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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,176,80)">New Era Transition #34 – Race; #MeToo;
Moral behavior; Alternative to Jails – Feb. 12, 2018<span></span></span></b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Machiventa
Melchizedek, Planetary Manager<span></span></b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Your
Christian heritage<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Willing
to do God’s Will<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Co-creating
with Christ Michael and the Celestials<span></span></span></p>
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in quotations<span></span></span></p>
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jubilees<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Race
relations and the 7 core values<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Being
less than human<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Cleansing
negative thinking of others<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Conflict
between moral conscience and personal thoughts<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Preparation
for the changes to come<span></span></span></p>
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7 values and current movements in society<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The
age of materiality on a global level <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Rise
in human consciousness<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Using
shame as a deterrent <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The
alternative to jails<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">What
is needed is a moral evaluation of behavior<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Society’s
moral responsibility to remove predators from society<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The
immaturity of our societies<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Talking
about capital punishment with others<span></span></span></p>
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the removal process<span></span></span></p>
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rights<span></span></span></p>
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statements<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">TR:<span> </span>Daniel
Raphael, PhD</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Team members present:<span>
</span>Roxanne Andrews, Liz Cratty, Jeff Cutler, Doug Dodge, Stéphane Labonte</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>February 12, 2018<span></span></b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek;
it is good to be with you again.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">For those of you who have the Planetary Management
macro-perspective of your world and our work, you have probably noticed in the
course of our 2-week meetings that we have been using what you might call,
“filler material” to fill-in the blank spaces as we wait for the development of
the events that will bring us into our co-creative implementation.<span> </span>This fill-in material is not light weight
stuff, as you know; it is a comfortable place to be to learn more about
yourselves as spiritual beings in growth.<span>
</span>And so today I will borrow another lesson from Rayson’s notebook and add
some material of my own.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Your Christian heritage<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Most of you have had experience in one way or another
with the Christian Church in its various belief systems.<span> </span>You have been given the commandments to love
one another, to live without sin and forethought of sin, and to be in oneness
with the Father.<span> </span>This is the beginning
of moving into an attitude and belief system that is in alignment with the flow
of the universe and the Will of the Father.<span>
</span>Along the way, some of you have been taught to pray for doing God’s
Will, and many of you have learned what this is in its various forms, sometimes
very mistakenly by church organizations.<span>
</span>We have told you that simply doing God’s Will is to ask and pray for
right and perfect developments to come into your life as opportunities that
lead you into the course and fulfillment of your life plan and your life
mission.<span> </span>The third one is to do exactly
that, to pray for those developments that come into your life that lead you
into your greatness, into the fulfillment of your life plan.<span> </span>One of the statements that we make [in] these
prayers and moving into this elevated state of your spiritual being and of
growth is that the harmful, hurtful, and the painful incidents along the way
are not caused by the Father or by us, and that there has never been an
intention to bring you pain and suffering.<span>
</span>It is simply that this is one of the aspects of living a mortal life as
a material being on a material planet.<span>
</span>As you grow into your spiritual elevation and development, you will see
less and less of these painful incidents, and when they do come, you will be
able to interpret them accurately for what they really are.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Willing to do God’s Will<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The fourth phase is to work in concert with us, to will
to do God’s Will in your life, and in working with us.<span> </span>This is a most difficult transition or plane
of beingness in your spirituality, for most of you it is unknown as to what
that is.<span> </span>This is where your meditation
and your inner conversations with your Thought Adjuster become paramount, and
you ask for your Thought Adjuster to assist you in these revelations.</p>
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Michael and the Celestials<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The fifth stage of all this is to then become a
co-creative partner in the Correcting Time with Christ Michael and with us.<span> </span>This is where you consciously become aware of
your participation and the contribution you can make.<span> </span>For most of you who do not hear the inner
voice, this may be most difficult, but yet you proceed in faith and you
continue to pray, meditate, contemplate, reflect, and discern your thoughts in
