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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,176,80)">New Era Transition #39 – Economic
Disruption; Decision-Making in Corporations; Monitoring Systems for Economies –
May 7, 2018<span></span></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Machiventa
Melchizedek, Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince<span></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Topics:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The
theme of transition is change<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Preparing
the God version of Social Sustainability, Morality and Ethics<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">More on
the forgiving of debts<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Economic
disruption<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">In
history, what would be comparable to this economic disruption?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Focus
on decision-making or the co-creative design team concept in corporations?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Use of
the phrase “co-creative” versus “validation”<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Reasons
for the 90 degree change in direction<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Seeing
the signs of the approaching cataclysms<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">You
have no integrated monitoring system for your economies<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The
time of expression for the process of the 90 degree turn<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Use 7
core values to make all decisions<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Debt-based
financial systems<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">We are
to embed and infuse the 7 core values into all of our systems<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Feeling
completely overwhelmed<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Being a
vital and essential part of what is to come about<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Are
cataclysms the only way to achieve this outcome?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">What
activities can we do today to survive the cataclysms?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Closing
comments<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">TR:<span> </span>Daniel Raphael,
PhD</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Team members present:<span>
</span>Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Jeff Cutler, Stéphane
Labonteé and Sherille Raphael.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Invocation:<span> </span>Sherille</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>May 7, 2018<span></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[<b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Sounds like a skeleton crew this morning.]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The theme of transition is
change<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Good morning, this is Machiventa.<span> </span>Thank you for gathering here once again.<span> </span>Yes, there are a few of us here, but we are
mighty and we have Christ Michael behind us, helping us through these days,
these eras on your world.<span> </span>You can rest
assured that our presence here is unwavering; it expresses total commitment on
our part and by Christ Michael and Nebadonia, the Most Highs and those on
Uversa who are observing these developments closely.<span> </span>As we have said before, this is an era of
transition.<span> </span>Transitions are not absent
from changes, sometimes frequent, sometimes long-term, but always the theme of
transition is change, and so we are in the midst of new change that we have
begun over 6 weeks ago.<span> </span>It continues on
and will do so for some time, perhaps until the momentous August 21 when Christ
Michael was born.<span> </span>We anticipate that
those of you who are “connected” will see these changes around you and you will
notice that things are not quite the same as they were.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Preparing the God version of
Social Sustainability, Morality and Ethics<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We have given This One another chore to do, and that is to
now write the “God version of the Social Sustainability and the Morality and
Ethics” that we have been using for quite some time.<span> </span>It is important that the God-centered version
be provided as much as or more so than the secular version.<span> </span>In all regards whether it is secular, it is
humanitarian and the origins of it comes from God.<span> </span>Now, in this new paper, it will express the
God-centeredness of all your creation and the ethics and social sustainability
of your world.<span> </span>It will be something that
will be non-denominational; it will be even non-Christian; it will be
God-centered and speak for everyone who believes in God, the Center of all
Creation, the First Source and Center, your personal Creator as exemplified and
evident by your Thought Adjuster.<span> </span>You will
see how the connectedness and the kindness of the Creator to create and build
you as individuals with curiosity, with creativity, with imagination, with
steadfastness and perseverance.<span> </span>All
these things are part of the Creator Itself, and you were created to express
these capabilities, these characteristics of Its Being.<span> </span>That said, you can be assured that these 7
values within you, created by God, given to you in your DNA to carry forward in
all your lives now and forevermore.<span> </span>They
are, in fact, more than just a part of your DNA, but are a part of your
morontial character and soul that is developing even now.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If you have questions, you are most welcome to ask them.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span> </span>That should help tie everything together and
make the whole more obvious and apparent to people.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, that is the intent of this.<span> </span>The work that we have been doing and writing
through This One with guidance from Avilah has been secular; it is the means by
which we can approach all of humanity regardless of religion, and so it is now
time to bring all the ends together in this one paper that we believe you will
enjoy reading.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">More on the forgiving of
