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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#666699 size=5>New Era Conversations
#58 – Terrorism; Self-reliance; Trustworthiness – Nov. 30, 2015</FONT></H1>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Machiventa Melchizedek</B>,
Planetary Prince and Planetary Manager</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Spirit’s dilemma<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Options for change<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Heightened awareness and
receptivity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">The selfish corporate invasion into our
lives<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Terrorist bombings and mass
shootings<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Children are not taught what to think and how to
think<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Terrorism throughout the history of our
species<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Children and aberrant behavior<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Teaching values and
responsibilities<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Social sustainability is a system of
systems<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Self-reliance and the individual<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Extended families and community
participation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Trustworthiness<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">More violence to be expected until we learn to live in
peace<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">People are inherently good<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Migrations into Europe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Indoctrinating children to peace and the 6 core
values<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Intimate relationships have a public and global impact on
others<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Dealing with mental health issues<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Reflectivity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #666699">Stay the course<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Members:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxanne Andrews, Michael McCray, and a
Student</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>November 30, 2015</B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Invocation</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Spirit’s
dilemma</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Perhaps it is hard for
mortals to understand that “spirit,” as you call us, can be stuck on the horns
of a dilemma, but the dilemma is this, which has to do with the honoring of two
factors:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>1) mortal decisions are
sovereign and will not be countermanded or changed, and 2) that our program is
co-creative.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are obligated to
follow the rules of conduct of interaction with mortals who are in co-creative
union with us.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those two conditions
have placed us on the horns of this dilemma, and that is this:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are unable to proceed with our
program developments that are all “waiting in the wings,” so to speak, waiting
for a catalyst, a catalytic decision by several mortals who can start the engine
of this train of development in motion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are not speaking of our audience who read these transcripts, but
rather of mortals around the world who have the capacity, ability, positions,
and authorities to make decisions to move your social, political, and economic
realms forward, or at least to open a discussion.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Options for
change</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>What we have been doing in the
interim, we have definitely not been sitting on our hands doing nothing, but we
can be of great influence to the minds of all involved in these developments,
particularly those individuals who are sitting on those catalytic
decision-making situations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>While
we cannot change the decisions of mortals, we are certainly open to give them
options for the eventual decisions they will make, and make those options
appealing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is just simply good
marketing and persuasion that anyone would use in a similar situation with the
proviso for us that it be in accordance with the highest and greatest good of
the individual, society and be in alignment with the Correcting Time in its
philosophy and its goals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>This sounds like a lot of
conditions, we know, but it is very simple for us to work with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are not able to say that “such and
such” is now happening, or that we have accomplished “this,” or made these
“contacts,” or any of the other aspects.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What we know from the angelic realm from Nebadonia’s teams is that they
have been preparing a broad spectrum of open-minded individuals, people on
Urantia, for receptivity of these programs as they develop.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We feel very confident that once the
motion of these programs takes place, is initiated, that citizens who hear about
these programs—whether they are spiritually inclined or whether they are totally
secular in nature—will be in agreement with them.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Heightened
awareness and receptivity</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Many of you have discussed among
yourselves how you feel that you are anticipating something, you expect
something to happen, or some development to occur, as though you have seen one
obvious development and you are “waiting for the other shoe to drop,” to use
some of your colloquial phrases.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>That is the situation of Nebadonia’s workers who have been instrumental
in effecting the—you do not have a word for it—it is not race consciousness, it
is not any of the above, it is a concept of awareness/consciousness which has
not been shared with you fully.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
is qualitative in nature and resonates with the Spirit of Truth when people ask
or examine a situation for its truth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The Angelic Corps have heightened this awareness and receptivity of
individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>The selfish
corporate invasion into our lives</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You, as societies of democratic
nations, have seen the slow progress of the negative nature of selfishness at
the highest levels of politics, societies and of finance and economics to the
point where there is an egregious difference between the wealthy and the poor,
and that you have seen this slowly occur over the decades from the beginning to
mid-1950’s, to the present time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You have 60 years, approximately, of corporate invasion/intrusion into
the social, political, and economic realms of control and authority.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will soon see the juxtaposition of
that when millions of bright and aware individuals come together in common
thinking about the propositions of will [that] need to be done to thwart
