[tmtranscripts] NET #43, July 16, 2018

[Roxanne Andrews]

PR

*New Era Transition #43 – Circle Growth; Abortion; Gene Manipulation;
Celestial Eugenics Program – Jul. 16, 2018*



*Christ Michael* of Nebadon and *Machiventa Melchizedek*, Planetary Manager



Topics:

Christ Michael on co-creativity of Urantia

Choosing the ascendant journey

Celestial help available

Progress report for Urantia

Diving in murky waters

Assessing our personal growth in the circles

Psychic Circles and Planetary Management

Identifying others as to circle attainment

Ability to share wisdom increases

Comments on the treatise* On Liberty*

In the event of any large national disaster

What ‘should’ we be doing at this time?

A plea for readers to add to Jeff/Liz web site

Might undeveloped countries benefit more from birth control products?

Abortion in the case of rape

What about abortion in the case of deformed fetuses?

Medical use by CRISPR and gene splicing

Malevolent individuals who manipulate genes

Helping the Life Carriers to return to the original code

Gene splicing to replace extinct animal species

Are we about to make a quantum leap in human capabilities?

The celestial eugenics program

The Canadian sociologist, Jordon Peterson

Where else are the 7 values being taught?

Was WWII a cataclysm that triggered world population?

The growing repugnance of violence

Closing Statement



TR:  Daniel Raphael, PhD



Team members present:  Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Jeff Cutler,
Stéphane Labonteé and Sherille Raphael.



Invocation:  Jeff



*July 16, 2018*







*Christ Michael on co-creativity of Urantia*



*CHRIST MICHAEL:*  Good morning, this is Christ Michael and welcome to a
glorious day.  (Group greetings.)  We are most welcome and thank you for
your presence here.  Without your conscious participation and intentional
participation to help us co-creatively in healing this world, this work
would not be done.  Whether it takes a few years or a few centuries, it
cannot be done even in 10,000 years if the mortals on this planet do not
co-creatively, willfully and intentionally assist us in this process.  You
see, on this world, Machiventa has had the experience of being here as I
have, and we know personally from our first accounts, presence and
experience of being here that this world presents the God the Supreme with
a huge mountain of wisdom to be gathered for the ascendant journey by
willfully and positively making decisions in accord with God’s Will for
each individual.



*Choosing the ascendant journey*



And those individuals who do not choose to attend the ascendant journey, or
who repudiate God, nonetheless many people provide wonderful additions of
wisdom and knowledge to God the Supreme.  Every opportunity is given to
everyone, those who believe and those who do not, and even those who
repudiate our existence we assist them to make right decisions to follow
their will to do God’s Will.  This oneness of character of the Thought
Adjusters within all of you binds us all together.



*Celestial help available*



Your planet now is on a coordinated and concerted effort by Thought
Adjusters and the Celestial Realms and Angelic Realms to bring this world
into peace and harmony.  As you have learned so well and so thoroughly that
life is all about making decisions.  No decisions, no growth!  It is
important that people grow, and in order to grow and improve your quality
of life, you must make decisions, you must engage the process of living
your life as a mortal and as a budding spiritual being on this world to
ascend into your next many lifetimes.  Albeit Nebadonia and I embrace each
of you and all of you, one and altogether with our presence here among you,
and we have the wisdom to assist you whenever you call upon us to access
our wisdom, we will readily share that with you for our wisdom is the
wisdom of light, our wisdom is the wisdom of goodness, of oneness, of
wholeness and completion.  That is the intention of the Days of Light and
Life for the whole universe, and eventuality that will surely come into
being.



*Progress report for Urantia*



As a progress report, we have made wonderful inroads into many smaller
communities around your world.  Many of those people, even ordinary
individuals by the millions and billions are becoming aware that something
is not quite right around them, that there is something more, and they are
developing a hunger for messages and for values and words and guidance and
leadership that brings them into the direction that they feel in their
heart must be true, of peace, of oneness and wholeness.  People yearn for
that, and so these basic urges in human motivation have been augmented in
all of you.  Those who have chosen to do wrong and to be in self-separation
from all others also are given this, and so you see a huge difference
between those of light and those of darkness, those who choose to support
goodness and peace with others and those who destroy it and cause a
fracture in your societies and in your lives.



As your Creator and one-time Planetary Prince, now standing beside
Machiventa Melchizedek, Nebadonia and I wish you good day.  (Group:  Thank
you, Christ Michael!)



