[tmtranscripts] Re: [tml] S.E. Idaho 11th anniversary transcript 1-10-03

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     Daniel & Company,
     Great meeting, great message, great friends.
     Happy Anniversary.    Thank you.
     Agondonter Gerdean


> The Teachings of Daniel
>                                                       Part 12
> 
>     
> S. E. Idaho TeaM
> 1-10-03
> 
> Daniel(Bill): Gracious God and Father, we lift our hearts to You that our
> minds may conform to the joy and the serenity which emanate from Your mind.
> We worship You in spirit and in truth and know that You are leading us
> homeward every day of our ascension career.  For these, my wonderful
> students, I thank You that they and we are united in this quest of divine
> ascension and perfection.  On this anniversary night may they cherish the
> progress that they have made and pledge anew to continue with vigor, with
> optimism, and with fortitude the journey that we are all a part of.  Let
> their hearts be light and their spirits bright with hope, with faith, and
> with love.  In the name and in the Spirit of Michael of Nebadon, Jesus of
> Nazareth, we pray. Amen.
> 
> Greetings, I am Daniel, your teacher, your guide, your friend, and your
> most joyous companion on this anniversary celebration evening!  Indeed, my
> dears, it has been eleven years that we have been associated together.  As
> I review, through the mind of Isaac, the transcript of our first meeting I
> see that my intention has been fulfilled and that you have proved to be
> most satisfying companions on this journey together.
> 
> You are no longer seedlings, my friends.  You are growing into strong oaks.
> Your branches are thickening.  Your leaves are profusely expressing
> themselves in all seasons and unlike the literal oak your beauty does not
> go into recess one season a year, but manifests in gorgeous colors at all
> times.  Your branches will provide  shelter and succor for the birds of the
> air.  Your beauty will enhance the landscape for all those who pass by.
> 
> You say, "Daniel, what's all this flowery language"?  And I reply, "I feel
> poetic tonight, my friends.  I am in a celebrative mood"!  I am feeling so
> pleased that I have been your teacher for these eleven years. And no one
> has given me a return ticket to Jerusum.  (Laughter) So, I am on the docket
> for an indefinite time.
> 
> I want you to consider how you now are at ease and totally comfortable
> communicating with those that you cannot see, with the celestial realm.  No
> longer do you prostate your minds in awe that you hear from us.  Indeed, at
> times, some of you even become somewhat critical of our
> commentary,(Laughter) which is not a problem for us, at all.(More laughter) 
>  
> 
> Ken: Are you saying, Daniel, that we doubt the words of the Most High
> Observer?  Joking, when I say that.
> (Much laughter and comments.)
> 
> Daniel: No, Ken, I am saying that you are comfortable enough and feel on an
> equal enough basis, even though your are not in the position of Vorondadek
> Sons, to interact as you would with a colleague when you don't totally
> understand, or wish that more could be said.  Doubt possibly enters into
> some of your hearts at times.  But it mostly centers in your own self
> estimate rather than criticism of celestial personalities.  
> 
> So, to continue, I wish you to think back to the distance you have traveled
> in eleven years.  This might be a poor analogy but I would suggest that you
> were like the native peoples of this continent when they encountered the
> "white man" and were in awe with a sense of mystery regarding these
> strangers.  After a period of time they became quite companionable before
> they became hostile to each other.  I don't expect you people to become
> hostile to us.  That's why the analogy is imperfect.  In other words, you
> are on familiar terms with us now.
> 
> I also observe that because of this fact you are not as overflowing with
> curiosity questions in regard to the teachers as you used to be. By
> assuming the role of teachers to each other, questions are being handled
> beautifully among yourselves.  I hope you will concur with my observations.
> (Group agrees)
> 
> Now concerning our esteemed Vorondadek Observer, your assessment that he
> was not in a teaching role primarily, only indirectly, is correct.  He was
> reporting, but in such a way as to present a different perspective, the
> perspective of over-control, supervision, administration, and many other
> aspects of the relationship of the celestial realm to the material realm.
> In your list of over-control functions please be sure to include the
> effects of teaching which has come to you through the mission, and
> ultimately the effects of your own understanding which comes to you from
> you indwelling Mystery Monitor.    Also, add to your list that the circuits
> of this planet are being re-connected and more spiritual pressure,
> information, and personalities are being added to this plane.  
