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#62, Machiventa</b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;color:rgb(0,112,192)">New Era Transition #62 – Long Arc; Sharing
concepts; Forgiveness; Making Foresightful Plans – Apr. 22, 2019</span></b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Machiventa
Melchizedek, Planetary Manager</b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Topics:</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The
long arc of civilization</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Solutions
will pay off in the long run</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">What
concepts are recommended for young teenagers?</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Prayer
and Worship for Machiventa</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgiveness</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Do
we forgive those who kill hundreds of innocent people?</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgiveness
is an intrinsic part of your evolving spirituality</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgive
but also hold people accountable for their actions</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">A
question on the sun’s magnetic field</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Need
for a searchable database for UB and transcripts</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The
definition of a functional society</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Lack
of hierarchy in design teams</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">How
to begin forming a design team</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Getting
institutions to make foresightful plans</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The
impact of elections on our political system</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">No
society will last unless it incorporates all 7 values</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">A
crucial generation for making adaptations to society</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">It
takes courage to introduce these concepts</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Your
survival is paramount to Nebadon</span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Your
chore is to train, tutor and mentor young children</span></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">TR: Daniel
Raphael, PhD</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Members present:
Roxanne Andrews, Rick Brunson, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Jeff
Cutler, Stéphane Labonteé and Sherille Raphael</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Invocation: Stéphane</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>April 22, 2019</b></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The long arc of civilization</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Good morning, this is Machiventa
Melchizedek. It is good to be here with
you. We have continued to present in our
lessons to you the long arc of civilization, the long arc of societies and
nations. It is this long arc that
Planetary Management is particularly concerned about. There are immediate things, developments in
your world that we do not deal with directly, and sometimes the answers we give
to those problems you present may make you look askance at what we are
saying. The emphasis is not necessarily
to fix the problems that are immediate to your lives now, but to create
solutions for a sustainable future. This
is important to us because your planet is a long lived planet and has the potential
to produce many billions of good souls successfully and for the benefit of God
the Supreme.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">We couch our counsel to you in terms of the long arc,
though we eagerly appreciate your questions and engage them in terms of the
immediate and long-term. We have known that
your societies, your leaders have a desire for quick results with very little
return in the future. We however operate
from a far different method of strategic decision-making and
implementation. We do that in terms of
providing solutions for the long-term, so that the long-term would become
successful and that individuals, families and communities will thrive, be
stable and contribute to the next generations, and so on.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Solutions will pay off in
the long run</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The recommended changes and improvements that we have
given to you are some that are far-fetched in some of your minds, that they are
radical, that they are far from even a centrist point of view of what can work
today. This is very true and that is why
many of you have a cognitive and cultural dissonance with our solutions. We ask you as the frontier people, the
pioneers of this New Era to abide with us, be patient with us and you will see
that the solutions do pay off in the long run, as you become more and more
invested and the ideologies that we teach become more and more deeply invested
and embedded in contemporary and even younger generations.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">If you have questions, you are most welcome to now bring
them forward.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">What concepts are
recommended for young teenagers?</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> I have a young niece who has shown interest.
For those who are interested at a very young age in the concepts that we are
discussing, what is the best path forward for encouraging them for moving
forward?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> And what is the age of this niece?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> 14.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> We see this as a very opportune age in which
to present the larger perspective of Universe Management, and particularly
Planetary Management through the long arc of solid thinking and of stable values
that underlie good decision-making. We
would advise you this way: You ask her
to examine the history of all human civilization—organized human
civilization—from the very first clans and tribes and nations that had a leader
and a hierarchy of decision-making and leadership. You will also note in telling her that all of
these have failed. Why is it that the
Incas are not here to greet you when we go to travel to South America? Why are not the Ancient Egyptians still
around for us to talk with them and ask them how they built the pyramids? All of these have failed; they have failed
because of not what they did, but what they did not do. And this is the enchanting and tantalizing
aspect that will cause curiosity in her young mind. It is not a factor of what people did wrong,
but what they did not do right; it was that they had too much power from the 4
primary values to support the sustainability of an aggressive nation to come to
dominate other nations. What was lacking
were the 3 secondary values that gave their leadership humanity, compassion,
care and mercy in the conduct of their decision-making and their behavior.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">To make it relevant to her, it is essential for her to
know that democracies as they exist today did not ever exist before. Yes, the Classical Greeks did have a form of
democracy, but that is almost irrelevant to the democratic processes that are
in place in most democratic nations today.