that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>What will delay the process will
be political agencies and individuals who are obligated to those moneyed
positions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Once elections remove
them from office, then your reasonable voters and thinkers and people can begin
to make legislative invasions into the turfs of those closely held, economically
dominated, political processes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This might sound like it is too good to be true, but it will not occur
overnight; the reality is that, yes, it will take years to do this, but the
public in democratic nations will have the leverage to bring these about.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The rapid acceptance of these ideas and
concepts will be important for the swift development to correct some of the
self-destructive legislation that has been passed in numerous nations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Many of you are angry at the
dominance of money in politics for the increased accretion of money and wealth
into a smaller and smaller percentage of the public, along with the destruction
of social programs by those conservative individuals who think that societies
should become smaller and reduce its imprint upon the lives of individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many have forgotten the good that the
public presence does for the whole of society, and that the destruction of these
programs would eventually bring about the swift demise of democratic
nations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This must be changed, as
democracy is the best form of governance, even as flawed as it is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What will be necessary in the coming
years and decades is an awareness of those flaws and corrective legislation to
make your democratic processes more effective and sustainable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>At the current time, the conditions of
your democratic processes are unsustainable, and prone to victimization by those
in positions of authority, control, and power.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>A State of the
World Message</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You may think that this is not a
happy message; it is a state of the world message to you at this time, of the
situation of our relationship with you.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We have come to be very open with you, and some would say that we have
been too revealing and transparent of the realities that you live with.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are already aware of those things
through your global news services.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What has not been confirmed by your social, political and economic
authorities, we have done so for you. </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Terrorist bombings
and mass shootings</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, as you are well aware of,
our world has been experiencing terrorist bombings and mass shootings that seem
to be escalating in frequency, if not in size.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have discussed the mental aberrations
of these terrorists, but what can we do as a society to get that turned around,
other than just our consciousness?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is much that can be done,
particularly in democratic nations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You realize that the bombings are not isolated to solely democratic
nations, but have been afflicted upon other nations as well.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is necessary to change that around
is to begin an enculturation process that begins with children in public schools
to teach them what works and what does not work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will not say, “what is right and what
is wrong,” I will not put a moralistic twist on that but to simply say, “what
works and what does not work.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It
is important that children learn to live their lives in alignment with the
greater good of society, and of course, it is important that the greater good of
society begins to inform its citizens at early ages, what that good is and to
repeat it, and to never stop repeating it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We are not necessarily talking about patriotic slogans, or the chauvinism
that you have seen in past decades and centuries of indoctrinating children and
people to believe in the cause of their nation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We are specifically speaking of
enculturation of children and adults, and particularly during the first 20
years, which are highly flexible and adaptable, malleable to be formed into
socially sustainable attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Children are not
taught what to think and how to think</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is unfortunate that your
educational system has had a “hands off” attitude towards teaching “what to
think and how to think.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems
as though the educational system is bent on moral ignorance, and inclined
towards leaving people to make judgments on their own, without a value system
that supports living in the society that is amenable to good behaviors.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is one of the reasons why the
values of social sustainability are so important; the six values give people
both the spiritual side of living, and the secular side of living in complex
societies for the good of everyone.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The key to your answer is that it is the enculturation of the core values
that support everyone, and that there must be an attitude not of righteousness,
but of good clear thinking and confidence in what you are teaching as a society
to its children, to carry it into the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your last several generations have been
educated in cultural ignorance without a value system to carry them into the
future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is most unfortunate, but
it is a natural development of a “hands off” attitude towards guiding people
into what to think and how to think.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The religious aspect of religion in schools has been so dominant in the
United States as to make any educational program that it values oriented to be a
hands-off situation, but this is to its own eventual demise and it is
lethal.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So it sounds like the terrorism is going
to continue for quite some time then until we can get our educational system
straightened out?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Terrorism
throughout the history of our species</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, you must realize that what you are
seeing in these terrorist acts is not any different than what has occurred for
hundreds of thousands of years in your species.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There have been raids and marauders and
those who pillage, kill, and take children, women, and males as slaves into
their own societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your species
has a long history of these kinds of self-destructive behaviors, and now it is
simply that you have an incredible global information system that can make these
incidents known widely in rapid order, and terrorists now have incredibly
