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<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#800080 size=5>New Era Conversations
#59 – Various Topics – Dec. 14, 2015</FONT></H1>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Machiventa Melchizedek</B>,
Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Topics:</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Can empathy and compassion be
overdone?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Question on gay issues to be covered in a future
session<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Collapse of previous civilizations<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Promoting the Correcting Time programs within
churches<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Addiction is not a disease<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Multiple personalities<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Creating a mental health system<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Postponing a question on DNA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Mental, physical and spiritual
health<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Hypnosis<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Energies of disempowerment<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Is spiritual growth possible with dark
energies?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Changing unconscious thinking to conscious
thought<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Closing remarks on bringing peace to
everyone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>TR:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Daniel Raphael</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Team members:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Roxanne Andrews, Michael McCray and a
Student</P>
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3>December 14, 2015</FONT></H2>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Invocation</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Good morning, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek and I am pleased to be here with you.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We are open for questions, if you
have any.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Can empathy and compassion be
overdone?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>On the subject of empathy and
compassion, is there a point at which they can be overdone?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I speak of infants who are born with
terrible birth deformities that require surgery after surgery for years and
still do not have a good quality of life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Or people that keep an injured pet alive even though they have been hurt
very badly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The reason I ask this
question is because of the comment about “dispatching” the severely mentally ill
or criminals seems to be a difficult concept for mortals to handle.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Could you speak to this, please?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I would be glad to, and your
question is an important one.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Empathy and compassion become overdone when it is to serve and assuage
the emotional guilt or emotional anxiety of the individual who is responding to
that difficult situation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That is
the basic answer to your question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The greater substance of our response is that empathy and compassion are
usually personal, and this is a good place to start when you think of a socially
sustainable society, particularly for future generations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Rarely, do mortals in their daily lives
make decisions with the awareness that their decisions will have an impact, or
will directly or indirectly affect future generations.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>It is important that when
societies begin to accept the values of social sustainability that they also
accept the responsibilities of social sustainability.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your citizens will begin to appreciate
that there are decisions that help develop the social evolution of their
society, their communities, their families and individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are decisions which have neither a
positive or negative effect, and that they will also realize that there are
individuals who make decisions that are detrimental to society, particularly
those who are social predators, who cause great injury to individuals, to groups
and to society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One of the major
responsibilities of a society, state or community that has accepted the
responsibilities of moving toward social sustainability is to assist and support
individuals to make contributions to the sustainability of themselves, families
and communities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The other is to
show the way to live in a neutral manor, which has no detrimental effect to
anyone, either positive or negative.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Societies have a very serious responsibility to act in behalf of all the
people, to make moral decisions that would be unethical and immoral if they were
made by an individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Societies, which are usually
represented by their governments, have the responsibility to remove individuals
who are detrimental and who are social predators of that society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The emphasis is on forward movement,
maturity and evolution of societies and communities, and the environment in
which families live.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When families
are under threat of physical harm, financial harm and other acts of predation,
then it halts the growth and maturity of society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>People and societies do not mature when
they live in fear.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is very
evident as you are seeing in your world situation, whether it is in the United
States, or Africa, or in the Middle East—or other places.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>People do not grow, prosper, thrive,
mature, and develop their innate potential when they live in fear.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Society, i.e., has a
responsibility to remove individuals who have a proven record of being
detrimental and harmful to society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I will not go into the categories of harmful predation, but some of them
exist within family structures and within schools and elsewhere.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The response of society may seem
extremely severe, but we, on the other hand, appreciate that a world such as
Urantia is an evolving social structure.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Urantia is a social organism that must take care of itself.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you look at your world in this
regard, then you realize how primitive the world you live in truly is.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not a sad situation or a good
situation; it is simply a situation that needs forethought and conscious
deliberation and the willingness to take social action to protect future
generations of its citizens. </P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Question on gay
issues to be covered in a future session</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I also have three questions sent in by
our readers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The first one says, “I
am very thankful for your support to present my questions to the NEC.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This time we had a little discussion at
our forum, the “Teaching Mission in Russia,” to prepare the questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One reader worried about the gay
movement that is growing very fast in the West and especially its lobbying in
