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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,112,192)">New Era Transition #43 – Circle Growth;
Abortion; Gene Manipulation; Celestial Eugenics Program – Jul. 16, 2018<span></span></span></b></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Christ Michael</b> of
Nebadon and <b>Machiventa Melchizedek</b>,
Planetary Manager</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Topics:</p>

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Michael on co-creativity of Urantia<span></span></span></p>

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the ascendant journey<span></span></span></p>

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help available<span></span></span></p>

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report for Urantia<span></span></span></p>

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in murky waters<span></span></span></p>

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our personal growth in the circles<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Psychic
Circles and Planetary Management<span></span></span></p>

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others as to circle attainment<span></span></span></p>

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to share wisdom increases<span></span></span></p>

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on the treatise<i> On Liberty</i><span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">In the
event of any large national disaster<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">What
‘should’ we be doing at this time?<span></span></span></p>

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for readers to add to Jeff/Liz web site<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Might
undeveloped countries benefit more from birth control products?<span></span></span></p>

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in the case of rape<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">What
about abortion in the case of deformed fetuses?<span></span></span></p>

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use by CRISPR and gene splicing<span></span></span></p>

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individuals who manipulate genes<span></span></span></p>

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the Life Carriers to return to the original code<span></span></span></p>

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splicing to replace extinct animal species<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Are we
about to make a quantum leap in human capabilities?<span></span></span></p>

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celestial eugenics program<span></span></span></p>

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Canadian sociologist, Jordon Peterson<span></span></span></p>

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else are the 7 values being taught?<span></span></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Was
WWII a cataclysm that triggered world population?<span></span></span></p>

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growing repugnance of violence<span></span></span></p>

