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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoBodyText><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff
size=5>New Era Conversations #38 – Mental Health; Questions from Readers – Jan.
19, 2015 </FONT></STRONG></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Teacher: <B>Machiventa
Melchizedek</B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The experiential co-creative
relationship<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Predicting the vectors of probability as mortals take
action<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">No small accomplishment by man goes
unnoticed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The celestial view of the mental health of
Urantians<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">What is “normal,” versus “abnormal?”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The Lucifer Rebellion and Adam and Eve have already been
discussed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The separation of “will-self” from “mind-self” in asking
questions<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Jesus is the example of a mentally healthy
individual<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Becoming more spiritually connected to your Thought
Adjuster<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Improvement in mental health is required to enter into Light
and Life<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Being spiritually unbalanced<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">What is needed is a full discussion of mental health
issues<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Postponing the discussion on mental
health<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">A
complex subject of intellectual origami<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Mental health affects everyone in one way or
another<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Questions from readers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">A
personal question concerning bi-polar mental health issues<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">The great necessity to cover the mental health
issue</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Team members present:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxanne Andrews and Michael McCray</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>January 19, 2015</FONT></H1>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Prayer:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><I>Heavenly Father, and all those who
are with us this morning, we welcome you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We thank you for your attendance here today and for your help in the
Correcting Time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are a small
group, but it is hoped that our work in the Father’s behalf is of some
importance to the Correcting Time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We thank you for your help in this also.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Amen</I>.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The
experiential co-creative relationship<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a pleasure to be
with you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wish to expound on a
topic that may interest you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We, as
you, are experiential participants in the program of the Correcting Time, and
the other various programs on other planets that were in quarantine.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As such, we are learning more about the
co-creative relationship.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
not new to the universe at large, but it is particularly new as it is being used
in Nebadon, and particularly on Urantia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This planet has many individuals who are so desperately distant from the
Creator, the First Source and Center of all, and that many are not aware of the
good that abounds around them, that they only see and live in the misery that
they are helping to perpetuate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As a co-creative program, this is
an experiential one for us, one that is so remarkably “risk filled with risk” on
the part of Christ Michael, as he has moved this program along.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may notice that he has not appeared,
or has [not] been present verbally in our sessions, but I wish to convey to you
that he has been here, he is very much aware of what occurs in the Correcting
program on Urantia, and is very intimate with it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But, he is not interfering, is not
actively participating to amend the program that he initiated quite some time
ago.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In doing so, he wishes to
garner the greatest experiential awareness of co-creative relationships and the
potential that lies within them, as potential for the new local universes that
will come into existence eventually.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>As there will be further rebellions, we anticipate—though we do not
encourage that in the least—but on experimental and exceptional planets as
Urantia, that possibility becomes much more prevalent, becomes much more
probable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you couple that with
the sovereign right of self-decisions by mortals on Urantia and all other
planets, you have the higher probability that there will be errant progress on
those planets.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so it is that
Christ Michael is providing a training manual, so to speak, for other new
Creator Sons that will be available from Paradise on the planets/spheres that
Co-creative Sons use for their conferencing.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The libraries of the Grand Universe will
be stocked with this working manual so that others can benefit from it.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now, remarkably, Dear Ones, you,
who are reading this passage or hearing it, are actually participants in this
experiential process.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are not
our “guinea pigs,” but you are the “executives of the project,” so to
speak.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are the ones who form
the future of the Correcting Time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your participation is marked, is referenced in those passages of those
instructional manuals, again within the libraries of all the Local Universes of
all planets in the Grand Universe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your “risk-taking” to participate in a high risk-taking project is noted,
and is duly appreciated by myself, the Triumvirate, and all the celestials and
others who are participating directly and indirectly in the Correcting Time
program of the former quarantined planets.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Remarkably, this is a forethought of Christ Michael, but the process of
experiencing that by you, and fulfilling it by you, is not known.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Predicting the
vectors of probability as mortals take action</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Yes, we are using higher
developed, predictive processes of probability to understand and forecast the
vectors of probability to where they might lead, as you make decisions, and as