these conversations that you have.<span> </span>Even
if you do not hear those conversations you have the capacity to be in that
oneness with spirit, and surely that does make a very large impact on your
thinking in your mind and your own development.<span>
</span>These five stages do not represent that they are a plan of growth for
you, and as you have seen through the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission,
many of you are listeners and readers, and there are a few who have become
highly active in our co-creative work, where you become conscious of yourself,
willing to participate with us to improve the conditions of your world for this
generation and for all future generations.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As you agondonters know so well that this is an almost
intolerable situation where you love God and you know that God loves you, that
Christ Michael and your Thought Adjuster have plans for you and need for you to
perform and work out your life growth in a positive, co-creative and
contributing way to the advancement of your world.<span> </span>This is where your faith comes into play; it
is more than just <i>hope</i>; it is more
than <i>faith,</i> <i>belief,</i> and <i>trust</i>, it is “<i>KNOWING</i>.”<span> </span>When you come to this stage of knowing that
you are one with God and God is one with you through your Thought Adjuster,
then you know that you are on track, whether you see it or not.<span> </span>You have a peace within you that passes all
understanding.<span> </span>You accept or tolerate
the difficulties in your life, but you understand them more thoroughly and you
realize that they are not personal—and they are not tests—they are simply part
of how you live your life.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">This is the short version of the lesson today; it is
something for you to contemplate on, to think about and to then exercise your
will as you think it needs to be exercised to bring what you need into your
life to participate, or not.<span> </span>It is
always a decision to do God’s Will or not, and oftentimes when you are in faith
as agondonters, you do not see what that is, yet you have faith knowing that
you are being guided, and that is essential to our relationship.</p>
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presentations in the past, or other questions unrelated to these issues, you
are most welcome to bring them forward now.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Machiventa, this is Jeff.<span> </span>(<b>Machiventa:</b><span> </span>Good morning.)<span> </span>Good morning, Sir.<span> </span>If Liz and I were to quote your words in the
material that we are developing, or on the 7 core web site that we are
developing, how do you suggest we give attribution to your words?<span> </span>Should we leave it anonymous?<span> </span>Can we use your given name—I don’t know much
about Melchizedeks, I don’t know how they get their names, but it is fair to
say that “Machiventa” is a given name?<span>
</span>Is that the correct…<span> </span>(<b>Machiventa:</b><span> </span>Yes.)<span>
</span>So could we just use your quote and say, “Machiventa says…”?<span> </span>Is that acceptable?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I would refrain from doing so, as there is a
mortal who goes by the name of “Machiventa Melchizedek,” as he is the “armorer
of light’ and when he speaks about the armorer, he means weapons, and the
ambiguous nature of his personal mission in this lifetime is cause for me to
have concern of you publishing my name as Machiventa Melchizedek.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I wasn’t planning to use “Melchizedek,” but
if it’s okay, we will just leave the attribution off.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Please and thank you.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I have one more question about that:<span> </span>Long ago in some agrarian societies, I guess
particularly in the Mesopotamia area, debt jubilees were employed as a
sustainability mechanism—some were 75 years, and some were the beginning of a
new reign.<span> </span>Is some form of that process
compatible with the 7 core values, that validation model?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, it is.<span>
</span>However there are many “howevers” involved in giving that a positive
nod.<span> </span>Continue if you wish.</p>
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core values<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>My last question today is, “Did the Lucifer
Rebellion’s interference with our DNA bring about the discrimination of people
with different skin color?<span> </span>And if not,
can the 7 core value model help to ameliorate this human trait?”<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes to both questions.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Can you expound a little further on the
second “yes?”</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Most certainly. (Chuckling.)<span> </span>Restate that question again, please.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Did the Lucifer Rebellion’s interference
bring about the discrimination of people by different skin color and if not,
can the 7 core value model help to ameliorate this human trait?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I will address the second part of your
question.<span> </span>Most certainly, the 7 values
are most useful for doing that.<span> </span>You
would need to use the social sustainability design and validation schematic to
assist you in that process.<span> </span>It is a
methodology that assists individuals to examine the values, the beliefs, and
under beliefs are assumptions and the expectations and the criteria for
fulfillment of what fulfills the expectations.<span>
</span>Then all of those aspects in those columns are validated by the criteria
of the 7 values in the first column to the left.<span> </span>When you do that, you will find and you will
see how discrimination is not socially sustainable.<span> </span>It is an attitude, a mindset of bias and
inequality, and that it shows a lack of empathy and compassion and “love of
humanity,” for the totality of all races and ethnicities of people.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">When people hold ideas of negative opinions, bias,
prejudice and bigotry, they are saying in effect that they are not fully