The same factor of history for failure of prior organizations, of
governments and cultures and societies, and so on—which includes huge dynasties
and empires—are at play today in your democratic process. Their great success has been based on the
innate 4 primary values to “make”—and that is an important word to understand,
to “make or force”—the current system to survive. However, those 4 values may be sufficient for
a species to survive, and even for a civilization to last for centuries, but
they are grossly insufficient to create a sustainable society and social
infrastructure of social institutions that contribute to the long-term social
sustainability of that nation. That is
one point.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The second point is that the leaders of good nations that
are functional socially, politically and economically come from the family
where the children are raised in functional ways, where there are two loving
parents who spend a great deal of time rearing and parenting those children
until they leave home, and care and sustain them when they can after they do
leave home. It is upon the family that
societies’ and nations’ success rise or fall.
It is important for her to know that she is one of the people who will
form the future for her children and grandchildren. What kind of family will
she have? Most of all, what is her
intention for life? What is her
intention as an individual? For her, the
future is much more open and accepting of her feminine nature than those of the
past. She is one who holds the 3
secondary values in her feminine nature, and as a future mother she will also
exhibit those same 4 primary values in sustaining the survival of her family
and of her children.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Yes, this is a lot to take in, but you have time and when
you spend time with her you will be able to convey many of these things. It is important now for you and your
relationship with her to create a relationship of curiosity, of wonderment and
questions. It is upon questions that the
future of your relationship and its success for her lies. She will become more curious as her mind
develops and as she thinks about these things that you have given her. To have her think in terms of a Planetary
Manager would be a grand step for her generation; it is something that she will
take forward with her in the papers that she writes and presents to her peers.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Thank you.
What about recommendations for her studies, what for life ambitions she
may have in the future, if there are any recommendations on how to advise on
those choices?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Yes, first of all, we advise her to think in
terms of a Liberal Arts academic future to become a generalist. This gives her a broad span of knowledge
about humanity, civilization and so on.
Then with that, she may want to continue on with her studies that are
specific to her particular talents, those things that she enjoys, those things
that she is good at, for it is not sufficient to just be a generalist in the
world, but she must also become a person who has specific skills and can
provide excellence in her area of expertise and her knowledge.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Thank you.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Prayer and Worship for
Machiventa</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz.</b> In all the Urantia Book study groups I’ve
attended, there always comes a time of a robust discussion about the difference
between prayer and worship. I’m sure you
have a lesson about that, but I am more interested in your personal experience,
your personal definition and distinction between prayer and worship.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Certainly.
By the way, Rayson has given you numerous lessons about this and made
those distinctions clear, at least for mortals.
(<b>Liz:</b> Thank you, I will look into that.) As for myself and my relationship to the
Divine, there is not so much prayer existent in my life as it is in mortals,
but more a time of repose and contemplation where I am at ease with the Being
of the Universe Thought Adjusters and those who are present here on this planet
to commune with me, and me with them. It
is of importance that this be given time and dedication on a regular
basis. Prayer, as you know, is a form of
talking to God, whereas meditation is a means of listening to God. When you have an evolved mind in the
morontial realm, a mind that has evolved through many, many hundreds of steps
during your morontial career, you become more and more of an open book. So too with Melchizedeks, that what I know,
others know and they are welcome to know if they have a need to know. And as the Divine Mind of God is present in
Thought Adjusters, that presence of God is intimate to myself that through this
connection, what I know. They know and
they know all. Therefore, when I sit in
contemplation and meditation I am open totally to the presence of Divine
instruction, and this is the difference in prayer and meditation for me. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As for worship, it is a personal and intimate
relationship I have with the Divine as I do to my personal relationship with
Christ Michael. It is one of adoration,
admiration, respect and a healthy awareness of the unity of all, as held
together by Christ Michael and the beings of the Universe Administration, the
Divine Beings of the Trinity in Paradise.
It is upon those moments that I have intimate contact with the
Divine. So you see that my presence,
openness to the Divine is very intimate and personal to me. It is a highly conscious, volitional activity
that I enjoy entering into. As I do not
have a Thought Adjuster, then I open to the Divine that is within Christ
Michael and Nebadonia and the Divine of the Trinity in Paradise. It is upon those moments that I receive, also
as you do, some of those tremendous “Ah-ha” moments of the mystics that you
have heard about. It is a pleasure to be
in that union with the Divine.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgiveness</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b> Thank you, that was very interesting. I have just one more question and that
is: I had a friend tell me one time
about a terrible thing that her daughter did to her, and I thoughtlessly said
to her, “You should just forgive and forget.”