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Statement<span></span></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">TR:<span>  </span>Daniel Raphael,
PhD</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Team members present:<span> 
</span>Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Jeff Cutler, Stéphane Labonteé and
Sherille Raphael.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Invocation:<span>  </span>Jeff</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>July 16, 2018<span></span></b></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Christ Michael on
co-creativity of Urantia<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>CHRIST MICHAEL:</b><span>  </span>Good morning, this is Christ Michael and
welcome to a glorious day.<span>  </span>(Group
greetings.)<span>  </span>We are most welcome and
thank you for your presence here.<span> 
</span>Without your conscious participation and intentional participation to
help us co-creatively in healing this world, this work would not be done.<span>  </span>Whether it takes a few years or a few
centuries, it cannot be done even in 10,000 years if the mortals on this planet
do not co-creatively, willfully and intentionally assist us in this
process.<span>  </span>You see, on this world,
Machiventa has had the experience of being here as I have, and we know
personally from our first accounts, presence and experience of being here that
this world presents the God the Supreme with a huge mountain of wisdom to be
gathered for the ascendant journey by willfully and positively making decisions
in accord with God’s Will for each individual.<span> 
</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Choosing the ascendant
journey<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">And those individuals who do not choose to attend the
ascendant journey, or who repudiate God, nonetheless many people provide
wonderful additions of wisdom and knowledge to God the Supreme.<span>  </span>Every opportunity is given to everyone, those
who believe and those who do not, and even those who repudiate our existence we
assist them to make right decisions to follow their will to do God’s Will.<span>  </span>This oneness of character of the Thought
Adjusters within all of you binds us all together.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Celestial help available<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Your planet now is on a coordinated and concerted effort by
Thought Adjusters and the Celestial Realms and Angelic Realms to bring this
world into peace and harmony.<span>  </span>As you
have learned so well and so thoroughly that life is all about making
decisions.<span>  </span>No decisions, no growth!<span>  </span>It is important that people grow, and in
order to grow and improve your quality of life, you must make decisions, you
must engage the process of living your life as a mortal and as a budding
spiritual being on this world to ascend into your next many lifetimes.<span>  </span>Albeit Nebadonia and I embrace each of you
and all of you, one and altogether with our presence here among you, and we
have the wisdom to assist you whenever you call upon us to access our wisdom, we
will readily share that with you for our wisdom is the wisdom of light, our
wisdom is the wisdom of goodness, of oneness, of wholeness and completion.<span>  </span>That is the intention of the Days of Light
and Life for the whole universe, and eventuality that will surely come into
being. </p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Progress report for Urantia<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As a progress report, we have made wonderful inroads into
many smaller communities around your world.<span> 
</span>Many of those people, even ordinary individuals by the millions and
billions are becoming aware that something is not quite right around them, that
there is something more, and they are developing a hunger for messages and for
values and words and guidance and leadership that brings them into the
direction that they feel in their heart must be true, of peace, of oneness and
wholeness.<span>  </span>People yearn for that, and so
these basic urges in human motivation have been augmented in all of you.<span>  </span>Those who have chosen to do wrong and to be
in self-separation from all others also are given this, and so you see a huge
difference between those of light and those of darkness, those who choose to
support goodness and peace with others and those who destroy it and cause a
fracture in your societies and in your lives.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As your Creator and one-time Planetary Prince, now standing
beside Machiventa Melchizedek, Nebadonia and I wish you good day.<span>  </span>(Group:<span> 
</span>Thank you, Christ Michael!)</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Diving in murky waters<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>This is Machiventa Melchizedek and I am
privileged to follow our Creator.<span>  </span>Christ
Michael is my Creator and my brother, as he is your brother/Father Creator as
well.<span>  </span>We thank him for his presence here
today.<span>  </span>You can trust in what he has said
that there is a dedicated concerted effort to bring your world into light.<span>  </span>You are now much like divers working in a
murky river that you can forge ahead, but you do not see very far ahead of you
to know what is coming, or what is developing.<span> 
</span>These waters of darkness in your world are being brought into lightness
and they will become still at one time.<span> 
</span>As one of your sage and wise individuals [Alan Watts] says, “The way to
clear up muddy water is to leave it alone,” and so this is a truth that by not
stirring up the animosity of others, then peace will come about, and peace
first of all must come about within you.<span> 
</span>Peace and stillness are essential to the development of the inner mind
and personality and the bonding between you and your Thought Adjuster.<span>  </span>This peace comes from your intrapersonal
relationships, your inner dialog that you can monitor all through your life,
but now to become conscious of what you are saying about yourself.<span>  </span><span style="color:red"><span></span></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I will step aside now and wait for your questions, as you
have perhaps many that remain to be answered.<span>  
</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Assessing our personal growth
in the circles<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>My question is about personal progress, and
yes, the best way to clear muddy water is to leave it alone, but assessing
ourselves in our growth, we have been told about the circles.<span>  </span>Can you expand on the significance of these
in our progress and also in respect to Planetary Management?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>The Physic Circles are not something that you
can consciously leap from one ring of the circle to another.<span>  </span>It is done by your unconscious awareness of
them and striving to do good, to improve who you are, what you are and how you engage
your life with others.<span>  </span>It is finding the
path of “what works” and “what does not work” to aid that progress.<span>  </span>As I said in my introductory statement, your
inner dialog is your best guide to how you view yourself.<span>  </span>If you are feeling guilty, or you worry, then
you are living in the past or the future.<span> 
</span>You must live in the now in this very moment to make that progress.<span>  </span>If you are calling yourself names and you
drop something and it breaks and you call yourself a big dummy, or some other
expletive, then you have work to do.<span>  </span>One
is to become at peace with yourself as you live in this moment.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">This guidance is the forerunner of world peace, it is to
know that you want peace, but to know that I AM peaceful, and the “I AM” is a statement
of the God union within yourself and your Thought Adjuster.<span>  </span>I AM at peace; I AM peaceful; I AM a good
person; I think good thoughts, I do good deeds and I know wisdom from that
which is not wisdom, and those who are a fraud in life and those are
sincere.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Psychic Circles and Planetary
Management<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>The significance of the Psychic Circles of
achievements in Planetary Management.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>To be a Planetary Manager means not that you
are taking the place of the Planetary Manager, but you as a citizen of the
planet, as an individual, see yourself as contributing to the world.<span>  </span>As you progress through the Psychic Circles
you realize that you are one among many, and that others are similar as you
are.<span>  </span>Many have the same urges and
motivations for life as you have, and as you progress in your Psychic Circles,
you become more centered—no pun intended—that you become centered in the
thought of being in union with your Thought Adjuster and are a contributor to
the planet.<span>  </span>Those who are not
progressing along the Psychic Circles could be called leeches or parasites on
your planet, both for the produce of the world materially and
energetically.<span>  </span>They do not work for the
good of the whole planet and they work against it, thus retarding social
evolution and the world.<span>  </span>As one
progresses through these 7 Psychic Circles, you realize that you are one part
of a whole, which encompasses the whole universe, and that you take on the role
and the thoughts and attitudes and decisions of the Planetary Manager to make
contributions to your life and to prepare your children for similar paths early
in their lives.<span>  </span>As you move toward the
center of the Psychic Circles, your consciousness expands.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Identifying others as to
circle attainment<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>Just as a follow-up, as we work in this
concept of Planetary Management and a contribution thereof, then is it likely
possible that we can identify others that are not at the same level as we are,
likely above or below the circles that we currently are at.<span>  </span>Would that be a true statement?</p>