human.<span> </span>To be fully human as you were
created by the Life Carriers, according to the designs that were approved for
those designs, that you are children of God, and that you as humans carry the
essence of your humanity in your genes that give you the capacity to grow into
your spirithood along the whole course of your spiritual career.<span> </span>These 7 values are used on many other planets
where sentient life is making will-decisions, moral, ethical, personal, social
will-decisions concerning how the individual views and interacts with
others.<span> </span>These values are universal to
your species and universal to similar species on other planets, whether they
are similar to your species or not.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">There is a necessity of a sense of equality that you are
“all in this” universal, spiritual ascendant career together, and that there is
no separation.<span> </span>Ideas, thoughts, beliefs,
attitudes and behaviors that espouse separation are not in agreement with who
you truly are as humans, which means that on a moral level, you are less than
human and that you have decided to be immoral in the way you live.<span> </span>I make that particular comment because this
will be the adjudicating factor for deciding who is moral and who is not in a
world that is entering into social sustainability and whose societies have made
the decision to use these 7 values to do so.<span>
</span>Those who cause behavior or words that incite separation will be set
aside, they will be excluded, they will be exiled from the main group.<span> </span>If you want social stability, then you must
get rid of the beliefs and assumptions—particularly the assumptions and
associated expectations—that maintain separation between you and all others,
between your race and other races, other ethnic groups and your own, for
instance, and between the genders.<span> </span>These
attitudes are endemic on in almost all societies of Urantia.<span> </span>They are evidence of a primitive planet when
you see widespread bigotry, prejudice, bias and negative opinions against
genders, differences of genders and races, and so on.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>I have a question, Machiventa, about this
tendency to be less than human, as it relates to the Planetary Supreme.<span> </span>So, all of our thoughts contribute to the
Supreme, to the Gaia of this world, and this remains on the planet beyond our
stay here, and some of those negative influences apparently have to be
cleared.<span> </span>Can you expand on that and how
this influences our day-to-day tendencies to be less than human?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>One moment.<span>
</span>I will give you a partial answer.<span>
</span>As we operate in the positive and we teach in the positive and in the
constructive, the answer is this:<span> </span>That
you make huge contributions to Gaia, to the Planetary Supreme when you make
decisions and take actions that support the fullness of your humanness, which
is the mirror of your ascending soul.<span>
</span>You have much to give to this world.<span>
</span>We do not focus on the negative, or the negative influence on you.<span> </span>Doing so diverts and deflects the personal
responsibility for one’s own behavior and their own thinking.<span> </span>We are not stern parents, but we certainly
are careful teachers to teach you to monitor yourself and make contributions to
yourself, to the planet, and to your family and to your neighbors.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>Okay, then how about the responsibility for
cleansing the negative thinking of others?<span>
</span>Do we have the responsibility while we are here on Urantia to partake in
this cleansing?</p>
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thinking of others<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>There is much harmful thinking that can emanate
from that position.<span> </span>We encourage you, we
teach you, we mentor you, and counsel you to tend to your own garden and tend
to your own thinking.<span> </span>For a person to
take the position that “I am going to help cleanse the world of this
negativity” can take on an arrogant and condescending perspective, which is
very infantile and immature.<span> </span>This is the
difficulty of self-assigned missions of righteousness.<span> </span>One must be very careful to do that and we
leave that to angels, rather than mortals.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Conflict between moral
conscience and personal thoughts<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>I have a personal question.<span> </span>I’ve been reading in the <i>Urantia Book</i> about Jesus’ discourse on the soul, and I discovered
that I am having a conflict between my moral conscience and being very critical
of how my government is being run, the lies, the subterfuge, the pandering to
the large corporations, while ignoring the true needs of the people.<span> </span>This doesn’t seem to be helping my soul
growth because of my negativity.<span> </span>Can you
help me with this?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Most certainly.<span> </span>Again, you are most responsible for your own
thinking and for your words and your behavior.<span>
</span>You have total discretion to monitor and control and guide your own
thinking through your will-self, your will-mind. <span> </span>You can guide your immature mind to “mind its
own business.”<span> </span>You then can nurture the
soul growth that you are seeking.<span> </span>On the
other hand, if you have the discretion to affect national outcomes and the
capacity to change the behavior of those who are in power, and do not do so,
then you are morally bereft and you should be most concerned about your
situation.<span> </span>However, as we understand
your personal political situation, you have no capacity or ability to make
those decisions; therefore your morality is not impaired.<span> </span>It is simply your erroneous conscious mind
thinking about its own thinking and going around in circles chasing its tail
that is bothering you so much.<span> </span>You need
to talk with your Thought Adjuster and your Guardian to monitor and to curtail
the activity of your immature part of your mind.<span> </span>That is the necessary aspect of your social,
emotional, and personality development.<span>