groups of you make decisions, and particularly as you act upon them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is why we have given you an
awareness of the vectors of probability so that you can see how <I>you</I>
participate in the experiential development of the Correcting Time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The outcomes of the Correcting Time are
known only in the most general perspectives, that it will be successful, and
that as you make decisions and participate in the Correcting Time, that you are
developing decisions and actions by which we can formulate new vectors of
probability and prepare for those advanced nexus that will join together in ways
that will be fortuitous for you and for us and the Grand Universe.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Yes, this is no small project as
it requires all of the participants, mortal and otherwise, to be on the same
page.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Unfortunately, there are
very, very, very few of you who are on the same page with us, but as you can
see, we are making progress, even with the small numbers at hand of you
participating, either directly with us or in the projection of your
consciousness for Divine Order and Development of the Correcting Time
project.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your human consciousness
has become more and more prominent as it joins in like-manner with thoughts of
consciousness on the similar topics.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When you pray for the Days of Enlightenment, the days of awakening upon
your planet, that assists in the human consciousness as an aggregate of all
those little lights of consciousness that each of you has within you, and this
is deeply, deeply appreciated and we give thanks to you as our co-creative
partners in the fulfillment of the Correcting Time, and particularly as you live
your brief lives here on Urantia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Machiventa; that was very
encouraging.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are very welcome.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now I am ready for your questions, if
you have any.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>No small
accomplishment by man goes unnoticed</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A comment first:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m always surprised that my small steps
and accomplishments and small things that I give are so much appreciated and so
much of value beyond anything that I could possibly know as I go about my day
and go about trying to help in the Correcting Time, my small output of faith and
knowing that it will help.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems
to be magnified tremendously.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no thought, no action that
contributes to our work that goes unnoticed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These are indicators to us and to your
guardians and to your Thought Adjuster of when to chime in to your quiet mind
and give that a boost, and to encourage you to continue your thoughts and your
words of support, and your actions of support.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">The
celestial view of the mental health of Urantians<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, I’m interested in your views
on… how do you view the mental health of Urantians?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In a word, desperate!</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m hoping that you have more than one
word on that, but go ahead.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, we have many words to share
regarding that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have anticipated
this topic for years, and our team and supportive members have worked diligently
on preparing a voluminous reply, and in that, we will let you be the instigator
of the direction it takes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As the
completeness of the work of my associates is such that they are capable of
anticipating most any question that you have prepared.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not over-confident about this;
this is simply a topic that we know well, because it is so closely associated
with your mental-emotional situation, your intellectual situation, your general
thinking, and the software of your mind as being distinct from your identity of
yourself, your will-self and your embodiment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So please begin.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>What is “normal,”
versus “abnormal?”</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Looking at those around me, and the
situations of our leaders and followers, what I find is that there are many
things that I would think were abnormal, except that they happen normally within
our societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I see much of the
thinking of people around me as abnormal, or at least it appears abnormal to me
because it does not correspond to reality, as I see it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, the question is: why is everybody
else so crazy?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or why is it that
everybody we see is?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the
cause of all of this?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And you include yourself in that group,
do you not?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Oh, yes.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Thank you—I want to keep you honest
here.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For one, our discussion about
mental health will be much more productive if we talk about mental health as a
topic, rather than its causes and its origins.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find in my questions, and my
responses that they will be brief, rather than long and expanded.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I want you to ferret out how you want to
proceed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will provide you with
very accurate answers to your questions as your questions deserve and are
worthy, but I will not anticipate what you may ask, or even what you are
thinking, though I am quite aware of that as well.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So, as far as the reasons why,
you have ongoing species mental health problems as a topic we will not
discuss.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please proceed.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>(Long pause.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you understand in any fashion why we
will not discuss “why there are mental health problems on Urantia, with your
species?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because they are so prevalent?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The Lucifer
Rebellion and Adam and Eve have already been discussed</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Because we have discussed that with the
origins and problems of the Rebellion of Caligastia; because of the deficiencies
of Adam and Eve; because of the Lucifer Rebellion—those things have already been
discussed in great detail, and we do not need to walk that path again.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Okay, what path would you like to
walk?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, you are in charge of this question
