[tmtranscripts] Arcadia, August 8, 2005

[Larry Whelan]

Arcadia Teaching Mission 
Group 
PR
Arcadia, California, U. S. A.

Teacher: JarEl

Transmitter/Receiver: George Benavides

Guests: Chita Nonde and Namukale Kitawanda, students & Urantia Book readers 
from Zambia.
               Professor Moussa N'Diaye, French speaking Moslem, Teacher & 
Urantia Book reader from Senegal.
              Jean Pierre Houtier, from Texas who came to translate 
Moussa's lessons into English at a class that
              Moussa gave on Saturday and Sunday.

Topic:  JarEl:
             What is needed for the coming of the Age of Light and Life?
             Question on financial security?
             What can we do to put an end to these wars?

Guest:
             Moussa congratulates JarEl.
             How can we establish a dialog with the people in our community 
of the Islamic faith?
             Does Moussa have any writings on his teachings?
             Chita found The Urantia Book in a library in Zambia which 
Norman Igram had placed.
             What do you see as the biggest challenges in a spiritual sense 
in Zambia?

Monday, August 8, 2005, 7:45 pm

Prayer:

Norman: Gracious Heavenly Father we thank you tonight that you brought us 
all together.  We thank you for the last few days for the workshop that 
Moussa has brought to us about deeper spiritual realities.  We thank you 
for him be here and the love that you show through him, he is truly a man 
of God.  We thank you for his teachings and that the truth of his teaching 
shall grow in our hearts. We thank you for all that has taken place and we 
thank you for Chita and Namukale that they have come to join us from their 
homes so far away.  We pray that we may all become closer and that we may 
further your work and help to build your kingdom on earth. Be with us now 
as we hear what there is for us tonight in the messages from our teacher 
that we may become more like you Father.  We ask all these things in 
Michael's name, amen.

JarEl: TR, George.  Good evening, it is I, your teacher, JarEl.  It is good 
to be among my friends again, it is good to see all of you.  Welcome those 
who are here for the first time.  It is not so strange that I am speaking 
to you, in fact it is very common.  All over the world there are teachers 
who bring you similar messages.  You are experiencing a transition period 
in which your world is correcting itself, adjusting to the new frequency 
which will enable it to come into the Age of Light and Life.  New souls are 
awakening to the fact that we are all connected, we are all brothers and 
sisters here.  We all journey to the same destiny and that destiny lies in 
the heart of God.  Until we fully realize our potential we constantly 
struggle with challenges and adversities.  These challenges and adversities 
are placed in your path so that you may learn and grow.  The current 
challenge in your world is the elimination of war and the establishing of 
the brotherhood of man.

We are not much different from one another.  On my world we had similar 
struggles.  We grew and adjusted to the Age of Light and Life.  Now my 
world is well established in the Age of Light and Life but it took many 
years and many struggles for us to finally realize who we were meant to 
be.  Your world still needs to come into the realization of who you are 
meant to be.  You are at the very edge of discovering this and when it 
finally comes to pass the people of your planet will finally accept one 
another and wonder why it took them so long.  Never again will they want to 
resort to the violent ways of the past.  Violence comes from not knowing, 
from being afraid, from attacking that which one fears.

When you know who you are, you stop being afraid, for you have a secure 
sense of feeling that God is all around you and everyone is your brother 
and sister.  Even if your brother strikes you down and kills you, you 
should not be afraid of what is to come.  For every action is an 
opportunity for us to grow, every consequence is an opportunity for the 
world to grow as well.  If your brother was to hurt you on a very personal 
level, that is a good opportunity for one day both of you to learn, grow 
and to become closer to one another.