*Diving in murky waters*



*MACHIVENTA:*  This is Machiventa Melchizedek and I am privileged to follow
our Creator.  Christ Michael is my Creator and my brother, as he is your
brother/Father Creator as well.  We thank him for his presence here today.  You
can trust in what he has said that there is a dedicated concerted effort to
bring your world into light.  You are now much like divers working in a
murky river that you can forge ahead, but you do not see very far ahead of
you to know what is coming, or what is developing.  These waters of
darkness in your world are being brought into lightness and they will
become still at one time.  As one of your sage and wise individuals [Alan
Watts] says, “The way to clear up muddy water is to leave it alone,” and so
this is a truth that by not stirring up the animosity of others, then peace
will come about, and peace first of all must come about within you.  Peace
and stillness are essential to the development of the inner mind and
personality and the bonding between you and your Thought Adjuster.  This
peace comes from your intrapersonal relationships, your inner dialog that
you can monitor all through your life, but now to become conscious of what
you are saying about yourself.



I will step aside now and wait for your questions, as you have perhaps many
that remain to be answered.



*Assessing our personal growth in the circles*



*Stéphane:*  My question is about personal progress, and yes, the best way
to clear muddy water is to leave it alone, but assessing ourselves in our
growth, we have been told about the circles.  Can you expand on the
significance of these in our progress and also in respect to Planetary
Management?



*MACHIVENTA:*  The Physic Circles are not something that you can
consciously leap from one ring of the circle to another.  It is done by
your unconscious awareness of them and striving to do good, to improve who
you are, what you are and how you engage your life with others.  It is
finding the path of “what works” and “what does not work” to aid that
progress.  As I said in my introductory statement, your inner dialog is
your best guide to how you view yourself.  If you are feeling guilty, or
you worry, then you are living in the past or the future.  You must live in
the now in this very moment to make that progress.  If you are calling
yourself names and you drop something and it breaks and you call yourself a
big dummy, or some other expletive, then you have work to do.  One is to
become at peace with yourself as you live in this moment.



This guidance is the forerunner of world peace, it is to know that you want
peace, but to know that I AM peaceful, and the “I AM” is a statement of the
God union within yourself and your Thought Adjuster.  I AM at peace; I AM
peaceful; I AM a good person; I think good thoughts, I do good deeds and I
know wisdom from that which is not wisdom, and those who are a fraud in
life and those are sincere.



Please state the last part of your question again, please.



*Psychic Circles and Planetary Management*



*Stéphane:*  The significance of the Psychic Circles of achievements in
Planetary Management.



*MACHIVENTA:*  To be a Planetary Manager means not that you are taking the
place of the Planetary Manager, but you as a citizen of the planet, as an
individual, see yourself as contributing to the world.  As you progress
through the Psychic Circles you realize that you are one among many, and
that others are similar as you are.  Many have the same urges and
motivations for life as you have, and as you progress in your Psychic
Circles, you become more centered—no pun intended—that you become centered
in the thought of being in union with your Thought Adjuster and are a
contributor to the planet.  Those who are not progressing along the Psychic
Circles could be called leeches or parasites on your planet, both for the
produce of the world materially and energetically.  They do not work for
the good of the whole planet and they work against it, thus retarding
social evolution and the world.  As one progresses through these 7 Psychic
Circles, you realize that you are one part of a whole, which encompasses
the whole universe, and that you take on the role and the thoughts and
attitudes and decisions of the Planetary Manager to make contributions to
your life and to prepare your children for similar paths early in their
lives.  As you move toward the center of the Psychic Circles, your
consciousness expands.



*Identifying others as to circle attainment*



*Stéphane:*  Just as a follow-up, as we work in this concept of Planetary
Management and a contribution thereof, then is it likely possible that we
can identify others that are not at the same level as we are, likely above
or below the circles that we currently are at.  Would that be a true
statement?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes.  One of the attributes of a Planetary Manager is
observation: one is self-observation, not for condemnation, but as a
learning process; and as an observer of others, not as a process to condemn
them, but to observe them and to see the wisdom that they have in their
life that you can use for yourself, and the wisdom you have gained to share
with them.  Some people are not open to share their wisdom; some people who
are regressive in their spiritual development do have wisdom that can be
useful if you interpret it in positive ways.  The important aspect besides
observation is discernment; to discern yourself and discern others is a
means for gaining immense wisdom in a short period of time.  An individual
who has self-interest at heart would see others and observe them and
discern that they are superior to them and would condemn them.  The person
who is ascending in the circles sees others as their brothers and sisters
along in the struggle in life to get through this lifetime.  As you move in
the circles you become more Christ-like and patient and tolerant and good
and kind.  You are able to make wise decisions because they benefit
everyone.



