[tmtranscripts] NET #39, May 7, 2018

[Roxanne Andrews]

PR

*New Era Transition #39 – Economic Disruption; Decision-Making in
Corporations; Monitoring Systems for Economies – May 7, 2018*



*Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince*



Topics:

The theme of transition is change

Preparing the God version of Social Sustainability, Morality and Ethics

More on the forgiving of debts

Economic disruption

In history, what would be comparable to this economic disruption?

Focus on decision-making or the co-creative design team concept in
corporations?

Use of the phrase “co-creative” versus “validation”

Reasons for the 90 degree change in direction

Seeing the signs of the approaching cataclysms

You have no integrated monitoring system for your economies

The time of expression for the process of the 90 degree turn

Use 7 core values to make all decisions

Debt-based financial systems

We are to embed and infuse the 7 core values into all of our systems

Feeling completely overwhelmed

Being a vital and essential part of what is to come about

Are cataclysms the only way to achieve this outcome?

What activities can we do today to survive the cataclysms?

Closing comments



TR:  Daniel Raphael, PhD



Team members present:  Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Jeff
Cutler, Stéphane Labonteé and Sherille Raphael.



Invocation:  Sherille



*May 7, 2018*



[*Daniel:*  Sounds like a skeleton crew this morning.]



*The theme of transition is change*



*MACHIVENTA:*  Good morning, this is Machiventa.  Thank you for gathering
here once again.  Yes, there are a few of us here, but we are mighty and we
have Christ Michael behind us, helping us through these days, these eras on
your world.  You can rest assured that our presence here is unwavering; it
expresses total commitment on our part and by Christ Michael and Nebadonia,
the Most Highs and those on Uversa who are observing these developments
closely.  As we have said before, this is an era of transition.  Transitions
are not absent from changes, sometimes frequent, sometimes long-term, but
always the theme of transition is change, and so we are in the midst of new
change that we have begun over 6 weeks ago.  It continues on and will do so
for some time, perhaps until the momentous August 21 when Christ Michael
was born.  We anticipate that those of you who are “connected” will see
these changes around you and you will notice that things are not quite the
same as they were.



*Preparing the God version of Social Sustainability, Morality and Ethics*



We have given This One another chore to do, and that is to now write the
“God version of the Social Sustainability and the Morality and Ethics” that
we have been using for quite some time.  It is important that the
God-centered version be provided as much as or more so than the secular
version.  In all regards whether it is secular, it is humanitarian and the
origins of it comes from God.  Now, in this new paper, it will express the
God-centeredness of all your creation and the ethics and social
sustainability of your world.  It will be something that will be
non-denominational; it will be even non-Christian; it will be God-centered
and speak for everyone who believes in God, the Center of all Creation, the
First Source and Center, your personal Creator as exemplified and evident
by your Thought Adjuster.  You will see how the connectedness and the
kindness of the Creator to create and build you as individuals with
curiosity, with creativity, with imagination, with steadfastness and
perseverance.  All these things are part of the Creator Itself, and you
were created to express these capabilities, these characteristics of Its
Being.  That said, you can be assured that these 7 values within you,
created by God, given to you in your DNA to carry forward in all your lives
now and forevermore.  They are, in fact, more than just a part of your DNA,
but are a part of your morontial character and soul that is developing even
now.



If you have questions, you are most welcome to ask them.



*Craig:*  That should help tie everything together and make the whole more
obvious and apparent to people.



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, that is the intent of this.  The work that we have been
doing and writing through This One with guidance from Avilah has been
secular; it is the means by which we can approach all of humanity
regardless of religion, and so it is now time to bring all the ends
together in this one paper that we believe you will enjoy reading.



*More on the forgiving of debts*



*Jeff:*  Wonderful!  Professor Michael Hudson whom I have mentioned to you
before and whose book “Eating the Host” is on the reading list of our
syllabus, he has a new book out this summer titled “…and forgive them their
debts.”  (Sometime this summer, I don’t know exactly when.)  In this book
he covers the ancient practice of forgiving debts and jubilee years which
you have stated would be very difficult today.  Professor Hudson states
that in the book of Luke, Chapter 4, Jesus said, “’I’ve come to proclaim
the year of the Lord,” meaning the Jubilee year.’  He said, that meaning
the Jubilee year, he states that Jesus wanted to restore the debt
cancellation as it was to be according to Leviticus 25.  Is Professor
Hudson correct and if so, is this material suitable for our planned
expanded syllabus?