powerful, destructive devices to cause and create mayhem and kill hundreds of
people quite easily.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does anyone else have questions?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Children and
aberrant behavior</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the educational system we have here
(Canada), years ago when they took the strap away from the school and parents
were the ones who wanted to have the “say” in their upbringing of their
children, and teaching them right and wrong, and they said schools had no part
of it, and as far as I am aware, that’s the way it still is today, but the
parents aren’t doing what they are supposed to be doing—at least a lot of them
aren’t.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Could you talk about that,
please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The “strap,” as you say, is a form of
corporal punishment, one that causes physical harm and pain to children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In answer to your question, another
factor of enculturation by education is to teach and train parents how to be
parents, how to discipline children who are recalcitrant, who are obnoxious, who
are difficult, and who are oftentimes quite mean without using corporal
punishment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The answer is not to be
mean in return, but to use non-physical means to help them learn how to
behave.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not a new trend,
but one that began in the 1960’s with the “love movement,” and the “peace
movement.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The outcome of those has
been to create households that are highly tolerant to aberrant behavior, and has
also produced some children who are quite behaviorally aberrant.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What has not occurred is to make the
behavior modification processes and techniques widely known to everyone who will
become a parent.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Your society has been incredibly
tolerant to abnormal, unusual, self-destructive, and socially destructive
behaviors by individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Societies
must become much more <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">intolerant</I> of
such behaviors, particularly as it often develops social predators within your
society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just as you are hearing
the call for greater restrictions of freedoms, rights, and privileges in nations
that now have terrorists living within them in order to curb that violence, so
too you will see that society will eventually begin to tighten the requirements
for personal behavior and instruction for socially acceptable behavior by
parents.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is an eventual
development of social evolution and social maturation as a society, and as a
civilization.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are seeing this
very rapidly in your world now; the necessity of curbing personal liberties is
important to create stable societies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your question goes to the very heart of democracy’s rights, freedoms, and
also responsibilities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a
selfish “me first” orientation to the rights and privileges of freedom and
liberty, but the responsibilities must come into balance with that.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then, the responsibilities in all this
will occur when we start to implement social sustainability and the six core
values, all these responsibilities will come into place?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is correct, and the default is to
parents and the parental home, and the home of origins for enculturating social
behavior.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Educational systems,
schools, are simply a means of teaching children, who become adults, about
living in a complex society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
has been an inclination to make educational systems the default line for
teaching the morality and socially acceptable behaviors, without the means to
discipline the children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
fraught with many difficulties and is a grossly failed system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Parents must be seen as the final
authority for enculturating and holding their children to be responsible, and
holding themselves to be responsible for enculturating their children.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Teaching values
and responsibilities</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"
class=MsoNormal><STRONG> <o:p></o:p></STRONG></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, we need a system<S> </S>in the
school’s system that is not only just going to teach the history of civilization
and everything else that goes with these things, but you also need part of it as
teaching the children to carry on with what their parents have taught them of
the values and responsibilities… it has to be reinforced.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can this be done through the school
system?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it can be done in the school
system.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would include a regimen
of sustainable social conduct.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
would be secular; it would be based on the universal core values of social
sustainability; and it would teach what works and what does not work for
individuals, for families, communities, societies, and civilization.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When this is taught in schools, parents
would pick up that theme and they would enculturate it from the authority of the
family, from the authority of the parents.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This would reinforce what children learn in school.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There must be competency tests for
social conduct; there must be competency tests for children who are sexually
active and capable of reproducing,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>competency tests that relate to their capacity and abilities to parent
the children that they will eventually have.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does this make sense to you?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Social
sustainability is a system of systems</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it does, but now I’m thinking about
not just the school system, I’m thinking about the health systems and these
tests, especially when you talk about sexually productive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You tie this all together, don’t
you?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, of course.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Social sustainability is a system of
systems; it is holistically integrated, there is no separation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What individuals have striven to do is
to separate the teaching of sexual conduct of “what works and what does not
work” to support the stability of society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It has striven to separate that from the educational system.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is, as you know, not working.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The prudish attitude about sex, sexual
relationships, and behaviors is simply a defective and immature reaction to