*Ability to share wisdom increases*



*Stéphane:*  Does the ability to share wisdom increase as you progress
through the circles?  Or is the sharing not required?



*MACHIVENTA:*  The sharing is a process of service.  You know and I know
that when you are teaching and sharing with others who are not open to be
led, or to listen and to learn, then they will learn nothing.  It is very
true that when the students are ready, a teacher arrives, and there are
many people now who are hungry for goodness and right decision-making for
the good of themselves, their families, their communities and their nation
and societies.  Does this suffice?



*Stéphane:*  Thank you, yes.



*Comments on the treatise On Liberty*



*Jeff:*  We are using in our syllabus the treatise* On Liberty* by John
Stewart Mill.  And in that treatise, and I quote “That the only purpose for
which power can be rightly exercised over any member of a civilized
community against his will, is to prevent harm to others.  His own good,
either physical or moral is not a sufficient warrant, over himself; over
his body and mind, the individual is sovereign.”  With this statement as
prelude, what is my right to pursue the 7 core values for my personal
growth, and do I have a right to object to someone who is abusing that
right with antisocial behavior or the overconsumption of finite resources
that are essential to me, and if so, is there a just  recourse available to
me?



*MACHIVENTA:*  I request of you, now having stated all of that, to break
your multiple questions into separate questions, please.



*Jeff:*  Do I have a personal right as a human on this planet to pursue the
7 core values for my personal growth?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, you do, and you are advised to do so.



*Jeff:*  Do I have a right to object to someone who is abusing that right
with antisocial behavior or a behavior that is consuming resources that are
essential to me?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Let me answer the first part of that question, please.  In
the first part, you have a right to object, but how you object must meet
the moral standards of those 7 values. You must be able to discern when the
morality of the situation requires you to interfere directly and
physically, and [when to] use the ethics involved to know when to keep your
mouth shut and your hands in your pockets.  The ethics of the 7 values
gives you guidance in how to react to those situations.  As a potential
Planetary Manager, you become a thinking individual to assess situations
that are unfolding.  Yes, you have a right, but how you exercise that right
is another situation.  I would suggest you develop 2 or 3 more questions
concerning this.



*In the event of any large national disaster*



*Jeff:*  Okay.  I’m going to need some time to do that.  I have 2 other
questions that came out of the last meeting: you mentioned in NET #42 the
practice of sending the elderly out on an ice floe with no parka to make
room in the igloo.  With all of these IOUs via political promises for
future benefits and all of the overconsumption brought forward with the
encouragement of mountains of personal and government debt, are we not
close to the point of pushing people out on the ice—figuratively—in the
event of any large national disaster?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, most definitely and it has already begun.



*What ‘should’ we be doing at this time?*



*Jeff:*  Is there something that we should be doing about that with our
model?  Are we just plugging along with the model and waiting our time
until it is picked up, or do we need to be more proactive at this time.



*MACHIVENTA:*  Explain for the readers what you mean by model.



*Jeff:*  The 7 core values decision model that we are trying to have people
put into place for every day decisions for their lives and the lives of
their families and organizations, and hopefully at some point, governments.



*MACHIVENTA:*  My team and I have a difficult time with the word “should.”  It
is a difficult word for us because we live in the present and you live in
the present, and “should” is projecting an expectation onto other people.  We
do not do that; it is not part of the celestial teaching model for the work
that we do.  We accept our students as they are, where they are and we
strive to feed them in a way that they become hungry and curious and want
to actually invade our teaching manuals to know everything about their
lives and how to live it so that they arrive in the future in that peace
and stability.  Yes, you can do a lot more; you “could” do a lot more.  We
are not saying, my dear friend, Jeff, that you “should” do a lot more.  That
is your decision.  We do not project those expectations on you but offer
you opportunities under the word “could” that give you the options about
what you “could” do to support that work.