> 
> Yes, it remains a fact that none of us can violate free will, and you are
> pretty clear about this now.  Yet as I listened to our Observer last week I
> agreed that over-control is pretty mysterious being only fully understood
> by the Supreme and the members of the Paradise Trinity.  Even we morontia
> personalities are very limited in our understanding of how it works.  We
> are under supervision and take assignments from our superiors.  But that
> doesn't mean we understand everything that is going on.  Much more skilled
> are the angelic corps for they are mathematical geniuses.  They are able to
> understand the interactions of things in an instantaneous fashion whereas
> we take much longer to grasp the probabilities, etc.  The angels are even
> more efficient than your fastest supercomputers.
> 
> In addition to becoming familiar with us, a definite milestone of eleven
> years, I cite also your individual spiritual progress.  The full
> understanding of this progress is not easy for you to grasp.  We have used
> the picture of mountain climbing as an analogy of spiritual progress in
> past lessons; and one of the benefits of mountain climbing is the enhanced
> view as you ascend the mountain.  So as you look at your spiritual
> progress, consider how your mind has broadened, as one measure.  Another
> measure would be how much time you spend in pondering spiritual reality,
> including prayer and worship. And another measure would be how much more
> your are interested in true service to one another, your brothers and
> sisters.  These are all categories of growth.  
> 
> A third milestone is your group progress, the natural human cementing which
> goes on as a result of trusting each other and getting past your
> differences of opinion because you are focusing on common goals.  Is it not
> true that your desire to do the will of God, individually, has resulted in
> your desire to be a community of Light and Life, one of many, yes, but
> still a community of Light and Life?  The way your treat each other is
> ideal, for the most part.  You respect each other; you listen to each
> other; you support each other; you joke around with each other in a
> comfortable manner.  For the most part you are not paranoid, critical,
> judgmental, angry, fearful, or withdrawn from each other.  I am not saying
> that you have arrived at perfection, because none of us have, and will not
> do so until we have gone all the way through the myriad spheres of Havona
> and reached Paradise as residents.  
> 
> The other side of an anniversary is to look forward.  What will our next
> year together bring?  We all ponder this, including me.  We don't know what
> life on this planet will be like this coming year.  All indications from
> the fear mongers suggest that it will be bad.  But they don't know how God
> the Supreme will engage in His over control, any more than we do.  We do
> know that all that meets the eye isn't all there is.  There is the
> planetary administration.  We know of the reality of the indwelling
> Presence of the Father, and the indwelling Presence of the Spirit of Truth
> of the Son, and of the ministry of the Mother Spirit through Her many
> cohorts and universe daughters.  In the Old Testament there is a passage in
> which the prophet explained to the king that the armies that were on his
> side were greater than those adversaries he could see and prayed that the
> king might see for a moment the invisible armies of God, which he did.  So
> for you and for us, let's keep that vision of support as a constant,
> assured, and settled matter of fact and source of faith.  
> 
> Part of the problem of wanting predictions is a subtle belief that there is
> a deterministic play being wrought upon the stage of life, so that if we
> could have access to the film strip, the sequence of events, we would know
> what is going to happen down the road.  But life is not simply a
> deterministic scene.  The best that can be done in terms of prediction are
> probabilities; and they are subject to vast error measurement.  This is
> completely true on an individual level.  It is not so true as you go to
> larger and larger units as the over control dimension interacts with the
> probabilities and the result is that at higher and higher levels the over
> control determines the outcome.  Human free will, resulting in error and
> sin, does not prevent the completion of Supremacy, but merely delays it.
> Even though we are thinking only of one year of time in our next
> anniversary sequence, it is also true that we have all the time that we
> need, as long as we keep facing forward in the direction of our goal.  
> 
> In past years there have been addresses by numerous personalities at our
> anniversary meetings.  This year we have decided that we want to hear from
> you.  I am bringing my homily to a conclusion so that you might share your
> thoughts and feelings about this anniversary, your past and your future.
> The floor is now yours.
> 
> LaReen: Daniel, I was just thinking that I have come up to the top of this
> beautiful mountain with this beautiful fire and how much I love everyone in
> this room and how I miss them when I am gone.  They are more family than my
> [natural] family, because I can be myself with them.  I can be open and
> talk about anything spiritual or anything political, well some of them.
> (Laughter).  But it feels so natural to be in this classroom with this
> group.  When I first started with the Teaching Mission I was uncomfortable.
> I always felt like I didn't fit in.  That's the big difference for me.  I
> just don't know what I would do without these people.  
> 
> Daniel: So you have found your true family....
> 
> LaReen: Yes.
> 
> Daniel: ...and I sense a profound joy in that experience.
> 
> LaReen: Very much so!