sensitive personal issues.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However,
the other side of it is that there is a public responsibility for those
behaviors that affects everyone else.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The extra children that are born into the world take an additional
portion of the resources from everyone else.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It does not matter whether those
children live in Utah or Uganda; when children are born, they take additional
portions of resources from everyone else, including the parent’s time from their
work and business.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important
that children be seen as vital and vibrant and necessary to have, but the
responsibilities of bringing them into the world must be well known and
enculturated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Sexual conduct is, of
course, directly related to those responsibilities; you cannot separate sexual
conduct and reproduction from social sustainability or even material
sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is intrinsic in
the very nature of sustainability to teach about sexual responsibilities for
having children.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So the picture I’m getting, and I don’t
know if I am the only one, that social sustainability refers to your education,
your health, political, everything; all this will eventually tie in as one of a
whole thing, right?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, exactly.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Self-reliance and
the individual</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now could we please talk about—if this
is all right—self-reliance and the individual?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is your question, Dear?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The question is about a person becoming
self-reliant.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You do not give me too many hooks to
hang on here, so I will try to develop my own from that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Self-reliance in individuals:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you speak of self-reliance, you
begin to speak about the individual as being valued and valuable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are seeing the individual as a
social asset to their life, to their family of origin, their procreative family,
and to society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Self-reliance is
developed by societies, families, and communities by seeing the individual as
valuable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When an individual has been
raised without regard to their value, they think they are worthless; they think
they have no meaning; they have no purpose in life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Self-reliance begins with an infusion of
confidence into the individual and begins with how they are enculturated.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, we go back to the essence of
teaching sexuality as a secular topic for everyone’s education, because when
there are too many children in a family, then the children receive less time and
are assessed “less value” by their parents, even though the parents may love
them immensely and equally, the parents have less time for each child as more
are born.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This reduces the ability
of parents to enculturate their children and to love them and spend time with
them, which teaches the child that they are highly valuable to the parent, which
they internalize and realize that they value themselves, and that their
self-reliance begins first with their being accepted as a valuable person in the
family and the community.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Self-reliance is also directly
connected to the capacity of parents to teach their children skills, whether
that is how to do the laundry, how to care for their clothes, how to study, how
to play with others, how to work with others—these are all skills that are
learned.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Learning how to work is as
important as learning to play, to work together, to socialize, to how to be
friends, and so on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These skills
develop self-reliance.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you see
an individual who is isolated from society, who has no friends, no associates,
belongs to no groups, and does not meet people for coffee to have conversations,
you realize that this person is exceptional, that they are asocial—it may not be
that they are antisocial, but asocial—they have not learned the skills of
self-reliance to be with others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As
humans are social beings, it is important that they learn how to be social, how
to be with others, because you and we now know in your society that the network
of friends that you have, your associates, is directly connected to your ability
to have a living, and the quality of life that you have.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your statement of inquiry of
self-reliance goes to the very heart of who you are, of who you have become, and
how you got there.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>There are many bright,
intelligent, socially capable children who are raised in asocial situations, who
become wasted in their society because they have no self-respect or ability or
regard for themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a
despicably sad situation for us to see: children who are wasted because of the
lack of good parenting and enculturation.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Extended families
and community participation</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a large community close by
where I live, and there are families of 7–9 children, and from what I
understand, and other people around, they are very sociable; each child seems to
have a sense of self-reliance; the children are brought up to handle just about
anything, and yet they have a lot of children in their families, so it does work
the other way, too, sometimes, doesn’t it?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it can if you have extended family
situations where there are aunts and uncles, grandparents and others who are
associated with the family, who have the time to spend with children and teach
children what works and what does not work.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The parents do not have to be the sole
source of wisdom and guidance and reliance.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In societies that are typical in the
United States, you have families that are isolated, a husband and wife and
children where both of the parents work, providing very little interaction
between the parents and children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is the recipe for social disaster and much unhappiness in years to
come.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This community works together as a
whole, and the families each individually looks after their own children, and
brings them up.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To me, it is a good
example close to social sustainability.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, the old indigenous people had
clans, which were groups of families living together, and through the closeness
of them, the children assimilated the values and ways of living from other
families.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this what you are