*MACHIVENTA:*  First, we do not comment on speculation of social, political
or economic nature.  We strive to give you structure and guidance for the
“now of life,” so that your tomorrows become more reasonable, sensible and
rational.  As for including it in your syllabus, it would be an interesting
read, but how it deals with social sustainability is another factor that
you must consider more closely.



*Economic disruption*



*Jeff.*  Well, Sir, if we are going to have economic disruption, whether it
is large earthquakes or pestilence, or something that is going to disrupt
things, we are certainly going to have some economic chaos that is going to
make something more like a Mount Krakatoa or Mount Tambora in a
just-in-time world, where there is barely enough to go around.  Clearly—at
least in my mind—we live in a very fragile world of finance that is debt
based and when the pieces get put together with the 7 core values as their
center, there is going to have to be, at least in my opinion, some system
of providing credit that is consistent with the 7 core values.  Is there
any historical precedent that we can look at and refer to on our web site?



*MACHIVENTA:*  I do not make comments that you necessarily need to put on
your web site; that is not part of the consideration for my discussion and
discourse with you.  I will answer the first part of your question now:  First,
there is a precedent that is something you are well acquainted with, and
even more so today than ever.  The precedent began with President Roosevelt
during the Great Depression, when it was decided that the government would
begin to have a deficit budget, that it would begin to produce programs
from money it had generated itself thus creating what is called “deficit
spending.”  This was of immense success, as everyone quite knows and it has
been used continuously since then off and on, but particularly in the last
20 years or so, most consistently to maintain a high quality of standard of
living, at least for this nation.



The second part of that is this:  It is not a recommendation, it is not
something that we offer you as a possibility, but it is offered as a
thought:  During the economic crisis that is surely to come, and it will be
of a global nature, then alternatives and solutions must be thought of,
which would include only one possibility, and that of the forgiveness of
debts.

  In this scenario, you would see in the reference to the deficit spending,
would be the opposite of that where the forgiveness of debts would create a
credit when the debts of individuals would be cancelled.  If that were to
occur now, it would cause even more indebtedness and truly it would only
exacerbate the debt problem now.  The forgiveness of personal debts must
wait to become the final and only way to resolve the international economic
crisis and global depression.  Then, you would be giving your economy in
computer terms, a “refresh,” meaning that you would refresh it to a time
before, a restoration point that is earlier.



Thirdly, as you can see from the status of the economy of the world now it
seems to be running quite well, is it not?  It is.  The deficit spending of
individuals now has been of a great boon to nations that import to the
United States, meaning principally China.



Fourthly, if there were an agreement of status quo that the United States
would continue to buy and China would continue to sell and acquire a
greater abundance of credit, the world economy would continue much as it is.




Fifthly, the thought of paying back the egregiously huge debt of the United
States to its citizens and to other nations is beyond comprehension and is
impossible.  There will never be a paying off of the debts of the United
States to other nations.



Sixthly and seventh, in retrospect it would seem, would it not, the
forgiveness of debts, at least to a certain degree of everyone, would be a
reasonable course.  The seventh is this, the summation of these
circumstances could change in immense magnitude during the state of
incredible economic unbalance and chaos that would ensue immediately and
long after an economic crisis occurred in the world.  The economic crisis
may be of such extent that it would last for more than 10 years.  This
would be in parallel with the Great Depression of the 1930’s and early
1940’s.  So as you see, in summation with all this, this will become a
highly probable and incredibly complicated situation.  The best method
beforehand is to use super computers to run algorithms on a “what if”
basis, and then put in the factor that debts would be forgiven.  You know
and we know quite well that given the current circumstances of your
economy, that if a world economic collapse occurred, that everyone would be
seeking repayment of debts so they could pay their own debts.  The
significance and logic of what the Hebrews did so long ago, makes eminent
sense, at least for a small tribe or clan of people.  How it applies to
your world given the general egregious avarice, and the incredible a 1%:99%
divide is another thing that will create havoc in your global economic
situation, nation by nation.  I hope this satisfies your question?