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</span>One of the attributes of a Planetary Manager is observation: one is
self-observation, not for condemnation, but as a learning process; and as an
observer of others, not as a process to condemn them, but to observe them and
to see the wisdom that they have in their life that you can use for yourself,
and the wisdom you have gained to share with them.<span>  </span>Some people are not open to share their
wisdom; some people who are regressive in their spiritual development do have
wisdom that can be useful if you interpret it in positive ways.<span>  </span>The important aspect besides observation is
discernment; to discern yourself and discern others is a means for gaining
immense wisdom in a short period of time.<span> 
</span>An individual who has self-interest at heart would see others and
observe them and discern that they are superior to them and would condemn them.<span>  </span>The person who is ascending in the circles
sees others as their brothers and sisters along in the struggle in life to get
through this lifetime.<span>  </span>As you move in
the circles you become more Christ-like and patient and tolerant and good and
kind.<span>  </span>You are able to make wise
decisions because they benefit everyone.</p>

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increases<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>Does the ability to share wisdom increase as
you progress through the circles?<span>  </span>Or is
the sharing not required?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>The sharing is a process of service.<span>  </span>You know and I know that when you are
teaching and sharing with others who are not open to be led, or to listen and
to learn, then they will learn nothing.<span> 
</span>It is very true that when the students are ready, a teacher arrives, and
there are many people now who are hungry for goodness and right decision-making
for the good of themselves, their families, their communities and their nation
and societies.<span>  </span>Does this suffice?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Comments on the treatise <i>On Liberty</i><span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>We are using in our syllabus the treatise<i> On Liberty</i> by John Stewart Mill.<span>  </span>And in that treatise, and I quote “That the
only purpose for which power can be rightly exercised over any member of a
civilized community against his will, is to prevent harm to others.<span>  </span>His own good, either physical or moral is not
a sufficient warrant, over himself; over his body and mind, the individual is
sovereign.”<span>  </span>With this statement as
prelude, what is my right to pursue the 7 core values for my personal growth,
and do I have a right to object to someone who is abusing that right with antisocial
behavior or the overconsumption of finite resources that are essential to me,
and if so, is there a just <span> </span>recourse
available to me?<span>  </span><span style="color:red"><span></span></span></p>

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that, to break your multiple questions into separate questions, please.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Do I have a personal right as a human on this
planet to pursue the 7 core values for my personal growth?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Do I have a right to object to someone who is
abusing that right with antisocial behavior or a behavior that is consuming
resources that are essential to me?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Let me answer the first part of that
question, please.<span>  </span>In the first part, you
have a right to object, but how you object must meet the moral standards of
those 7 values. You must be able to discern when the morality of the situation
requires you to interfere directly and physically, and [when to] use the ethics
involved to know when to keep your mouth shut and your hands in your
pockets.<span>  </span>The ethics of the 7 values
gives you guidance in how to react to those situations.<span>  </span>As a potential Planetary Manager, you become
a thinking individual to assess situations that are unfolding.<span>  </span>Yes, you have a right, but how you exercise
that right is another situation.<span>  </span>I would
suggest you develop 2 or 3 more questions concerning this.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">In the event of any large
national disaster<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Okay.<span> 
</span>I’m going to need some time to do that.<span> 
</span>I have 2 other questions that came out of the last meeting: you
mentioned in NET #42 the practice of sending the elderly out on an ice floe
with no parka to make room in the igloo.<span> 
</span>With all of these IOUs via political promises for future benefits and
all of the overconsumption brought forward with the encouragement of mountains
of personal and government debt, are we not close to the point of pushing
people out on the ice—figuratively—in the event of any large national disaster?</p>

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begun.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">What ‘should’ we be doing at
this time?<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Is there something that we should be doing
about that with our model?<span>  </span>Are we just
plugging along with the model and waiting our time until it is picked up, or do
we need to be more proactive at this time.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Explain for the readers what you mean by
model.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>The 7 core values decision model that we are
trying to have people put into place for every day decisions for their lives
and the lives of their families and organizations, and hopefully at some point,
governments.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>My team and I have a difficult time with the
word “should.”<span>  </span>It is a difficult word
for us because we live in the present and you live in the present, and “should”
is projecting an expectation onto other people.<span> 
</span>We do not do that; it is not part of the celestial teaching model for
the work that we do.<span>  </span>We accept our
students as they are, where they are and we strive to feed them in a way that
they become hungry and curious and want to actually invade our teaching manuals
to know everything about their lives and how to live it so that they arrive in
the future in that peace and stability.<span> 
</span>Yes, you can do a lot more; you “could” do a lot more.<span>  </span>We are not saying, my dear friend, Jeff, that
you “should” do a lot more.<span>  </span>That is your
decision.<span>  </span>We do not project those
expectations on you but offer you opportunities under the word “could” that
give you the options about what you “could” do to support that work.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">When you begin developing web sites and teaching materials
that introduce these concepts of the 7 values and how that repercusses
individually and in the family and socially, you have begun a road of teaching
the public; you have begun to pique the interest of those who are curious.<span>  </span>And unfortunately, you live in a society
where very, very few people are curious about life and how to develop the
goodness around them into peace and personal, social stability.<span>  </span>There is much you can do and if we were to
give you further guidance about your web site, we suggest that you develop your
material in a way that does pique an individual’s curiosity to want to know
more.<span>  </span>That is a skill of writing and
marketing that is remarkable in itself for the typical human psyche. <span> </span></p>