debts<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Wonderful!<span>
</span>Professor Michael Hudson whom I have mentioned to you before and whose
book “Eating the Host” is on the reading list of our syllabus, he has a new
book out this summer titled “…and forgive them their debts.”<span> </span>(Sometime this summer, I don’t know exactly
when.)<span> </span>In this book he covers the
ancient practice of forgiving debts and jubilee years which you have stated
would be very difficult today.<span> </span>Professor
Hudson states that in the book of Luke, Chapter 4, Jesus said, “’I’ve come to
proclaim the year of the Lord,” meaning the Jubilee year.’<span> </span>He said, that meaning the Jubilee year, he
states that Jesus wanted to restore the debt cancellation as it was to be
according to Leviticus 25.<span> </span>Is Professor
Hudson correct and if so, is this material suitable for our planned expanded
syllabus?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>First, we do not comment on speculation of
social, political or economic nature.<span> </span>We
strive to give you structure and guidance for the “now of life,” so that your
tomorrows become more reasonable, sensible and rational.<span> </span>As for including it in your syllabus, it
would be an interesting read, but how it deals with social sustainability is
another factor that you must consider more closely.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Economic disruption<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff.</b><span> </span>Well, Sir, if we are going to have economic
disruption, whether it is large earthquakes or pestilence, or something that is
going to disrupt things, we are certainly going to have some economic chaos
that is going to make something more like a Mount Krakatoa or Mount Tambora in
a just-in-time world, where there is barely enough to go around. <span> </span>Clearly—at least in my mind—we live in a very
fragile world of finance that is debt based and when the pieces get put
together with the 7 core values as their center, there is going to have to be,
at least in my opinion, some system of providing credit that is consistent with
the 7 core values.<span> </span>Is there any historical
precedent that we can look at and refer to on our web site?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I do not make comments that you necessarily
need to put on your web site; that is not part of the consideration for my
discussion and discourse with you.<span> </span>I
will answer the first part of your question now:<span> </span>First, there is a precedent that is something
you are well acquainted with, and even more so today than ever.<span> </span>The precedent began with President Roosevelt
during the Great Depression, when it was decided that the government would
begin to have a deficit budget, that it would begin to produce programs from
money it had generated itself thus creating what is called “deficit
spending.”<span> </span>This was of immense success,
as everyone quite knows and it has been used continuously since then off and
on, but particularly in the last 20 years or so, most consistently to maintain
a high quality of standard of living, at least for this nation.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The second part of that is this:<span> </span>It is not a recommendation, it is not
something that we offer you as a possibility, but it is offered as a thought:<span> </span>During the economic crisis that is surely to
come, and it will be of a global nature, then alternatives and solutions must
be thought of, which would include only one possibility, and that of the
forgiveness of debts.</p>
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you would see in the reference to the deficit spending, would be the opposite
of that where the forgiveness of debts would create a credit when the debts of
individuals would be cancelled.<span> </span>If that
were to occur now, it would cause even more indebtedness and truly it would
only exacerbate the debt problem now.<span>
</span>The forgiveness of personal debts must wait to become the final and only
way to resolve the international economic crisis and global depression.<span> </span>Then, you would be giving your economy in
computer terms, a “refresh,” meaning that you would refresh it to a time
before, a restoration point that is earlier.<span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thirdly, as you can see from the status of the economy of
the world now it seems to be running quite well, is it not?<span> </span>It is.<span>
</span>The deficit spending of individuals now has been of a great boon to
nations that import to the United States, meaning principally China.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Fourthly, if there were an agreement of status quo that the
United States would continue to buy and China would continue to sell and
acquire a greater abundance of credit, the world economy would continue much as
it is.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Fifthly, the thought of paying back the egregiously huge
debt of the United States to its citizens and to other nations is beyond
comprehension and is impossible.<span> </span>There
will never be a paying off of the debts of the United States to other nations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Sixthly and seventh, in retrospect it would seem, would it
not, the forgiveness of debts, at least to a certain degree of everyone, would
be a reasonable course.<span> </span>The seventh is
this, the summation of these circumstances could change in immense magnitude
during the state of incredible economic unbalance and chaos that would ensue
immediately and long after an economic crisis occurred in the world.<span> </span>The economic crisis may be of such extent
that it would last for more than 10 years.<span>
</span>This would be in parallel with the Great Depression of the 1930’s and
early 1940’s.<span> </span>So as you see, in
summation with all this, this will become a highly probable and incredibly
complicated situation.<span> </span>The best method beforehand
is to use super computers to run algorithms on a “what if” basis, and then put
in the factor that debts would be forgiven.<span>
</span>You know and we know quite well that given the current circumstances of
your economy, that if a world economic collapse occurred, that everyone would
be seeking repayment of debts so they could pay their own debts.<span> </span>The significance and logic of what the
Hebrews did so long ago, makes eminent sense, at least for a small tribe or