power structures at the legislative level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>He says that the elite are the driving force that spins the flywheel of
the gay movement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His question
is:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What are the consequences for
each individual and civilization as a whole, potentially dangerous for basic
family relations, relations between the sexes, such as the legislative
introductions of many states on Urantia, as juvenile justice and legalization of
the gay movement?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The questioner has surely staged his
questions very well.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would ask
him to break apart that sequence of statements into all the questions that he is
curious about.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This may end up to
be 1, 2 or 3; it could be 9, 10 or 12 questions.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We would be glad to entertain those
questions, and to assist the questioner.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We would ask that he assist us by developing his questions in a way to
help our readers understand the situation he is relating to, and how answering
the questions will lead to greater clarification for everyone.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Collapse of
previous civilizations</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I guess we will have to finish up with
that question at a later date.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Another “reader is interested in
the experience of the previous civilizations in the issue of violation of the
principle of achieving the three core values and evolutionary development,
deviations from which have led to their collapse.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, what can you share about
it?”</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Thank you for your question, first
of all; it was a well thought out question.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In answering this question, it is not
solely the three core values that must be addressed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Heretofore, no nation, no society, no
government administration, dynasty or empire has ever begun its existence with
an intention, an overtly, consciously developed intention, to become sustainable
into the centuries and millennia ahead.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Even the United States form of democracy was not formed with an overt
conscious intention—the intentions were assumed, which is very dangerous.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Strategic intentions that are assumed
and not revealed are the playing field for much havoc later on, and disarray of
progress.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Societies can revisit
their beginnings by reviewing or stating overtly what those intentions would
be.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First, for the United States,
the covert intentions were to become a sovereign, independent state; and
secondly, to establish democratic form of governance.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those two intentions were assumed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They are most easily identifiable
through the history of your nation, for the reasons that they fought the
Revolutionary War and began writing the Constitution.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Without an intention for
sustainability, there is no way to have a vision, a mission, an operating
philosophy, and so on, to guide them towards that goal.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The second major error of all
previous societies and civilization, nations and empires, and so on, is that
they were not learning organizations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They did not have an institutional way of reviewing their failures and
their successes, and discerning the causes of the successes or the
failures.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have recent
scientists in the last 30 years who have been writing about “Type 2, double
loop, learning organizations.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This
is a very important part of the sustainability scheme of your nations, societies
and cities and communities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If
there is no intention for long-term sustainability, and there is no method of
learning from experience, then surely failure will overcome even the most
fortuitous circumstances to cause societal decline and collapse.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is currently the situation of most
evolved, mature democracies in the world today.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You can see in the United States
that its early evolutionary form has matured to its greatest design limits, and
that it is no longer capable of evolving further.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is a need to review and revisit
its origins, and to thoughtfully, conscientiously begin the process of planning
a more evolved form of democracy.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Further, you will find that when this is done by mature democracies that
it will make the path easier for developing emerging democracies to literally
skip many decades to become more mature and evolved in their democratic
processes. </P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Promoting the
Correcting Time programs within churches</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They have one more question:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“At the previous session Machiventa told
us that it is possible to involve (and to be in) existing organizations to
promote the programs of Christ Michael’s Correcting Time.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The Russian Orthodox Church is a
significant institution whose main purpose of their work is all kinds of help
for Christ, by whose name the Church is named.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We can assume that many Church leaders
know about the current efforts of Christ, and perhaps some of them read these
materials.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, what would
you say to those people, the servants of the Lord?” </P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have come upon one of the most
stalwart, strong bastions of conservative religious and spiritual
evolution.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It would be a grave
mistake to begin your work to change such a religious global organization as
that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It begins by individuals; if
you are able to have access to any of the leaders in the various echelons of the
Church, you are welcome to have personal conversations with them concerning the
sustainability and the thriving sustainable existence of the Church by striving
to infuse these new concepts of Christ Michael.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We would advise additionally, or
first of all, that you begin to infuse these values into the decision-making
process of organizations of which you are a member.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How many of the organizations that you
belong to have a conscious intention that has been overtly written and available
to members, to become sustainable into the decades and centuries ahead?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You will find that almost none do.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is an assumption that if and when
organizations continue doing business as they are doing, that they will continue
on indefinitely into the future.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>This is simply folly, and it is a very juvenile perspective of the
survivability of organizations.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Organizations that you belong to, you can have a tremendous influence on
by instilling in them these simple concepts to include in their operation:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>One is the intention of becoming