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people on this team, we find no one who “should” be doing more.<span>  </span>You are doing as much as you can do.<span>  </span>You have fulfilled many expectations for
yourselves that you never thought you ever would 5 years ago.<span>  </span>You are at a place now where you have grown
and matured and you are evolving spiritually and connecting that spiritual
evolution into your social realm.<span>  </span>This
is marvelous; we could not expect or ask you to do more.<span>  </span>You have begun to act in your lives in ways
that are productive; and you are not proselytizing this material; you are
laying wonderful traps of goodness to entice people to this light and love that
Christ Michael first shared as Jesus.</p>

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Jeff/Liz web site<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>To add to that, may I make a shameless plug
to the readers of these papers to say that they are invited by us by all means
to submit things that they think would be appropriate for the web site.<span>  </span><a href="mailto:info@7corevalues.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline">info@7corevalues.org</a>
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</span>Yes, you are welcome to do that as you have just done.<span>  </span>And also remember that you are
(Laughing)…<span>  </span>[This is Daniel:<span>  </span>Machiventa appreciates your very subtle and
adroit venture.]<span>  </span>… yes, and you would be
remiss if you did not ask others directly for the wisdom that you wish to share
in your site, if you understand what I mean.<span> 
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</span>Thank you very much.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Might undeveloped countries
benefit more from birth control products?<span></span></span></u></p>

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questions.<span>  </span>I thought readers might be
wondering about 3 things that stem from our last conversation, and the first
one is:<span>  </span>Might developed
countries—apparently we send food and other aid to some of the undeveloped
countries—might we get more mileage, do more favors for everybody if we were
sending them birth control products so that people weren’t having unwanted
children?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>My team behind me is clapping in appreciation
of your suggestion.<span>  </span>You are very right
that whatever efforts that pursue a population management strategy do so in a
way that is not viewed as colonialism or to maintain the superiority of the
donor countries.<span>  </span>Do you understand?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span>  </span>Yes, it has to be an offering, not a sort of “pushing
on.”</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Abortion in the case of rape<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span>  </span>The second one I think readers might want to
know is Roxie brought up abortion and you said it raises many problems, which
of course it does.<span>  </span>I was thinking about
the case specifically of where a sexual predator rapes a woman and she becomes
pregnant.<span>  </span>I suppose that might be a good
place for a morning after pill, but what if a woman does find she’s pregnant
from a rapist.<span>  </span>There seems to be
distress on all sorts of levels from the woman’s personal point of view and
society’s point of view.<span>  </span>I’m not sure we
want to perpetuate the genes of people with that kind of tendency, and of
course a child who isn’t wanted and may not be loved once it arrives.<span>  </span>I’d better stop there.<span>  </span>The question is, does that make a different
case for abortion than the general case?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Yes, it certainly does, and in that case
abortion is warranted.<span>  </span>It is from the
perspective of us; it is not immoral to do that.<span>  </span>To maintain the child against the will of the
mother would be the perpetuation of the immorality and violence of the act of
rape, and yes, there would be lifetime moral and ethical and personality repercussions
in the lives of everyone concerned who knew about that incident, and for that
child.<span>  </span>All efforts of life by humans
must be oriented toward good; evil acts have repercussions, which we hope you
will ameliorate or dissolve in ways that are peaceful.<span>  </span>The ways of conducting an abortion as that is
a welcome event for everyone, a moral relief for those who are involved when it
is conducted as early as possible.</p>