*In history, what would be comparable to this economic disruption?*



*Jeff:*  Yes, Sir, you told us it would be very difficult and very
complicated, and obviously it is, so there really isn’t anything in
comparison in history that would be appropriate to our current
circumstances; is that basically what you are saying to me?



*MACHIVENTA:*  That is correct.  The only parallel that would exist would
be the investment bubbles that had occurred before 1929, which were the
major cause for the subsequent Depression.



*Jeff:*  Thank you for that clarification.



*MACHIVENTA:*  With supercomputers and algorithms the situation of the
global economy is no more complicated than predicting global weather.
Predicting
weather is based on the continuing measurements of weather effects and
outcomes and generators around the world.  It is a closed system and
programs there have been programs run that take this into account, that
take other anomalies into account, such as the volcano having a tremendous
explosion which causes a decrease in sunlight to the planet by 50% over a
period of 3-5 years.  That is one scenario.  That is a very similar effect
that would occur if you had an economic depression.  Of course, as your
minds are now surmising, those two events would be connected, would they
not?  And certainly there would be a great consequence to the numbers of
humans that would be alive at the end of 3-5 years due to vast swaths of
starvation around the world.  We suggest you do more inquiry regarding this
situation of debt forgiveness, as one of the scenarios for developing other
“weather patterns” in your economic system.



*Roxie:*   Stéphane was not able to join us this morning; he’s in the air,
flying again for work.  Kindly, he did send me his questions.



*Focus on decision-making or the co-creative design team concept in
corporations?*



*Stéphane:*  Machiventa, You mentioned in the last session the change from
corporate structure to decision-making.  Is this purely a change in
teaching curriculum?  Should we be focusing our efforts solely on
decision-making or should we also consider putting efforts in the
co-creative design team concept?



*MACHIVENTA:*  To all parts of your question, “yes.”  Let me expand on
that, though:  First, in decision-making we do not see a stark division
between the decision-making that your company, for example, is using now,
which is principle based as opposed to value based.  We suggest the
combination of both, as both are essential to the progress of all
organizations.  First of all, you would need immediate decisions, you would
want to take into account how you are making decisions now; and secondly,
you would over long-term courses of action and decisions, you would want to
have the ongoing influence of the value system of decision-making that we
espouse and suggest.  Always in your making decisions based on the
principles that you are using now, that you would also have those values in
mind, or in front of you, as you consider those decisions.  The trouble
with corporations, and particularly governments of and other organizations,
is that when the short-term goals and short-term decision-making processes
neglect long-term outcomes and desired outcomes, then short-term goals and
decision-makings will cause the demise of that organization.



What is missing from principle decision-making now are the values for
long-term survival of your organization and the society.  Organizations
need to have an association meeting perhaps as a suggestion of deciding on
the course of corporations to help sustain societies and sustain the
environment of the world so that they can stay in business.  In a
sustainable society, staying in business also means that they become an
intentional influence for sustaining their host societies.  Business
organizations must consider the larger scope of human existence, i.e., how
to sustain their host societies which is the context for operations and
profit-making – staying in business.  There must be some thought behind the
immediate decision of how it would affect the outcome of decades and
centuries ahead, and not only including just the immediate state or
province or nation in which the corporation exists and the global context,
but takes into account all of civilization as the client/customer base for
your companies.  This is the comprehensive integrative economy and
decision-making aspect that we wish to promote to you and to all other
mega-corporations and international organizations.



*Stéphane:*  As a follow up question, can the two directions, co-creative
design teams and decision-making correlate to activity and efforts with or
without a TR?  I would think the co-creative design team is aligned with
activity with a TR and decision-making more amenable to day-to-day
dissemination without a TR?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you for your insight.