sustainable; and the other is to become a learning organization by analyzing the
previous experiences, current experiences for successes and failures.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>You have begun to thoroughly
understand the essence of sustainability; while your species is self-sustaining
into the future, societies are not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Societies are dependent upon the operation and sustainability of the
organizations that support that society, and of course, the attitudes and
behaviors of individuals in those organizations and apart from those
organizations in society.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There
must eventually be an attitude of responsible participation to insure that
future generations live as comfortably, or more so, than you do today.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Roxie:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s all the questions I have at the
moment.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Addiction is not a
disease</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, would you please talk to us
about, in our society we use the word “addiction,” and it is related as a
“disease.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It doesn’t give people
any empowerment to help themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Would you talk about using a label like that, or any
labels?<BR><BR><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Yes, I would be glad to; thank you for your question.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First of all, addiction is not a
disease.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a complex of
behaviors that are repetitive and habitual for the individual.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Anger and rage, sex addiction, and so
on, are chosen methods of behaving by some individuals that becomes habituated
and an addictive source of adrenalin, a natural but destructive<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>“high.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are chemicals in your culture
which cause physical dependence, and some establish psychological dependence,
whether they are over-the-counter drugs, or whether they are drugs bought on the
street, or whether it is alcohol, which is easily purchased anywhere in the
world.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These chemicals create an
addiction of dependency in the person’s life.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Addictions that we are most concerned of
are the addictions of choice, whether it is a fetish, whether it is a fear of
walking on cracks on the sidewalk, fear of crowds, and so on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Those are learned behaviors; they truly
are learned by personal self-reinforcement of the thinking of the
individual.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That type of thinking
can be undone by repetitive, correcting thinking practices, and guidance from
coaches to the opposite ends.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some
can be assisted through hypnosis and some through alternative psychological
therapies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the end, it is the
responsibility of the individual to be aware of their behavior and to be
self-observing to realize it is abnormal and counter-productive, and that they
have a personal responsibility as caretaker of their life to do something to
rehabilitate themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>When you heal your life in this
manner, you realize that your higher mind, your conscious will-mind is
responsible for the care of the body and the conscious mind, and what it thinks
and how it thinks.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a
process that will elevate your societies in maturity of your social structures
immensely when it becomes widespread.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>As it is, the number of individuals who are self-observing is very, very
small, and others may notice that they have these predilections of behavior and
thinking, but they have not come to the conscious awareness that they are
responsible to change it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is
another factor of social immaturity on a backward planet.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As you can see from our
discussion today, Christ Michael has surely charted out quite a difficult course
of rehabilitation for your world, and he is also working on the other worlds
that were in quarantine.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are
most fortunate that Christ Michael had his 7<SUP>th</SUP> bestowal here on this
planet as Jesus, and that he has invested heavily in the rehabilitation,
reformation of your world co-creatively with you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a project that will have immense
repercussions for God the Supreme, and for all eras that follow in the Grand
Universe.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is a courageous
project, one that is not without its own problems, but one where there is
progress that is measurable.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Our
experience here will be of great use in the future.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And, yes, we have measured progress on
your world even though your world is having great difficulties and millions of
people are in immense distress.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>How else can we
help?</FONT></U></H3>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you, Machiventa.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So is there anything else we can do to
be helping, besides social sustainability?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For people who have addictions?</P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For our world.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are being the most influential
individual you can be in your situation right now.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are a person of one, who lives in a
rather small community, and you have already had more impact and influence on
your community than you had in the prior ten years.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These small increments of service to
others eventually have a cumulative effect that will change the minds and bend
the culture of your societies.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Multiple
personalities</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have another question and it has to do
with multiple personalities.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is
there such a thing as multiple personalities?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most certainly; it is a very difficult
disorder.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Do you have further
questions you would like to ask concerning this?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, I would like you to, please—if you
would—discuss multiple personalities.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>I believe we have discussed it
before in this forum, and there are notations in prior transcripts about
multiple personality disorder.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Briefly, it is an individual that has been in different circumstances
that cause them to create a new personality to escape their current situations,
even if it is in their own mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Think of it as an alternative to an addiction, where a person does not
want to become addicted to heroin and forget about the world around them, but
simply withdraws within themselves to create a new reality.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Creating a mental
health system</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have another question about our mental
health system.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do we go about
creating a mental health system that is socially sustainable?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Surely, the best way would be to recruit
professionals who have a spiritual inclination.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The great difficulty with changing or