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case of deformed fetuses?<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span>  </span>Thank you and the last question is very
similar:<span>  </span>It’s what happens when tests
show that the fetus is going to be born severely deformed or handicapped or
with some sort of genetic disease.<span>  </span>I
imagine the same thing would apply?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Yes, it would apply, but the overriding act
of compassion is to know ahead of time, or at least during the early phase of
pregnancy whether the child will grow into a moral being.<span>  </span>In other words, one who is capable of
receiving a Thought Adjuster.<span>  </span>When the
infant is born as an imbecile or does not have the capacity to eventually make
moral decisions, then you are really addressing the aspect of a non-human, one
who would not have the capability of making moral decisions.<span>  </span>Do you understand this?<span>  </span>(<b>Craig:</b><span>  </span>Yes.)<span> 
</span>Let me comment further.<span>  </span>As your
medical practices are still quite primitive there is still much exploration
going on to identify those gene structures which cause disabilities in the next
generation.<span>  </span></p>

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country will be given the opportunity to have their genetic structures analyzed
and that in doing so to identify those gene structures which would cause the
next generation to be disabled.<span>  </span>When it
comes to genetic manipulation, the ideal is to return the gene structure to its
original genetic code—much like software code—so that it operates properly and
functionally to produce well-rounded, healthy individuals, mentally and
physically.<span>  </span>When there are errors in the
code, it is moral and ethical to remove or replace them.<span>  </span>To manipulate the gene structures in humans for
any other purpose is immoral on a cosmic scale.<span> 
</span>To seek to have some kind of eugenics program that develops a perfect
race or a superior individual to play basketball or football or any other
sports, or ballet, is cosmically immoral.<span> 
</span>What is desirable for all humans is that you grow from birth into being
a normal individual who can experience a life and make moral decisions and
actively choose to will to do God’s Will.<span> 
</span>When there are deficiencies in life that do not make a positive
contribution to the growth of that individual, whether it is from nerve damage,
muscle damage or skeletal damage before birth and throughout life, those
factors disallow the individual from growing and expressing the full potential
within themselves.<span>  </span>Do you see the
distinction between the immoral aspects of gene manipulation and that which is proactive
and highly moral?<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b> <span> </span>I believe so, yes.<span>  </span>We want to have well-rounded, average
individuals of improving quality in each generation; we don’t want to try and
predispose them to excelling at any particular thing and not being complete in
other respects.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Good.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Medical use by CRISPR and
gene splicing<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>In my gathering from your comments, we as a
species should look upon the medical use of CRISPR and gene splicing in human
beings as creating—I don’t want to say superhuman—but someone, a person that is
not quite human.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>That would be a gross immoral activity of
your medical field then.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>So there is a risk that by manipulating the
genes that you end up with creating humans that have no ability to inherit the
Thought Adjuster?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>This is a possibility, but the process of
CRISPR, as you explain it, is very deliberate, it is very intentional, it is
very conscious on the part of the technicians and scientists who do that and
they would have an excellent view/perspective/understanding of what they would
be creating.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Malevolent individuals who
manipulate genes<span>   </span><span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So the next idea or thought is this:<span>  </span>You and we know that there are malevolent
individuals who want to have self-aggrandizement through their profession or
through some other form of recognition, and there would always be those
individuals who have a CRISPR process even at home, who would manipulate genes
to produce something that was non-human.<span> 
</span>It is important that there be oversight in all medical facilities that
use these gene manipulation technologies so that the efforts are focused on
generating new generations of genetically whole individuals.<span>  </span>That is now being done as you have begun to
see, where individuals in a family know that they have a predisposition towards
a particular disability, which may manifest early or later in life, and so they
undergo gene manipulation of an ovum or spermatozoa so that the combined new
person or child of that family does not have that predisposition.<span>  </span>This is one of the best ways to begin the new
whole generations, at least mentally and physically.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>I am inferring that the removal of an
inheritable gene that is detrimental to the quality of life of people that
inherit that, removal of that gene is a moral act, but the manipulation of other
things to insure blue eyes, or blond hair or being tall or athletic, purely for
personal aggrandizement is morally repugnant.<span> 
</span>Is that so?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Helping the Life Carriers to
return to the original code<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>That is correct.<span>  </span>I want you to draw a very graphic distinction
here, that when those mal-functioning genes are removed from the gametes (ovum
or spermatozoa), and then those 2 cells are joined, the child that comes about
will be able to access the potential that lies within them.<span>  </span>In doing so, you are helping the Life
Carriers to bring about the original code as it was given to your species long
ago.<span>  </span>This is a God given coordinated
effort, whereas when mortal technicians think—make their own human personal
human decisions of what they think ought to occur in a child—then you begin the
slippery road into highly immoral eugenic programs.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>Thank you for that and part of the
co-creation that we have been talking about and the 7 values would apply to
this, is that we join forces with the Life Carriers in a way to improve the
genetic code to that intent.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Yes, through the millennia, hundreds of
millennia, the genetic code of your species has in some individual strains
degenerated, and that they have mismatched sequences that when they are
combined between the 2 fertilizing cells the results, though a natural process,
is a process of biologic devolution, rather than evolution.<span>  </span>So, when you make the co-creative conscious effort
to not improve the species, but to correct the deficits that have come about
over the millions and millions of couplings of those cells, you are really
expressing the will of the Creator for the best efforts of your species.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b><span>  </span>May I ask another question?<span>  </span>What I’m wondering now is would gene splicing
and that sort of thing be necessary if our planet had followed a more normal
evolutionary course, and if we had weeded out the defectives and degenerates
along the way, the way it should have happened.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>We are highly reluctant to address an “if”
question concerning these aspects, these topics.<span>  </span>We deal with what is here today and what we
have is you, and so we are working with the best-of-the-best here to improve
your species and this planet.</p>