When you begin developing web sites and teaching materials that introduce
these concepts of the 7 values and how that repercusses individually and in
the family and socially, you have begun a road of teaching the public; you
have begun to pique the interest of those who are curious.  And
unfortunately, you live in a society where very, very few people are
curious about life and how to develop the goodness around them into peace
and personal, social stability.  There is much you can do and if we were to
give you further guidance about your web site, we suggest that you develop
your material in a way that does pique an individual’s curiosity to want to
know more.  That is a skill of writing and marketing that is remarkable in
itself for the typical human psyche.



As we survey this small group of NOCO (Northern Colorado) people on this
team, we find no one who “should” be doing more.  You are doing as much as
you can do.  You have fulfilled many expectations for yourselves that you
never thought you ever would 5 years ago.  You are at a place now where you
have grown and matured and you are evolving spiritually and connecting that
spiritual evolution into your social realm.  This is marvelous; we could
not expect or ask you to do more.  You have begun to act in your lives in
ways that are productive; and you are not proselytizing this material; you
are laying wonderful traps of goodness to entice people to this light and
love that Christ Michael first shared as Jesus.



*A plea for readers to add to Jeff/Liz web site*



*Jeff:*  To add to that, may I make a shameless plug to the readers of
these papers to say that they are invited by us by all means to submit
things that they think would be appropriate for the web site.
info at 7corevalues.org



*MACHIVENTA:*  Certainly.  Yes, you are welcome to do that as you have just
done.  And also remember that you are (Laughing)…  [This is Daniel:  Machiventa
appreciates your very subtle and adroit venture.]  … yes, and you would be
remiss if you did not ask others directly for the wisdom that you wish to
share in your site, if you understand what I mean.



*Jeff:*  I think I do.  Thank you very much.



*Might undeveloped countries benefit more from birth control products?*



*Craig:*  Thanks for taking all our nagging questions.  I thought readers
might be wondering about 3 things that stem from our last conversation, and
the first one is:  Might developed countries—apparently we send food and
other aid to some of the undeveloped countries—might we get more mileage,
do more favors for everybody if we were sending them birth control products
so that people weren’t having unwanted children?



*MACHIVENTA:*  My team behind me is clapping in appreciation of your
suggestion.  You are very right that whatever efforts that pursue a
population management strategy do so in a way that is not viewed as
colonialism or to maintain the superiority of the donor countries.  Do you
understand?



*Craig:*  Yes, it has to be an offering, not a sort of “pushing on.”



*MACHIVENTA:*  Exactly, thank you.



*Abortion in the case of rape*



*Craig:*  The second one I think readers might want to know is Roxie
brought up abortion and you said it raises many problems, which of course
it does.  I was thinking about the case specifically of where a sexual
predator rapes a woman and she becomes pregnant.  I suppose that might be a
good place for a morning after pill, but what if a woman does find she’s
pregnant from a rapist.  There seems to be distress on all sorts of levels
from the woman’s personal point of view and society’s point of view.  I’m
not sure we want to perpetuate the genes of people with that kind of
tendency, and of course a child who isn’t wanted and may not be loved once
it arrives.  I’d better stop there.  The question is, does that make a
different case for abortion than the general case?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, it certainly does, and in that case abortion is
warranted.  It is from the perspective of us; it is not immoral to do that.
To maintain the child against the will of the mother would be the
perpetuation of the immorality and violence of the act of rape, and yes,
there would be lifetime moral and ethical and personality repercussions in
the lives of everyone concerned who knew about that incident, and for that
child.  All efforts of life by humans must be oriented toward good; evil
acts have repercussions, which we hope you will ameliorate or dissolve in
ways that are peaceful.  The ways of conducting an abortion as that is a
welcome event for everyone, a moral relief for those who are involved when
it is conducted as early as possible.



*What about abortion in the case of deformed fetuses?*



*Craig:*  Thank you and the last question is very similar:  It’s what
happens when tests show that the fetus is going to be born severely
deformed or handicapped or with some sort of genetic disease.  I imagine
the same thing would apply?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, it would apply, but the overriding act of compassion is
to know ahead of time, or at least during the early phase of pregnancy
whether the child will grow into a moral being.  In other words, one who is
capable of receiving a Thought Adjuster.  When the infant is born as an
imbecile or does not have the capacity to eventually make moral decisions,
then you are really addressing the aspect of a non-human, one who would not
have the capability of making moral decisions.  Do you understand this?  (
*Craig:*  Yes.)  Let me comment further.  As your medical practices are
still quite primitive there is still much exploration going on to identify
those gene structures which cause disabilities in the next generation.