And she said to me, “Well, I will never forget and I have no idea what
you mean when you say, ‘forgive.’” This
set me on a quest to learn a definition for myself about forgiveness and I have
found one that works for me, but it seems to only work for me. Could you please expound a little bit on
forgiveness?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> I, myself and my team, and all others will
heartedly be enjoying the fact that eventually you will have a searchable
database for questions as this, for it has been asked many times in the
past. The universal answer for
forgiveness is one that is completely applicable to humans on this planet — You
forgive, and forgive, and forgive, whether it is seven times, forty-nine times,
or four-hundred and ninety times, or 700 times.
You forgive until there is no more emotional energy left in the episode
which caused you to need to forgive. It
is the emotional energy that ties you to that event. If you continue to harbor resentment, hatred,
loathing and murderous thoughts then you surely have a lot of forgiving to
do. When you have eventually forgiven
that person earnestly, and asked for your Thought Adjuster’s assistance to do
so thoroughly and completely, then eventually in time as you continue to do
this with sincerity and earnestness and to persevere against the dark thoughts
of your small mind, then you will see that you will be a person who has
forgiven. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">It is not necessary to forget as these incidents are both
learning lessons both for you and for the other person; they are particularly
important to remember that as you mature past those episodes of hatred that
require forgiveness that you then become a real living teacher and mentor to
others who are going through the same process.
It is a method that the forgiveness continues until there is no more
energy, coloration or even an occasional thought about what occurred. It is as though that other individual who
hurt you or harmed you has become just another stranger on the street.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Liz:</b> Thank you for that, and I too welcome the day
when we will have a complete searchable database, although periodic reminders
such as this are a good thing for all of us.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Do we forgive those who
kill hundreds of innocent people?</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Rick:</b> I would like to add to Liz’s question, if I
might. I’d like to bring her excellent
question about forgiveness and forgetting into present day visceral life, and
I’d like to perhaps have a discussion on how we might forgive these people who
just killed almost 300 innocent people in Sri Lanka. Do we forgive them by letting them go? Do we forgive them by hunting them down and
bring the brunt of the law? How do we
forgive these people? I feel some real
anger towards these people who killed these innocents and I find it difficult
to find forgiveness in my heart for these people.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Thank you for your question. First there is no forgiveness in vengeance;
it only exacerbates and solidifies the justification for vengeance and for
destroying those who have destroyed others.
You have sunk to the same level as those individuals, and if a person is
self-righteous enough to think they have been forgiven in doing their
vengeance, then they are grossly and eternally mistaken. As for the forgiveness for those individuals
whom you have never met, who have caused such great destruction, it is a matter
of rising to the crisis of Jesus on the Cross, when he forgave those people
because they really did not know what they were doing. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">You know what you are doing in your life, so you would never
do those things. You would find no
justification in harming other people, thus you can forgive these people in the
same way: that they have not harmed you, but they have harmed your fellow brothers
and sisters in another nation. This is a
difficult thing to do. It is essential
that you rise also to the level of a Planetary Manager who does not necessarily
abide by what occurred and does not agree with what occurred, but sees that
this is evidence of the many foibles of humans who have not evolved in their
consciousness to come to love other people as they love themselves. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgiveness is an
intrinsic part of your evolving spirituality</span></u></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Learning how to forgive is essential for all people. If you personally were to become aware of all
the violence that was occurring in your nation against children, against women,
against neighbors, against friends, against those who are not seen either but
have been harmed by the pilfering and mismanagement of their money, you would
be near death at this moment for your grief for all the people that are around
you. It is not just those people across
the world that you grieve, because you know that others around you grieve as
well. Those in the city that you live in
also are grieving for their own situations for how they have been treated by
their societies, by their families, by their neighbors, by their friends, by
their enemies. Forgiveness is a very
intrinsic part of your evolving spirituality.
It is evidence of the understanding of the humanity of the aggressor. As you rise in your forgiveness, it is not
that you become numb to it; it is not that you become accepting of it as normal. It is simply of situations that are pervasive
across your world that you at this moment cannot do anything about, other than
to forgive them. It does not mean that
you accept what they are doing, or that you are cavalier about what is
occurring to other people, because it could happen to you as well. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">You forgive because it is part of your relationship with
your Thought Adjuster; it is part of your growth; it is part of your evolution;
it is part of your aspiring capability to rise to the level of that day of
fusion with your Thought Adjuster. Because
forgiving is Christ-like, it is necessary as Jesus forgave that you forgive others
as well. It is not that you are helpless
to do anything about it, because you are not.