*Use of the phrase “co-creative” versus “validation”*



*Jeff:*  Going back to our web site, Liz said 2 weeks ago we were quite
correct to not use the phrase “co-creative,” so it would be appropriate for
our work then to speak of “validation of existing rules” and changing those
in line with the 7 core values.  Is that correct?  Should we be using
“validation” as a tab on the web site and examples that way?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, we support that and you also may wish to speak of the
“design and validation team,” which would be very useful.  I wish to make
an adjunctive statement here, that we suggest to corporations and companies
and organizations, which already have secretive sub-organizations within
them that these organizations could have a covert co-creative design team
within the organization that would be governed and staffed by those
individuals who believe in the co-creative design team process.  It is not
necessary that corporations be without the presence of God within them.  You
know and we know that this is highly personal, yet for any organization
including the Army, the CIA, that you know and we know that they have
covert organizations within them that use paranormal processes to “view”
circumstances psychically in other nations which has proven to be quite
accurate.  It seems reasonable that other processes that would be spiritual
in nature could also be used quite effectively within those organizations
to abbreviate the process to find conclusions that would be validated and
useful for the far distant future.  As you know from the co-creative design
team process where a Melchizedek acts as a consultant, the consultant
Melchizedek has as his primary duty to keep the team on course in its work,
to take into account the outcomes  of their work a century ahead or far
into the distance.  With the far-sightedness of celestial/morontial
insights, those will prove to be very helpful and useful to fulfill the
long-term goals of corporations for its profits and for its contributions
to societies and to the welfare of its employees, its clients and customers.







*Reasons for the 90 degree change in direction*



*Stéphane:*  You provided reasons for the 90 degree change in direction.  But
to elaborate, is it also because the previous teachings were fully
exhausted?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, they had been exhausted to that point.  If you see the
work of the Teaching Mission, the Magisterial Mission and our current work,
each of those missions contains what we call teaching modules, that one
module will be initiated and completed.  It will lead to another module and
so on.  Any good teacher will provide the basis for modules 4 or 5 steps
ahead early on.  The foundations for future modules must be developed in
current time, therefore it is not unusual for us to complete a module, then
proceed to another module or two, and then go back to a previous module and
bring it back into existence so that it helps to fulfill what needs to be
done.  For us this is an expedient way of proceeding efficaciously so that
our next modules are effective; they must complement each other, one to the
other.  For instance we have spoken that we have completed the module of
the corporate development for social sustainability, family clinics and
many other aspects.  It is not that those will be forgotten.  Certainly not!
You can rely upon us to use the corporate structure in the future as it
lends itself to the broader dissemination of the modules that followed it.  It
is important that mortals be able to feel, see, and know that there is some
logic, some rationality, some higher reasoning involved in the process of
the development of the Correcting Time.



These comments I am providing to you now are insights into the workings of
our teaching and our Correcting Time and through the Missions.  It is
important that you who have long-term insights and long-term perspectives
of our work see the logic of what we are doing and the reasoning behind it.
We have nurtured you, thousands of you, personally, individually to come to
this point with us for making decisions to continue your participation.  We
surely are not going to sacrifice you as soldiers in the frontline in these
changes.  No, our work is to support you to move with us as we move ahead
from one module to the other becoming more and more capable with you in
your societies to bring about the changes that we desire.



*Roxie:*  Machiventa, I see that you have answered the next 3 of his
questions in your answer so I won’t go into those, but going on with
Stéphane’s 4th question:



*Seeing the signs of the approaching cataclysms*



*Stéphane:*  If Acceleration is fully justified and required at this time,
are there signs we should be able to see that would indicate the fast
approaching cataclysms?  Being in the middle of it, an acceleration of
events is not always recognizable.



*MACHIVENTA:*  One moment.  Yes, you are correct that there are
recognizable signs to take note of and these are taken into consideration
of prior developments within your societies and your cultures.  By
comparing the two, you can foresee what is to come.  First of all, the
cataclysms have already begun; some have not come into expression yet, but
will and when they do, those later ones will come into existence rather
suddenly.  What you now perceive with the weather and the melting of the
ice caps in Greenland and the rise in sea levels is an ongoing cataclysm
that will be gathering more and more momentum, and as that continues the
destruction will become exponential rather than arithmetically increasing.  So
the weather and the global warming and the rise of the oceans are connected.
Destruction from weather will be immense as you are seeing that there are
now tornados all over North America in places that previously had not
experienced them with any frequency.  This is a comparison to the history
of the last 100 years of weather that you know of.