You will find that eventually most everyone in a developed country will be
given the opportunity to have their genetic structures analyzed and that in
doing so to identify those gene structures which would cause the next
generation to be disabled.  When it comes to genetic manipulation, the
ideal is to return the gene structure to its original genetic code—much
like software code—so that it operates properly and functionally to produce
well-rounded, healthy individuals, mentally and physically.  When there are
errors in the code, it is moral and ethical to remove or replace them.  To
manipulate the gene structures in humans for any other purpose is immoral
on a cosmic scale.  To seek to have some kind of eugenics program that
develops a perfect race or a superior individual to play basketball or
football or any other sports, or ballet, is cosmically immoral.  What is
desirable for all humans is that you grow from birth into being a normal
individual who can experience a life and make moral decisions and actively
choose to will to do God’s Will.  When there are deficiencies in life that
do not make a positive contribution to the growth of that individual,
whether it is from nerve damage, muscle damage or skeletal damage before
birth and throughout life, those factors disallow the individual from
growing and expressing the full potential within themselves.  Do you see
the distinction between the immoral aspects of gene manipulation and that
which is proactive and highly moral?



*Craig:*  I believe so, yes.  We want to have well-rounded, average
individuals of improving quality in each generation; we don’t want to try
and predispose them to excelling at any particular thing and not being
complete in other respects.



*MACHIVENTA:*  Good.



*Medical use by CRISPR and gene splicing*



*Jeff:*  In my gathering from your comments, we as a species should look
upon the medical use of CRISPR and gene splicing in human beings as
creating—I don’t want to say superhuman—but someone, a person that is not
quite human.



*MACHIVENTA:*  That would be a gross immoral activity of your medical field
then.



*Stéphane:*  So there is a risk that by manipulating the genes that you end
up with creating humans that have no ability to inherit the Thought
Adjuster?



*MACHIVENTA:*  This is a possibility, but the process of CRISPR, as you
explain it, is very deliberate, it is very intentional, it is very
conscious on the part of the technicians and scientists who do that and
they would have an excellent view/perspective/understanding of what they
would be creating.



*Malevolent individuals who manipulate genes   *



So the next idea or thought is this:  You and we know that there are
malevolent individuals who want to have self-aggrandizement through their
profession or through some other form of recognition, and there would
always be those individuals who have a CRISPR process even at home, who
would manipulate genes to produce something that was non-human.  It is
important that there be oversight in all medical facilities that use these
gene manipulation technologies so that the efforts are focused on
generating new generations of genetically whole individuals.  That is now
being done as you have begun to see, where individuals in a family know
that they have a predisposition towards a particular disability, which may
manifest early or later in life, and so they undergo gene manipulation of
an ovum or spermatozoa so that the combined new person or child of that
family does not have that predisposition.  This is one of the best ways to
begin the new whole generations, at least mentally and physically.



*Jeff:*  I am inferring that the removal of an inheritable gene that is
detrimental to the quality of life of people that inherit that, removal of
that gene is a moral act, but the manipulation of other things to insure
blue eyes, or blond hair or being tall or athletic, purely for personal
aggrandizement is morally repugnant.  Is that so?



*Helping the Life Carriers to return to the original code*



*MACHIVENTA:*  That is correct.  I want you to draw a very graphic
distinction here, that when those mal-functioning genes are removed from
the gametes (ovum or spermatozoa), and then those 2 cells are joined, the
child that comes about will be able to access the potential that lies
within them.  In doing so, you are helping the Life Carriers to bring about
the original code as it was given to your species long ago.  This is a God
given coordinated effort, whereas when mortal technicians think—make their
own human personal human decisions of what they think ought to occur in a
child—then you begin the slippery road into highly immoral eugenic programs.



*Stéphane:*  Thank you for that and part of the co-creation that we have
been talking about and the 7 values would apply to this, is that we join
forces with the Life Carriers in a way to improve the genetic code to that
intent.