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extinct animal species<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Going to a second derivative of this
discussion, if someone privately said to themselves, “I live in the Midwest and
I think we could sequence a gene splice from the common pigeon and reintroduce
a gene that would turn this common pigeon—I can’t remember the name at the
moment— into a carrier pigeon, and reintroduce that extinct life on the
planet.<span>  </span>Would that be considered a moral
action, or just something that the Life Carriers should be doing?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>That does not fall within the realm of
morality.<span>  </span>That deals with non-sentient
beings as a pigeon and there would be no detrimental impact for making that
sequence change.<span>  </span>Clarify if you want.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>So that means in the far distant future when
we are approaching a more rational balance between the number of human beings
and the number of insects and animals, that it would be possible to sequence
and bring back some extinct species that added balance to the ecology of the
planet.<span>  </span>Is that a fair thing to say?</p>

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witnessed yourself, is often much in arrears of the height of understanding of
what those decisions may entail and what may occur afterwards.<span>  </span>It is much like what happened when rabbits
were introduced to Australia.<span>  </span>That was a
good thought at the time, but it became highly detrimental where now millions
of rabbits have had to be killed over the years to protect the crops and the
welfare of people.<span>  </span>Do you have another
thought concerning that?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>Rabbits would make a good export crop!<span>  </span>(Laughter.)</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Are we about to make a
quantum leap in human capabilities?<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>Machiventa, I have a follow-up question
that’s aligned.<span>  </span>It seems like we are at
a quantum leap in human capabilities; we are talking about modifying genetic
code; we are talking about commanding celestials as per the last lessons.<span>  </span>So it seems that if we can somehow make a
leap in aligning ourselves and stop the wars and focus our energies on peaceful
and benevolent activities that there would be an associated quantum leap in
human capabilities.<span>  </span>It seems we are
being prepared with all the Super Hero movies that we are seeing these days
with super human powers being displayed and brought to our attention, am I correct
in thinking that we are on the threshold of a quantum leap in our capabilities?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>The thoughtful answer to that is “no.”<span>  </span>The considered answer to that is that humans have
already within their gene structure immense reservoirs of capacities that are
unimagined to your scientists and to individuals anywhere in your world.<span>  </span>You already have within your gene structure
undisclosed, inactivated programs, sub-programs of your species which will give
you super-human abilities, not especially those that are physical, but those
that are mental and those that are psychic and spiritual. I must speak guardedly
about this as there are secrets of Life Carriers in their laboratories that we
are not allowed to share with mortals of the realm.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Another part of the answer is yes, you are already seeing
this within the last and current generations of children.<span>  </span>Those children who are exposed to learning
situations and exposed to much stimulation of a positive nature early in their
lifetimes—and when I say “stimulated” by many forms, I mean social activities, reading,
mathematics, music, arts, history, philosophy, ethics, morality and to discuss
those things early on.<span>  </span>We have seen
children as early as 4 years old and 5 years old who are able to discuss in simple
terms ethics and morality with much clarity, and to ask questions of adults
that are stunning to those adults.<span>  </span>You
have a generation of these children who are now present.<span>  </span>They will become, with opportunities and
right guidance by their parents, the wonderful Doctors of Philosophy, those
Ethicists and Moralists who can guide and develop and mature your social
processes.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The celestial eugenics
program<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">These as you are seeing are already active in the gene
structure of individuals.<span>  </span>There have been
many changes in the social predispositions and maturity of individuals as in
the last century.<span>  </span>You have gone from the
simple horse and buggy era of the early 1900s, now into the current era.<span>  </span>Almost all of the major innovations that have
occurred of significance to the maturation of your planet and social evolution
have not been connected to technological innovation, but have been due to the
arts, whether it is writing or painting or some generation of intellectual
development.<span>  </span>Technical innovations are
simply making a better flint hammer and a flint knife to do your work around
the world.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">What we are seeking now, that we augment and support, and are
actively involved in is developing these next 2 generations of children.<span>  </span>This began over 30 years ago and
continues.<span>  </span>We are guiding the unions of
young people, males and females, to join together to have this new generation
of children.<span>  </span>This has been our “eugenics
program” of the celestials that yes we are involved in bringing people together
for the highest good and evolution of your planet.<span>  </span>We do not see rapid change in your planetary
structure of social evolution, whether it involves your social institutions,
your political institutions or economic institutions, or other agents of human
activity on a short-term scale.<span>  </span>We deal
in generations of people; we see children as the best capable of healing your
world to come.<span>  </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As This One just read today, a quote from Frederick Douglass,
“It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.”<span>  </span>[Douglass was born an estate slave who became
a very intelligent individual, lecturer and author.]<span>  </span>Your world will be healed by good parents
doing good deeds and raising their children to be honorable, moral, ethical
individuals with a social conscience, and who has a conscious intention to do
the same with their own children.<span>  </span>This
is how your world will become whole and one.<span> 
</span>The structure of the holism of social sustainability requires that all
social institutions and processes use the same value system to make
decisions.<span>  </span>Making those decisions and
using those values will automatically bring about an evolved social and
spiritually evolved world.<span>  </span>Now you know
what we have been working on for the last many, many years, that it is
important to change the decision-making process, and that can only be done by
infusing decisions with moral and ethical decision-making based on those 7
values that are innate to each human being.</p>