</span>You have a chore to do in this lifetime and that is to monitor your
thinking and to not follow its negative lead.<span>
</span>You, as a will creature who know the 7 values and you know your
humanness, realize that being concerned about the immorality of your government
is not something that you can change by yourself.<span> </span>It is one aspect that is your challenge to
live with and to grow through.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>Thank you very much!<span> </span>I appreciate that.</p>
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changes to come<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Following up on Roxie’s question, you made
the comment about a month ago that we would hardly recognize the world by the
end of the year.<span> </span>Instead of gnashing our
teeth, so to speak, about what we see in the leadership of not only our
country, but Europe and Asia, is there something more positive that we should
be actively doing for ourselves and our group and our personal missions to get
prepared for changes that you say are unstoppable?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>One moment.<span>
</span>I am chuckling because this has been the tenant of all of our discussions
for the last many years that is all about the positive.<span> </span>The detrimental cataclysms that we give you
are the things that you are striving to avoid.<span>
</span>We have given you much direction and guidance for your personal lives,
your family and your community as to how you can move forward positively to
engage a future that will be much changed.<span>
</span>You should not be in fear of what is to come by year’s end, but you
should be in fear of what you have not done to prepare.<span> </span>Your question is appropriate as it is perhaps
asked by many people.<span> </span>It is a time to
now to set your house in order to make right that which you have need to
do.<span> </span>And to refer back to your earlier
question about the debt forgiveness jubilee and knowing what is to come, it is
not a time to go out and buy another house, 3 cars and a yacht and a vacation
and be deeply indebted, and then hopefully this debt forgiveness will come
along and wipe away all of your debts.<span>
</span>That is surely inviting trouble that you do not need into your life, and
that is an incredibly immature way to proceed.<span>
</span>Our statements are not meant as a warning, but an advisement that it is
now time to get your house in order and to right the wrongs that you may have
caused and to be in right alignment with yourself. . .</p>
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that one.]</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Was there more to your question, Jeff?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>No, I think you answered it very specifically.</p>
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movements in society<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Along the same line, could we use some
of the day-to-day events that we see today and put them in light of the 7
values, for instance the #MeToo movement that we are seeing today? There
seems to be a cleansing going on and that is definitely aligned with the 7 core
values, whether we look at each one of them and apply them to current events,
such as this one, or the Arab Spring of years ago and the 1% Movement, and
other similar event? I would suggest to apply the 7 core values to
current event so we can train our minds to get ready. Can you elaborate
on this?</span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, and I say “yes” again!<span> </span>You have hit upon the major tenant of our
work now, and the work of Nebadonia and her many Corps of Angels.<span> </span>What you are seeing is the outworking of the
influence to raise the consciousness of your world.<span> </span>You are seeing it through the 1% Movement.<span> </span>The #MeToo movement is particularly important
to your world and to your national societies at this time because the maturity
of a planet is measured in its capacity to tolerate differences, even at the
most elemental level, which is at the gender level.<span> </span>It is important to use these 7 values to
weigh the rightness of the #MeToo movement as an example.<span> </span>What has motivated these women to come
forward is the violation of their equality, the violation of who they are, and
the egregious demonstration of the arrogance of men to hold differences against
women and see them as objects to be used as they wish.<span> </span>This is one of the most intolerable aspects
that we see on your planet and it is pandemic throughout all of your
cultures.<span> </span>It is more so in many
cultures, but it is obvious in this culture and that of Western civilization. <span> </span>Particularly in democracies, the abuse of
women has been hidden, has been cloaked by power and control of those who have
been abused.<span> </span>This no longer is tolerable
and we—the Angelic Corps, the Melchizedeks and many others—have worked to a
high degree to bring this present.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Now, if you were looking at the reasons why women have
started this movement, using these 7 core values, you would see that when one
value is violated that they all are violated.<span>
</span>For instance, these violations decrease the <b><i><span style="font-size:13pt">quality of life</span></i></b><span style="font-size:13pt"> </span>of the individual,
both intra-personally and inter-personally, that they have been abused and they
have been denigrated either publically or in their own self-knowledge that they
have been deemed to be less than nothing, or have no worth or value to be
abused this way.<span> </span>This goes to the heart
and core of a person’s capacity to <b><i><span style="font-size:13pt">grow</span></i></b> into their innate capacity that they brought with
them at birth.<span> </span>When an individual sees
how they have been abused, it stultifies them and limits their capacity to grow
into their innate capabilities and potential.<span>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">In its most egregious perspective is that it is a
behavior of vast inequality, that the person is treated as a slave was treated
many centuries ago.<span> </span>And out of <b><i><span style="font-size:13pt">equality</span></i></b>, you