moving the culture of the psychotherapeutic culture is difficult as it is so
intellectually oriented.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your
successors will see in their lifetimes, immense changes in the therapeutic
modalities and theories.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your
psychotherapeutic culture is in its earliest stages now.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There has been an infusion of
spiritually oriented individuals who are making great contributions to
psychotherapeutic theories.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These
will eventually reveal the intimate connection between the higher mind, or God
presence within each individual, and the individual’s ability capacity to bring
peace into their life.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>We wish you could be around long
enough to see the full turn of events, where your culture begins to recognize
that building strong minds and mental health in the character of individuals
begins in childhood.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It begins even
in utero, and even prior to that, that mental stability is often a development
of circumstances.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, most people
are born with a latent capacity for some mental health difficulty, which does
not manifest until some traumatic circumstance is greater than that person’s
mental/emotional capacity can tolerate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It also speaks to the necessity of having peace in the family, where each
has a responsibility to the others and to themselves to assist in the mental
social/emotional/spiritual and physical stability of their environment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All these things have an impact and
impinge upon the mental stability of individuals.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The holistic perspective of mental
health will become to be better known to that culture, yet, there is the
difficulty of infusing it into family dynamics and education, and in fact, into
your educational systems of your culture.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Your question goes to the heart
of mental/emotional/social stability of a whole society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many aspects of mental health are part
of a social culture.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This has not
been thought of before, but it surely is the case.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are beginning to see how damaged and
injured soldiers who return from the trauma of war, come back to live lives as
broken, disheveled and fractured, and that they impact the same kind of
difficulties upon their families of origin, their friendships and their families
that they have produced themselves.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I thank you for your question, and as you can see, there is easily the
capacity to develop 45 questions out of my statement.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><U><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Postponing a question on DNA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Yes, thank you, Machiventa.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That was another one of my questions
about people who have gone to war and participated in war.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How does that affect their DNA?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let us leave that for another
conversation, please.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Mental, physical
and spiritual health</FONT></U></H3>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>All right, then I have another question
and it is to do with:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you
brought mental health, physical health and spiritual health under one component
in social sustainability, would that be a good course to proceed, or should they
be separate?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Laughing.)<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Most definitely!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, there is a holism that must be
emphasized with young couples that plan to have children of their own.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the perfect place to create a
holism of good mental health that begins with the parents—at least in their
understanding—so that they are able to teach their children and raise their
children in this peaceful environment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>We do know, however, that there are individuals who were raised in very
difficult circumstances, but yet became capable of raising their own children
quite admirably, in spite of the difficulties they had in their own
childhood.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>I don’t know, I might be wrong, but
starting out with a socially sustainable system—and I can see combining mental
health and physical health without too many people getting upset—but the
spiritual health I believe should be part of it, but there is going to be a lot
of people who will think that will be a drawback to start with.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You would need to make clear distinction
between institutionalized practices of religion and spirituality that espouses
peace and tranquility.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Surely
individuals would want tranquility and peace in their lives, and in their
families and for others and must become aware of the practices that can provide
those outcomes.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Buddhists and
Taoists and many others live in peace and see the world in peace, and make
decisions that support peace.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They
understand meditation, tranquility, composure and contemplation, and all those
practices that bring about peace.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Peace is brought about by decisions of individuals in their lives.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080
size=3>Hypnosis</FONT></U></H3>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Would you please talk about the
effectiveness of hypnosis in mental illness?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, briefly and superficially.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hypnotism is useful for counteracting
detrimental behaviors.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hypnosis can
create an overlay to mental health issues, but it does not resolve the origins
or causes of those mental health issues.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is not advisable to use hypnotic practices to overlay mental health
trauma, but to address them more directly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>As I said, hypnotic therapy is very useful for adapting detrimental
behaviors to those that are positive and constructive, or even to their whole
elimination.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It has even been
useful with some mild addictions, as you may be aware.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Energies of
disempowerment</FONT></U></H3>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>I’m having a hard time wording this
but I’ll try as best I can, the energies of disempowerment that we
subconsciously connect with, is there a way we can become aware of them [so]
that we do not connect with them?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Please repeat that, more clearly in the
beginning?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Energies of disempowerment that we
subconsciously connect with:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is
there a way we can become aware of them so that we do not connect with
them?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does that make sense?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B> <o:p></o:p></B></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Again, this will be a superficial answer
to a very complex question.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
person who is having difficulties in their life would be advised to make prayers