When you look at the macrocosm of the economic markets around the world,
you see in your language an increase of volatility that prices go up and
down rather rapidly, and that it is affected and the predictability is
further compromised by use of computers for buying and selling.  This
aggravates the volatility of the market which will cause further extremes
to bring the economy out of balance.  Yes, there are safeguards in the
computer designs and in the software to prevent extremes.  However, the
uncertainty of the market is a primary factor for predicting the collapse
of the economic market.  Right now you see the global market as being very
solid and very sure, that the global market is increasing in its
profitability for most nations, and that there is solid confidence for
investing reserves to take advantage of that growth.  As we suggested, the
world economy is one of those last cataclysms that will change dramatically
and traumatically within a very short period of time, and it will be caused
either by one, a manmade event, such as the destruction of the Middle East
due to nuclear weapons, or due to some cataclysm of a geologic, atmospheric
event of some sort or the combination thereof, of weather, volcanism,
tectonics and so on.  The example of the decrease of sunlight to the
surface of the earth would be one of the causes for the global economic
collapse.  It would also augment tremendous increase of military
activities, both of which would cause tremendous pain and agony to billions
of people.



The signs are all around you, but the trouble is that you are much like the
frog in boiling water; you can boil a frog without it knowing it by
increasing the temperature slightly a little bit at a time.  This is how
you see it very clearly in your world; as This One has given example in his
writings of “On Dialog” by David Bohm.  [Bohm, David 2004, *On Dialogue, *Ed.
by Lee Nichol, Preface by Peter NM. Senge, Routledge Classics, London.]  What
he said was that when you are unaware of what is happening, you do not have
a solution.  In fact, when you assume that everything is as it is and it
will continue that way, you do not have an insight to the change that is
occurring, you continue to hold that belief and faith that what you assume
is correct now will be correct into the future.  And it is only when there
is dramatic change are you aware that change has occurred, and only then
can you perceive that it has occurred over a period of time.  This is the
current status of your economies as there is continued inappropriate
leveraging of assets to buy more and more goods and services and to create
more and more debt by consumers.  This is a highly fragile situation, and
yes, the Central Banks do suggest keeping large reserves in the banking
system, but those will prove grossly inadequate when the collapse
occurs.  Signs
of a booming economy are that everything will stay the same, which gives
those who are willing to take risks the opportunity to invest more, to take
greater risks for greater return.  Very few people are prepared for the
status of how to have reserves on hand to survive the coming global
depression.  Only those who have magnificent and huge sums of reserves
personally on hand will survive well.  This is a proven fact that came out
of the Great Depression of the 30’s and early 40’s; those who are in debt
will surely lose everything, and those who do not have debt can survive,
and those who have assets set aside can survive quite well.  These are
known factors.



When you see the incredible fragile imbalance of your economics down to a
personal level in societies now with immense personal debt load, you are
foreseeing the future.  Monitoring these as you monitor the weather would
be most helpful to assist corporations to survive the coming global
depression.  There are people who would scoff at what I have said, and they
would say, “We see no evidence of a global depression occurring,” well, my
friends, it is very much like the rattlesnake beside you as you walk down
the desert path—you do not see it but it is going to strike your leg when
you pass by—and that is probably as suddenly as a global depression will
occur; it is invisible to you now unless you are very careful to watch the
changes that are occurring.



*You have no integrated monitoring system for your economies*



Your meteorological associations and agencies are very adept at following
ongoing real-time changes in your weather to know what is going to happen
today, tomorrow, the next day and perhaps even 3 months into the future.  Do
you know as much for your world economy?  No, you do not.  You do not have
an integrated monitoring system for your economies; neither do you have a
means to assess the risks involved that are existing, or the possibility or
probability that they will become expressed.  Your weather systems around
the world have a much more integrated real-time measurement process for
changes that are going on compared to your economic/financial systems
around the world.  It is always “Me first; I’m going to get mine before you
do and I’m going to make the most money compared to you,” and so on.  Because
of the primal motivation to acquire more and the selfishness behind many of
the decisions in the finance and corporate sectors, the global depression
is inevitable.



*Roxie:*  Very interesting!



*The time of expression for the process of the 90 degree turn*



*Jeff:*  Machiventa, I would like to revisit, if possible, a statement that
you made early in the discussion today, and that was speaking about the 90
degree turn in your efforts to kind of goad us in our efforts to that 90
degree turn; you said that we have seen changes in the last 6 weeks, and
between now and “Michaelmas,” we will see more.  Are you telling us that
this new direction will be kind of in place by the end of August?

[Note:  “Michaelmas”—the feast of Archangel Michael on Sept 29.]