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, through the millennia, hundreds of millennia, the
genetic code of your species has in some individual strains degenerated,
and that they have mismatched sequences that when they are combined between
the 2 fertilizing cells the results, though a natural process, is a process
of biologic devolution, rather than evolution.  So, when you make the
co-creative conscious effort to not improve the species, but to correct the
deficits that have come about over the millions and millions of couplings
of those cells, you are really expressing the will of the Creator for the
best efforts of your species.



*Craig:*  May I ask another question?  What I’m wondering now is would gene
splicing and that sort of thing be necessary if our planet had followed a
more normal evolutionary course, and if we had weeded out the defectives
and degenerates along the way, the way it should have happened.



*MACHIVENTA:*  We are highly reluctant to address an “if” question
concerning these aspects, these topics.  We deal with what is here today
and what we have is you, and so we are working with the best-of-the-best
here to improve your species and this planet.



*Gene splicing to replace extinct animal species*



*Jeff:*  Going to a second derivative of this discussion, if someone
privately said to themselves, “I live in the Midwest and I think we could
sequence a gene splice from the common pigeon and reintroduce a gene that
would turn this common pigeon—I can’t remember the name at the moment— into
a carrier pigeon, and reintroduce that extinct life on the planet.  Would
that be considered a moral action, or just something that the Life Carriers
should be doing?



*MACHIVENTA:*  That does not fall within the realm of morality.  That deals
with non-sentient beings as a pigeon and there would be no detrimental
impact for making that sequence change.  Clarify if you want.



*Jeff:*  So that means in the far distant future when we are approaching a
more rational balance between the number of human beings and the number of
insects and animals, that it would be possible to sequence and bring back
some extinct species that added balance to the ecology of the planet.  Is
that a fair thing to say?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, that would be a fair statement to make.  However, the
wisdom of mortals, as you have witnessed yourself, is often much in arrears
of the height of understanding of what those decisions may entail and what
may occur afterwards.  It is much like what happened when rabbits were
introduced to Australia.  That was a good thought at the time, but it
became highly detrimental where now millions of rabbits have had to be
killed over the years to protect the crops and the welfare of people.  Do
you have another thought concerning that?



*Jeff:*  Rabbits would make a good export crop!  (Laughter.)



*Are we about to make a quantum leap in human capabilities?*



*Stéphane:*  Machiventa, I have a follow-up question that’s aligned.  It
seems like we are at a quantum leap in human capabilities; we are talking
about modifying genetic code; we are talking about commanding celestials as
per the last lessons.  So it seems that if we can somehow make a leap in
aligning ourselves and stop the wars and focus our energies on peaceful and
benevolent activities that there would be an associated quantum leap in
human capabilities.  It seems we are being prepared with all the Super Hero
movies that we are seeing these days with super human powers being
displayed and brought to our attention, am I correct in thinking that we
are on the threshold of a quantum leap in our capabilities?



*MACHIVENTA:*  The thoughtful answer to that is “no.”  The considered
answer to that is that humans have already within their gene structure
immense reservoirs of capacities that are unimagined to your scientists and
to individuals anywhere in your world.  You already have within your gene
structure undisclosed, inactivated programs, sub-programs of your species
which will give you super-human abilities, not especially those that are
physical, but those that are mental and those that are psychic and
spiritual. I must speak guardedly about this as there are secrets of Life
Carriers in their laboratories that we are not allowed to share with
mortals of the realm.



Another part of the answer is yes, you are already seeing this within the
last and current generations of children.  Those children who are exposed
to learning situations and exposed to much stimulation of a positive nature
early in their lifetimes—and when I say “stimulated” by many forms, I mean
social activities, reading, mathematics, music, arts, history, philosophy,
ethics, morality and to discuss those things early on.  We have seen
children as early as 4 years old and 5 years old who are able to discuss in
simple terms ethics and morality with much clarity, and to ask questions of
adults that are stunning to those adults.  You have a generation of these
children who are now present.  They will become, with opportunities and
right guidance by their parents, the wonderful Doctors of Philosophy, those
Ethicists and Moralists who can guide and develop and mature your social
processes.



*The celestial eugenics program*



These as you are seeing are already active in the gene structure of
individuals.  There have been many changes in the social predispositions
and maturity of individuals as in the last century.  You have gone from the
simple horse and buggy era of the early 1900s, now into the current
era.  Almost
all of the major innovations that have occurred of significance to the
maturation of your planet and social evolution have not been connected to
technological innovation, but have been due to the arts, whether it is
writing or painting or some generation of intellectual development.  Technical
innovations are simply making a better flint hammer and a flint knife to do
your work around the world.