> 
> Daniel: Thank you, LaReen, for sharing this part of your soul.  I am sure
> you speak for others, as well.
> 
> Virginia: As LaReen was talking I thought of the book I am reading
> [Authentic Happiness by Martin Seligman] and the contrast between pleasure
> and gratification.  What she was expressing was the deeper experience of
> gratification rather than pleasure, for pleasure is temporary and we have
> different groups where we have pleasure.  But the things she described are
> things we can hang on to and have real gratitude, gratification from the
> experience.  The time goes quickly.  I think that is the difference between
> pleasure and gratification.  I think that it is necessary to mention that
> the big thing I am experiencing more and more is the lesson that Klarixiska
> keeps giving me about cleaning up the corners and getting rid of the
> cobwebs.  It seem like (laughing) every time I think I got one gone, here
> comes another one!  I clean that up and make amends and in another corner
> there is a bigger one!  But as Klarixiska says, all the work we do now will
> only help us reach Paradise sooner.  That is our quest and our goal.  I am
> very grateful for the spiritual kicks to move forward I have had as a
> result of the Teaching Mission.  (Laughter)
> 
> Daniel: So, Virginia, you are saying that for you this past eleven years
> have been a time of growing gratification and the difficult task of
> transformation, the transforming of your mind by the cleaning of the
> cobwebs in the corners of the secret recesses of your heart.
> 
> Virginia.  Yes.  I have got to say one more thing.  I am doing things I
> would have never thought I could have done years ago.  That is being
> comfortable around adults and teaching workshops with teenagers.  It just
> blows my mind that I am this brave coward that has emerged from somewhere.
> (Laughter)
> 
> Daniel: So all your hard work in sweeping the corners has not simply been
> hard work.  It is resulting in gratifying personality expansion,
> specifically with regard to your status as a worthwhile, competent, and
> loveable individual among your peers.
> 
> Virginia: Thank you!
> 
> Daniel: I see all of you moving in that direction and becoming more
> convinced that you really are valuable sons and daughters of the Living
> God.  Others, who wish to share?
> 
> Bob S.: I would like to say, thank you, Daniel, for this opportunity to
> think about our progress.  I tend to be one who doesn't dwell on ceremony
> nor emphasize anniversaries, those kind of things.  But, I think in this
> case I want to thank you for this because it's allowed me to see more
> clearly how the world is getting better slowly.  As you deal with the world
> situations that we are in now it's easy to be overwhelmed by that.  I think
> we only have to pause and think about how we have changed as individuals,
> and because of that see more clearly what is happening out in the real
> world.  Because of that it makes us feel better, I think.  The other side
> of that coin is, the more we grow, the clearer we see and the more problems
> we see out there(laughing) that we have to deal with, like Virginia was
> talking about and you see the world more clearly as well.  But I think we
> can more effectively put worries aside or in perspective and feel better
> about the whole situation when you, and others,  have helped us deal with
> this; when we take what you have said and make it part of our thought
> process.  So, thank you.
> 
> Daniel: Thank you, Bob, for sharing some optimism, some hope, and some
> transformation.  You have described it as personal and attributed it to
> others, as well.  Yes, it is gratifying for us, teachers, to be told that
> our teaching has had some positive effect that you can consciously grab a
> hold of.  That way you aren't left in the position of having to take our
> word for it that you are growing, but you can clearly point to areas in
> which your perspective has been altered or your behavior has been uplifted.
> Others who wish to share?
> 
> Ken: Yes, Daniel, I will.  You asked about the past and you asked about the
> future.  I would like to say that I am glad and fortunate that you were
> given a one way ticket here, no return ticket.  In the past you came; in
> the future you will be here.  For that I am grateful.  I am also grateful
> for my personal teacher, Larenzo.  He has been with me.  He has touched me.
> He tells me that I have listened to him.  What has happened in the past I
> expect to happen in the future, also, the same one word....change.  I will
> continue to grow.  I grew in the past, and I expect to grow in the future.
> Thank you, Daniel.  Thank you, Larenzo.  Thank you, Father.
> 
> Daniel: Well spoken, Kenneth.  Amidst the certain change there is the
> stability of your decision to follow the guidance of your Mystery Monitor,
> to listen to the guidance of your teacher, and to attend and participate in
> this classroom, as well as many other things.  So, while change is
> inevitable, so is progress when that kind of commitment is present in a
> mortal will.  Thank you for your words, as well.  