*MACHIVENTA:*  I did not suggest that.  It is important to know that there
will be changes, there will be developments in our… one moment… we began
the process of the 90 degree turn 6 weeks ago and it will be in full
expression by Christ Michael’s Birthday in August.  That does not mean that
it will be in place worldwide.  We are initiating the 90 degree turn so
that decision-making can be much more rational; it must be much more
logical; and it must be based on the 7 core values in order for your
nations to recover from the cataclysms that will be coming.



*Use 7 core values to make all decisions*



Decision-making is at heart of all that happens in your world.  What
underlie all decisions, all the time, always are values.  It is essential
that the values of corporations, for example, that its costs and its
profits be reasonably assessed and make decisions on that, while also at
the same time, keeping in mind the 7 core values are essential for the
longevity of staying in business so that you are able to make those
short-term decisions.  We have a very large audience base, as you know,
through the many God-centered religions.  It is simply a matter of
convincing over 4 billion people that it is reasonable to use these values
to make decisions, because God gave them to you and that they are innate to
each one of you.  There must be a certain comfort level in accepting these
values for making decisions.



To make other decisions that do not take this into account, then you do so
on your own intelligence and your own personal egoistic needs for your
positions of power, control and authority, and as you use those to garner
profits and to stay in business.  Sometime in the future the ego must bend
to the will of your world that there is a certain degree of selfishness
which is destructive to others at the expense of yourself, whether it is
you as an individual or a mega-billion corporation.  It is important that
there be some weighing of this to stay in business in the long-term.  You
will find in the future when the collapse occurs that there will be those
businesses that are ongoing, but they will be continuing to shrink and
shrink in size, not through the sale of their assets, but simply because
they have no income and no revenue to support their existing structures.  That
must be taken into account; when that occurs then there will be
tens-of-millions, hundreds-of-millions of individuals out of work, which
will aggravate the whole situation and they will not be able to afford to
buy iPhones and Swatches and your nice technologically based products.  They
simply will have a hard time even to put food on the table.



*Jeff:*  One of the mornings I was in stillness, the word “Promise Keepers”
came into my head.  I remember when that organization got started and was
gathering minimal races and faiths into large assemblies in coliseums and
to essentially take an oath of truthfulness and faithfulness to the vows
that they had made.  Is this an organization that we should approach?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Again you use the word “should.”  You would make your
questions far more profitable to yourself if you would ask for and rephrase
your question of means by which you gain benefit from it.  It is a
speculative question and we do not like to answer speculative questions as
it leads to too much confusion on your part, simply because you have not
thought through the question.



*Debt-based financial systems*



*Craig:*  I was wondering if you wanted to at all get into the subject of
money or our debt-based financial system that just seems insane, and other
ways it might be done, like having a treasury directly print money, and
then there are other topics along those lines like crypto-currencies and
advanced societies on other worlds that don’t even have money; they use a
totally different means of doing business.  Are those sorts of subjects you
would like to speak about?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes.  The solutions that you have striven to put into place
to maintain your banking and economic system are all manmade.  Therefore,
you will not change the ways you are doing business until circumstances
require and dictate that you do otherwise.  Through our TR session we have
been trying to help you to get insights into how to conduct your human
business in a way that becomes sustainable, that you will create human
systems that are in agreement and alignment with the values that sustain
your species.



Banks, organizations, corporations, and governments do not have the 7
values embedded in their DNA, in their organizational DNA.  They do not
have a DNA strand, chromosomal strands, genetic strands within them in
which for us to imprint.  Those are manmade and given to your organizations
in the form on their organizational documents and their policies and their
procedures.  In order for organizations and whole societies based on
organizations to survive, they must come in alignment with the 7 values
that we have given you.  These values must be embedded in the founding
documents and the procedural and policy documents that every company has,
so as to make decisions that contribute to the sustainability of all,
everyone.  As you have a very primitive profit-and-loss type of economy on
this planet, you can be assured that embedding these values into
organizations will be an extremely tedious long-drawn-out process that will
be resisted at every turn by executives and policy boards and executive
decision-makers in every company and corporation and government that exists.
None will want to secede their authority, power and control.