see that the individual who does the abusing has absolutely no empathy for the
victim, and that they have no compassion for the individual at all, and that
what the predator is saying is that they have no love of humanity, other than
for themselves as a predator and user and abuser of women.<span> </span>Ultimately, this challenges life, that the
life of the victim is threatened in all regards and all aspects of the 7 values,
that life has become almost meaningless and some have committed suicide.<span> </span>When this develops to this point you are
seeing the grossest inhumanity to your fellow brothers and sisters and it is
intolerable—should be intolerable to you and to everyone else, male or
female.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">That is an example that is easily replicated for most
other crimes, most all other forms of abuse.<span>
</span>It can be quite subtle socially when you hear someone in a group of
people speak sarcastically about another individual who is in that group, and
they are very sincere about sarcasm.<span>
</span>Sarcasm is the lowest level of rage that exists in predators, and is a
form of social abuse; it is also intolerable to us and it also violates all the
7 values that you have asked us illustrate.<span>
</span>Thank you very much for your question.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>I appreciated that answer very much; thank
you, Machiventa.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>Me too; that was very nice.<span> </span>That’s also a good illustration for our
course work.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I agree.<span>
</span>It’s almost a perfect plug.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Doug:</b><span> </span>I don’t have a question today, and I’m going
to say goodbye.<span> </span>See you next time.</p>
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break.]</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The age of materiality on
a global level<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">I have somewhat of a question about this age of materiality that we are
living in that’s allowing movements like #MeToo and to become global
consciousness rather than localized, thus allowing the movements to challenge
the established status quos in society. This age of materiality has also
allowed us to be self-destructive, as evidenced by the existence of 15,000
nuclear warheads in existence today giving our races the ability to destroy
ourselves many times over. This material age is working for us while it is also
working against us in other ways, but it has allowed for a proliferation of
global consciousness at many levels. Can you comment that this was
intentional in the development of Urantia for this to happen in this order?<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>By question do you mean the development of
material?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>Yes, to happen at this time and for this
consciousness to arise at the global level?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>No, it was not an intentional development from
spiritual intervention but rather of natural social evolution.<span> </span>It is a consequence of the materialism that
began before and after the industrial revolution that began the focus on
material goods to solve problems and that taken to extremes it has developed as
it has.<span> </span>What has not occurred is the
counterbalance of social consciousness of individuals, leaders and others to
come forward and curtail the materialism that has developed.<span> </span>As you can see, and as you read in the <i>Urantia Book,</i> in comparison to other
worlds the materialism that is rampant on your world is an extreme
position.<span> </span>It now rests way out of skew
of the vast majority of planets that have gone through similar eras of material
development and industrialization as has Urantia.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Saying this, it is not an intention for these things to
have occurred; it is however the intention of Christ Michael before and after
his ascension as Jesus to make plans for the Correcting Time which you are now
seeing and participating in.<span> </span>The
actuarialists or the forecasters of planetary development at the Uversa level
of observation are very accurate in surmising what will occur in centuries
ahead.<span> </span>These forecasts were available to
Christ Michael, and even with his own powers of observation of the future he knew
ahead that this planet would be in desperate need of the Correcting Time and
its inception at a particular time when it would be well received when the
difficulties of your world required its corrective presence, the presence of
the Correcting Time programs.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Rise in human
consciousness<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">When you have such foresight, you can prepare ahead for
the opportunities that allow you to take advantage of negative circumstances,
and fortuitous circumstances.<span> </span>One can
make wonderful plans ahead knowing what will occur, and for the time that it is
needed and under the circumstances and the ways to appeal to individuals to
participate in these programs.<span> </span>We are
almost at that point now through Nebadonia’s work on this world through her
Angelic Corps to influence and raise the consciousness and particularly the
vibration of human consciousness, the collective human consciousness on
Urantia.<span> </span>This in our terms is a vast
success and you are seeing this in many places.<span>
</span>What is allowing the coalescence of common thoughts and opinions and
values to come forward in the #MeToo movement, for example, is that there were
people ready for this at a time when it appeared.<span> </span>Now there are individuals who are coming
forward who would not have otherwise stepped forward to have their say about
how they were abused and make it known to the world that it unfortunately has
been a common occurrence throughout all your cultures.<span> </span>As we have said before, what is missing for
the vast number of unspoken people who hold similar values and opinions and
attitudes about the injustices that occur in your world, whether it is the 1%,
99% or many other situations, is that there has heretofore been no coalescing
influence to bring like-minded people together.<span>