You can be of assistance through your prayer; you can be of assistance
to raise the consciousness of the world around you, in your city, in your
family, in your neighbors and in your nation that you live in, and the
continents that you live in and the whole world. It is upon your consciousness that the future
of the world depends, and it depends upon the consciousness of all of the
people as well.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Rick:</b> Thank you for your answer.</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Forgive but also hold
people accountable for their actions</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> So, Machiventa, if you take this to the
ultimate extreme, we can talk about Christ Michael’s forgiveness for Caligastia
and Lucifer, and although in this particular case it was a succession of events
where those two would not repent, can you take us to the next step of giving
people that glorious action?</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Yes, certainly, and I thank you for your
question as it is an evolved part of our discussion. For those who have a continuing penchant to
be evil, to do harm to others, it is necessary to forgive them for their
nature, but also to hold them personally accountable. Christ Michael did forgive these individuals
and provided them with the means to bring themselves back into the fold of
Nebadon’s Local Universe. It is
essential that forgiveness be applied, and as well that remediation be
applied. This is the true proof of the
value of the soul that the individual carries with them and the potential contributions
that they can make to themselves, their society, their families and to their
world. Without remediation, without
education, without that thorough healing of the individual by themselves, they
cannot succeed and proceed. Those two
individuals did not accept the re-education program that was presented, so that
they could become part of the fold. This
is true acknowledgement that they were unforgiving of their own selves. They saw their egotism as supreme over all else
and succumbed to that by becoming non-existent.
You have within you to understand this yourself, as there are things in
the world you cannot control. It is
essential that those things that you do have an influence in be used to the
betterment of others, which gives you a greater maturity of your spirituality
and your personality. If you have
further question toward this, please ask them.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Thank you.
That’s good for me today.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">A question on the sun’s
magnetic field</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b> I have a question on a much lower level of thinking. There is an Astrophysicist named Katarina
Zharkova. She studies the sunlight and
sun’s magnetic field and recently she published what she said was a refereed
research on a formula that calculated change in the magnetic polarity of the
sun. She showed back study of her
methodology and claims that it has predictive value going forward. My first question, does your team think that
this is good science?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> One moment.
Be careful of your words. First
of all, the word “good” has a moral connotation to it. Is it bad science? In other words, is it moral science or is it
immoral science? Is it ethical science,
or is it unethical science? It is really
neither one. It is simply just
science. Now, I ask you to couch your
question in terms of “does it work?” And
I will leave that to you to ask again.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b> Thank you for helping me with that. Her claim is that we are—<span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> Urantia will enter in 2020 to a Grand
Solar Minimum (a recurring cycle about every 400 years).</span> Her claim is that this will cause a waning of
the sun from something like 5,000 K to 3,000 K and by 2025 or 2028 there will
be insufficient light to ripen grain. Is
this true?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> In regard to your Kelvin calculations, yes,
it is true. However, considering the
beginning of the changes in the dimming of the sun’s intensity that will have
to remain to be seen by you. In other
words, I am not going to give you a full and clear answer regarding your
question. I will, however, qualify that
by saying that the events of the sun are directly connected to the
overpopulation of your world and the conjunction, or the nexus of so many
vectors of influence upon this period of time in your world. Having said that, you can come to some
incomplete conclusions that yes, perhaps her calculations are correct. You cannot “take that to the bank,” as you
like to say, but you can rely upon that many factors are coming to bear upon
your world and its population to help your species survive, and the best
benefit of what has been accomplished will remain during and after these
cataclysmic events.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b> One question from a Planetary Management
standpoint. So if this woman’s theory is
come to be accepted on the cyclical nature of magnet fields, how should Urantia
plan for its return in 400 years, or is it too early to know that?</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> We have given you the long arc of success of
your species and it begins first by not having to think about geological,
geophysical or astrophysical problems and those developments, but to really get
a handle on your own anger management as a species. Those are simple and direct words. The means for the future 400 years will be
determined by the balancing of the masculine/feminine characters and the
characteristics and traits and use of all 7 values in decision-making. In 400 years your civilization may not even
exist if it continues as it does now. It
must come to some conclusions about decision-making that are helpful to those
who do remain. It is not necessarily
what the after-geophysical/astrophysical conditions present that may threaten