I know that it is difficult for you to understand this; just as it was 
difficult in Jesus' times to understand the concept to love your 
enemy.  How can you love your enemy if your enemy means to harm you?  When 
you examine the root cause for whatever anger or hatred your enemy has for 
you, you will begin to understand what the real problem is.  When you look 
at real problems you begin to develop real answers.  It is too easy to 
discard motives or root causes.  It is too easy to blame it on hatred, but 
the hatred stems from somewhere and it is important that you understand 
where this hatred comes from.  Fear is the number one cause for most hatred 
in your world; fear of the unknown, fear of your neighbor.  When you learn 
to love your neighbor and you learn to accept them and you learn to 
understand them, no longer will you fear your neighbor.  It takes real work 
on your part to solve these problems that plague your world.  Work towards 
real solutions my brothers.  You will find that it will make your lives and 
the lives of others much easier.  You must get past this age of only 
treating the symptom and not finding what the real problem is.

Your pharmaceuticals are a good example of what the world goes 
through.  With the taking of a pill you imagine that all of your illnesses 
will be cured, but it only covers up your sickness.  It only numbs the mind 
to what is the true cause of your illness, for it only treats the symptom 
and not the cause.  The numbing of your senses will not allow the cure of 
your illness.  The numbing of the world will not allow the world to correct 
or solves its problems.  You must be wide awake, you must feel what is 
going on in the world, only then can you know the problems that exist.  If 
you do not know, how can you solve the real problems that face you and the 
world?  It is too easy for people to lose themselves in their own lives and 
not know what is going on all around them.  I am not bringing any 
condemnation down upon you, neither is it a criticism for any of you.  It 
is simply an observation on how one can lose site of the ultimate goal for 
this planet and that is peace.  The Age of Light and Life, a time when 
humans will live in perfect harmony with one another.

We do not ask too much of you.  We only ask what you can give.  Never are 
the problems of the world laid on any of your shoulders, it is a shared 
problem that all of you have.  Only working together with one another can 
you find real solutions for the world's problems.

Are there any questions?

Anna:  I am trying to understand money.  Things have become so expensive, 
for me in particular.  I just don't make enough money, very little.  I 
wonder is it me?   I just can't keep up with the way the world is changing 
and what can I do?  The job that I am in is a nice one, the people are 
nice, I am giving service, but I realize that money has become an issue and 
that it is very important.  So do I leave my present job to try to find a 
better paying job because it has no benefits or retirement plan?  I am 54 
years old and I have nothing set aside for the future and retirement.  I am 
troubled about this and I want to know if you could offer some advice and 
answers?

JarEl: TR, George.  Certainly, the responsibilities that you hold for 
yourself and your home are the reasons that you work, is this not 
correct?  (Anna: Yes.) So you must prioritize in your life what is 
necessary, what is important.  You must also realize that the healing power 
of God is a free gift.  It is here in all the Universe of Universes, it 
exists all around you.  God never asks of you financially.  He is there for 
you, to heal; He is there for you to love.  The responsibility that you 
hold for yourself and your own finances is a problem that you must deal 
with or else you will lose control.  Everyone face these problems, everyone 
must manage their own money and their own finances.  And they must use it 
wisely on things which they feel are important.  I understand that you feel 
that your health is all important and I do not presume to tell you what to 
do with your own money, but I do know this, that the healing power of God 
is a free gift to all of His children in the Universe.  If you were to tap 
into this power which exists in God, you will find the healing that you are 
looking for.

Anna:  So should I not worry about retirement benefits or medical insurance 
and just rely on faith in God or should I leaave the people who I feel I 
should be loyal to and look for a job that pays well and offers 
benefits?  That is where I am confused?

JarEl: TR, George.  You still live in the real world.  You still have real 
issues and finances.  Do not abandon what you know will give you security 
in the future.  Retirement for you is important and to have a secure future 
in your life should not be disregarded, having said this you know what to do.

Are there any more questions?

Stella:  What can we do to put an end to these wars?