clan of people.<span> </span>How it applies to your
world given the general egregious avarice, and the incredible a 1%:99% divide
is another thing that will create havoc in your global economic situation,
nation by nation.<span> </span>I hope this satisfies
your question?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">In history, what would be
comparable to this economic disruption?<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Yes, Sir, you told us it would be very
difficult and very complicated, and obviously it is, so there really isn’t
anything in comparison in history that would be appropriate to our current
circumstances; is that basically what you are saying to me?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>That is correct.<span> </span>The only parallel that would exist would be
the investment bubbles that had occurred before 1929, which were the major
cause for the subsequent Depression.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Thank you for that clarification.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>With supercomputers and algorithms the
situation of the global economy is no more complicated than predicting global weather.<span> </span>Predicting weather is based on the continuing
measurements of weather effects and outcomes and generators around the
world.<span> </span>It is a closed system and
programs there have been programs run that take this into account, that take
other anomalies into account, such as the volcano having a tremendous explosion
which causes a decrease in sunlight to the planet by 50% over a period of 3-5 years.<span> </span>That is one scenario.<span> </span>That is a very similar effect that would
occur if you had an economic depression.<span>
</span>Of course, as your minds are now surmising, those two events would be
connected, would they not?<span> </span>And certainly
there would be a great consequence to the numbers of humans that would be alive
at the end of 3-5 years due to vast swaths of starvation around the world.<span> </span>We suggest you do more inquiry regarding this
situation of debt forgiveness, as one of the scenarios for developing other
“weather patterns” in your economic system.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span><span> </span>Stéphane
was not able to join us this morning; he’s in the air, flying again for
work.<span> </span>Kindly, he did send me his
questions.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Focus on decision-making or
the co-creative design team concept in corporations?<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>Machiventa, You mentioned in the last session
the change from corporate structure to decision-making.<span> </span>Is this purely a change in teaching
curriculum?<span> </span>Should we be focusing our
efforts solely on decision-making or should we also consider putting efforts in
the co-creative design team concept?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>To all parts of your question, “yes.”<span> </span>Let me expand on that, though:<span> </span>First, in decision-making we do not see a
stark division between the decision-making that your company, for example, is
using now, which is principle based as opposed to value based.<span> </span>We suggest the combination of both, as both
are essential to the progress of all organizations.<span> </span>First of all, you would need immediate
decisions, you would want to take into account how you are making decisions
now; and secondly, you would over long-term courses of action and decisions,
you would want to have the ongoing influence of the value system of
decision-making that we espouse and suggest.<span>
</span>Always in your making decisions based on the principles that you are
using now, that you would also have those values in mind, or in front of you,
as you consider those decisions.<span> </span>The
trouble with corporations, and particularly governments of and other organizations,
is that when the short-term goals and short-term decision-making processes
neglect long-term outcomes and desired outcomes, then short-term goals and
decision-makings will cause the demise of that organization.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">What is missing from principle decision-making now are the
values for long-term survival of your organization and the society.<span> </span>Organizations need to have an association
meeting perhaps as a suggestion of deciding on the course of corporations to
help sustain societies and sustain the environment of the world so that they
can stay in business.<span> </span>In a sustainable
society, staying in business also means that they become an intentional
influence for sustaining their host societies.<span>
</span>Business organizations must consider the larger scope of human existence,
i.e., how to sustain their host societies which is the context for operations
and profit-making – staying in business.<span>
</span>There must be some thought behind the immediate decision of how it would
affect the outcome of decades and centuries ahead, and not only including just
the immediate state or province or nation in which the corporation exists and the
global context, but takes into account all of civilization as the
client/customer base for your companies.<span>
</span>This is the comprehensive integrative economy and decision-making aspect
that we wish to promote to you and to all other mega-corporations and international
organizations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>As a follow up question, can the two
directions, co-creative design teams and decision-making correlate to activity
and efforts with or without a TR?<span> </span>I
would think the co-creative design team is aligned with activity with a TR and
decision-making more amenable to day-to-day dissemination without a TR?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Thank you for your insight.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Use of the phrase
“co-creative” versus “validation”<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Going back to our web site, Liz said 2 weeks
ago we were quite correct to not use the phrase “co-creative,” so it would be
appropriate for our work then to speak of “validation of existing rules” and
changing those in line with the 7 core values.<span>
</span>Is that correct?<span> </span>Should we be
using “validation” as a tab on the web site and examples that way?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, we support that and you also may wish to
speak of the “design and validation team,” which would be very useful.<span> </span>I wish to make an adjunctive statement here,