What we are seeking now, that we augment and support, and are actively
involved in is developing these next 2 generations of children.  This began
over 30 years ago and continues.  We are guiding the unions of young
people, males and females, to join together to have this new generation of
children.  This has been our “eugenics program” of the celestials that yes
we are involved in bringing people together for the highest good and
evolution of your planet.  We do not see rapid change in your planetary
structure of social evolution, whether it involves your social
institutions, your political institutions or economic institutions, or
other agents of human activity on a short-term scale.  We deal in
generations of people; we see children as the best capable of healing your
world to come.



As This One just read today, a quote from Frederick Douglass, “It is easier
to build strong children than to repair broken men.”  [Douglass was born an
estate slave who became a very intelligent individual, lecturer and author.]
Your world will be healed by good parents doing good deeds and raising
their children to be honorable, moral, ethical individuals with a social
conscience, and who has a conscious intention to do the same with their own
children.  This is how your world will become whole and one.  The structure
of the holism of social sustainability requires that all social
institutions and processes use the same value system to make decisions.  Making
those decisions and using those values will automatically bring about an
evolved social and spiritually evolved world.  Now you know what we have
been working on for the last many, many years, that it is important to
change the decision-making process, and that can only be done by infusing
decisions with moral and ethical decision-making based on those 7 values
that are innate to each human being.



*The Canadian sociologist, Jordon Peterson*



*Jeff:*  My question as an add-on or part of this thread of discussion is—I
think it is almost fair to say a phenomenon—of this Canadian Sociologist,
Jordan Peterson, who is attracting very large crowds of young people, who
is being attacked by the political far left for his unequivocal stating
that moral relativism does not work, and that there are solid moral and
ethical values.  He does not use the 7 core values, but he comes very close.
Is this a fruit of your efforts that so many young people are rejecting the
idea that “if it’s okay with you, it’s okay.  We have to figure out what’s
moral in your mind, we have to accept that it’s just the way it is.”  Is
this hunger for his speeches by huge audiences around the country a part of
the fruit of your efforts?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes.  Thank you for asking that.  And I’ll expand on that,
and that moral relativism is abhorrent to us.  The way through that, not
around it but through it, is to recognize the values that are consistent,
honest and have been persistent for over 200,000 years in your species to
assist the survival of your species.  Those values provide a concrete
bedrock stratum of consciousness that encircles the whole earth because
those values are in everyone.  There is no escaping into the relativism in
these values in moral and ethical terms.



*Where else are the 7 values being taught?*



*Stéphane:*  It seems the 7 values are, the only place I see them being
revealed or discussed is in this group.  Typically, such revelations of
important discoveries are found in different places at the same time.  Are
we to expect that we will see discussions or discoveries of 7 values
independently elsewhere that will come

to our intention?



*MACHIVENTA:*  The points that we see around the world that are engaged in
these 7 values are already the product of our work through you.  What you
see around the world, particularly with the younger generation and
Millennials is a hunger for morality and values that are stable, consistent
and unequivocally unmoving, irrevocable and unchangeable.  They understand
that the older generations are now—the X, Ys and so on—are morally
deficient, even though they are good people.  These children are hungry for
something that they can rely on that is as firm as the ground underneath
their feet when they walk through town.  This phenomenon is a generality
that is occurring around the world.  These young generations have no faith
or confidence in the values of the older medias of the self-interest of
those generations.  They see that those are shallow and superficial and
lead to individuals who make egregious decisions at the moral expense of
other people.  What you are seeing is this phenomenon in Europe, it is in
the United States, it is in South America, Africa, in Asia and all around
the world.  Decades ago, we discerned that this generational phenomenon
which would be coming, and now are feeding them with the idea of these 7
values and the morality that develops out of it.  What you will see if you
do your research into ethics and morality is that there has never existed a
stable, permanent, unified morality and ethic anywhere in history, that
philosophers have always questioned how to make these decisions that are
unequivocally correct; those values were not revealed until the last decade.
Now it is time for us and for our mortal friends to share this information
with everyone worldwide.  There is no proprietary interest by us to keep
these 7 values secret, or the morality that has developed out of it.  It is
important now to use this to bring about the world that is entering the age
of social sustainability and moral decision-making.