your survival as a species, but what is involved in your decision-making under
those to make sound decisions that insure the survival of your
species and the health and welfare and functionality of families and societies. That is the greater situation that must be
dealt with, and that must begin now and that is why we have presented you with
the 7 innate values of your Homo sapiens species.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b> So, is there anything other than what we are
doing promoting the 7 core values? Is
there any other positive action that we can take at this time?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> That would be enough work for you to do for
now.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Jeff:</b> Thank you.</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Need for a searchable
database for UB and transcripts</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Machiventa, you’ve mentioned several times
now this searchable database concept. I am amazed that we can ask Google any
questions and always get some sort of meaningful answers on general subjects. I
am wondering if the tools are available today to do that with our own database?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> And you say, “Our own database.” What would that be?</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> I’m thinking the <i>Urantia Book</i> combined with all the transcripts from Northern
Colorado and Teaching Mission in general as a single searchable database where
people could ask questions and get answers related to all the previous
transcripts and data available.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Your question already has an impending
answer. It is our awareness that several
individuals who have been long-term members of the Teaching Mission,
Magisterial Mission and the <i>Urantia Book</i>
databases have already begun to establish a web site and is even now in the
process of initiating and then activating a searchable database process. There is one, Jim Cleveland, who has taken on
the responsibility of doing that. We
have tried to enthuse others in the past to take on this task, but those who
tried had insufficient or were innocent of awareness of technologies and
working relationships with others to bring this into full agreement. This database is of high interest to us and
we have been deeply involved in it, simply because it is cross-ideological. It will include the <i>Urantia Book</i>, the Teaching Mission, Magisterial Mission transcripts
primarily, and the other related materials that relate to this era of
revelation through channeling. This has
been unacceptable to Urantia Book Fundamentalists and they have not included
these new revelations in their database that is highly searchable. So yes, we have begun and those who wish to
support this project are asked to come forward to assist in that program.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Thank you.</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The definition of a
functional society</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b> I’m seeing that we have all kinds of various
problems today, so what we are trying to do here is set up conditions to evolve
to where these problems are not going to occur, or that they will occur much
less frequently and less readily because we will have set up a society that
doesn’t nip the problems at the root, but actually is set up so that these
problems don’t occur in the first place.
I guess that’s just a statement.
Do you tend to agree with that?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> We agree highly with that. That is the definition of a functional
society, one that has the internal processes that accept that variations in the
conduct of society that will occur and that there are inherent internal
processes that will resolve those. The
nature of the concept of a functional organization, whether it is a society, a
government or any other organization is that they become functional; they
become an operational holism that includes, that sees the problems ahead, that
sees variations as opportunities for improvement of the current operation. There is always a curiosity about what is “out
there.” You have awareness of the <i>Star Trek Series</i> where they would send
out probes to fathom the depths of the local area ahead for light-years, and
then report back. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">This is what really functional organizations do,
particularly governments and large scale organizations, is that they always
want to become aware of the holism around them, not just those issues which are
specific to their interest, but those that affect all of society as well. <i>The
missing element for a truly functional democratic government</i> is that it
seeks the input of those who are governed; it includes them more often than
just once every two years at election time.
Doing so, there is an understanding of social change as an ongoing
process of every society and that it is important to keep the finger on the
pulse of those changes, then to adapt, not just to survive—the organization or
the hierarchy—but to continue the functionality and the cooperative nature of
the whole society.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Lack of hierarchy in
design teams</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b> We’ve been talking before about social
sustainability design teams, and we now have sort of a broader picture of that,
that there may be a whole hierarchy of social sustainability design teams that
one may pass up their findings or designs from a base discussion level up
through larger community levels combining the findings of different teams. So there are two questions related to that. The first one, is there some sort of means by
which we are going to decide who becomes the higher level team, or is that just
something that will develop on its own?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> No, that is not a decision-making
process. It is not like electing people
and campaigning and being someone’s favorite.