that we suggest to corporations and companies and organizations, which already
have secretive sub-organizations within them that these organizations could
have a covert co-creative design team within the organization that would be
governed and staffed by those individuals who believe in the co-creative design
team process.<span> </span>It is not necessary that
corporations be without the presence of God within them.<span> </span>You know and we know that this is highly
personal, yet for any organization including the Army, the CIA, that you know
and we know that they have covert organizations within them that use paranormal
processes to “view” circumstances psychically in other nations which has proven
to be quite accurate.<span> </span>It seems
reasonable that other processes that would be spiritual in nature could also be
used quite effectively within those organizations to abbreviate the process to
find conclusions that would be validated and useful for the far distant
future.<span> </span>As you know from the co-creative
design team process where a Melchizedek acts as a consultant, the consultant
Melchizedek has as his primary duty to keep the team on course in its work, to
take into account the outcomes <span> </span>of their
work a century ahead or far into the distance.<span>
</span>With the far-sightedness of celestial/morontial insights, those will
prove to be very helpful and useful to fulfill the long-term goals of
corporations for its profits and for its contributions to societies and to the
welfare of its employees, its clients and customers.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Reasons for the 90 degree
change in direction<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>You provided reasons for the 90 degree change
in direction.<span> </span>But to elaborate, is it
also because the previous teachings were fully exhausted?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, they had been exhausted to that
point.<span> </span>If you see the work of the
Teaching Mission, the Magisterial Mission and our current work, each of those
missions contains what we call teaching modules, that one module will be
initiated and completed.<span> </span>It will lead to
another module and so on.<span> </span>Any good
teacher will provide the basis for modules 4 or 5 steps ahead early on.<span> </span>The foundations for future modules must be
developed in current time, therefore it is not unusual for us to complete a
module, then proceed to another module or two, and then go back to a previous
module and bring it back into existence so that it helps to fulfill what needs
to be done.<span> </span>For us this is an expedient
way of proceeding efficaciously so that our next modules are effective; they
must complement each other, one to the other.<span>
</span>For instance we have spoken that we have completed the module of the
corporate development for social sustainability, family clinics and many other
aspects.<span> </span>It is not that those will be
forgotten.<span> </span>Certainly not!<span> </span>You can rely upon us to use the corporate
structure in the future as it lends itself to the broader dissemination of the
modules that followed it.<span> </span>It is
important that mortals be able to feel, see, and know that there is some logic,
some rationality, some higher reasoning involved in the process of the
development of the Correcting Time.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">These comments I am providing to you now are insights into
the workings of our teaching and our Correcting Time and through the
Missions.<span> </span>It is important that you who
have long-term insights and long-term perspectives of our work see the logic of
what we are doing and the reasoning behind it.<span>
</span>We have nurtured you, thousands of you, personally, individually to come
to this point with us for making decisions to continue your participation.<span> </span>We surely are not going to sacrifice you as
soldiers in the frontline in these changes.<span>
</span>No, our work is to support you to move with us as we move ahead from one
module to the other becoming more and more capable with you in your societies
to bring about the changes that we desire.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>Machiventa, I see that you have answered the
next 3 of his questions in your answer so I won’t go into those, but going on
with Stéphane’s 4<sup>th</sup> question:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Seeing the signs of the
approaching cataclysms<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>If Acceleration is fully justified and
required at this time, are there signs we should be able to see that would
indicate the fast approaching cataclysms?<span>
</span>Being in the middle of it, an acceleration of events is not always
recognizable.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>One moment.<span>
</span>Yes, you are correct that there are recognizable signs to take note of
and these are taken into consideration of prior developments within your
societies and your cultures.<span> </span>By
comparing the two, you can foresee what is to come.<span> </span>First of all, the cataclysms have already
begun; some have not come into expression yet, but will and when they do, those
later ones will come into existence rather suddenly.<span> </span>What you now perceive with the weather and
the melting of the ice caps in Greenland and the rise in sea levels is an
ongoing cataclysm that will be gathering more and more momentum, and as that
continues the destruction will become exponential rather than arithmetically
increasing.<span> </span>So the weather and the
global warming and the rise of the oceans are connected.<span> </span>Destruction from weather will be immense as
you are seeing that there are now tornados all over North America in places
that previously had not experienced them with any frequency.<span> </span>This is a comparison to the history of the
last 100 years of weather that you know of.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">When you look at the macrocosm of the economic markets
around the world, you see in your language an increase of volatility that
prices go up and down rather rapidly, and that it is affected and the
predictability is further compromised by use of computers for buying and
selling.<span> </span>This aggravates the volatility
of the market which will cause further extremes to bring the economy out of
balance.<span> </span>Yes, there are safeguards in