</span>What we are striving to do through the 7 values is to bring commonality
into awareness of everyone, regardless of culture, regardless of race,
regardless of gender.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The questions you have asked today regarding the 7 values
are primary to the coalescence that will occur in the future.<span> </span>Because the 7 values are common to all people
and innate to all people, they will eminently make sense to everyone when social
programs are based on these values that appeal to those people.<span> </span>You will find a growing commonality among
millions of people who have seen no sense of participating in some of these
movements, but have been waiting for something that appeals to them at their
level of awareness, something that is common to them and their thinking.<span> </span>Does this make sense to you?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>Yes, thank you.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Using shame as a deterrent
<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Machiventa, this is Jeff again.<span> </span>I’d like to ask an ancillary question to Stéphane’s
and that is:<span> </span>Is society capable of using
shame as a control over people’s behaviors and habits?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Repeat that again, please.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I’m asking you to comment on the power of
“shame” to have sexual predators and predators of all other kinds of things as
a deterrent to their behaviors.<span> </span>I don’t
know that we can physically, as a society, put people in jail or lock them up
or fine them, or do this and that, to modify their behavior on their own, and I
am asking you your thoughts on the concept of “shame.”</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I understand.<span>
</span>Let us take it back to the life of Jesus.<span> </span>Did Jesus ever shame anyone?<span> </span>No, he did not.<span> </span>He used parables, he used stories, he used
his teachings to bring people into the awareness of something being wrong and
not being right.<span> </span>Shame is an abusive
emotional attitude and reaction of individuals.<span>
</span>It has often been used for negative results than the positive.<span> </span>Shame is not a tactic that we use and it is
not part of our repertoire of coaching and mentoring to individuals, or the
Most Highs to groups of individuals or organizations.<span> </span>Shame is powerful, but only negatively as it
is so destructive, and if you take the test of the 7 values, shame does not fit
anywhere as an answer to those values.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The alternative to jails<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Stéphane</span></b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">: Thank you for
that answer. I want to discuss how to rehabilitate the guilty ones,
instead of locking them up, so they can come back as valuable members of
society. What are the prerequisites for this change in our society? I
would venture to guess we need people to believe in the 7 core values as a core
part of their beings. If that was the case for everyone, of course, there
would be no need for locking people up and we would be able to implement
systems in place to help everybody out that is not fully aligned. But
what are the prerequisites for allowing a change in how we deal with violence
instead of locking people up? What needs to happen?<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I am very pleased with your question, because
it is a primary moral question to the advancement of social evolution of
societies on primitive planets such as Urantia.<span>
</span>The prerequisites are huge, if you take this situation of your societies
and civilization now, it has long been stated by philosophers that you know the
maturity of a society by how it treats its criminals, and the conditions of its
prisons.<span> </span>There must be a complete shift
in thinking about the individual as a personally responsible individual and
contributor or detractor of the social progress and evolution of society.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">What is needed is a moral
evaluation of behavior<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">There are fundamentally, basically three positions of
individuals in your society:<span> </span>1) those
who make positive contributions; 2) those who make no contributions but do not
do any harm; and, 3) those who are detractors and actually retard the social
progress and evolution of your societies, even at the expense of victims who
may be damaged for the full duration of their lives and incapable of overcoming
those harmful, detrimental situations and predatory acts.<span> </span>What is truly needed is a thorough moral
evaluation of the behavior of individuals.<span>
</span>As This One has been taught, we have spoken about personal
responsibility, that the individual is responsible for their behavior.<span> </span>On the primitive concept of correcting
detrimental social behavior, locking individuals up is of no use; you simply delay
the obvious result that will occur when they are released.<span> </span>Sexual predators are the most resistant to
correction.<span> </span>They are ingrained in their
mind by their capacity and their sense of self-entitlement that all others are
to be used for their benefit and their gratification.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Society’s moral
responsibility to remove predators from society<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">What is also needed at the most basic level, after you
come to the assessment of personal responsibility or the incapacity of an
individual to correct their behavior when they are free in society is the
ultimate moral responsibility for society to remove them from society,
permanently.<span> </span>It is your civilization,
your societies, particularly your democracies that are egregiously delinquent
in making these assessments and to make clear the difference between a societal
responsibility for protecting those who make contributions and to those who are
neutral, from those who would make predatory, detrimental actions and behaviors
to the destruction of individuals and to the detriment of your societal progress
and evolution.<span> </span>It is one thing for a
person to kill another individual, which is completely immoral and unethical in
