[tmtranscripts] NET #59, Mar. 11, 2019

[Roxanne Andrews]

*2019-3-11, NET #59, Machiventa          *



*New Era Transition #59 – Stable Economy; Equalizing Wealth; Decreasing
Population – Mar. 11, 2019*



*Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager*



Topics:

Assumptions

Preparing for a decreasing economy and its reconstruction

Stable future for a global economy

The oneness of humanity

Desire for global peace

Overcoming national differences

The commonality of the Days of Light and Life

Building a well balanced personality

The age of capitalism

The next era of capitalism

Where does wealth come from?

Equalizing wealth

The benefit of distributing wealth

Unification of purpose and meaning in life

How does this unfold?

Would this be fertile ground for co-creative teams?

Holism is a new way of thinking

How does capitalism accept global wealth distribution?

The coming decimation of population

New trends in employment

Your world is coming apart

Library of Wisdom

Pandemic

The need to keep employees with the decrease in population

Climate change and the ability to grow food

What is next on the curriculum for this group?

A blend of democracy and socialism?

Avoid the label of socialism

Developing a “Beloved Community”

Developing a city with 7 core values

Presentation of an overview

Challenges of life



TR:  Daniel Raphael, PhD



Team members present:  Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Jeff Cutler,
Stéphane Labonteé and Sherille Raphael



Invocation:  Daniel



*March 11, 2019*



*Assumptions*



*MACHIVENTA:*  Good morning, this is Machiventa; I am here with you once
again.  Your world is continuing to evolve socially, economically,
politically and in many other ways that you have not anticipated.  Perhaps
one of the greatest fallacies and errors in thinking that we see common
among all humankind is that of making assumptions, that tomorrow will be
like today, and that the day after and years after and a century after will
be pretty much as it is today.  You realize as we have so long ago that
assumptions are the pitfalls for great error and for great disasters.  It
is a function as you have seen in your world which leads to being
blindsided.  One is that we particularly point out today is that, as
economic theorists and philosophers have been recently discussing, there is
always the economic penchant for assuming that the positive always
dominates the future, and that it is just a matter of figuring out how to
overcome those obstacles that are created in the market and through the
economies of the world, and through the trends of purchasing by the public
that they can overcome what comes tomorrow.



*Preparing for a decreasing economy and its reconstruction*



As one astute scientist has noted that almost none—none—have brought to
bear upon the scenario of decreasing profits, of stagnant profits, or
decreasing profits.  They have held the same for the economic situation of
the world; they have not anticipated and have actually no theories or plans
or scenarios in mind for dealing with stagnant growth, neutral growth or
degrowth—decreasing growth—on an ongoing basis.  What has caused most
economies to fail is the unanticipated outcome of those developments, or
the initiation of them.  Even as many as several thousand, tens of
thousands economists at the beginning of the recession of 2008 did not
anticipate what would occur.  They had no scenarios for existing in a
decreasing economy, how to preserve their existence while living in a
decreasing economy.  This is paramount to the reconstruction of your
economies, your societies and your governments in the future.



*Stable future for a global economy*



Of all the infrastructures of the world, the global economy down to the
local financing and your local bank are most important for re-establishing
an ongoing and stable future for your societies and nations.
Reconstruction of your societies will not be possible without some kind of
functional economy on the local, to national to global basis.  We point
this out because this is one area that is, while the global economy has
immense inertia because of the size and mass of the economic activity of
the world, it nonetheless has a tendency to have these long trends either
up or down.  It is rare that there is any stability or neutral growth.
National economies are not used to having a stable economy, meaning that
there is no growth and there is no loss of that growth that has been
achieved.  This is an important distinction that must be made in a stable
and peaceful world.  It is the situation that exists primarily in the Days
of Light and Life.  What you need to plan for are those days, weeks, years,
decades and centuries that lead up to that, because they will be quite
tumultuous until humanity/mankind learns the wisdom of a global economy
that is stable.



*The oneness of humanity*



We have spoken to you numerous times in the past of the oneness of all
humanity that the commonalities of all humankind are in each individual.
There are billions of individuals who have these same commonalities; the
only visible differences are perhaps your skin color, the language you use,
or perhaps the dress that you use.  These things will become forgettable
and you will overlook them in the future, as you know that people are the
same as you are, that they have the same values, the same motivations and
the same desires.  Everyone searches for peace; you have searched for
peace; you have thought about peace; you have worked on peace; you have
worked on peace projects; you have marched for peace; you have written
placards and had them outside of state capitals, and so on.