the computer designs and in the software to prevent extremes.<span> </span>However, the uncertainty of the market is a
primary factor for predicting the collapse of the economic market.<span> </span>Right now you see the global market as being
very solid and very sure, that the global market is increasing in its
profitability for most nations, and that there is solid confidence for
investing reserves to take advantage of that growth.<span> </span>As we suggested, the world economy is one of
those last cataclysms that will change dramatically and traumatically within a
very short period of time, and it will be caused either by one, a manmade
event, such as the destruction of the Middle East due to nuclear weapons, or
due to some cataclysm of a geologic, atmospheric event of some sort or the
combination thereof, of weather, volcanism, tectonics and so on.<span> </span>The example of the decrease of sunlight to
the surface of the earth would be one of the causes for the global economic
collapse.<span> </span>It would also augment
tremendous increase of military activities, both of which would cause
tremendous pain and agony to billions of people.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The signs are all around you, but the trouble is that you
are much like the frog in boiling water; you can boil a frog without it knowing
it by increasing the temperature slightly a little bit at a time.<span> </span>This is how you see it very clearly in your
world; as This One has given example in his writings of “On Dialog” by David Bohm.<span> </span>[Bohm, David 2004, <i>On Dialogue, </i>Ed. by Lee Nichol, Preface by Peter NM. Senge,<i> </i>Routledge Classics, London.]<span> </span>What he said was that when you are unaware of
what is happening, you do not have a solution.<span>
</span>In fact, when you assume that everything is as it is and it will
continue that way, you do not have an insight to the change that is occurring,
you continue to hold that belief and faith that what you assume is correct now
will be correct into the future.<span> </span>And it
is only when there is dramatic change are you aware that change has occurred,
and only then can you perceive that it has occurred over a period of time.<span> </span>This is the current status of your economies
as there is continued inappropriate leveraging of assets to buy more and more
goods and services and to create more and more debt by consumers.<span> </span>This is a highly fragile situation, and yes,
the Central Banks do suggest keeping large reserves in the banking system, but
those will prove grossly inadequate when the collapse occurs.<span> </span>Signs of a booming economy are that
everything will stay the same, which gives those who are willing to take risks
the opportunity to invest more, to take greater risks for greater return.<span> </span>Very few people are prepared for the status
of how to have reserves on hand to survive the coming global depression.<span> </span>Only those who have magnificent and huge sums
of reserves personally on hand will survive well.<span> </span>This is a proven fact that came out of the
Great Depression of the 30’s and early 40’s; those who are in debt will surely
lose everything, and those who do not have debt can survive, and those who have
assets set aside can survive quite well.<span>
</span>These are known factors.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">When you see the incredible fragile imbalance of your
economics down to a personal level in societies now with immense personal debt
load, you are foreseeing the future.<span>
</span>Monitoring these as you monitor the weather would be most helpful to
assist corporations to survive the coming global depression.<span> </span>There are people who would scoff at what I
have said, and they would say, “We see no evidence of a global depression
occurring,” well, my friends, it is very much like the rattlesnake beside you
as you walk down the desert path—you do not see it but it is going to strike
your leg when you pass by—and that is probably as suddenly as a global
depression will occur; it is invisible to you now unless you are very careful
to watch the changes that are occurring.<span>
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">You have no integrated
monitoring system for your economies<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Your meteorological associations and agencies are very adept
at following ongoing real-time changes in your weather to know what is going to
happen today, tomorrow, the next day and perhaps even 3 months into the
future.<span> </span>Do you know as much for your
world economy?<span> </span>No, you do not.<span> </span>You do not have an integrated monitoring
system for your economies; neither do you have a means to assess the risks
involved that are existing, or the possibility or probability that they will
become expressed.<span> </span>Your weather systems
around the world have a much more integrated real-time measurement process for
changes that are going on compared to your economic/financial systems around
the world.<span> </span>It is always “Me first; I’m
going to get mine before you do and I’m going to make the most money compared
to you,” and so on.<span> </span>Because of the
primal motivation to acquire more and the selfishness behind many of the
decisions in the finance and corporate sectors, the global depression is inevitable.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>Very interesting!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">The time of expression for
the process of the 90 degree turn<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>Machiventa, I would like to revisit, if
possible, a statement that you made early in the discussion today, and that was
speaking about the 90 degree turn in your efforts to kind of goad us in our
efforts to that 90 degree turn; you said that we have seen changes in the last
6 weeks, and between now and “Michaelmas,” we will see more.<span> </span>Are you telling us that this new direction
will be kind of in place by the end of August?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:0.5in;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[Note:<span> </span>“Michaelmas”—the feast of Archangel Michael
on Sept 29.]</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>I did not suggest that.<span> </span>It is important to know that there will be
changes, there will be developments in our… one moment… we began the process of
the 90 degree turn 6 weeks ago and it will be in full expression by Christ
Michael’s Birthday in August.<span> </span>That does