all regards.<span> </span>That action is something
that can cause detriment to the individual’s survival as a soul, particularly
when it is intentional.<span> </span>Accidental death
is another issue.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">For you to undergo the growth in social stability that
you are speaking of, society must take the societal, moral responsibility to
remove these people permanently from your society.<span> </span>You do not live in an amoral society, but an
immoral society because your society has not chosen to remove these
individuals.<span> </span>It would rather leave those
individuals in your society to the detriment of dozens, if not hundreds of
victims whose lives will be changed through the negative for the duration of
their life, than to remove that individual to protect innocent victims.<span> </span>This is a moral quandary that has not even
been pondered by your society and your government.<span> </span>You are, in our estimation—and I say this
strongly—<i>you are a morally spineless
society!</i><span> </span>Democracies should not and
must not tolerate such egregious behavior by individuals to the detriment of
future generations.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Very straightforward.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>Well, that’s true, and that also goes for our
lack of population control, when you speak of being a <i>spineless society</i>.<span> </span>I
understand that completely.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Those two themes run together.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Yes.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>We have much work to do.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The immaturity of our
societies<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, that was a powerful statement, but it
needs to have been said, and now hopefully through these statements, you can
understand the immaturity of your societies and the immense need for the
Correcting Time and for conscientious, moral, spiritually evolved individuals
to participate in our work.<span> </span>This is not
work for cowards; this is not for those who are socially or morally reticent,
but those who are willing to engage a situation appropriately, when it
arises.<span> </span>We are not espousing individuals
to cause problems or to demonstrate in the streets, or to otherwise give
attention to what we are saying.<span> </span>These
are natural developments that will develop out of the cataclysms in the near to
medium future.<span> </span>There will be a necessity
of survival to make these tough moral decisions — decisions that are in total
agreement with the 7 values of social sustainability.<span> </span>There are several levels of using those
values:<span> </span>the personal level, the family
level, the social level, and societal level.<span>
</span>They all have their moral repercussions when you engage them at those
different levels.<span> </span>The responsibilities
accrue individually to each level accordingly to the 7 values.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Talking about capital
punishment with others<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Along the line you are speaking, would you
encourage us or discourage us from visiting capital punishment in the early
formation of our classes and web sites and materials?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>First we need commonality in our thinking on
that subject.<span> </span>For any planet that is
engaging in its advancement towards social stability and social sustainability
there is no capital punishment.<span> </span>The
aspect of punishment is primitive.<span>
</span>Punishment has no social value to the individual or to society.<span> </span>One either decides to be compliant to the
requirements of living in a stabilizing society or they do not, and those who
do not always seem to cause acts of separation that put them apart in a moral
situation where they are no longer acceptable to the larger society.<span> </span>Though there is no punishment involved, there
would be a process of rapid adjudication that would determine whether the
individual is capable of remediating their own thinking in their lives by their
and decisions or not.<span> </span>If there was a
particular act involved that would question their survivability then that must
be made; if it is in this regard, all decisions have nothing to do with
punishment and all decisions are positive.<span>
</span>The person would then be simply removed from society permanently.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Understanding the removal
process<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I guess I don’t understand the removal
process; are you speaking of banishment, or are you speaking of just
dispatching them to the Ancients of Days?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>There is no banishment; banishment and
imprisonment are socially unsustainable.<span>
</span>The process of handing them over to the Ancients of Days is a process
that requires much attention in your society.<span>
</span>You can view the primitiveness of your society as it thinks about and
makes edicts to terminate the life of an individual.<span> </span>There are many processes used now that are
primitive to the extreme and that would never be used in a society that is
advancing towards social stability.<span> </span>You
have many nominal means of dispatching an individual peacefully, carefully,
quietly without aggrandizement of violence.<span>
</span>For example, and we draw this from your own experience in your
societies, either personally or as you watch the news, that your police
stations often have in their storage lockers as evidence, many kilos of heroin
and morphine.<span> </span>If you made a liquid
intravenous drip out of heroin, you could dispatch a person rather quickly,
peacefully and painlessly and quietly, without any evidence of violence.<span> </span>You have many drugs that are used by
physicians, which would be highly useful, besides the opiates:<span> </span>Fentanyl is one of them that is used by many
people who have passed on voluntarily, or accidently.<span> </span>You have several examples of celebrities in
this last year and the year before.<span>
</span>These are non-violent drugs that are simply very useful for terminating