The hierarchy only develops as a necessary functional element of the
overall process. It is not that ideas
are passed up from one team to another, but that there is a means by which all
the teams can be assessed for their conclusions, and that what is found is a
consensus of concern among all the design teams for a particular problem. As you can see there could be a number of
ways to generate discussions in teams about these problems. One is that they could be generated
independently within a team by itself and that they can originate problems to discuss
and develop solutions. Another way could
be that there would be through the network of all the teams, a broadcast of a
problem that other teams may want to consider and want to make their own
conclusions and share those. Eventually
it would be necessary to have somebody who would collect the information from
all the teams to share those conclusions or those findings with all the teams
without making any decisions. It would
be a facilitative, coordinative function to assist the teams to come to a
consensus among, let us say a population of over a million people. This would have significance to each team and
to whole nations. Does this help?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">How to begin forming a
design team</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b> Yes, thank you very much. And the other question was that in beginning
to form teams, or a team, that I think it was mentioned recently that you don’t
want to start by this whole grand scheme.
You just want to say, “Hey, anybody want to get together and talk about
this problem?” So I guess in the
beginning stages it would be easier to attract people just by saying, “Let’s
talk about this problem.” Is that a good
approach?</p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </p>
<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Yes, that is a variation of an approach for starting. The other is for, let us say, yourself as the
originator or the initiator to be aware of a problem that you thought was
common to people on the island where you live, and so you would want to gain a
broader knowledge or to validate whether your perceptions are correct or not,
and you would ask a number of people whether that is part of their thinking as
well, that it is a problem. If your find
some concurrence, or you find that consistently people talk about another
problem that you had not thought of, then you offer the option to them that
maybe they would be willing to participate in a team process to come up with
some possible solutions, and they would either say yes or no, and that begins
the start of your potential team. Do you
have questions further?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Craig:</b> That’s all I can think of at the moment. Thank you.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Getting institutions to
make foresightful plans</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b> How do we get farmers, water and wastewater
institutions and electrical institutions to make foresightful plans before the
cataclysms, since we can’t talk about revelations of the cataclysms beforehand
without causing fear?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> You too, have a similar situation with the
questions of Craig. You have the
awareness of these institutions having concerns. They are each individually very concerned
about their continued sustainability, their survival in existence into the
future. Now the crossroads, the nexus of
them, what other problems do they have in common to each of these institutions
or these venues. It is important that they
come to the joint awareness that they have a common problem that they need to
resolve. As you realize and know that
there are so many problems that are existent in the social and cultural infrastructure
of this nation and many other nations that they are struck with solving the
problems of today, their concerns are more immediate than later. You want to find problems that are common to
all of them and suggest that they too may want to coordinate their solutions to
assist each other. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The processes of finding solutions, or solution-finding,
or creating solutions is essential to all of these organizations and
institutions. They would have an
interest in a common methodology for problem solution and solution
creation. The aspect of coming cataclysms
will not be apparent to them, though any large organization should have an advanced
thought-group or “think tank” within their organization to foresee
probabilities of what may occur in the future.
If they do not, then even as individuals they would want to become aware
of future potentials that could arise.
The aspect of total elimination of a large segment of a national
population is usually out of the thought range of most people. I know that I have not given you a
thoroughgoing answer to your question, but this is the option at this time.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">You can be assured that we will be available to answer
questions as the intensity of these cataclysms mount. You have begun to see now widespread multiple
tornadoes occurring in sections of the nations, that at one time, as reported on
your news, that 19 tornadoes were occurring simultaneously across a region of
the nation. This is purely unheard of in
the past, and you can be assured that it will get worse.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Roxie:</b> Thank you.
I will continue to give this some thought.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">The impact of elections on
our political system</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>Stéphane:</b> Machiventa, I have a question on the age of information
and its impact on our political system.
The readiness information availability seems to have a huge impact on
the electorates and their ability to see through what government is doing. This
is creating changes such as, every time there is an election, there seems to be
a radical change that comes to play. The
electorate seems to be angry at what they are finding out and acting to elect
governments more to the right than center.
As this information age unfolds, what needs to happen in order for the
pendulum to switch the other way towards the left, towards electing more caring
governments for society?</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> Your question is one that we have been in the
process of answering for three decades, and that is to have a more rational
view of the world shared with everyone.
Your question discloses a trend that is part of that pendulum. We have no immediate resolution for that
pendulum swing. You will see that the electorate
has brought about some of the current leaders that have moved to the right,
will in some nations become even stronger, and that it will cause a continuing
backlash from those individuals who have more liberal points of view, those
individuals who have more insight into the broad scope of societal management
and functionality. There are several
influences which we have brought to bear and are continuing to bear upon to
change, to affect that disturbing trend.