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Jordon Peterson<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b><span>  </span>My question as an add-on or part of this
thread of discussion is—I think it is almost fair to say a phenomenon—of this
Canadian Sociologist, Jordan Peterson, who is attracting very large crowds of
young people, who is being attacked by the political far left for his
unequivocal stating that moral relativism does not work, and that there are
solid moral and ethical values.<span>  </span>He does
not use the 7 core values, but he comes very close.<span>  </span>Is this a fruit of your efforts that so many
young people are rejecting the idea that “if it’s okay with you, it’s
okay.<span>  </span>We have to figure out what’s moral
in your mind, we have to accept that it’s just the way it is.”<span>  </span>Is this hunger for his speeches by huge
audiences around the country a part of the fruit of your efforts?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>Yes.<span> 
</span>Thank you for asking that.<span>  </span>And
I’ll expand on that, and that moral relativism is abhorrent to us.<span>  </span>The way through that, not around it but
through it, is to recognize the values that are consistent, honest and have
been persistent for over 200,000 years in your species to assist the survival
of your species.<span>  </span>Those values provide a
concrete bedrock stratum of consciousness that encircles the whole earth
because those values are in everyone.<span> 
</span>There is no escaping into the relativism in these values in moral and
ethical terms.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Where else are the 7 values
being taught?<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>It seems the 7 values are, the only place I
see them being revealed or discussed is in this group.<span>  </span>Typically, such revelations of important
discoveries are found in different places at the same time.<span>  </span>Are we to expect that we will see discussions
or discoveries of 7 values independently elsewhere that will come </p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>The points that we see around the world that
are engaged in these 7 values are already the product of our work through
you.<span>  </span>What you see around the world,
particularly with the younger generation and Millennials is a hunger for
morality and values that are stable, consistent and unequivocally unmoving,
irrevocable and unchangeable.<span>  </span>They
understand that the older generations are now—the X, Ys and so on—are morally
deficient, even though they are good people.<span> 
</span>These children are hungry for something that they can rely on that is as
firm as the ground underneath their feet when they walk through town.<span>  </span>This phenomenon is a generality that is
occurring around the world.<span>  </span>These young
generations have no faith or confidence in the values of the older medias of the
self-interest of those generations.<span>  </span>They
see that those are shallow and superficial and lead to individuals who make
egregious decisions at the moral expense of other people.<span>  </span>What you are seeing is this phenomenon in
Europe, it is in the United States, it is in South America, Africa, in Asia and
all around the world.<span>  </span>Decades ago, we
discerned that this generational phenomenon which would be coming, and now are
feeding them with the idea of these 7 values and the morality that develops out
of it.<span>  </span>What you will see if you do your
research into ethics and morality is that there has never existed a stable,
permanent, unified morality and ethic anywhere in history, that philosophers
have always questioned how to make these decisions that are unequivocally
correct; those values were not revealed until the last decade.<span>  </span>Now it is time for us and for our mortal
friends to share this information with everyone worldwide.<span>  </span>There is no proprietary interest by us to keep
these 7 values secret, or the morality that has developed out of it.<span>  </span>It is important now to use this to bring
about the world that is entering the age of social sustainability and moral
decision-making.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Was WWII a cataclysm that
triggered world population?<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b><span>  </span>Thank you, and I have one last question in
that the <i>Urantia Book</i> seems to have
been coinciding with the end of the Second World War: <span> </span>Was the Second World War seen as a cataclysm
that would trigger the world population towards a better future and it said
that the <i>Urantia Book</i> was timed to
coincide with such a cataclysm.<span>  </span>Is that
correct?</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>No, we would not agree with that.<span>  </span>World War II was certainly a cataclysm of
humanity; it was the development of the egregious acts and response to the
aggressors of World War I.<span>  </span>It was one of
those developments where the First World War was one foot dropping and World
War II was the second foot dropping.<span> 
</span>What has changed your world immensely due to the war mechanism and
industry is the development of technologies that allowed and even encouraged
the growth of population by feeding the millions who otherwise would not have
come into existence.<span>  </span>Technological
innovations have been more significant for the change of your world than was
World War II.<span>  </span>WWII and WWI together
provided humanity with a specter of a dystopian world and that there is a need
to always keep this in mind.<span>  </span>There is a
wonderful effort to never let the world forget about the Holocaust; this is one
of the ultimate tragedies and cataclysms of all humanity; it was the actions by
a nation of people to consciously and deliberately destroy another ethnic and
religious and political group.<span>  </span>This is
something that has occurred again on a smaller scale in the subsequent decades,
one which must be eliminated.<span>  </span></p>

