does this really have the potential to unify people who are so
independently minded?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So that’s my
first question:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does forums like
this have the potential to help small communities come together to ultimately
discuss the issues of social sustainability?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The short answer is yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a wonderful means by which
neighbors and friends in community can come together to become acquainted.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you know from this process, there is
a certain dropout factor that occurs, and you should be prepared for that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, as you have your first dinners—as
there would be numerous dinners that occur simultaneously or close together,
there will be individuals who will drop out, and if those who remain are not
sufficient in number to reconstitute them to become a functional dinner party of
discussion, then all will be lost for the whole team.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you will need to do to think ahead
and to have a means by which those who continue to be interested, become members
of other dinner teams, who in the future can have enough individuals to continue
the discussion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important
that you provide this awareness in advance to invitations to those who are
invited, so that they can be prepared ahead of time with the thought that they
may be joining another team or group that they may have not met.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are you with me so far?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is one of the major problems
of these movements and these organizational processes that lead to failure, and
if you do not anticipate that, then you will have a failing program.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What happens for those people who go to
the second dinner party or to a larger forum, is that then you have people who
are totally committed, or fairly well committed, to discover what is to occur
and who are curious enough to pursue that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This helps greatly in developing the strength of those who remain.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that you have a
facilitator at each dinner party, so that each dinner party can function and
move ahead.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This facilitator should
not be regarded as the authority figure, but someone who simply facilitates the
discussion of the topics, and someone who as well can record briefly the
outcomes and developments and product of that meeting.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Keep it very, very simple and have the
people enjoy the conviviality as much as they can, without becoming too serious
over the discussion.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That was my thought to start with simple
things that would engage those of the community that are gathering, and then if
it begins to work, to start to pose those questions around the topics of social
sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would this provide
the celestials with an opportunity to work with us more effectively?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it would; it would help them
greatly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The other thing I would
ask you to do, as you begin this process, is to consciously and intentionally
engage the angelic realm to assist you and to give them the direction to project
the consciousness of community oneness, of coming together, where people
actually leave their home, get in their car and drive to someplace to meet with
other people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is preparatory
to creating those people who are connected in consciousness for the benefit of
the community and themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
is the subtle aspect of you, as the originator of this project to do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your work is energetic in many ways, and
to energize each aspect with angelic assistance and to ask the angels, those
involved, to fill-in the gaps where your thinking does not, in a way that
supports the project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this
clear?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Susan:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is; it is very helpful.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hope you can understand me, Charles; I
have a bad cold.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your mind is clear; your voice is very
froggy/croaky.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The 3 moral
imperatives</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have been given the 3 core values,
the 3 pillars, the 3 economies, and the 3 moral imperatives.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know some of our readers are having
trouble keeping them all straight, particularly the last one, the 3 moral
imperatives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are they
interrelated?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can you tie them all
together, or are they to be separate?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are all integrated, as one single
imperative.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fundamentally, that
imperative is that no harm be done to another, that no one does any harm to
another that impedes the other to achieve their own interpretation of those 2
values.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s it!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m still a little confused on them.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is why we have developed it into
three parts, that individuals would not do harm to another individual, or do
harm to an organization, or do harm to your civilization.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Individuals also exist within
organizations, and there is always an organizational identity that has its own
means of empowerment that is social, economic or political, and that
organizations have an imperative to do no harm to individuals, to other
organizations, or to the civilization of the world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are also individuals who exist in
global organizations and international and transnational organizations that, as
an organization, can do “good” or do harm to individuals or to other groups,
other organizations or an international/global situation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Transnational/international
organizations do no harm to individuals, to organizations or to other global
entity’s organizations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I want to make it clear that
ultimately, the individual, as an individual or an employee or executive in an
organization or global entity, such as the United Nations, or an international
corporation, is personally and collectively responsible for the actions as an
individual, and as a representative, and an “actor” within that
organization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Social
responsibilities in a socially sustainable society are inescapable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no hiding for individuals
within a corporation to hide from personal responsibility, as well as corporate
responsibility, to the actions that they take, whether that action is
detrimental to an individual, to an organization, or another international
global organization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
ultimately responsible in social sustainability that the individual be held
accountable and responsible for their actions and decisions, and that it would
repercuss personally to them. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a
socially sustainable society, if an executive used their company for the