JarEl: TR, George.  Illuminate the real problem that exists in your world; 
find the strength within you to bring the light of God on the cancer that 
exists all around you.  Find a voice to speak out to people who will listen 
and who will see.  Many are convinced and fooled that the problems of your 
planet are due to something else, but if you know what is the truth, then 
speak out and illuminate this problem, so that the whole world can 
see.  That will bring an end to all wars.  For only when you look at the 
real problems that exists on your planet do you learn to deal with them in 
such a way that will not require any violence whatsoever.  It is only when 
all problems have exhausted the human imagination that people resort to 
violence.  There is not any problem on your planet that cannot be 
resolved.  That is the real tragedy here for it is almost meant to seem 
that the other person did not want to deal or bargain with you and 
therefore your government found justification for going to war.  But if you 
learn to dialog with one another to solve your problems, you would reach 
compromises with one another, you would soon be on the road to peace.

The illumination that you hold within your souls is important for this 
world to continue.  The illumination that you see in your minds is 
important for the whole world to know what can be and what one day will 
be.  All of you here hold the key to Urantia's future.  It is up to you to 
decide what to do with it, the more of you that awaken, the sooner you will 
enter this new Age of Light and Life.

Are there anymore questions?

Jerry:  JarEl, it seems to me that there is a fundamental truth that I 
would like you to either confirm and expand on if it be such, and that is 
that we all acknowledge the free agency that we are all endowed 
with.  However, what most people are not willing to acknowledge is while we 
experience the consequences of our own choices, we are not willing to 
accept the reality of the fact that we also experience the consequences of 
everybody else on the planet.  Until such time as we come to that 
realization that free agency for everybody means that we are all 
experiencing the consequences of the choices of our brothers and sisters, 
many who we don't even know, we can never find harmony.

JarEl: TR, George.  The free will choice will always persist on your 
planet.  There is nothing anyone can do about that, but the harmonizing 
will come once you all realize that it is easier to work with one another, 
then to work against one another.  The effect that may you feel by the 
choice of your brother is only augmented by your choice to give it so much 
importance.  It only affects you to such a degree that in your mind you 
expand upon it and make it greater then what it really is.  Every person on 
this planet knows full well that whatever choice that they may make, good 
or bad, has its consequences.  There are repercussions for good or bad 
choices, but the effect of such a bad choice made by others should not be 
augmented by you.  For only when it is augmented and given such great 
importance does the human consciousness, the collective consciousness fall 
into chaos and disorder.  Once you begin to balance your own lives and find 
out who you really are, there should be no event that will affect you in a 
negative way.  Ultimately all things work toward the glory of God.  Even 
that catastrophic event on your planet will one day find its pure meaning, 
and that meaning will be rooted in the love of God.  So learn to forgive 
your brothers and sisters, learn to harmonize with one another and learn to 
accept the choices that other people make.  And accept your own choices as 
well.  Learn to grow, learn to love and one day you will find yourself in a 
glorious light for the Age of Light and Life is on its way.  Thank you, I 
wish you good night.

All:  Thank you JarEl.

Moussa:  Speaking about what I have heard, I have observed what concerns my 
own spiritual consciousness and what I teach people, I did not hear 
anything shocking.  I didn't hear anything false and I didn't hear anything 
but encouragement.  In which certainty could be analyzed by all of us to 
discover that it is truly in harmony with the truth of our being and the 
path on which God wants us to go.  I congratulate the being who spoke 
through you.  I found nothing false from what he said, that is my first 
reaction.

Of course I will become a little more precise.  In my country too, a lot of 
people have the possibility of contacting directly other personalities, 
other beings and to receive suggestions, remarks and precise answers to 
questions which have been asked with precision from people.  I do encourage 
you to develop that faculty that you have and also to develop the 
possibility that the question which I have been asked not only will meet 
some answers but the promise of some support to help people who have 
problems, to meet true answers and in unexpected situations where they 
could feel your presence and assistance from God.

My personal opinion of the answer to the question of the person with 
financial problems, I have met in that great brotherhood circumstances in 
favor to bring a solution to your problem.  As far as to the problem of 
war, I would also say that those answers were good.  Also men should learn 
to pray continually and also divine influences that are always accompanying 
them, to translate more reliably their society.  There is still that divine 
strength which is all around us.  In our quality of life which will always 
suggest new ideals, especially new promise of associations to involve us 
more like a frame work where we can see the manifestation of the divine.  I 
thank you for the answers that you gave.  I thank you all to give me this 
opportunity to be present to some techniques and to reinforce this 
community of thinking.  I also pray God that each one of us who is gifted, 
whether it is to be with contact, whether it is to be with associations 
with positive beings to develop and to share for the improvement of each 
one and with the positive association of any group.