asking process, Dear Friend.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What
you proposed in your very first question led to a blind alley, a cul-de-sac of
inquiry; that has been answered before.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I am holding you to a high standard—you know that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Take your time and go slowly.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I almost feel you are poking me with a
stick and saying, “Go ahead and ask your next question.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I still do not know what the next
question should be?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The separation of
“will-self” from “mind-self” in asking questions</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then, you are the wrong moderator.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First, My Friend, let me lead you by
expounding upon what I did not want to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>First of all, you must be the specimen under the glass; you, as an
individual—as are any other individuals—to participate in this conversation, are
the best individual to ask the questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You, yourself, must have the capacity to examine your own thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you cannot appreciate the separation
of the will-self from your mind-self, the software of your brain, then you are
not capable of proceeding with meaningful questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I do not mean to say this meanly or
harshly, but simply as a factual statement with anyone who comes to this forum
to ask questions about thinking, about mental health.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Jesus is the
example of a mentally healthy individual</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Each person who is reading this
is also a specimen under the microscope of this question and answer
session.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no one who is
capable of surpassing the wisdom and the mental health of Jesus, who is your
primary example of a mentally healthy individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He began as a child without conscious
awareness of his Sonship as a Creator Son, with the First Source and
Center.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He grew into that
consciousness, and this is the same journey that each of you must make in your
lifetime. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Each of you is limited by
the capacity of your intelligence, by the software of your mind and the state of
its health, though this is easily amended by your spiritual growth and spiritual
enlightenment, and your willingness to have your “spiritual friends” adjust your
software to a higher level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many of
you have already received upgrades to your mind software, which assists you to
think more clearly with much more focus, with much more clear intention.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And, of course, when you do this, you
become in greater oneness with the First Source and Center, your Thought
Adjuster within.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a primary
attribute of your intelligence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Yes, even your software of your mind helps you communicate with your
Thought Adjuster.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the
medium of conversation between your will-self and your Thought Adjuster.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Becoming more
spiritually connected to your Thought Adjuster</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As you ask your question, and as
you read this, you are really using yourself as an example of the mental health
condition that is typical of you and millions of others who are at your level of
mental health development.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
are those who are without mental health problems, but who have not used the
attribute of mind to develop it, to become more enlightened, more spiritually
connected to their Thought Adjuster.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is very sad for us to see, as this is an immense potential that is
not being used.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I am not saying it
is “squandered,” but it is not being used or developed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, personally, you could participate
in this question and answer session very well, but it would require you to be
very transparent to your readers, and this is something that you may not wish to
participate in.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not a
mental health burlesque that we are asking you to participate in because every
vulnerability that you reveal in your self is identical in many others, and even
more developed in some.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And those
who think so arrogantly that they are without mental health problems are so
deluded as to be guiding themselves into eventual spiritual delusion.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The greatest participation you
can give to us is to be willing to have us participate in your life, to have
your Thought Adjuster control your thoughts.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Give—actually give your Thought Adjuster
permission—verbal permission out loud—to adjust your thinking so that your
thoughts are more clear, that you can become a more true expression of God’s
Will.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It takes much courage to do
what you have so innocently stepped into, and it may not be something that you
wish to do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not goading you
to do this or not; it is a decision that you must make.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do know that there are others who are
willing to step into your stead and ask those questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have no opinion about that; we have
no concern.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Improvement in
mental health is required to enter into Light and Life</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We wish you to know that this
topic of mental health on Urantia is just as prominent to us as is the rise of
spirituality on all of Urantia.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
requires the improvement of mental health in all inhabitants of your planet to
enter into the Days of Light and Life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Yes, there are mentally stable people on planets of Light and Life who
choose not to do the Father’s Will; that does not mean that they are mentally
ill; that does not mean that they are insane; it does not mean that they have a
mental health problem. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It simply
means that their ego, their self-identity is such that they do not wish to
participate willingly and transparently and voluntarily to be a vulnerable
participant with their Thought Adjuster, and this too, is sad.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But that is a choice.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They make that choice with full
awareness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Being spiritually
unbalanced</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>On planets of Days of Light and