advancement of their company or for the detriment of another company, individual
or organization, that executive would be held personally responsible and
accountable for that decision, and that they would lose their position and
financial supports that they had accumulated, as well as a punitive penalty
against the corporation.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is important that socially
detrimental actions by individuals in corporations be seen as ultimately
harmful, not to one person, but to all people of the world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You recall from 20 or 30 years ago that
there was the Lincoln Savings and Loan debacle, and that one individual was
responsible for the course of their corporation and Trustees, to bring great
harm to the financial community of their investors, and as the individuals that
had accounts with that organization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When an individual is in such a position that causes harm to hundred
thousands or even millions of individuals, then the punitive treatment in
response must be exceptionally difficult for them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not specify what that should be,
as that comes within the realm of human decision-making for the social
adjustments of their society.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are all of these encoded in our DNA like
the 3 core values are?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The two sides of
human nature</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I may comment that “human nature,” as
you call it, is expressed in two forms and other sub-forms as well.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is human nature to do good, to be
kind, to be gentle, to be forgiving, to be altruistic and to express those
ennobling qualities and values that a human being is capable of for the benefit
of others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On the other hand, human
nature also expresses as the most difficult, despicable behaviors that can
result even in genocide of hundreds of thousands of individuals—or millions—and
that individuals who support that, or who are of like mind in that human nature,
are despicable in their behaviors, and that they are held accountable and
responsible for that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Human nature
is a decision by the individual how it expresses; the values are innate, but how
they are interpreted can express as positive or negative behavior towards
others.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the punitive actions then are to take
place on our world, with the individuals that are harmed by it, rather than on
the mansion worlds?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a socially sustainable society,
yes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This must be dealt with on the
material mortal level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is
also reconciliation or an adjustment made on the morontial level, either in
detention or in the schools, by those individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that mortals in society
see that harmful behavior is also detrimental to the individual who acts out in
those negative, harmful ways, and that it be such that they would be convinced
never to do that again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We see it
as most unfortunate, very immature and child-ish for your society to allow
individuals who have such egregious behavior, to then return to business as
consultants and advisors, or to like positions within other organizations and
corporations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Treatment of Adolf
Hitler was appropriate; he was sent to the morontial prison world where he could
not re-enact his immoral, illegal behaviors against the welfare of millions of
individuals, and reparations have been made somewhat, to compensate those who
have lost greatly in some form.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is a good example of appropriate treatment for gross, societal
misbehavior.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: red"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you very much, Charles; I
appreciate your comments. </P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Religious and
social conservatism and fundamentalism</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, Charles.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>An audience member writes me that during
times of stress and chaos, people want to circle their wagons, to return to
pure, earlier ways of thinking and acting, but these seem always
restrictive—sometimes violently so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I would like to hear your thoughts on religious and social conservatism
and fundamentalists.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the question?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What do you think of religious and
social conservatism?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have stated the conclusion already;
it is a circling of wagons, a return to old state processes, and means and
methods of reinstilling the fundamental thoughts of that philosophy, or that
creed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a holing-up, as a
badger would back into its place of safety that is conservative, which is
familiar and comfortable to them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>On the other hand, this is not a productive means; it simply puts them
further, deeper into their conceptual and cultural box of thought and
familiarity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a bulwark of
their walls to protect them against that which is outside.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the least productive position
that any individual or group can take.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It does not allow for creative thought; it does not allow for divergent
thought, alternative thought, or parallel thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the uncreative position of
conservatism that condemns them to eventual failure.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we help people let go of the old
ways and values, and embrace the faith that Jesus lived?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>There is no
convincing a person with such conservative thinking</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As we have said numerous times in the
past, there is no convincing those individuals who have such conservative
thinking.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We cannot tinker with
their minds so that they are forced to make other decisions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We can provide them with other options,
which we already have begun to do, to broaden their options to see other
possibilities and opportunities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Individuals oftentimes see those options as threatening to them, and
abhorred and to be rejected.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They
take into consideration the acceptance of their familiar social or creedal
group, which is a protection for them, yet it condemns them to linear thinking
and cause and effect thinking, which is unproductive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There must be other alternative means to
do that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, my friend, it is up to
you to move ahead within the course that you can affect, that you can bring
about changes for those people who do think as you think, who do think in terms
of socially sustainable options.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These options do not threaten creedal thinking; it simply provides a
sustainable alternative to conservative thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not in the process of marketing
or advertising what we do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We use
the process of original thinking within the individual, that spark of insight