Once more, thank you.  I drew from these two things, that they are beings 
of goodwill who are trying to help you and also I realize other aspects of 
the American thought, while this is important in the general problem of 
mutual comprehension and our common work to change the earth.  I agree with 
him that we must forget what seems bad in some other person and that we 
should reflect a lot that which in that other person we must establish 
light from light divine in your natural human life.  Once more I thank you 
and also thank the personality who spoke.

I will remember when I get home, on speaking on what Norman spoke about, 
there is something else.  Although this one is important, generally when I 
give spiritual training, I share for a moment the meeting of our 
consciousness, especially the meeting of our souls between the people I 
instructed and myself; and the service for me, what God has taught me does 
not stop in the teaching.  You must pursue the work through saying your own 
prayers to God so people will come to you to ask accordingly to the light 
of truth.  As much you are certain to have taught truth, remember all of 
you that when Jesus finished teaching his apostles, while those who were 
either sleeping or resting, he went to the mountain nearby and he continued 
to pray to God.

It should make us reflect that in this particular spirit we should continue 
to pray to God for people that we have spiritual relations with, to live in 
God, to live entirely in God.  To pray generally, that is good, but to pray 
precisely for one person, to have a particular effect for that person, that 
is true service.  For those who have consecrated themselves in the service 
of God, to stay in that moral obligation, to constantly pray to God, so 
that those people may be helped constantly.  Thank you for your attention.

Gerry:  One of the things that I found extremely impressive when Norman 
told me about his encounter with Moussa was the fact that he has bridged 
between the Islamic faith and The Urantia Book.  My question is this, what 
suggestions or recommendations would you give us to help us to communicate 
and establish a dialog with the people in our community of the Islamic 
faith?  There is a gap between the communities.  We don't know one another 
and as a result we fear each another.  Moussa has been very successful in 
identifying how to bridge these differences.

Moussa:  Thank you, your question is very important and it is very 
relevant, it is worthy to be considered.  I will say something about 
it.  It would probably take me days and days to answer you 
completely.   Moslem just like Catholic, when I speak about the problem of 
God, I try to escape the sectarian problem.  I always pay attention first 
not to speak about God, not even the prophets considering a particular 
sect.  So even the question about Islam, if there are people who would want 
to discuss with the Moslem people and want to keep the essentials about God 
and man because after all that is what is important.  That is the truth, 
the relation of God and the relation with man which are essential.  This is 
not within the cultural frame, the moment where this appeared, what men 
knew and didn't know the problem of God and man in their nature, the divine 
and the human.  This has to do with social culture even though in our 
education we have found the values in our societies.  The human nature 
which uses them as nature outside nature during those cultural moments, 
those of you who are used to philosophy very well know that human nature 
generates concepts, that it is human nature that is beyond the 
concepts.  The human consciousness which will reflect about science is 
other than science.  It is about human nature that I want to attract you 
to, your human nature.  Everybody could see that this human nature is 
fundamental and, of course, belongs to all men, whatever the race, whatever 
the continent or their particular time.  These are relatives which comes 
from God, as they are since Andon and Fonta.

Human nature has not changed, it changes society, but it is what it is and 
human nature also is what it is, even despite the human evolution in the 
progression of a religion.  We must dare to come out from this frame work 
of sects.  If you want to approach that problem from a clear way, 
otherwise, if you want to base yourself only on text, and I repeat always, 
those who are Catholic or any other religion should pay more attention to 
the text, Koran.  They would realize if they understood the meaning that 
Mohammed never said anything else than what Jesus said.  He never said 
things but that you would find in Moses' words.  Notice that passages from 
the Koran, we believe in Moses, we believe in Jesus, we believe in all 
Prophets, we are Moslem; this is the definition of the Moslem.  Is there a 
problem there?