Life, individuals are fully aware of the association of the spiritual elements
on their planet.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Everyone has met a
higher mind, has met the higher presence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They have met Melchizedeks, and they have met others.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most are able to perceive the presence
of, though they may not actually see them with their eyes or their mind’s eyes,
but they are very aware of the presence and they know the reality that exists
around them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are not
agondonters, yet they can make the decision to be in association with God or
not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This does not indicate that
they are mentally ill.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are
simply spiritually unbalanced if it is a course that they have chosen, and so,
we do not interfere with that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
do not try to sell them into oneness with the universe, oneness with God, the
spiritual ascension adventure to eventually meet and be embraced by the Creator
in Paradise.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They know that
already, so we do not try to sell that to them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They make their decisions, and some
change their minds at the last moments of their physical life, and some do not;
and they pass into nothingness when they die.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is their choice.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you know, the universe is not a
coercive place to live; however, it is a place where full knowledge of the
consequences and the opportunities must be known before there is
responsibility.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Decisions made in
ignorance are not held against you.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>What is needed is
a full discussion of mental health issues</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>So, mental health on Urantia is a
major concern of ours, and as I said, we have anticipated this discussion long
ago; we knew that eventually it would come to the fore, and so we have left it
at that, waiting for you to come forward, to ask those questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I suggest that we adjourn for this
session and that you find some associate who is spiritually enthused,
spiritually connected, and possibly best of all if they were understanding of
the Teaching Mission, the Magisterial Mission and the presence of our presence
here with you, and the opportunity to ask these questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Clinical questions are not so important;
what we want is a full discussion of mental health that the average reader can
understand, something that assists them to grasp the reins of their mind to lead
themselves into personal happiness, personal development, personal association
with the spiritual growth of their life—the things that bring joy into their
life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We will not entertain a
clinical discussion of the pros and cons of various definitions of mental
health; that is not necessary, it is not desirable, and it would not be
understood by the majority of your readers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Furthermore, our definition of
schizophrenia is far different from your own, for example.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I have been very candid with
you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have been a “stern uncle,”
so to speak, who has spoken very clearly to you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I share this with you in the greatest
compassion for your approach to this topic, and how you might have second
thoughts about whether to proceed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We know that eventually we will have a discussion about this with some
moderator, some individual—it will happen, but we want you to be fully prepared
for that when it does occur.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We did
not prepare you in advance for this introduction, or this preface to this
session, as we wanted an opportunity that would provide a forthright and candid
discussion and disclosure of this topic with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We want you now, to make a decision of
how you want to proceed, or not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We
have no judgment or opinion regarding that either way.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We want you to be comfortable in how you
proceed, and I thank you so very much for your time today.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you have further questions, I would
be glad to answer them.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So you are suggesting to me that I
contact my Thought Adjuster and give It permission to ask the questions that
need to be asked?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No, that is not what I said.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I said, “each individual, each reader
who reads these words should take time out individually, in their stillness, to
give permission to their Thought Adjuster to control their thoughts.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This was a suggestion to you personally,
and to every reader who ever will read these words.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>(Long pause.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Did I miss your question, the meaning of
your question?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, I thought there was some direction
to me personally, about this particular subject.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Postponing the
discussion on mental health</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The suggestion I did make is that we
adjourn, and that during the time of adjournment, before the next session—or
whenever you want to reinitiate the topic of mental health on Urantia—that you
get in contact with some individual, some mental health worker who is capable of
assisting you in asking meaningful questions between the mental health issues of
Urantians and their spiritual development.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your adventure into this topic suggests to us that you do not have full
awareness of how to proceed with this topic, and that your confidence—you ask me
“What questions should I ask?”—reveals to me that your confidence is low
concerning this, and that you need time to withdraw and reform your position and
your questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I think my hesitancy here is that I
realize that there is a differential in the way that I view mental health from
my position as a doctor, and through that venue, and also that the way mental
health is viewed in our world, versus the way that you might view mental health
for your position.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I realize that
there is a tremendous difference that may be here, and so I realize that
approaching this from my view, the view of medicine and view of psychiatry and
psychology in our world is not going to be the same as the viewpoint that you
would put forward.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And that is the point of these
discussions, is it not?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is the point of these discussions,