that there are other opportunities, other possibilities to the course that they
are living.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Even in terms of
extremely difficult situations, many people would be willing to die for their
creed, no matter how erroneous or despicably errant it may be.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The position we take concerning
this is non-confrontational; it is non-aggressive; it is simply those who want
to follow in the constructive, positive opportune way can do so liberally and
freely.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They come of their own
accord, of their own will, and that is the whole crux of the concern of your
question, is it not?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The subjective
interpretations of the Islamic State on the 3 core values</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve been told that the 3 core values
are operative 24/7 in every individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And the group known as the Islamic State is operating under their
interpretation of the 3 core values.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When I was first introduced to the 3 core values, I felt that they might
be used objectively to provide a level social playing field for every individual
in the world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The Islamic State’s
subjective interpretation of the 3 core values may enhance their group’s quality
of life and growth, but it does not provide equality for every individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When these 3 core values are linked to a
sustainable society and become more widely known, will there be a way of
securing a quality of life, growth and equality for every person on the planet,
rather than multiple groups whose subjective interpretation of these values fit
their own needs?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The short answer is no.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Humans will always interpret these 3
core values in their own way.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
the interpretation of these values that gave such wide variance to groups as the
Nazi regime of Hitlerian Germany.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is the interpretation from people as Pol Pot, and the Ugandan
dictator, Edi Amin, who killed many hundreds of thousands of people.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the interpretation of those people
who have tribal rivalries to eliminate other tribes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This continues on throughout life, and
it can be as simple as one child stealing another child’s sandwich in the
lunchroom in their grade school.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>One person wants to dominate over the other.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Beginning a seed
organization to create sustainable societal structures</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The process of which you speak
of, the eventuality is incredibly slow and tedious; it is a means by which
individuals and organizations, governments and nations learn that social
sustainability leads to further peace and social stability, rather than
aggression, hostilities and wars.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is an extremely slow process, particularly in a world as this, where
aggression is the dominant interpretation for improving ones quality of
life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The only possibility that
social sustainability is to become the dominant culture in the world is through
the beginning of the seed organization that begins to use these principles to
create a positive, constructive, sustainable education and healthcare, family
dynamics and community development, which later develops into regional stability
and national stability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is a seed project by which
the small can overtake the large through the process of time and the earnestness
and truth of those 3 values as basic principles for individual and group social
behavior.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a means by which
the resources of the society can be focused on the positive, rather than
sequestered into war preparations, equipment and material, and training for
soldiers, and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you see in
some of your neighboring European countries that do not even have armies, and
are not involved in other nation’s behavior and stability that they prosper
greatly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difference between
these nations on a per capita basis, and when you take into consideration
healthcare, divorces, educational literate levels, and so on of their citizens,
it is immensely different.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A nation
could be termed as one that is very third world in terms of social
sustainability, but it is only one of many dozens in such condition.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are telling me that there will
always be interpretations of the 3 core values such that they will never be used
to provide a quality of life, growth and equality for all?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Some individuals
will always create their own interpretations</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your hinging words are on “for all,” the
last two words.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, of course
there will be interpretations that lead to the improvement of the quality of
life, growth and equality of individuals, but not “for all.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have read in <I>The Urantia Book</I>
where even on worlds that are in Days of Light and Life, individuals have their
own individual interpretations of what that means, and even though they have
obvious, objective social evidence of the form of an Avonal Son, and through the
Temples of the Father on that world, individuals, nonetheless, choose to have
aberrant behavior, which is contrary to the quality of life, growth and equality
of themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that
individuals begin on your world now, at this time, even in such difficult times
of the cataclysms, that they begin to strive to improve their quality of life
and to grow—not as everyone else, but to far exceed that—because there are so
very few people who are attendant to these values and want to grow.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must remember and think that
individuals such as yourself who strive to improve their quality of life—as they
interpret it—and to grow as they interpret it, are the ones who are exceptions
to your world population.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>We are the “seed”
individuals who will implement the process</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The thought of 10,000 or 1,000
people who are striving consciously to achieve this in accord with how these
have been described to you in the text, are very few.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are all exceptions, yet, you are the
“seed” individuals who we hope will propagate in your lives right thinking to
support a positive quality of life that also takes into account the quality of
life of others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s not just a
philosophy, but a philosophy to be implemented at the individual level, for the
truth, beauty and goodness in its fullest expression in your societies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you do not become living examples of
this, how will your world ever be healed?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It never will be.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, we
have solicited you and others like you, and as you, to be here with us in this
development on your world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We again
say that this is a co-creative process, a co-creative endeavor, and you cannot