speaking of?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was, and I really didn’t want to
mention names, but the group I am referring to—and there are groups all over the
continent—are the Mennonite groups, and I find that they are very happy, and
they teach their children, and they seem very stable.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, and they have a very strong family
system and enculturation of family values, and the boundaries of social behavior
both for what you can do and what you cannot do.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699
size=3>Trustworthiness</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For a long time we have talked about
social sustainability and how to attain it.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’ve been thinking that there is more to
it, as we all know, what seems to be on the surface, and one of the things I
would really appreciate you talking about, please, is about trustworthiness—to
do with trustworthiness towards our brothers and sisters, a world, Christ
Michael—putting all of this into action, because you are placing this in front
of us and it is up to us to do it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Could you please address that side of it?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have used the word
“trustworthiness,” and that is also something that is learned.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When someone says, “I trust you,” what
does that mean?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How were they able
to come to that opinion or that statement of, “I trust you”?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It comes this way:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You cannot trust until you feel
safe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so, in societies that are
moving more and more towards selfishness and “me-ism,” and using various
legitimate and illegitimate means to advance personal agendas, more and more
people begin to feel that they are not safe in society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That means that they do not feel safe
socially, politically, and financially/economically, that they are wary of life
and living among others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When
children are raised in such an environment and see the scheming that goes on to
embellish one’s life at the expense of others, it becomes very difficult for
children to then learn how to trust others, because they know from their own
family situation that their parents were not trustworthy, that their family was
not trustworthy in one means or another, or that there was something going on in
one way or another that they became aware of where there were behaviors of
predation, of taking advantage of others who were naïve or manipulated.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Now, when you transfer this to
the God image, God as being a male, and you see men who have raised you who are
violent, who are liars, who are manipulators, and who are slackers, then you
certainly would not have much trust in God the Father from a child’s
perspective.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is one of the
reasons why there has been a shift among women’s movements [that] have had an
inclination or attitude against male pronouns, male pronouns being used to
describe God and other beings.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They
wish to use a neutral pronoun, or even a feminine pronoun.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The trustworthiness is very much like
self-reliance, in that it is something that is learned early in life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What you are seeing then in around your
world, with all the violence that is occurring, is that children are seeing
violence and manipulation of various types in order to survive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can anticipate in the coming years
that these violent acts of terrorism could become more and more pronounced.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>More violence to
be expected until we learn to live in peace</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You saw recently, where there was
a man who lived in the mountains of Colorado, who came down to a Planned
Parenthood Clinic and killed several people.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He was against abortion.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now, is that not ironic, that a man who
opposes abortion would use a gun to kill others to make his point?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Such illogical, irrational behavior
borders on insanity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Irrational thinking that is unproductive in one area, [but] is acceptable
in another. This is simply aberrational, immoral behavior.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you can see, to tie our conversations
together, this man was isolated, was not social, and began to believe his own
thinking, and to rationalize his means to achieve ends by killing others.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You must ask then, how will
violence become developed in our society?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>You can anticipate that the selfishness of others who have such violent
views will be more and more visible in your society as time goes by.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thus, you must see the necessity of
society taking a confident attitude towards enculturating children in forms of
peace, in the form of what works in society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This must be a drumbeat of rote
learning, if it needs to be such, for children to learn how to live and have
attitudes, beliefs, and values that are in concert with peace, love, humility,
empathy and compassion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You see that self-reliance and
trustworthiness go together to create a holism of beliefs, using the values of
social sustainability.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We hope,
through these long, tedious discussions about social sustainability, that you
are beginning to get the point that everything that humans do is connected, and
that there are original causes for behavior, such as the man who killed those
people in that clinic, and that there are means of changing those behaviors and
changing the thinking and culture of your society through values that are
applicable to everyone, and which are peaceful and helpful and conducive to good
social behavior.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This, of course,
is what you are seeking in the Days of Light and Life—it is learned behavior,
behavior that works, that gives people confidence to know they are doing the
right thing, for the right reasons, for the larger number of people.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Machiventa.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As regarding trustworthiness, I was
thinking also that you have put your trustworthiness in us, as people here on
this planet, and that trustworthiness, I would just like to reiterate, that the
people on this planet should show more trust, have that trustworthiness to
really work with social sustainability.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me ask an instructional
question:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What is the basis of our
trustworthiness in humans?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You believe we are all good.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>People are