not mean that it will be in place worldwide.<span>
</span>We are initiating the 90 degree turn so that decision-making can be much
more rational; it must be much more logical; and it must be based on the 7 core
values in order for your nations to recover from the cataclysms that will be
coming.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Use 7 core values to make all
decisions<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Decision-making is at heart of all that happens in your
world.<span> </span>What underlie all decisions, all
the time, always are values.<span> </span>It is
essential that the values of corporations, for example, that its costs and its
profits be reasonably assessed and make decisions on that, while also at the
same time, keeping in mind the 7 core values are essential for the longevity of
staying in business so that you are able to make those short-term decisions.<span> </span>We have a very large audience base, as you
know, through the many God-centered religions.<span>
</span>It is simply a matter of convincing over 4 billion people that it is
reasonable to use these values to make decisions, because God gave them to you
and that they are innate to each one of you.<span>
</span>There must be a certain comfort level in accepting these values for
making decisions.<span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">To make other decisions that do not take this into account,
then you do so on your own intelligence and your own personal egoistic needs
for your positions of power, control and authority, and as you use those to
garner profits and to stay in business.<span>
</span>Sometime in the future the ego must bend to the will of your world that
there is a certain degree of selfishness which is destructive to others at the
expense of yourself, whether it is you as an individual or a mega-billion
corporation.<span> </span>It is important that there
be some weighing of this to stay in business in the long-term.<span> </span>You will find in the future when the collapse
occurs that there will be those businesses that are ongoing, but they will be
continuing to shrink and shrink in size, not through the sale of their assets,
but simply because they have no income and no revenue to support their existing
structures.<span> </span>That must be taken into
account; when that occurs then there will be tens-of-millions, hundreds-of-millions
of individuals out of work, which will aggravate the whole situation and they
will not be able to afford to buy iPhones and Swatches and your nice
technologically based products.<span> </span>They
simply will have a hard time even to put food on the table.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>One of the mornings I was in stillness, the
word “Promise Keepers” came into my head.<span>
</span>I remember when that organization got started and was gathering minimal
races and faiths into large assemblies in coliseums and to essentially take an
oath of truthfulness and faithfulness to the vows that they had made.<span> </span>Is this an organization that we should
approach?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Again you use the word “should.”<span> </span>You would make your questions far more
profitable to yourself if you would ask for and rephrase your question of means
by which you gain benefit from it.<span> </span>It is
a speculative question and we do not like to answer speculative questions as it
leads to too much confusion on your part, simply because you have not thought
through the question.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Debt-based financial systems<span></span></span></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span> </span>I was wondering if you wanted to at all get
into the subject of money or our debt-based financial system that just seems
insane, and other ways it might be done, like having a treasury directly print
money, and then there are other topics along those lines like crypto-currencies
and advanced societies on other worlds that don’t even have money; they use a
totally different means of doing business.<span>
</span>Are those sorts of subjects you would like to speak about?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes. <span> </span>The
solutions that you have striven to put into place to maintain your banking and
economic system are all manmade.<span>
</span>Therefore, you will not change the ways you are doing business until
circumstances require and dictate that you do otherwise.<span> </span>Through our TR session we have been trying to
help you to get insights into how to conduct your human business in a way that
becomes sustainable, that you will create human systems that are in agreement
and alignment with the values that sustain your species.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Banks, organizations, corporations, and governments do not
have the 7 values embedded in their DNA, in their organizational DNA.<span> </span>They do not have a DNA strand, chromosomal
strands, genetic strands within them in which for us to imprint.<span> </span>Those are manmade and given to your
organizations in the form on their organizational documents and their policies
and their procedures.<span> </span>In order for
organizations and whole societies based on organizations to survive, they must
come in alignment with the 7 values that we have given you.<span> </span>These values must be embedded in the founding
documents and the procedural and policy documents that every company has, so as
to make decisions that contribute to the sustainability of all, everyone.<span> </span>As you have a very primitive profit-and-loss type
of economy on this planet, you can be assured that embedding these values into
organizations will be an extremely tedious long-drawn-out process that will be
resisted at every turn by executives and policy boards and executive
decision-makers in every company and corporation and government that
exists.<span> </span>None will want to secede their
authority, power and control.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">We are to embed and infuse
the 7 core values into all of our systems<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As we said before, we are striving to give you these values
and how to infuse them and embed them and incorporate them into your
organizations so that individuals will have the framework for organizations to help
rebuild themselves, your societies and your civilization on a sustainable basis
after these cataclysms have occurred.<span>
</span>What you are seeing in these sessions right now, through your own