do this by yourself, and we as a mandate from Christ Michael will not leave this
world in darkness, but will bring it into light.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To do that, we must do that through
individuals who make a meaningful contribution to God the Supreme, at the
individual level—and the societal level, and the global level.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are important!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have not forgotten you, and we will
continue to invest ourselves in you, so that you want to grow, to improve your
life and improve the lives of others.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Personally, I’m somewhat confused by
this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ll think about it and see
if I can come up with some questions that are phrased appropriately.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The “absence of
universal equality”</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>An audience member writes
me:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are told that the 3 core
values have guided our species through the whole of our existence.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I can see the action of wanting a
quality life, and wanting growth in the actions of our species, but granting
equality between individuals and groups seem to be absent.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This can be seen in the great divide
between the “haves” and the “have nots,” here on Urantia.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Why do we see this absence of universal
equality?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“Absence of universal equality?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please define “universal.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the total universe, or…</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think it’s when you define the 3 moral
imperatives, there is a feeling that the individual will not harm organizations
or society, and that organizations will not harm individuals or society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The society will not harm organizations
or individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That feeling of
“will not harm” also equates somewhat with the equality of individuals having a
basis for a quality of life and the potential for growth.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are people in our society today
who have lost the ability to have a quality of life, basically because they are
living on the ragged edge starvation, and they have no potential for growth, and
certainly they are not equal to… they are not considered the “equal of” some
other people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This presents a
definite problem.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, in a sense of
what is “universal” equality is seen here as every individual has the ability to
have a quality of life and the potential for growth.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I appreciate your thinking, and you have
done a good job of that, of explaining that very thoroughly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It basically comes down to this, my
friend, is that “you”, you yourself as a doctor, can have the same respect for
everyone else as an equal to you—not as a social equal, not as an economic
equal, not as a cultural equal—but as an equal as an individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That you see others as of the same worth
as you hold yourself and this is the key to the word “equality.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not political equality—none of
those measures of equality, but the total, intrinsic value of each individual as
being valuable as they are, to everyone else in the same way, in the same
evaluation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is irregardless of
whether they have an IQ of 85 or 185, that they are still valued and they have
an innate potential that they can express in their lives for their own improved
quality of life, <I>and</I> make a contribution to the quality of life of
others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the universal value
of individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The one who gave
you the measure of that is Christ Michael as Jesus.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have other Avatars on your world as
well, who have expressed the same sense of equality of each individual, no
matter how humble their circumstance, no matter how worthy they are, deserving
of what they have done or not done.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They see the individual as God would see them, as an individual who came
into existence with the same possibilities of growth and to improve their life
as anyone else.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Jesus totally
accepted others as his equal</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The life of Jesus, as you have
read in the fourth part of <I>the Urantia Book</I>, fully explains his life and
how he came to have such a high regard for others, and that he did not have an
embellished sense of valuation for himself in comparison, for he did not
compare.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He accepted.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He did not “tolerate;” he accepted.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He did not have a need to forgive
because they were already forgiven in his mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He totally accepted others as his equal,
as they have the potential to become equal to him.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He valued them for the potential that
they had.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As individuals, how you
develop your potential is a decision you make.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you compare yourself to others and
see yourself as superior, and you are condescending in nature, then you are
truly fully less worthy and deserving of these values being fulfilled in your
life, compared to them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the
essence of equality in these 3 values that makes your world a potentially
socially stable and sustainable world of a global civilization.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a slow, slow process to bring
other people to value others as truly equal to themselves.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is human nature, particularly in
developed societies, to compare one to another, as you have more and more
material as comparisons to measure a person.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is inappropriate; it is quite
immature in nature.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Have I answered your question,
sir?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I believe you have.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Caligastia
tinkered with our DNA to maintain our animal nature</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Another audience member writes
me:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“We’ve been told that
Caligastia messed with our DNA.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Did
he mess with our interpretation of the 3 core values so that we would actively
seek out a quality of life and growth for ourselves, but maintained our animal
suspicion of outsiders, of granting them other than equal status?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He did not change the 3 core values, but
he embellished the animal nature of your species.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m sorry, would you repeat that
please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Caligastia’s laboratories did not change
the 3 core values in your DNA, but the animal nature of your species was
embellished.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The 3 core
values:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Subjective vs.