> 
> Are there others who would care to comment on their perspective upon the
> past and/or their goals or perspective on the future?  (Joking) This is not
> an Aaron exercise, friends,
> 
> Ken: It sure sounded like it.
> 
> Daniel: ...it is just an opportunity to get your licks in; to share your
> heart.  Or you may ask any questions you wish to about the topic tonight,
> if you have them.  
> 
> Lori: Well, I would like to say thank you, Daniel, and all the teachers,
> and Altern.  When I think of the past with being introduced to the group, I
> had no clue.  Since that time every Friday that I have come it has been
> steady, small confirmation within myself.  I can be in the worst mood, and
> come here and it completely dissolves away and I leave with clarity and
> direction...two things I didn't know near as much about in the past and
> things that I intend to know more about in the future!  And this group as a
> whole, these wonderful people are the ideal group.  You are all like my
> best friends, my big brothers and sister, my aunts and uncles, and my
> parents, all rolled into one!  (Laughter) I can't thank you enough for
> being you and I really feel like I have grown so much in every way, and it
> is also interconnected.  You will never know how much you have helped me
> and how you are all a very integral part of what I do: my work; parenting;
> marriage; getting along with my parents; all of it.  Well, thank you...all
> of you and all of you [celestials].
> 
> Daniel: Thank you for your lovely words of encouragement and truth!  I
> sense that each of you resonates to the things that Lori has said, as you
> have benefitted and shared and become truly a family together.
> 
> When we say that this is a Light and Life experience, we do not use those
> words lightly!  We are telling you that this is the way life is on a planet
> which has normally evolved, where all the horrors of rebellion are unknown
> and most of the handicaps of evolution have been overcome.  There are
> worlds whose people relate to each other as you do.  Wouldn't that be an
> amazing experience on this planet?  And yet, as Carol pointed out several
> weeks ago, when the season of Christmas comes many people transcend
> themselves and move into a temporary consciousness state that is
> approximate to an early stage of Light and Life.  This shows that at your
> stage of evolution you are close enough to the beginning stages of Light
> and Life to be able to do that.  If you were all as barbaric as the bad
> news on the media presentations suggest, you could not envision such a jump
> from barbarism to altruism.  Consequently, my friends, it is true that your
> world is progressing and the barbarism of hatred and war, sexism, racism
> and all the other isms are becoming very repugnant to the more elevated
> levels of societies, whatever their racial, ethnic or national
> identification.  This does tell us that progress is being made.  Before
> change for correction can occur, we have to identify the problems.  A lower
> level is indicated by no awareness of the problems, as Bob pointed out.  As
> you become more spiritually advanced then you can see more of what needs to
> be transformed.  Well, you can ponder this as I have talked about this
> issue before.  I don't mean to get back into my lecture mode.  Please
> continue for there are several of you who haven't spoken.  If you
> desire.....I wish to persist and allow you all to complete your sharing.
> 
> Carol: Daniel, I want to thank you for the very poetic beginning to your
> anniversary speech tonight.  I thought it was beautiful.  I felt very much
> a part of the tree and branches.  I thought it was wonderful.  Thank you.
> I feel very much an infant in this group.  I feel that probably I am just
> beginning and need a lot more time and work before I can say that I am even
> progressing very much.  But I am hopeful that I will be able to (words lost
> in microphone noise)
> 
> Daniel: My dear Carol, thank you for your sharing.  Thank you for
> bolstering my poetic feelings.  Let me assure you that I understand how you
> feel as the newest member of this group.  However, I put a different
> assessment on your progress than you seem to feel.  You are, in my opinion,
> progressing as quickly as you could, given the circumstances of your life
> to this point.  Do not feel discouraged or belittle your progress simply
> because you were not with us from the beginning.  Everyone moves at a
> different rate of progress in different areas according to their individual
> needs.  My impression of you is that your willingness is one hundred
> percent in the direction of progress.  I am pleased to have you as a member
> of this group.
> 
> Now, there is a last call for one who might have a burning desire.
> Otherwise we will conclude.  
> 
> Bob D.  Personally I have been going through my own affairs of dealing with
> the children and haven't been able to spend as much time on spiritual
> topics and philosophical thought as I used to be able to spend.  It is
> quite a struggle.  My wife even sees me saying that I want to do this and
> want to do this; and by the time I have time to do it I am so tired that I
> just want to close my eyes and go to bed.  So lately I have been carving
> out time, the last couple of months, to spend in stillness, prayer and
> reflecting about all these things.  I have started to receive a few
> pertinent messages, I am sure you are aware of, that have been just getting
> into a slight process.  But I still feel a little disjointed.  I am not
> quite in the flow of where I want to be.  The other night I just took a
> moment to sit down and write these thoughts that are just on the edge of my
> mind for a long time because I don't know what I really feel about this
> mission.  So what came out is what came out in the e-mail.  It actually
> took two and a half hours to write and I went to bed at twelve thirty,
> which killed me the next day.  But I didn't stop once I started.  