or open discussions with their Thought Adjuster, their Guardian Angel, and other
spiritual entities of God’s Hierarchy of Light, to assist them in being clear of
any thoughts or thought patterns or energies that might be harmful to them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have found that it is often the case
that individuals may not be aware of any difficulties or detrimental dark
energies about them, so they do not think much of it, but they take a
precautionary foray into this field and request assistance from the seraphim to
assist them to be clear of any harmful energies that may be with them.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They oftentimes become aware of an
improvement in their life, and begin to live consciously in the light, and
without having been fully aware beforehand that they were living in the presence
of darkness or dark energies.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The
individuals who have an open mind, who are not boxed in by certain institutional
limitations of their thinking are most often helped the greatest by these
precautionary actions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this
clear to you, or not?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; tab-stops: .5in" class=MsoFooter><U><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">Is spiritual growth possible with dark
energies?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></U></P>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></B>Yes, it is in a way.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I was thinking in my mind, can a person
just grow spiritually in their life, with these dark energies that they might
have within them, and not be aware of them?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Can they just grow spiritually without
dealing with them?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, most definitely.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How this comes about is to live in the
light; live in peace; to be open and receptive to all good things in your life,
and to discard any limitations in your thinking, whether they are negative
emotions, negative thoughts and energies of hostility, regret, worry and anxiety
in your mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Living in the moment
is surely the way to live in the presence of Christ Michael’s Light in your life
and in your mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can literally
eliminate the darkness by solely living in the light.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Your focus is on doing good; thinking
good; speaking good and living in the moment.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The reason I was thinking this is
because like the empowerment of the mind, this happened to me personally:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I grew up not knowing that people had
back problems. It wasn't until I got married that I became aware of back
problems as my husband had some.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>And that is what I was thinking about.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And so that was a way to avoid back
problems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s been so great with
what you just said, because I guess that you can just go along through life
without accepting any of these things.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>If they don’t exist, they don’t exist for you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does that make sense?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoBodyText><FONT
color=#800080> <o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, it is very similar to some people
who can go to a dentist without receiving any anesthesia for removing a cavity
and drilling in their teeth.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
the same kinds of living in the light that the pain does not exist.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>So, it all boils down to a power of
thought, too, doesn’t it again?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, what you hold in your mind
out-forms in your life.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>Student:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you so much!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have no more questions.</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Changing
unconscious thinking to conscious thought</FONT></U></H3>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B> <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Very good.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have one.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Machiventa, recently, you suggested a
book by George Lakoff, “Don’t Think of an Elephant.”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I found Lakoff’s views on thinking quite
interesting, but I have some questions that I’d like to address to you, if I
may?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>According to Lakoff, about 98%
of thinking happens subconsciously, or unconsciously, and only 2 % in the
conscious mind.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The unconscious
mind has frames, metaphors, narratives, prototypes, stereotypes and assumptions
that set up the world view that the person has that directs their conscious
thinking.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the reason that
we are able to think quite quickly and come to almost instantaneous decisions in
our lives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is very
helpful.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But on the other hand,
these unconscious thoughts that we have aren’t accessible to us consciously, and
they set up a situation where conservatives and progressives have different
worldviews, and the information that a conservative would accept is different
from the information that a progressive would accept, because they have
different worldviews.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To give an
example, a lot of conservatives still don’t believe [in] climate change and
global warming, simply because it doesn’t compute in their worldview.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The question I have is:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there a way of changing people’s
minds, or getting them to open up this unconscious thinking to conscious
thought, so that they can analyze their own unconscious minds and come to better
concepts of truth, fact and reality, rather than just the assumptions and the
information that they have collected throughout their lifetime and hold
unconsciously?</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Let me explain:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have explained this before, but your
question assists us to, as Lakoff would say, “reframe your conceptual constructs
in a way that is understandable for those who hold such strict constructs in
their mind.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In brief, the
circumstances of global warming, and the climatologic effects are having a
traumatic effect on the thinking of many people.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This will be exacerbated immensely by
tectonic activity and volcanism as well in your world when they do occur.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The work of the progressives, and those
who think outside the box of the structured thinking, the question that they
will ask in contemporary language is, “How is this working for you?”<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is important that the question be
asked or raised.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>The people that have highly
structured, unconscious thinking processes with all those frames in their mind,
as you mentioned, it never occurs to them to question that.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you as a person, a friend of a
conservative person that asks them, “How is this working for you?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is this working?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is your thinking working for you?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is it producing happiness?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is it producing solutions?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or are you just simply making the same