*We are to embed and infuse the 7 core values into all of our systems*



As we said before, we are striving to give you these values and how to
infuse them and embed them and incorporate them into your organizations so
that individuals will have the framework for organizations to help rebuild
themselves, your societies and your civilization on a sustainable basis
after these cataclysms have occurred.  What you are seeing in these
sessions right now, through your own question generation is the “how to” of
all this; how to make the transition that will be an arduous, difficult
task and in striving to do so, you will find many arguments and many
contests against you as you are trying to do that in your current
circumstances.  The best you can do is to make your boards of directors and
official executive decision-makers aware of these values and the need to
keep them in mind for the decades ahead.  These values and what we are
sharing with you is essential to share with your younger generations.
Decision-making
must be infused with these thoughts in their indoctrination, enculturation,
and socialization processes for your children.  We know and you know the
change for the old heads of these corporations and governments is not
possible at this time.  What you must strive to do is to be aware of them,
become the teachers of younger generations, so that they are prepared to
rebuild on the ashes of your societies and organizations.



*Craig:*  Thank you very much!  We’re coming back to the same thing, “do
the program; get with the program.”



*MACHIVENTA:*  Mr. Craig, you have an audience who are clapping.
(Laughter.)



*Daniel:*  Craig, you have pretty well summed up everything they have
taught us over the last 6 years.



*Craig:*  In my statement, I didn’t expect that answer, but that’s the
right answer, isn’t it?



*Jeff:*  It’s not complicated but it’s not easy.



*Daniel:*  Don’t we have a quiet member who hasn’t asked a question yet?
Liz?



*Feeling completely overwhelmed*



*Liz:*  I’m just kind of dumbstruck by the answers to the questions that
have been asked already.  I don’t have a prepared question, and I’m feeling
small and insignificant and don’t quite know what role I can play in all of
this except for the minute things that I’m doing in my daily life.  I see
these things as being so huge and so out of control that I feel inadequate
to any task that seems to be before us.  Maybe it’s just my mood today
because I don’t normally feel like this, but I’m feeling quite overwhelmed,
and so I don’t have a question today.  I feel like I’m going to contact
Marylhurst University and present them with our proposal for our course in
sustainability or Planetary Management, and that seems like such a
miniscule drop in the bucket, and yet I shall pursue that.



*Being a vital and essential part of what is to come about*



*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you for your comments, Liz.  They are deeply
appreciated and we feel your sense of being awestruck by the challenges
ahead and the degree of contribution you can make to the resolution.  You,
however, are a vital and essential part of what is to develop and to come
about.  Your web site is primarily an educational site; it is to prepare
individuals for thinking outside the box of the consumerism of your
contemporary society and economies.  Your web site is a means to teach
social sustainability and to apprise and provide summations of these
sessions there for individuals to read.  There is one in South Africa,
Marthe Muller, who has created summations of sessions which are incredibly
accurate and useful to those readers who are not willing to consume 10-15
pages of transcripts every 2 weeks.  This is an essential part of what you
could provide on your web site as education from the celestial realm.  Your
web site is co-creative, therefore our presence is known to those who go to
your site and read the materials.  The wisdom that comes through these
materials is proof of other intelligence as provided to your people, your
societies and organizations and your civilization.



Your work is… we would like you to place yourself 20 years into the future
and look back and see the steps that you took to change the minds, or to
inform the minds of thousands, tens-of-thousands of people who came to your
web site in a time of need to know how to proceed.  With that in mind, your
web site could be very productive very quickly.  You would make a major
contribution to the restoration of your world to social, political and
economic stability.  This is the purpose of your web site, as we see it.  This
is not some monument to anyone’s ego; it is a working functional site that
must be supported to last into the future, even if it morphs in form and by
name.  It is something that people can go to.  (Pause.)



[*Daniel:*  Liz, what was the last part you said about your situation—you
had 2 points in mind.  One is that your site is vital to informing the
future, and the 2nd point is…?



*Liz:*  I just mentioned that I was feeling moved to take our educational
program up to Marylhurst University.]



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, we have been personally acquainted with Marylhurst
College in the Portland Metro area.  It is a very affable institution.  This
is something that would be useful to them; they would see social
sustainability as not the counterpoint to material sustainability, but the
connecting link that completes material sustainability as contributing to
humanity.  You will find one person who will be avidly interested in what
you are doing.  This will be your point of contact to implement what you
see possible.  Your work at Southern Oregon University in Ashland is
commendable and useful; it has been a training field for you to work out
what needs to be done.  You will find, however, that private colleges have
private interests and that they have particular penchants of interests for
particular areas that they see as useful and vital to fulfill their mission
and the charter of their organization.  When you find those that are in
alignment with our work, then we ask you to “pounce” on them.  Thank you!