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those people act against the forward inertia of your societies, that work
against the good morality of your people of individuals and whole societies,
there must be a moral process for weighing that existence in the world.<span>  </span>End of that thought.</p>

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violence<span></span></span></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We have had tremendous discussions about morality and ethics
and so on.<span>  </span>What you have seen if you
take the grand scale of the last century and all the tragedies and travesties
and wonderful, beneficent things that have occurred in your world, there is one
thing to glean from this whole process, is that there is a growing repugnance
of violence, and a tremendous desire for peace and goodness to prevail.<span>  </span>That is something we totally support!<span>  </span>As one becomes more repugnant to violence and
war of all sorts, you begin to realize that it has to do with self-interest,
personal decision-making and political group decision-making to carry out that
violence.<span>  </span>It is again another instance
of decision-making.<span>  </span>[Break in the
recording.] <span> </span>What you are seeing is the
progression of thought, that there is repugnance to violence and war, that
there is an awareness of values that underlie peace and social sustainability,
and that war and violence occurs because of personal selfish decisions.<span>  </span>As one begins to juxtapose the violence and
war with those 7 values, you begin to develop a thought of morality and ethics
about proper and good conduct, conduct that is in concert with those values.<span>  </span></p>

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import and potential of this union, then you will begin to enter into the phase
where philosophy begins to counter-balance the technologies of your world.<span>  </span>Where the technologies of violence are
physical, the technologies of peace are social, mental, and spiritual.<span>  </span>This is developed through the development of
spirituality and of philosophy.<span>  </span>As the <i>Urantia Book</i> has said repeatedly, is
that there is a tremendous dearth of philosophical thought that is of
assistance to your world to come to grasp with many of its big problems.<span>  </span>However, that situation has changed tremendously
with the introduction of these 7 values and the unwavering morality that develops
out of those 7 values.<span>  </span>Now we can begin
to write the scenarios, the pragmatic applications of those problems in terms
that ordinary individuals can understand and appreciate.<span>  </span>We have worked with This One to develop a
recent paper, which is available on that web site.<span>  </span>It is the first pragmatic application of the
7 values and morality for a problem that has vast global repercussions in your
world.<span>  </span>The title of that paper is,
“Answering the Moral and Ethical Confusion of Uninvited Migrants.”<span>  </span>It has been applauded by friends of This One
who have read his philosophical, almost academic papers over the years and have
clapped and applauded that this has finally given them a practical application
to understand what he was talking about.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b><span>  </span>I hope you can appreciate in my last
statements about the development, the growth and the maturation of thought
through technologies to values, to decision-making, to morality and now into
philosophy that is in agreement with those values and morality and the
spirituality that develops out of that.<span> 
</span>The philosophical questions that evolve from such contemplation will
eventually end up with recognizing that there must be a purpose for human
existence.<span>  </span>You, who are believers, know
this already, you accept that, affirm it and your will to do God’s Will.<span>  </span>For the rest of humanity who needs to be
convinced, they will come to realize that all reality stems from within the
mind, and within the mind there exists the presence of the IAM, the fragment of
God who is with you as your friend and companion and eventual fusion-mate.<span>  </span>With that we give you great hope for your
children and great-grandchildren, and in a world that might be in peace because
of what you are doing today.</p>

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