but I don’t have a real window into seeing what your viewpoint of our mental
health is.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Dear Sir, that would be giving it away,
would it not?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Oh, yes.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must take the stand and the position
of other readers who have no awareness either.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must ask those questions from a
position of total ignorance and innocence. </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s why I picked the widest question
that I can ask, “How do you view the mental health of Urantians?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And my answer to quote was,
“Desperate.”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s the one word answer, “Desperate,”
and I can see that and I agree with it so very much.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>A complex subject
of intellectual origami</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have thrown you off center, I know,
and that is good, as it is a position of learning.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a position of uncertainty, and in
uncertainty comes forth the best questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You and I are not in collusion about
this topic, as we have not revealed to you how we feel about those subjects
beforehand.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore, you have a
total horizon of possibilities to ask questions about mental health and its
relationship to the spiritual development of individuals and of whole
societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is very possible that
we could have easily 6 months of discussions about the relationship of mental
health and spirituality, even if we discussed this every two weeks.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find that this is a very
complex piece of intellectual origami; a complex piece of intellectual/spiritual
origami that it takes a long time to reveal each fold carefully without tearing
the subject matter so that it is easily understood, and then when we are done,
you can understand that relationship very clearly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Mental health
affects everyone in one way or another</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We take this topic very
seriously, as we know that the words that will be shared will affect almost
everyone who reads this material, in one way or another.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And realize too, that there is
absolutely no criticism to you personally, or to any other individual, or
criticism to your whole species, whether they are evolved, spiritualized or
ignorant and agnostic or atheist.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is simply a matter of fact discussion of this topic.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is much as you would be a
pathologist:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are presented a
cadaver, a person who died of unknown reasons/causes, and so you are going to
open up this cadaver and examine it carefully.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The instruments that a pathologist uses
are very primitive, as our pathologists can do so without ever intruding
physically into the body.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your
examination of the pathology of Homo sapiens’ mental [status], we will conduct
that in a very similar method and means as your medical pathologists would do
today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We will do it carefully,
piece by piece, with some forethought of hopefully that we know where we are
going.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When we say “we,” that includes
you because it is very important that you ask meaningful questions that take
into consideration others who do have active mental health problems, and those
who have mental health problems that are latent, but not evident.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We hope that you will write up this and
publish this session today, as it is, with some amendments or editing as needed,
as is usual, but this is a topic that your readers must embrace carefully and
with full knowledge that they are actually looking at the mental health
pathology of themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are you
ready to adjourn today?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>Questions from
readers</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, I do have some questions
that were sent in by readers that are not part of the mental health issue.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(<B>Machiventa:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Certainly.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>One of our readers in Arkansas
says, “I am a leader in several community building projects, as well as my
family, a farmer’s market, hometown health, and sober living, and sometimes I am
overwhelmed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I wonder in which
direction I should focus my energies to be more effective in my local area,
which is rural?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The choices are all yours, of course, as
you understand.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We offer no
specific programs to delete out of your life, or those to now include.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do, however, offer the advice for
your lifetime, and for your children and all others, and that is to focus your
energies on where you can be most productive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do not dissipate you energies among
many, being ineffectual in many.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
is much wiser to focus on a topic or subject or project where you can excel,
where you know you have the capability of producing good results.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is important because there are
others who can excel in the programs you no longer participate in.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do not need to be everything to
everybody, or to every program or project, simply pick one or two—three at
most—where you can focus your time and energy.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>If you have small children, or
teenagers that are still home, then you must consider this to be one of your
most important projects, and that surely must not be left wanting for your
attention and your focus, energy and wisdom… or your guidance.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Once those responsibilities are out of
the way, you can participate more fully in the projects that you are
pursuing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not saying that
you must abandon projects that you are involved in when you are raising
children, but your children and your family situation must command at least 50%
of your spare time as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
other 50% spent somewhat on yourself and on your projects.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I hope this helps.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Another reader would like to know if
competition is related to animalism and is not part of Lucifer’s
philosophies?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your question limits me to two options,