inherently good</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Hearty laugh.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We KNOW you are good!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We do not simply believe that you are
good, we KNOW that people are inherently good, and the children brought into the
world are inherently good until the circumstances of their environment and
culture, and how they are treated, teaches them otherwise.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It will begin with developing a good
society, one that is friendly and one that is trustworthy and expresses
trustworthiness, is to begin with raising children in helpful, healthy,
peaceful, loving, sociable environments, with the confidence of knowing what
works and what does not work to support those ends.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Sir, very much.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s all the questions that I
have.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Migrations into
Europe</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, I have a question from one
of our readers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He’s interested in
what’s going on in Europe, and his question begins with noticing that because of
an increase in fertility rate among Muslims, that Europe is expected to have a
Muslim majority by 2050.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He asks,
“If Europe becomes predominantly Islamic, what would be the effect, if any, on
the Magisterial Mission?”</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The questioner, and the origins of that
question, presupposes that the insights of the Correcting Time and the
Magisterial Mission were not aware of these developments in the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These are all actuarial possibilities
that we have known about for a great deal of time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What must occur is to teach and
enculturate all people with the values of social sustainability, to understand
the motivation of individuals as they interpret those values.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you take that short sentence into
your conscious awareness and begin to analyze it, you realize that one, we have
a program to bring all people of earth into an awareness of the brotherhood and
sisterhood of the family of humanity, and that everyone has commonalities as
others do.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important to break
down the barriers of separation between ethnic, religious, political, and racial
groups.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can do that by
demonstrating the irreducible values of social sustainability that are innate to
every person.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Indoctrinating
children to peace and the 6 core values</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We are aware of the growth of
populations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just as the United
States population will have a majority of Hispanics in the United States by
2030, that they will be the dominant ethnic, racial, cultural group.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How will the Magisterial Mission be
affected by the predominance of Muslims in Europe by 2050, has already been
taken into a conscious awareness and planning by our side of the universe, of
the Correcting Time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is our hope
that through mortal acceptance of these values, and the enculturation of
children in the values of peace and good social conduct that the majority of
Muslims being in Europe will have no effect on the social balance and peace of
that geographic area.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Intimate
relationships have a public and global impact on others</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As we spoke moments ago about the
original causes of behavior, it is time for dominant societies that are
peaceful, loving and have compassion and empathy for others, and who want to see
peace and stable relationships in the future, begin to enculturate early on and
consistently the values of peace, the values of improved quality of life, and
providing the means for people to grow into their innate abilities equally as
anyone else would.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All the while,
promoting responsible sexual reproduction of your families and your
species.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important for people
to understand that their intimate relationships have a public and global impact
upon all others.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When this
consideration, awareness, and appreciation are realized, then they must realize
as well that they are also affected by the intimate relationships of all other
people.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this too hard to
understand?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in"
class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Other questions?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, when you talked about
breaking down ethnic barriers, my question is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That more ethnic, interracial marriages
must be a good thing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this
right?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you talk about it a bit,
please?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will leave the answer to the question
as it is, thank you.</P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Dealing with
mental health issues</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, we discussed rehabilitation
in the prison system; what about in the mental health arena?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can all of them be rehabilitated, and if
not, what do we do with the people that are mentally unbalanced?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As you know, mental health is a
gradient, a long gradient between those who are completely unconscious of their
irresponsible aberrant behavior, and those who have fits of rage and other
compulsive behaviors, and those who are fully conscious of their own
thinking.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are those
individuals who are mentally ill, who are not treatable, who never will be
treatable, and in fact, whose Thought Adjuster has already left.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The difficult situation for societies is
knowing when that terminal event of the Thought Adjuster leaving becomes
known.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is very unfortunate, to
anyone other than us, that there is no way to determine the capacity of that
individual to become healed and a productive part of society—or not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As we have said before concerning
the prison systems and criminal behavior, which as you may surmise is a factor
of mental health, and are being raised in their self-reliance, is that how you
treat them has to be decided by your societies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is not… we have no answer for
that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How they are treated may be
that they could be dispatched and their lives terminated, or they can be
warehoused in institutions for the remainder of their life—to the detriment of
that life and to the lives of their caretakers, and to the society that
warehouses them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>There are some mental illnesses
that are so severe that they are untreatable, even in advanced societies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is another reason why there must be