</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">One is the Internet, and within that you see a disturbing
trend of social media to be manipulated by individuals and groups of
individuals for their own ends. This
will need to be neutralized. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Second is the continuing development of an evolved, more
highly functional form of democracy that uses the best traits of existing
democratic process in nations, and yet leverages those to a greater and
heightened effectiveness for more functional decision-making on the part of
leadership. This eventually will have a
change in the polarized politics in congresses and parliaments and councils,
and so on. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The third is the change that we have introduced through
social sustainability, which cannot occur unless decision-making includes the 7
values to underlie all the major decisions that are made in a society at all
levels and all functions in that society.
</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">These three major changes are fundamental to a long-term
cultural change. To change the whole
culture of nations from a masculine aggressiveness using the 4 primary values
to a much more balanced society using the masculine and the feminine, and the
feminine in the form of the 3 secondary values.
</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">No society will last
unless it incorporates all 7 values</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">No society will ever last indefinitely unless it
incorporates all 7 values into its decision-making. As we have said before and have said during
this session today, is not so much what caused the failure of all civilizations
and societies in the past, but what they did not do to sustain their success
into a far-reaching and thriving future.
Therefore, what we have begun is to give you a new value structure, a
new democratic process that is more resilient, adaptable and based on the needs
of electorate. Thank you for your
question.</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[<b>Daniel:</b> I’m getting a little
groggy. Let’s call it a quits for
today. I’m whipped, or something. Let me speak with Machiventa for a moment.]</p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">A crucial generation for
making adaptations to society</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><b>MACHIVENTA:</b> If I may take advantage of my authority, let
us bring this session to a close today.
First of all, you are not left alone.
We have “your back,” as you would say today. We are there to protect you, even in spite of
some of your decisions that you make personally and the decisions that are made
by authority groups and whole governments.
We are there to support you in a means that brings about more social,
political and economic stability for your children, grandchildren and all
future generations. You are the crucial
generation who are assisting us to make those adaptations to your society, make
your societal processes more functional, more adaptable and more
survivable. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">It takes courage to
introduce these concepts</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">It is not an easy task; when you see the wholesale
slaughter of hundreds of people in a city in a foreign country across the world
and your heart goes out to that, it seems as though our efforts today are
short, that they are insufficient and grossly inadequate. However, for the function of a surviving
planet, what we are doing today will take hold within this next generation. Without you being able and having the courage
to stand up and dance in the grass to music far away when others around you
think you are out of your mind, you are the first to do that. It is then at that moment when the second
person, who stands up and dances, too, really gives authority and permission to
all others to follow. It takes courage
to introduce these concepts to organizations, and we suggest that you do so
gently and cautiously, though introducing these ideas so that they will be
integrated into the processes of your organization. It is obvious that what has been happening in
your world simply does not work. It is
one failure after another; it is preparing for more failures into the future. That is why we are here to throw you a life ring
to draw you into safe harbor, to bring you on deck and keep you safe. You must of course, grab onto that safety
ring and we will pull the rope that will bring you both onto the ship. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Your survival is paramount
to Nebadon</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Your survival as a society and as a nation, as a
civilization is paramount to the concerns of all Planetary Managers across
Nebadon. That is no small awareness;
they wish the very best for us, and they have sent some of their best spiritual
children, teachers, and students to be of assistance here with you on this planet
now. We ask you to grab onto this safety
ring, this survival ring and we will pull you home. Though this is a crude metaphor, and that it
is not much of a safety ring for millions of you, it is nonetheless that you,
the first ones, see the ring in the water to grab it, that others will see it
as well. Eventually, your children will
learn about what survives and what does not; what works and what does not work,
and these children will become the leaders of your nations when you are in your
elder years. </p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u><span style="color:rgb(0,112,192)">Your chore is to train,
tutor and mentor young children</span></u></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Your chore now is to begin to teach, train, tutor, and
mentor these young children in ways that does not offend or send them away from
you, but shows them a way forward to assist them as they grow older into their
maturity, and as they face and confront the realities of the world around
them. Leaving home is one, going off to
be on your own, even to college, is another, and then starting your family and
being dependent upon your own living wage to sustain your family and your
children is another. Children today, who
are at the ages you have mentioned are deeply concerned about their roles as an
individual to become a parent, who becomes a worker, who leaves home, who
starts a career. How do you do
that? What works and what does not? They need to know that. We give you thanks for your sharing and
mentoring these children today. Good
day. </p>
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