> 
> So, really the perspective is that the Teaching Mission is for everybody.
> A lot of times we lose sight when we are interacting on line.  We are
> interacting not only as individuals, but as groups with other groups.
> There are so many differences and purposes and differences in perspectives
> that we clashes there about ideas, beliefs.  The realization that I was
> coming to for myself was that it isn't really about the beliefs so much as
> it is about the.....If we want to be a community we must almost set aside
> beliefs for the higher purpose of finding God; and recognizing that
> everyone is on that path of finding God.  You don't have to sit there and
> say, "Well, this guy is wrong here and this guy is wrong here".  We are
> commonly searching together, yet we still have differences.  I guess that's
> where I am coming from in my thoughts.
> 
> Daniel: I would like to reply to you.  You are really engaged in family
> building at two levels, Bob.  One, the primary or family level of your wife
> and children, which is by the way, one of the most spiritual efforts that
> you can do as a mortal.  It is hardly less than a spiritual endeavor.
> (Bob: I know that! It doesn't seem quite as fun as the ....) The other
> family building is your desire to keep the family feeling in the Teaching
> Mission, rather than deteriorating into philosophical battles between armed
> camps of thought.  You are, and have always been, one who desires to
> reconcile and unify divergences in the goal of moving forward in the
> ascension.  So I thank you for that contribution this evening.  
> 
> Bob D.: Can I ask you another question, though?
> 
> Daniel: Please.
> 
> Bob D.: I had a prior question in reading transcripts that I have been
> going through.  There has been an idea of possibly publishing, so I have
> been organizing all the transcripts that I have done over the years.
> Mostly Aaron, but there were a couple from you before I moved to Pocatello.
> You had a couple of conversations with a friend of mine named Ann and in
> reading them I was so blown away by the way you interacted with this
> person.  I just want to know your perspective on: First, sharing those in a
> publication that would be sold for money.  I know the money element isn't
> really the issue, but I also want to find out what your perspective is on
> that.  I go back and forth.  I see positive aspects of publication and then
> there is the potential negative.  So I have always been wishey washey on
> whether to publish or not.  I just want to know if I can share these
> transmissions of a friend.  She agreed to it, but I want to ask you along
> with other transcripts.  The second
> question is what you feel about publications in general.
> 
> Daniel: The biggest consideration, permission on the part of Ann to have
> her words with me made public, you have already taken care of.  This will
> allow that for the purpose of edification and help for other people. If you
> judge anything to be appropriately confidential, then I trust your
> judgment.  Obviously, this possible book on the teachings of Aaron would
> not be published for the purpose of making money primarily or for crass
> entertainment, but would be for spiritual purposes.  Correct.  (Yes)
> 
> As far as publication, there have been other teachers who have received
> publication status as you know: Tomas, Will... and I am quite okay with
> sharing a part with Aaron, since Aaron is willing also.  Does that answer
> your questions? 
> 
> Bob D.: Yes, it does.  Just for clarification I wanted to know for sure
> before pursuing that angle, so, thank you.
> 
> Daniel: Of course we don't have what you would consider to be "ego
> involvement"in this.  We see the whole universe picture.  Sharing
> information with other people in order to lift them up is the universe
> education process.  So, based on that, we have to say that we are in favor
> of every noble and appropriate way of doing that.  
> 
> Well, my dears, this has been a delightful night.  Is there anyone who
> wants to make a last comment?  Otherwise Aaron has requested that Bob TR in
> prayer if he is willing.  (Group commentary)
> 
> Aaron(Bob D.)  Indeed, I am here and I would give you my congratulations
> for your strong efforts as a group over these years, working through your
> comprehension and understanding of our words; learning through struggles;
> and keeping mind and will toward the purpose of becoming more like your
> Father in Heaven.  Tonight, let us pray to the Source of our seeking.
> 
> Dear Father, grant us understanding of Your will.  Shine forth Your pattern
> of destiny for these friends of mine in each of their hearts.  Show us the
> beauty that is possible when together we set our minds and wills toward
> Yours to do those things which will enhance understanding of the cosmic
> family which you have formed.  Amen.
> 


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