mistakes and going through the same habits as a hamster in a hamster cage.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You have a responsibility to assist
these staid and stolid and crystallized psyches into awakening by asking them
questions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>As the circumstances of physical
life on your world become egregiously difficult, the questions become more and
more pointed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Today, the physical
cataclysms are foremost in most people’s minds, but most of you have failed to
realize, or become aware of the social cataclysms that are occurring around you
now.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The cataclysm that we
mentioned earlier of the immigrants from the Middle East and Africa, who are now
emigrating from their countries to European countries, is a cataclysm of immense
proportions, and the impact of their presence has not been felt, and will be
felt in approximately 2-3 years.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>By
the time 2018 arrives, Europe will be in immense flux and difficulty at that
time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In situations as that it is
time to ask what is necessary to help people who are “stuck in their thinking”
to look for larger answers in that situation.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For example, what accompanies a tsunami
that washes into the Los Angeles Basin?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Asking them questions that
challenge their way of thinking is a beginning to the development of more
open-minded individuals.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, as a
person who can think “outside the box” have a responsibility to assist them to
do that.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Ask those questions in a kindly
manner, not sarcastically or meanly, but simply a sincere question as you would
assist someone who has sprained their ankle, and you say, “Well, do this and do
this and you can walk more easily.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>They take that advice and assist themselves.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>By asking these questions kindly to
awaken their consciousness of their responsibilities to live competently and
carefully in their life, you would come to be of great assistance to everyone
concerned.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is the slow process
of bending cultures of the conservative portions of societies, whether it is
political, economic, or social.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
have the responsibility to ask these questions to open their minds to greater
possibilities, and this, in fact, was the work that Jesus did while he was here
on your world.</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is it possible for an individual to
consciously, through your own critical thinking and asking questions and using
discernment and reflective thinking, is it possible for a person to actually see
it in their own subconscious, or their own unconscious values, and in effect,
reach in and change some of those things that go on in there, and change those
assumptions and preconceived ideas?</P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fundamentally, yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You are talking about a very highly
advanced mind that is able to engage in critical thinking and discernment at
that level.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We would object to your
description of “reaching in” or “looking in” to their mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That might portray a situation that
would be beyond the credulity of other people who don’t know what you are
talking about.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You know what you
mean, but yes, the discerning mind, the self-observing mind can “see” what is
productive in their thinking, and what is not productive.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They might not be able to analyze and
put a diagram on a blackboard or whiteboard of what is occurring in their mind,
but they can understand how their thinking is working for them, and how it is
not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you are tormented by your
mind going off on its own bent about being angry with someone, or being
resentful, or regretting something, or worrying about the future, this is your
conscious mind going awry.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is
the responsibility of your will-mind to come to a position of intolerance of
such thinking, and counsel your conscious-mind to become more mature.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>How you amend the detrimental
thinking of your conscious-mind, it is a process to be in the moment to think
positively, and to rid yourself of such negative thinking patterns.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You can also, as it has been advised to
you in <I>The Urantia Book</I>, substitute your mind for the mind of Jesus, the
mind of Christ, the mind of Christ Michael.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You, of course, do not have the capacity
of consciousness to engulf the immensity of that kind of mind, but the pattern
can be replicated in your mortal mind to do so. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Being open and requesting of your angels
and your Thought Adjuster is an immense start to amending your detrimental
thinking.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your
question.</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MMc:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thank you for your answer.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Are there any more questions from the
group?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(None.)</P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Do you have any closing
statements for us, Machiventa?</P>
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>Closing remarks on
bringing peace to everyone</FONT></U></H3>
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class=MsoFooter> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><B>MACHIVENTA:</B><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Yes, certainly.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We have shown you and discussed the
individual who is self- observing of their thinking and their behaviors, habits
and their patterns, and that a self-observing individual can amend their lives
tremendously to move towards peaceful thinking, and so on.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This same kind of consciousness is also
capable within organizations and your culture.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is simply a matter of stating, “We
need to be conscious of what is working in our society and what is not, and we
must take steps to remove those habits and patterns which cause us great
difficulty, and embellish and enhance and support those habits and patterns and
ways of thinking and living that bring peace to everyone.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In other words, you would become
self-observing and you would become a learning person [or] an organization to
bring about peace.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It begins with
the willingness to overcome stubborn penchants for obstinacy and
stubbornness.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>These are great
impediments to the maturing evolution of a personality and of a society.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The alternatives are very severe for
failure to do so.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Know that we are
here with you, and you are ably assisted by many spiritual beings that are eager
to help you when you invite them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Thank you and good day.</P>
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align=center>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</P>
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