objective</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you very much. It seemed to me
that because of the necessity of interpreting the 3 core values by each
individual that they would be more subjective than objective.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there an objective way of looking at
the 3 core values so that at some point in our future, they might provide an
objective quality of life, growth and equality for all?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Considering what you have told me, I’m
not sure how to phrase this question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The enculturation
of the 3 core values</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me join you now, then.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As we said, this is a very slow process
of bending the culture of a global civilization to accept these simple values
and principles of social sustainability, yet every culture and every society,
every belief system accepts the Golden Rule of doing unto others as you would
have them do unto you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
enculturated at the family level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So too, will the three values of social sustainability become
enculturated by the family, by the parents of children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a means for instilling those
principles and values that support social sustainability for the individual and
for the family, community and society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is how it is done, and that is why we are so energetic to begin
retraining individuals and young couples and young individuals to accept the 3
core values, and to apply them to their lives as they age, so that they are able
to enculturate these values into their children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Eventually, these individuals
will become members of organizations; they too will become doctors, attorneys
and accountants and CEO’s and financial advisors and so on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It eventually becomes a way of life,
just as there are individuals who are vegan in their eating habits—it is a
choice.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So too, it is a choice to
accumulate great amounts of money when only a smaller amount is necessary for a
life and living.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a personal
choice to “live simply, so that others can simply live,” as you have heard or
read on a bumper sticker.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
not nonsense; it is not idealistic; this is pragmatic social architecture and
culture bending at its very best and very simplest.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Enculturation has been used repeatedly
in harmful regimes, to the benefit of their leaders and the domination of weaker
nations and cultures.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It can be
used just as effectively, and more so, for the benefit of all when it is begun
at the individual level, and enculturated in children, who then become
operational members of society and organizations to form those policies, goals
and objectives and visions and missions for organizations.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The future
disparity of wealth will not be allowed</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You talk about the tremendous
disparity of income and wealth among individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a process by which your society,
as it is currently organized, allows for.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>In future societies it will not be allowed for.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The profits will accrue to an individual
in the form of social benefit and social recognition, as they make contributions
from their organizations, from their corporations, to their employees and
community organizations, which are not connected.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some of your corporations do this
already, where they have a large store in a community and some of the profits
from that local store go to benefit local organizations and individuals, as
there is a needed basis to do so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This will become more and more a part of your future organizations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The idealism you speak of is
untenable and unobtainable at the present time, simply because of the huge
cultural difference that is involved in moving from your primitive culture of
profit for all reasons and without limit, compared to societies in the future,
which do not have those values, do not value extreme individual wealth, but the
shared wealth of others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
transition from where your culture is now, to that eventual more idealized
social existence, is a process of transitions, which will take time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will take creativity of how to
maintain corporations financially without breaking them to become
unprofitable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The process is known,
it has been done and it will be repeated again and again.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not necessarily offer any insights
or ideas at this moment into that process, but we hope to do so in a much more
intimate way in a design team that has that at heart.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>I am wondering about the
subjective nature of the three core values within a design team. If a particular
design team uses their interpretation of the three core values, then their plans
for an organization will not necessarily be the same as another design team
putting together plans for the same organization. We have been told that the
work of a design team once done can be used anywhere in the world. But if the
three core values are open to the interpretation of each design team I cannot
see how that is possible. Can you explain this for me please?</P>
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style="COLOR: windowtext"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The
3 core values are valid, <I>always</I><o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have made a simple topic quite
complicated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The 3 core values are
valid — always!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are the
penultimate validators of what works and what does not work in the social
level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The interpretations are not
valid if they are not supported by those 3 values.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The instrument to use to validate social
topics is the “Schematic for Validating Social Sustainability.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What may come out of one team for one
topic may be different for another team, concerning the same topic.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difference may be that it would be a
more evolved solution to the problem.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Nonetheless, they must be validated.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please remember that these three values
are consistent, always.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As well,
beliefs and subordinate assumptions within beliefs are the interpretations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These, too, must be validated by the 3