*Desire for global peace*



The peace movement is global as everyone wants to have peace, yet the
substantiation, the baseline for peace is stability; that means a oneness,
a likeness.  And as you have seen from your readings in the *Urantia Book*,
it talks about one language, one global language, one global economy, one
global political system.  That is the oneness.  Where you see differences
are where there is ego or nationalism to the extremes, and those
individuals who seek power and authority and wealth from their positions,
who seek to have unstability in order to take advantage of the largess, the
goodness of those who want peace.  You live in a very difficult world, as
you have very difficult individuals who occupy positions of power.  You
note this as you observe the work of your national Congress in the United
States, as it has plunged itself into incapability; it has not the
capability to amend itself, right itself, correct itself or even deal with
the issues that are coming forth other than through argumentation and
showing of differences.  It is not so much important to find commonalities,
but to find differences and then to beat down the opposition so they do not
exist.  This is untenable; this is simply untenable; it does not work.
Compromise is a good partial solution when times are difficult between
oppositions.  However, what is most desired is consensus above the
majority; in other words, you are seeking consensus above 50% of the
population, where 55, 60, 80% of the people agree on a certain course of
action, and the nation can then proceed with speed, effectiveness and the
will to do good, and to complete those efforts.



*Overcoming national differences*



When you look at this in the light of your national situation, whether it
is in England or the United States and other nations, you find that those
people in power, those positions of power, those agents of power are now
incapable—incapable—of overcoming the differences that they have.  And they
are incapable of overcoming those because they hold the same ideas, the
same identification with crystallized, stratified positions of authority
and power.  This is the beginning of a necessary (r)evolution.  We could
put a small “r” before the word evolution, which would be accurate.  What
we are seeking through social evolution is political growth, maturity and
development, the evolution of all social institutions, which include
democratic process, health, education and the family.  As you can see, the
Melchizedeks and the Most Highs have their work cut out for them.  The Most
Highs are deeply invested in all social institutions and all associations,
cooperatives and organizations involved in each of those separate social
institutions, and in many of those organizations in each of those social
institutions.



If you are following the long arc of social evolution in these respective
areas, you realize that your world now lives in a very primitive state,
meaning that it does not have the consciousness to look at itself and
improve itself by taking action independently of the public being hurtful
for them to do so.  This is a most difficult situation, as you see.  Your
world is now quivering on the brink of *immense* global transition.  When I
say “you,” I mean the whole world, the global population, civilization, the
nations and all societies are in anticipation of the next evolutionary
stage of civilizational development.  I say the word “civilizational”
intentionally, because it will include all nations, all cultures, all
ethnicities, all governments and so on.



*The commonality of the Days of Light and Life*



When you look at the oneness of the Days of Light and Life, what is it
based on?  How can it possibly come into being?  It can come into being by
having the consciousness and awareness of the commonalities of all
humankind.  I have spoken about this many, many times in the past; those
are the 7 innate values that are embedded in your DNA, and these 7 values
are the cause of human motivation to strive for greater and greater things
for primary values or ones which will cause your nation to grow and
thrive.  And also to diminish themselves and to become destroyed, so the
competition and the bullheadedness that they cannot see the problems in
front of them and cannot overcome themselves to solve those problems.



*Building a well balanced personality*



Fortunately, humanity does have the 3 secondary values, which give all
humanity the characteristics of being human, that is the well balanced
personality between the will to do and the will to be, and it is the will
to be as a state of existence that allows you to become spiritually
inclined, to practice spiritual practices to meditate and to aspire to
become like your Father in Heaven, Christ Michael and those who have
graduated into the morontial realm and are preparatory of fusing:  This is
your aspiration!  You have the means to do it, you have the capability, now
do you have the will to do that on a personal basis, a family basis, and a
societal basis?  We are here to help you bridge that gap, which is yawning
between what is and what will be.  We are here to help your civilization,
you individually, your families, your societies, governments and economies
to make that leap into the future, confident that you will land safely on
your feet and that you will do well, and that your children and your
great-great-great-great-great grandchildren will thrive in the future.  You
are responsible for them thriving in the future, and it is our
responsibility by the dictate of Christ Michael to assist you in this
co-creative process, and as we have said hundreds of times before, we
cannot do this without your co-creative participation.  I for one,
Machiventa Melchizedek, and my cohort of many other Melchizedeks around
this world are deeply excited by the possibility of what your world can
become, and we are excited by the possibility of what we can become
together with you, and what we will produce together for your world.