*Was WWII a cataclysm that triggered world population?*



*Stéphane:*  Thank you, and I have one last question in that the *Urantia
Book* seems to have been coinciding with the end of the Second World War:  Was
the Second World War seen as a cataclysm that would trigger the world
population towards a better future and it said that the *Urantia Book* was
timed to coincide with such a cataclysm.  Is that correct?



*MACHIVENTA:*  No, we would not agree with that.  World War II was
certainly a cataclysm of humanity; it was the development of the egregious
acts and response to the aggressors of World War I.  It was one of those
developments where the First World War was one foot dropping and World War
II was the second foot dropping.  What has changed your world immensely due
to the war mechanism and industry is the development of technologies that
allowed and even encouraged the growth of population by feeding the
millions who otherwise would not have come into existence.  Technological
innovations have been more significant for the change of your world than
was World War II.  WWII and WWI together provided humanity with a specter
of a dystopian world and that there is a need to always keep this in
mind.  There
is a wonderful effort to never let the world forget about the Holocaust;
this is one of the ultimate tragedies and cataclysms of all humanity; it
was the actions by a nation of people to consciously and deliberately
destroy another ethnic and religious and political group.  This is
something that has occurred again on a smaller scale in the subsequent
decades, one which must be eliminated.



Now, to turn the page on that topic, this means that when those people act
against the forward inertia of your societies, that work against the good
morality of your people of individuals and whole societies, there must be a
moral process for weighing that existence in the world.  End of that
thought.



*The growing repugnance of violence*



We have had tremendous discussions about morality and ethics and so on.  What
you have seen if you take the grand scale of the last century and all the
tragedies and travesties and wonderful, beneficent things that have
occurred in your world, there is one thing to glean from this whole
process, is that there is a growing repugnance of violence, and a
tremendous desire for peace and goodness to prevail.  That is something we
totally support!  As one becomes more repugnant to violence and war of all
sorts, you begin to realize that it has to do with self-interest, personal
decision-making and political group decision-making to carry out that
violence.  It is again another instance of decision-making.  [Break in the
recording.]  What you are seeing is the progression of thought, that there
is repugnance to violence and war, that there is an awareness of values
that underlie peace and social sustainability, and that war and violence
occurs because of personal selfish decisions.  As one begins to juxtapose
the violence and war with those 7 values, you begin to develop a thought of
morality and ethics about proper and good conduct, conduct that is in
concert with those values.



When your scientists and philosophers begin to grasp the import and
potential of this union, then you will begin to enter into the phase where
philosophy begins to counter-balance the technologies of your world.  Where
the technologies of violence are physical, the technologies of peace are
social, mental, and spiritual.  This is developed through the development
of spirituality and of philosophy.  As the *Urantia Book* has said
repeatedly, is that there is a tremendous dearth of philosophical thought
that is of assistance to your world to come to grasp with many of its big
problems.  However, that situation has changed tremendously with the
introduction of these 7 values and the unwavering morality that develops
out of those 7 values.  Now we can begin to write the scenarios, the
pragmatic applications of those problems in terms that ordinary individuals
can understand and appreciate.  We have worked with This One to develop a
recent paper, which is available on that web site.  It is the first
pragmatic application of the 7 values and morality for a problem that has
vast global repercussions in your world.  The title of that paper is,
“Answering the Moral and Ethical Confusion of Uninvited Migrants.”  It has
been applauded by friends of This One who have read his philosophical,
almost academic papers over the years and have clapped and applauded that
this has finally given them a practical application to understand what he
was talking about.

https://sites.google.com/view/danielraphael/free-downloads



*Closing Statement*



*MACHIVENTA:*  I hope you can appreciate in my last statements about the
development, the growth and the maturation of thought through technologies
to values, to decision-making, to morality and now into philosophy that is
in agreement with those values and morality and the spirituality that
develops out of that.  The philosophical questions that evolve from such
contemplation will eventually end up with recognizing that there must be a
purpose for human existence.  You, who are believers, know this already,
you accept that, affirm it and your will to do God’s Will.  For the rest of
humanity who needs to be convinced, they will come to realize that all
reality stems from within the mind, and within the mind there exists the
presence of the IAM, the fragment of God who is with you as your friend and
companion and eventual fusion-mate.  With that we give you great hope for
your children and great-grandchildren, and in a world that might be in
peace because of what you are doing today.



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