life in a peaceful way.<span> </span>You do not need
to be a medical genius to think of the processes to bring about death
peacefully. <span style="color:rgb(192,0,0)"><span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Human rights<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Stéphane:</span></b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> So the words
that comes to mind are “human rights”. If we had this debate, the challenge
would be around “human rights”. But what I think is missing along the
lines of human rights discussion are society’s rights and society’s primal
right to be able to sustain itself. I think this is where the whole
conversation goes astray in that human rights are held in much higher esteem
than society’s right to exist peacefully.<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Your question overlays something more fundamental.<span> </span>The 7 values have sustained your species’
survival, and now through the Correcting Time, we are striving to apply the 7
values to sustain your <i><span style="font-size:13pt">social</span></i><span style="font-size:13pt"> </span>existence.<span> </span>Heretofore there has been no means to create
a socially sustainable society or nation, or civilization.<span> </span>It has simply come into being and was
eventually eclipsed by its own ignorance of the intention to become sustainable
into a long and distant future.<span> </span>One of
your concerns that underlies your question is the fact that you are moving from
<i>personal</i> survival to the survival of
societies.<span> </span>This is a completely new
level of awareness and the concern that we have is not just the survival of
this generation, but for all future generations.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As your world and your societies, particularly this
society that you live in in the United States, is undergoing much moral decay
and disintegration at the social/societal level, governmental/political level
and the financial/economic level and especially egregiously at the family
level.<span> </span>Your societies are failing to
produce individuals who are socially sustainable as leaders who could make
contributions to the sustainability of future generations.<span> </span>When the rights of individuals surpass the
rights of all future generations, then something is very morally wrong with
your society.<span> </span>Yes, there is a concern
for human rights; humans do have rights as individuals, but they surely do not
eclipse the moral rights of future generations to live in peace.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>A very good point; thank you.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[<b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>You guys are working
this; this is good stuff!<span> </span>I’ve not heard
questions like this out of anybody in the last 16 years.<span> </span>You’re plowing new ground.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Well, Daniel, I think
that that is because there are now tools at our disposal to leverage much of
what is being said into cultural movements and away from the politics that we
have known in this country for 250 years.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>And what I see in
your work with Liz at the college level, now hopefully you are beginning to see
that the topics of social evolution and morality becomes a larger part of a 4
year program, that your work is to: 1) Introduce social sustainability and for
it to be accepted as a viable course, even if it is just one course for one
quarter, 2) and then have it evolve through discussion groups into larger
groups and more classes, such as has occurred during this session today.<span> </span>To ask those questions about the worth of the
7 values to examine moral issues in social situations, that leads to great
thinking.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>I think we are seeing
examples coming out, day-to-day that put in light of the 7 values are extremely
applicable.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Yes, and by working
the 7 values, you come up with far different answers, and oftentimes answers
that would never come about through the old traditional means of discussion.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Stéphane:</span></b><span>
</span>Such as we’ve heard today.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>I’m kind of at a
close here guys.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Speaking of working,
we’ve worked you pretty hard today!</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Yes, there was a
little bit of energy coming through me today, as I felt.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>Does Machiventa have
a closing statement for us?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Yes, he does.<span> </span>Thank you for moving us there.]</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Closing statements<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>As you see from our very fluid and engaged
conversation and dialog today, there are vastly important questions that have
not ever been asked before, only through perhaps one or two philosophers over
coffee in a coffee house, over brandies at a tavern.<span> </span>It is time now to bring all these questions
forward into the public view, and certainly you have many that can be asked by
educated individuals using the 7 values to examine these issues and gain
answers and insights into your social situations which heretofore have not
existed.<span> </span>We hope that you are beginning
to see that you and we are living on the cusp of the moral regeneration of this
world, and that you and we have the means to do so, and that through
Nebadonia’s and Christ Michael’s plans to raise the consciousness of the world,
you will not be alone, and we will not be alone as we work with you and engage
millions of other people who have similar concerns for themselves, their
children and future generations.<span> </span>It is
imperative that all this examination not be focused on this generation, but on
the welfare and sustainability of future generations.<span> </span>You and we truly hold the sustainability and
the survival of future generations in the palms of our hands now, within the
spans of your lifetimes.<span> </span>We thank you
and good day.</p>
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