*Stéphane:*  Good morning, Machiventa.  How are you today?



*MACHIVENTA:* I am very well, thank you.  I have not had any colds or flu
to overcome; I am as healthy as can be and willing to be of service to
Christ Michael.



*Stéphane:*  Very good; I’m sure there are plenty of problems that arrive
to you every day that you need to take care of so it is good to see that
you are healthy.  (*Machiventa:*  You are correct.)



*The age of capitalism*



So, in the current so called age of capitalism where continuous growth
seems to be the only path forward that people will consider from both a
government or for political or financial perspectives, these are the
drivers and it seems society has to suffer the consequences of those
concepts.  I have several questions about what you have talked about today
and how this cannot continue, but what would you qualify the next age
beyond capitalism?  We have had communism that has proven to fail, we have
had socialism that has proven to fail, there are parts of the country of
Europe that seems to take care of their people much better than the rest of
us, but what is the next age incrementally?  We know that Light and Life is
the ultimate goal, but what is the next age beyond capitalism?  What would
that be called? How would that be described?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Let us wait to put a label on it until after I have spoken
about this topic.  As you know, personally know, and other business
strategists know that the future does not appear as a *fait accompli*; it
does not appear out of nothingness.  All successful ventures have built
upon the successes of the past, while minimizing or depreciating or ridding
themselves of those processes which are self-destructive.  If we extend
this same analysis, this same analogy to the future economy, what you will
see is a shared capitalism.  It will be the sharing of wealth, because that
is the means to perpetuate growth, maintain growth and to create social
stability.



*The next era of capitalism*



As you know so very well from the “Occupy Wall Street” and the developments
since then, and the “Green Spring” in the Arab countries, and so on, is
that the disruptions—economic, social, political—stem from inequalities.
And in the case of your national economy, those gross inequalities that are
actually legitimate; there are no laws forbidding people to have more than
one billion dollars; there are no laws, no precedents for limiting wealth
or its growth, or how it is distributed.  For billionaires it is a
difficult situation as they know that there is a limit to growth, they know
that there is a limit to how much money they can accumulate on a personal
basis, but nonetheless it occupies their time and allows them to have a
meaningful and purposeful life.  In the next era of capitalism this will
change; it will change necessarily because there will be a concerted
effort, because of the commonality of the primary value equality to ensure
that the distribution of wealth becomes more level, that there is no longer
a 1%:99%, but more appropriately a 45%:55%, meaning that 45% of the wealth
in the world is distributed through one mechanism or another to those who
have not.  That is one thought right there.



*Where does wealth come from?*



I will start the second thought and that is this:  Where does wealth come
from?  Wealth comes from production; it comes from growth.  That thought
may sound very Marxist to you, but it is not Marxian thinking at all, as
this involves the means to assist individuals to gather wealth for their
own benefit and for their children.  If you accept the fact that wealth as
money is developed from growth, whether it is from growth of 1,000 acres of
corn, or whether it is from 10,000 acres of wheat, or whether you own 2,000
filling stations in the world, it comes from growth.  There is money that
accrues from this investment and those are profits after labor is paid.



*Equalizing wealth *



We predict that in the future in order to equalize—at least in these early
stages—equalize the wealth in the world, is that workers, employees, will
begin to be seen as investors; they are investing their life in this
pursuit of work and that they are no longer minions who come and go from
their homes to work in the factories, stores, and so on to do the work,
that they are investing their lives and they have a true investment in the
success of the business as does the invested owners.  You may say there is
a distinction between invested owners who put their own personal money into
the wealth as a stockholder into a corporation, and employees who are
assigned their wealth, that investment, they would be called employee
investors, as compared to vested shareholders… [This is Daniel:  I am
stumbling because I don’t know this area very well] …and that the means to
prevent social disruption and political disruption is to insure that those
workers become invested in the companies they work for, in that they become
recipients of dividend disbursals.  This may seem very violent to you who
are invested in corporations and so on, but it is something that is on a
grand global strategic level, necessary for the stability of your world.



*The benefit of distributing wealth*



The benefit of distributing the wealth in this way is that those employees
are also consumers and you can be assured that they will surely spend their
new found wealth on cars, houses and education for their children, and so
on, and so on, and so on, that this money is not lost; it is in fact,
reinvested into your organizations and to your corporations on a global
basis, rather than an individual making earnings and saving for retirement,
and then having their savings lost by someone who misappropriates the money
in some financial scheme or institution.  It would be the assurance that
everyone is invested, everyone is concerned about their welfare and outcome
and leadership of their corporation.  Employees then would become
participants in the later development of this new economic era; the
employees would then begin to take on roles of awareness in the management
of the organization.