People read very poorly.  Another observation, Mohammed said in the Koran, 
God is within you.  He is closer than your jugular vein.  Look for Him, 
whatever effort it is going to cost. In the Koran also the name of Mohammed 
is different; Mohammed means "the man who seeks the truth of God", is that 
clear?

Gerry:  Does Moussa have any writings on his teaching?

Moussa:  My mission in relation to God is to bring light continually to 
man.  If I wanted to write I would have to stop going and trying to 
enlighten other people.  I have to make a choice.  Now everything that I 
have said everywhere, in whatever nation I taught in, there are full 
recordings and videos of what I have said and people can make books out of 
that if they want to.  For the past four or five years the Canadians have 
compiled all of my teachings.  It is true in Belgium, it is true in France 
and it is true in Switzerland.  You can consult them and see what would 
come from it.  I think if you wanted to make a book out of all this, the 
material would go from the floor to the ceiling, but I am not the person to 
write at this time.  I am made to instruct, maybe before I die God will 
tell me to write a book, I can do it! I am a Professor of Psychology and 
Philosophy writing is not unknown to me.  I cannot do both at the same 
time, thank you.

Larry:  Let's hear from Chita and Namukale.  How was the IC '05?

Namukale:  It was O K.  We met a lot of people from different places.  The 
fact that they were all Urantia Book readers, that was great.

George:  How did you find The Urantia Book?

Namukale:  Chita introduced it to me.

George:  How did you find The Urantia Book Chita?

Chita:  On the shelf at the library.

Was it one of the Books that Norman placed in the library?

Chita: I hope so.

Norman:  We have a picture at the Zambia Library where we presented it to 
them at the Library.

Larry:  Chita turned Namukale onto The Urantia Book, he also turned on 
seven or eight other people.  They have a UB Study group with nine of them 
who read together every week.

Norman:  If you click onto the web site 
<http://www.ubla.org/uno/>http://www.ubla.org/uno/  under Zambia you can 
read their stories.

Robert:  What do you see as the biggest challenges in a spiritual sense in 
Zambia?

Chita:  Africa is quite different from here.  After observing since we came 
here you can just go to the internet and learn about things.  The way 
Moussa does it is the way we do it.  In Africa it is quite different, 
people learn from what I do.  People learn from what people say.  We learn 
some from the internet, but most people in Zambia learn from what people 
speak.  So we learn in two different ways, you learn in a different way 
here in the Western World than in real Africa.  Normally people learn by 
what I do.  They always want me to be there to lead the activities, how 
come?  People learn from the way you live your life.  (Chita spoke very 
softly and it was hard to hear each of his words from the recording.)

Larry: Chita has a very slow and methodical way of teaching the truth from 
The Urantia Book.  I learned this from reading his Bio and those in their 
study group.  He first wrote Namukale letters while she was away at 
school.  In his letters he wrote some of the concepts and quotes from The 
Urantia Book.  Of course when Namukale came home she wanted to know the 
source of these concepts and quotes.  Chita whets people's appetite for the 
truth by sharing concepts first and waiting for them to seek the source 
before sharing The Urantia Book.

There is a lot that we can learn from our African brothers and sisters in 
their methods of sharing.  I know after getting The Urantia Book my 
approach was almost shoving it into someone's face and saying here read 
this book.  But Chita lives and shares the concepts with his friends, until 
his friends want to know, where do these concepts come from?  This is how 
he got nine people into his UB study group.  He has been more successful in 
the few years that he has had the book in his missionary work than I have 
been in the 30 years that I been a reader.  So we can learn a lot from our 
African brothers and sisters.

(This meeting when on for another hour of sharing and learning from each 
other how to share The Urantia Book.  It was a great pleasure for all of us 
to share the love we each had for The Urantia Book with our friends and 
spiritual brothers and sisters from Africa and to hear of their love for it 
and the truths contained therein.)

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