question generation is the “how to” of all this; how to make the transition
that will be an arduous, difficult task and in striving to do so, you will find
many arguments and many contests against you as you are trying to do that in
your current circumstances.<span> </span>The best you
can do is to make your boards of directors and official executive
decision-makers aware of these values and the need to keep them in mind for the
decades ahead.<span> </span>These values and what we
are sharing with you is essential to share with your younger generations.<span> </span>Decision-making must be infused with these
thoughts in their indoctrination, enculturation, and socialization processes for
your children.<span> </span>We know and you know the
change for the old heads of these corporations and governments is not possible
at this time.<span> </span>What you must strive to do
is to be aware of them, become the teachers of younger generations, so that
they are prepared to rebuild on the ashes of your societies and organizations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span> </span>Thank you very much!<span> </span>We’re coming back to the same thing, “do the
program; get with the program.”</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Mr. Craig, you have an audience who are
clapping.<span> </span>(Laughter.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Craig, you have pretty well summed up
everything they have taught us over the last 6 years.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span> </span>In my statement, I didn’t expect that answer,
but that’s the right answer, isn’t it?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span> </span>It’s not complicated but it’s not easy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Don’t we have a quiet member who hasn’t asked
a question yet?<span> </span>Liz?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Feeling completely
overwhelmed<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>I’m just kind of dumbstruck by the answers to
the questions that have been asked already.<span>
</span>I don’t have a prepared question, and I’m feeling small and
insignificant and don’t quite know what role I can play in all of this except
for the minute things that I’m doing in my daily life.<span> </span>I see these things as being so huge and so
out of control that I feel inadequate to any task that seems to be before
us.<span> </span>Maybe it’s just my mood today
because I don’t normally feel like this, but I’m feeling quite overwhelmed, and
so I don’t have a question today.<span> </span>I feel
like I’m going to contact Marylhurst University and present them with our
proposal for our course in sustainability or Planetary Management, and that
seems like such a miniscule drop in the bucket, and yet I shall pursue that.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Being a vital and essential
part of what is to come about<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Thank you for your comments, Liz.<span> </span>They are deeply appreciated and we feel your
sense of being awestruck by the challenges ahead and the degree of contribution
you can make to the resolution.<span> </span>You,
however, are a vital and essential part of what is to develop and to come
about.<span> </span>Your web site is primarily an
educational site; it is to prepare individuals for thinking outside the box of
the consumerism of your contemporary society and economies.<span> </span>Your web site is a means to teach social
sustainability and to apprise and provide summations of these sessions there
for individuals to read.<span> </span>There is one in
South Africa, Marthe Muller, who has created summations of sessions which are
incredibly accurate and useful to those readers who are not willing to consume
10-15 pages of transcripts every 2 weeks.<span>
</span>This is an essential part of what you could provide on your web site as
education from the celestial realm.<span> </span>Your
web site is co-creative, therefore our presence is known to those who go to
your site and read the materials.<span> </span>The
wisdom that comes through these materials is proof of other intelligence as
provided to your people, your societies and organizations and your
civilization.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Your work is… we would like you to place yourself 20 years
into the future and look back and see the steps that you took to change the
minds, or to inform the minds of thousands, tens-of-thousands of people who
came to your web site in a time of need to know how to proceed.<span> </span>With that in mind, your web site could be
very productive very quickly.<span> </span>You would
make a major contribution to the restoration of your world to social, political
and economic stability.<span> </span>This is the
purpose of your web site, as we see it.<span>
</span>This is not some monument to anyone’s ego; it is a working functional
site that must be supported to last into the future, even if it morphs in form
and by name.<span> </span>It is something that people
can go to.<span> </span>(Pause.)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[<b>Daniel:</b><span> </span>Liz, what was the
last part you said about your situation—you had 2 points in mind.<span> </span>One is that your site is vital to informing
the future, and the 2<sup>nd</sup> point is…?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>I just mentioned that I
was feeling moved to take our educational program up to Marylhurst University.]</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Yes, we have been personally acquainted with Marylhurst
College in the Portland Metro area.<span> </span>It
is a very affable institution.<span> </span>This is
something that would be useful to them; they would see social sustainability as
not the counterpoint to material sustainability, but the connecting link that
completes material sustainability as contributing to humanity.<span> </span>You will find one person who will be avidly
interested in what you are doing.<span> </span>This
will be your point of contact to implement what you see possible.<span> </span>Your work at Southern Oregon University in
Ashland is commendable and useful; it has been a training field for you to work
out what needs to be done.<span> </span>You will
find, however, that private colleges have private interests and that they have
particular penchants of interests for particular areas that they see as useful
and vital to fulfill their mission and the charter of their organization.<span> </span>When you find those that are in alignment