pre-conception DNA testing of partners who are capable of bearing children.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The first echelon of protection for
society against mental aberrations is when there is a well-known chromosome
present that causes such-and such mental disease, or [other] disease, that the
individual male or female who carries that gene would choose not to have
children.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How your society enforces
that is a choice your society must make—it is not our choice.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is first of all, a personal choice,
and later on as resources become more and more expensive, it will become the
choice of societies to make that choice for the individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As you have seen in the past,
knowingly having children with Muscular Dystrophy and other diseases which leave
them incapacitated and unable to care for themselves, must have the care of
several others so they can live, is definitely unsustainable and an untenable
situation, as more children that are born, the more children will become
disabled due to genetic defects.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>These are all related.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
cannot separate the mental aberrations or criminal behaviors from the holism of
social sustainability in developing a socially sustainable society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You continue to ask the “how” question,
“How do we deal with them,” continues to be answered consistently by us that
that is a decision that must be devised by your societies.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our society seems to not want to tackle
that problem.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I do not feel that we really
completed our discussion on mental health, many months ago, but as a group I
think we have had a difficult time trying to find where to go with our
questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There were several
statements made that kind of limited the kind of questions we could ask, like
definitions of mental aberrations and treatments.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you want us to go further with that
topic, or do you feel like it is complete enough?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is much more to be said about it,
but you—meaning the NEC team—is fairly representative of the awareness and
intelligence of your society’s ability to talk generally about mental health
issues.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, if you have come to the
end of your questions then that means that you have come to the end of awareness
of most people to generate more questions concerning mental health, though if
you listen or look into the words I have just given you, the spectrum of
totality of human behavior involves mental illness and mental stability and can
be examined on a continuum.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
trouble is, is that mental health theory, mental health sciences on Urantia are
still very primitive, and that the mental health sciences have been stuck in
modalities of treatment, rather than in understanding origins of causes for the
appearance of mental health problems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is both environmental—meaning that the physical world you live in; it
is environment as far as the social world you live in.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is also caused by factors of
heredity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, in the
simplification, “is it heredity, or is it environment” needs much more
examination by your professionals, which will not become really well developed
for another 20-30 years.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Activities
of the mind now are under intensive investigation, and there are literally
billions upon trillions of bits of data available, but which yet do not make
sense to the analysts or the researchers, because they are either not asking the
right questions or they do not have the means to analyze what they do have on
hand. </P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699
size=3>Reflectivity</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This question is completely off topic
from what we’ve been discussing, but you mentioned in one of our recent
transcripts, maybe the last one, about how wonderful reflectivity is in
communications.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Could you please
explain communication by reflectivity, and what stage in our ascent will we have
the ability to use that wonderful system?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Laughing.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your <I>Urantia Book</I> describes
reflectivity quite well, though in the language it uses is rather circuitous and
ambiguous, but reflectivity operates on its own circuit of instantaneous quantum
level activity that is, as you know, that the electron at a distance from
another electron will behave instantaneously as one that is treated in your
presence.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This should give you a
clue as to the mechanism of reflectivity.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>When you will be able to take advantage of that is actually that it
occurs right now, though you are not the active agent of initiating it; you are
the recipient of the response of reflectivity by others who are in Nebadon and
Orvonton, who use that technique to help manage the affairs of this world and of
the other worlds of Nebadon.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When
you, personally, will be able to use this will be well after your graduation and
acceptance into the Corps of Finality. </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I don’t have any other questions
today.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have any parting
words for us, Machiventa?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#666699 size=3>Stay the
course</FONT></U></H2>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There have been some words of wisdom
spoken by mortals throughout the era of your species, which are memorable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Two of which would be to “Stay the
course;” do not be deflected by circumstances around you, or by the lack of
results, but “be ever faithful and trusting in the goodness of God in your life,
personally,” to know that even though you may have read every transcript that
ever existed, from every TR in the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission and
otherwise, those words truly will have no effect upon you, perhaps in your
lifetime.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Nonetheless, stay the
course in your faith and the goodness of God to be personally involved in the
course and conduct of your life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Your life is a partnership with your Thought Adjuster, God’s plan for
your life, and with your own participation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can change the course of your
history immensely by how you actively live the faith, or not.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Stay the course, my friends!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is what we do in times that do not
produce the overt results that we hoped for.</P>
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align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P>
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