core values.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>If, for instance, there is a
group of individuals who value the dominance of men over women, and interpret
these values as “women are less than,” then it is erroneous because these values
are universal to your species, irregardless of gender, irregardless of race,
ethnicity, culture, nationality, community or language.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The interpretations, themselves, must be
validated, as are the expectations and eventually the criteria of
fulfillment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a society that
values dominance of men over women, the end result in the final column is the
criteria for performance is that no women go to school.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you check against the 3 core values,
that conclusion is totally invalidated by all three values, because women are of
equal value as men and have an equal need to approve the quality of their life
through growing, and that they are equal in value to men across the board.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore, beliefs that men are dominant
are erroneous interpretations of the quality of life because those
belief-interpretations are not consistent with these three timeless and
universal values.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>What you will find, and which
will be discovered eventually within specific ethnic, cultural and religious
groups, is that their fundamental beliefs are erroneous; they are not supported
by the 3 core values, as they are interpreted by contemporary societies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This will become a great “ah-ha” to
those groups and those religions as they see this inscrutable situation:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“We know that men are dominant over
women, and of more value than women.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>How could it be that the values do not support that?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, they simply do not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will know that the interpretation
and application of these values to a specific social topic are accurate when one
team validates them similarly as another team validates them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difference of what you speak of has
become political when you see differences between groups.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I understand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Within the design team the three core
values become objective, rather than subjective.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Subjective
interpretations lead to war, prejudice, bias and bigotries</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There has been no prior thought that
these values are objective in nature.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They have always been seen as subjective to the individual, to the
family, to the community, to ethnic groups, cultural groups, and that has led to
wars and prejudice, bias and bigotries.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you are saying is at the design
team level they become objective?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are always objective, at any
level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is the choice of a person
or a family, or a state or nation to interpret them for political reasons, for
economic reasons, and for social reasons.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>That is an interpretation that is not objective, but always
subjective.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I see.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the 3 core values are both subjective
and objective?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, they are always objective;
measurable and objective.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will go
on to say that how one society interprets quality of life, may be quite
different from another.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In your
nation, quality of life for housing may be a house that is, on average, worth
over $250,000, but in another nation, a superior quality of life may be a
domicile that is worth only $25,000—at most!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This does not really matter.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not essential that mortals have
the same type of home; it is how satisfied they are with their home and whether
they think it is of equal value of those who are similar to them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If a person has no education, should
they be denigrated to the alleys of a city to live?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most certainly not!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not equal value of individuals,
and the potential that they hold to make a contribution.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The
over-population problem on individual values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now, I hope you are beginning to
see the ultimately difficult situation that over-population has caused in your
world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It has caused people to be
seen as different, as of less value or more value to society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find in survivalist situations
where two people in a plane that has crashed, one may be an engineer and one may
be a janitor:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are they of value to
each other?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly they
are, because they value each other for the potential that they can contribute to
the survival of both of them, and that one could not survive by themselves, but
with two there is a possibility of survival and even continued existence, and
perhaps even finding their way out of the wilderness.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, it is very similar as almost a
metaphor for your current civilization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You <I>need</I> each other to survive.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have no further questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Ladies?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(None.)</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>CHARLES:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We thank you for your attention today,
and the curiosity of your minds to ask such penetrating questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is through such thoughtfulness that
you will begin to interpret these values and to get to know them, become
familiar with them, and see how they apply to you as individuals, as families
and as societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Further
discussion of this is a valuable means by which we can educate thousands of
individuals to become those “seed beds” of thought and development of social
sustainability, and from that seed bed will come vast fields of sustainable
societies, and eventually a fertile world of sustainable civilization, a world
that will be ready for the Days of Light and Life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for this today, and we wish
you well and look forward to our next meeting.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good day.</P>
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