with our work, then we ask you to “pounce” on them.<span> </span>Thank you!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>Thank you for that vote of confidence; I
appreciate it, Machiventa.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>Stéphane has two last questions I’d like to
get in, if we may?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Are cataclysms the only way
to achieve this outcome?<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>You mentioned that our decision-making is
short-sighted and provides decisions with paths that are unsustainable.<span> </span>The cataclysm will provide opportunities to
long-sighted decision-making with sustainable solutions.<span> </span>Is cataclysm the only way to achieve this
outcome?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>There is one word for that and that is, “Yes.”<span> </span>There is, however, a cautionary statement
that we give to you:<span> </span>One is that <u>we
are not the cause of those cataclysms!</u><span>
</span>Christ Michael in the creation of your world and his Local Universe
brought into existence events and developments of a physical nature on all
planets.<span> </span>You will see these mechanical-material
effects come into existence through the cataclysms.<span> </span>They will cause a cascade of social problems
and eventually, through our co-creative participation with you, we will develop
with you solutions to the problems that exist now.<span> </span>The answer is, “yes,” that the cataclysms are
inevitable and the only means by which we can bring the Will of Christ
Michael’s presence and the development of the Days of Light and Life into
existence.<span> </span>As David Bohm has said in his
short book, “On Dialogue” that once again, when you assume what will exist in
the future, then you have also assumed that you will be unable to see any
solutions to any problems that exist because you also do not see the
problems!<span> </span>Therefore, “yes” to your
question again those cataclysms are not the solution to the current problems,
but are the means by which you will create those solutions.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">What activities can we do
today to survive the cataclysms?<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span> </span>And lastly, what are the best activities we
can undertake today that are most likely to survive the cataclysms?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Thank you so very much for your deeply
insightful question—intuitive question!<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>First of all, you have begun the process already
by being God-centered.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Second of all, you have striven to renew your
God-centered connection with your Thought Adjuster and your communion with
Christ Michael, Nebadonia and their hierarchies of Light.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Thirdly, you are contributing by participating
in the work that we are doing here.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Fourth, you have begun to strive to gather
insights in how to make this wisdom applicable to your current organization for
its survival.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Fifth, you have begun to see that there are
possibilities for changing the outcomes by beginning in the present time.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Sixth, you are striving to achieve a state of
sustainability.<span> </span>Once the mind has become
curious to know if that could be possible, then the mind also begins to search
for possibilities that will fulfill the answer to that question.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>And seventh, you have the means within you to
make this known to many people in many ways.<span>
</span>You can do this by unconsciously but intentionally being in contact with
other individuals, Thought Adjuster-to-Thought Adjuster for those individuals to
become curious to the possibility of sustainability on a long-term basis, both
materially and socially, and corporately.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b><span> </span>I thank you and Stéphane thanks you very
much.<span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b><span> </span>As do we all.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,176,80)">Closing comments<span></span></span></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span> </span>Once again we thank you for your presence and
thank you for reading these transcripts.<span>
</span>You are the way into the future for your children and grandchildren to
be sustained; you are the means by which decisions will be made that will bring
that outcome about.<span> </span>You are the ones who
will be here during the time of the cataclysms when they erupt through your
recollection of the means to rebuild your societies, that recovery will be
possible for your children and your grandchildren, great-grandchildren and
future generations.<span> </span>You are ones who
begin to understand that values underlie all decisions, all the time, for all
concerns, whether they are material, social or spiritual.<span> </span>These values are the ones that will guide you
into the course of sustainability and the logic of their presence in your world
will become known before too long, and you will understand how you logically
must begin making decisions that are in agreement with the outcomes and the
Days of Light and Life.<span> </span>Christ Michael
has given you the tools; he has given you the mind and he has embedded the
values within you to use to make those decisions.<span> </span>Now you have become co-creatively responsible
with us for the care and the nurturance and the recovery of the lives of your
children, grandchildren and future generations, and for this we give you great
thanks and wish you good day.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[Announcement:<span> </span>Liz
and Jeff are requesting submissions from anyone who is interested in contributing
to the “Socially Sustainable Families” page on the <span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)"><a href="http://www.7corevalues.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">www.7corevalues.org</span></a></span>
website to write a few paragraphs and submit them.<span> </span>Send your contributions to:<span> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)"><a href="mailto:info@7corevalues.org">info@7corevalues.org</a>
</span>]<span></span></p>
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