which is insufficient to answer your question.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, we are not so much interested in
the origins of competition, but however, how you engage in competition.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You live in the moment now.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The most effective time that you can
live your life is in the moment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Competition diverts much of your attention away from productive
living.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Competition is personal; it
is part of your mind mechanism, as you participate in your world.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is also a part of the race
consciousness that is pervasive around your world and has been for many hundreds
of thousands of years.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Among other
species, beside yourself, competition is innate to your DNA; it is built into
you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It requires an advanced mind
to know when to choose, how to choose and what to choose to compete in and what
not to.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>If you have socked away $3
billion in assets in your life, and you still seek more, then you are no longer
an active member of the human race, as a contributor to the welfare of all that
exists of your brothers and sisters.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If you are in a foot race, and you seek to be #1, then of course, you
must compete with all your might and all your will and the capability of all
your being.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a
non-threatening act of competition, unless your ego gets involved in that you
must be #1 to prove to yourself and to all others that you are the best in the
world in that category.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is as
destructive as any competitive actions in marketing or finance, or in
industry—or in the medical field as well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We do not have a specific answer for your question, as it provides us
with an insufficient means of answering the larger question of human competition
within the individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you are
driven by competition in your mind, and this occupies most of your thinking,
then you are really giving your Thought Adjuster less of your attention and less
of your concern for your afterlife than for your betterment as you see yourself
in comparison with others.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of our readers in Russia sent me
this, this morning:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“For many years
I know about predictions from Russian men of God about persecutions of
Christians in the future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They told
me, ‘Flee by the first train to Russia, otherwise it will be too late.’”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class=MsoNormal>“I would like to learn
what kind of events will lead to the persecutions?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My today’s attention to this prediction
is due to the weekly Charlie Hebdo, the immoral mockery at the feeling of all
believers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I feel that they
launched the pendulum of religious controversies that will sway more and
more.”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the question again, please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“I would like to learn what kind of
events will lead to the persecutions of Christians?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First of all, you seem to be trying to
convince me that there is going to be a persecution taking place.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not believe that this is true, as
there has been ongoing persecution culturally against believers for all
time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The status quo—the dominant
cultural environment of your world does not make spirituality a viable
option.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Overt persecution means
that there are overt individuals who are overt in their beliefs, that they
believe that they know the way, when in fact, most of them do not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Christianity and all belief
systems are a way forward; they invite you to “knock upon the door,” and the
response is, “Enter in!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Learn
more,” for your religion is simply an hors d’oeuvre in the banquet of
spirituality and the invitation from the Father to become one with Him/It.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do yourself a great disservice by
focusing on these events, and by this “Charlie Hebdo,” as this is not only an
inconvenience to your spiritual progress, but an impediment to your relationship
with the Father.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must come into
stillness with the Father within you, become comfortable with that presence and
when you say, “Father/Thought Adjuster, lead me forward into safety that I may
be of greater service to you.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
must trust and know that you <I>will be</I>!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many have been told and given these
directions, but in their fear they took other directions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is fear that is your enemy, not the
persecutors who will persecute the believers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your fear is your greatest impediment to
your faith-growth and development and to your assistance to this
civilization.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m going to skip his second question
because you have already answered it.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>His third question is a very
personal one:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He says his mother,
Anna, passed away Dec. 28 and he would like to know, “What is her current
state?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For you, this personal question is that
she has passed the Resurrection Halls and has begun her journey.</P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>A personal
question concerning bi-polar mental health issues</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have a personal question of my own
that I was planning to ask after our discussion of mental health issues.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have a son-in-law that has recently
been diagnosed as “Bi-polar.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He
refuses to take prescribed medications, so his flips between the manic and
depressive states are very hard on his family, his wife and 3 sons.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have any suggestions that I can
give to my daughter and grandsons to help them cope with this situation?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First of all, I would recommend they
speak with a mental health counselor, one who is fully acquainted with the
social/familial dynamics of a bi-polar mental health issue of an individual
within the family.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important
that they understand the social dynamics in that situation, and as this
individual is the father of these children, the children must grow up quickly in
their discernment of what is appropriate and what is not appropriate.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not enter into a discussion of