*Liz:*  Thank you for that vote of confidence; I appreciate it, Machiventa.



*Roxie:*  Stéphane has two last questions I’d like to get in, if we may?



*Are cataclysms the only way to achieve this outcome?*



*Stéphane:*  You mentioned that our decision-making is short-sighted and
provides decisions with paths that are unsustainable.  The cataclysm will
provide opportunities to long-sighted decision-making with sustainable
solutions.  Is cataclysm the only way to achieve this outcome?



*MACHIVENTA:*  There is one word for that and that is, “Yes.”  There is,
however, a cautionary statement that we give to you:  One is that *we are
not the cause of those cataclysms!*  Christ Michael in the creation of your
world and his Local Universe brought into existence events and developments
of a physical nature on all planets.  You will see these
mechanical-material effects come into existence through the cataclysms.  They
will cause a cascade of social problems and eventually, through our
co-creative participation with you, we will develop with you solutions to
the problems that exist now.  The answer is, “yes,” that the cataclysms are
inevitable and the only means by which we can bring the Will of Christ
Michael’s presence and the development of the Days of Light and Life into
existence.  As David Bohm has said in his short book, “On Dialogue” that
once again, when you assume what will exist in the future, then you have
also assumed that you will be unable to see any solutions to any problems
that exist because you also do not see the problems!  Therefore, “yes” to
your question again those cataclysms are not the solution to the current
problems, but are the means by which you will create those solutions.



*What activities can we do today to survive the cataclysms?*



*Stéphane:*  And lastly, what are the best activities we can undertake
today that are most likely to survive the cataclysms?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you so very much for your deeply insightful
question—intuitive question!

·       First of all, you have begun the process already by being
God-centered.

·       Second of all, you have striven to renew your God-centered
connection with your Thought Adjuster and your communion with Christ
Michael, Nebadonia and their hierarchies of Light.

·       Thirdly, you are contributing by participating in the work that we
are doing here.

·       Fourth, you have begun to strive to gather insights in how to make
this wisdom applicable to your current organization for its survival.

·       Fifth, you have begun to see that there are possibilities for
changing the outcomes by beginning in the present time.

·       Sixth, you are striving to achieve a state of sustainability.  Once
the mind has become curious to know if that could be possible, then the
mind also begins to search for possibilities that will fulfill the answer
to that question.

·       And seventh, you have the means within you to make this known to
many people in many ways.  You can do this by unconsciously but
intentionally being in contact with other individuals, Thought
Adjuster-to-Thought Adjuster for those individuals to become curious to the
possibility of sustainability on a long-term basis, both materially and
socially, and corporately.



*Roxie:*  I thank you and Stéphane thanks you very much.



*Liz:*  As do we all.



*Closing comments*



*MACHIVENTA:*  Once again we thank you for your presence and thank you for
reading these transcripts.  You are the way into the future for your
children and grandchildren to be sustained; you are the means by which
decisions will be made that will bring that outcome about.  You are the
ones who will be here during the time of the cataclysms when they erupt
through your recollection of the means to rebuild your societies, that
recovery will be possible for your children and your grandchildren,
great-grandchildren and future generations.  You are ones who begin to
understand that values underlie all decisions, all the time, for all
concerns, whether they are material, social or spiritual.  These values are
the ones that will guide you into the course of sustainability and the
logic of their presence in your world will become known before too long,
and you will understand how you logically must begin making decisions that
are in agreement with the outcomes and the Days of Light and Life.  Christ
Michael has given you the tools; he has given you the mind and he has
embedded the values within you to use to make those decisions.  Now you
have become co-creatively responsible with us for the care and the
nurturance and the recovery of the lives of your children, grandchildren
and future generations, and for this we give you great thanks and wish you
good day.





[Announcement:  Liz and Jeff are requesting submissions from anyone who is
interested in contributing to the “Socially Sustainable Families” page on
the www.7corevalues.org website to write a few paragraphs and submit
them.  Send
your contributions to:  info at 7corevalues.org ]



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