what is right or what is wrong, but rather in the process of discerning, to
observe what is going on and to discern the appropriateness of the individual’s
actions, meaning the bi-polar person’s actions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is most unfortunate because
children then begin to have a skewed view of the world, and even worse, they
have a fear that eventually they perhaps may become bi-polar themselves, which
has a great possibility of occurring.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is one of the most difficult of situations for families to engage,
that they are not allowed the decision to become sterile before they beget
children, who have every possibility of becoming a mental health problem to
themselves and to their family and others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The realization is that they are/may have this within them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a decision that the children
must make; this is information that they must be given, as transparently,
without coercion, without obligation, without guilt about how they proceed with
begetting their own children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
is a reality in your world; this is a reality of awareness and decision-making
of the New Era, that mental health is a personal decision of whether you pass
that on to your children, or not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As for this family situation,
first of all seek the counseling I advise, and secondly, they must make a
decision whether to try to assist that individual to contain himself.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You already know that this is nigh on to
impossible, because the person who is experiencing these bi-polar episodes feels
adamantly that they are “right.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When they are manic, they want to enjoy the feeling of being omnipotent,
of being incredibly intelligent and capable, and when they are in the state of
depression, they feel as though no one can help them, that they have no worth at
all, and that they reject assistance to take medication, because they know soon
that they eventually will be in another manic state and enjoy that ecstasy,
which can last for weeks at a time, and take its toll on those who are around
them.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The question you ask is most
difficult, as there are no firm answers within your society, and there are no
well-developed medications which have long-lasting effects, such as if he were
given an injection that would last six months.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an eventuality of your medical
professions and pharmacology, but it is not present now.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If he is unwilling to take his
medication, then he is making victims of everyone and you must realize that in
his arrogance, he makes everyone suffer.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of the problems we have run into
with this is that there are so few trained psychiatrists and psychologists to
contact; they just seem to be so overbooked that it takes months just to get an
appointment.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>That’s all the questions I have,
Machiventa.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I appreciate your help
today.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would like to close then, if there are
no further questions.</P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#0000ff size=3>The great
necessity to cover the mental health issue</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As you see, both of you see, and
understand from the conversations and the questions and answers that have
developed from my opening answer in expounding upon the “one word response” I
gave you, that mental health is a prominent topic that needs much
exploration.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are most welcome
to fumble around with this process, as you do not know the way through it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a way through the forest without
paths, and that you are a path-maker.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>So, you are welcome to ask questions, and when you see that you have
stumbled or fumbled, do not be dismayed, but proceed further.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Learn to—in the process of the Art of
Inquiry—learn how to recover from a fumble.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I give you only one advisement.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>After I stated the word, “desperate,”
your next question could easily have been, “What is it about our species in
mental health that is so desperate in your opinion or your wisdom?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You must have a set of recovery
questions in this moderating process or you will fail.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will fail not for yourself, or for
us, but you will fail for your listeners and your readers.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that you be their mind
and ears, and their mouth, to proceed competently.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This is not a reprimand, it is
not a chastisement, this is simply, “Wake up!”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are easy questions to ask, which
lead forward, but you think you have a PDA (Physicians’ Desk Reference) in front
of you to refer to, and resources that you can go to.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Well, you do not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do not have foreknowledge of where
you are going; you simply must know how the compass in your hand works [the
interview process] as you look at it, and you hear the answers to know how to
proceed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I give you this sternly
because this is such an important question; this is not to be dithered with, or
to be dallied with, or to be ignored and forgotten.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I insist that you come again to this
forum and ask the questions—that may be next week; it may be next year, but it
must be asked.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And during that
time, we suggest that you ask your guardians, your guides—even a personal
Melchizedek who would be welcomed and invited to advise you how to proceed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I think you are seeing in some
way, how your education as a physician has now become an impediment to your own
intellectual and spiritual enlightenment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is standard fare for physicians and for accountants, and for
attorneys, and those who are graced in the fine art of linear thinking.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a dance between yourself and
between us, between not knowing and the other side of almost knowing all.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not have awareness of all that
exists concerning mortals’ mental health on Urantia, but we certainly have
access to higher references and sources that do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We wish you good speed and good luck,
and blessings upon you, as you pursue this endeavor, because now you know it is
personal.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you and good
day.</P>
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