You know and we know that the education of the populous in financial and
investment affairs, in operation and management of corporations, is
something that is not familiar to employees, thus there would be a need for
a global-wide corporate education program to educate, train and inform
employees about how to run a corporation.  You might think that this is
socialistic in an endeavor, however we see it as highly educational that
individuals will apply this same wisdom and knowledge and skills and
education to their own personal lives, and that of educating their
children.  The benefit would be far greater than would be the “loss”
because loss is only to those who think that they should have 95% of the
earnings and 5% to those invested employees, as example.  There is a
tremendous benefit too, as this allows for the more flexible thinking of
investment and use of employees and how to create a higher quality of life
for employees on the job, off the job in their communities, in their homes
and in their elder years.



*Unification of purpose and meaning in life*



You then come to see rather than stratification of population, you begin to
see the unification of purpose of life and meaning for individuals, no
matter how much money they have, that individuals then are more capable of
becoming employed and want to be employed as they participate in this
employee investment program.  Work is honorable; you know work is
honorable; it is a good thing for people as it provides a discipline to
their thinking and to their lives.  It provides a regular scheme of living
and growing and becoming more.  This is a gross outline of the next era
that you call, and if you want to put a label on it, then let us call it
“Employee Capitalism,” or some similar name as that.  It should be
something that you should be comfortable with, though of course it will
antagonize those old guard capitalists and inflame them immensely.



*How does this unfold?*



*Stéphane:*  So, how does this unfold then?  If you take these concepts and
present them to the current leaders of corporations, I would say a small
percentage of them would say they would be willing to accept those
concepts, so it will not be a legislated outcome; there won’t be laws
forcing companies to do this; it will first start as we have a few
companies that do this already, but it will start on a small basis and will
unfold with few leaders accepting these concepts moving forward and seeing
the benefits, this movement will then grow.  Is that correct?



*MACHIVENTA:*  That is correct.  This would not be a legislative mandate;
it will be a culture change within the culture of a corporation or an
industry as that would show the way forward.  This One has read a book
called, “Maverick” by Semler, who did this very thing in Brazil, 10, 15, 20
years ago with great success.  Of course—I say “of course” rather
nonchalantly, but I do not say it in a cavalier manner—that necessity will
also make this necessary for the corporations to think about the change in
their corporate culture and their investment cultures.  It is important
that there be an incentive to do so for everyone concerned.  If you look at
the societal social policy point of view, it would surely decrease
impoverishment by those people still employed.  It is deplorable that you
have people who are employed full-time in your nation, who are not
spendthrifts, who are taking care of their lives carefully, but who are
still nonetheless at poverty level and below.  This is a sign of a
deteriorating society.  The impetus for this change comes from those people
who have a higher consciousness and can see the benefit of sharing that 1%
with the people who are employed in their company or corporation.  It does
not directly address the 99%, nor that it should.  It is important that
corporations and companies take a close look at how they are doing business
and the relationship with their employees.



*Would this be fertile ground for co-creative teams?*



*Stéphane:*  Thank you, Machiventa.  The next statement I was going to make
is that for those corporations to do this, would this be a fertile ground
to create co-creative teams, and a fertile ground for accepting the 7 core
values—or should we say the most fertile ground?



*MACHIVENTA:*  It would most definitely be the most fertile ground to begin
this project.  We also advise that in order to educate the employees that
the corporation or company begin to have design and validation teams in
their corporation to assist in the development of the policies to make
those transitions.  This has to be well thought through by management and
by employees; it gives the opportunity for education of all parties
concerned.  Developing those policies from a traditional standpoint will
end in failure, as they will be lacking in empathy and compassion.  And it
is from these 3 secondary values that you will be able to build upon those
successes with employees.  It requires an empathy to understand how
employees are living and a compassioned willingness to share profits with
employees.  Above all, for management and employees it is paramount that
the corporation survives; therefore giving away all the profits to
employees is ridiculous, as would be for all management and investors to
receive all the profits to themselves.  There must be, there will need to
be a functional, operational process that takes into consideration the
sustainability of the corporation itself, and the sustainability of the
employee, public base upon which the corporation relies upon for its new
employees.  It becomes more of a holism.



*Holism is a new way of thinking*



Let me take your statement a little bit farther, it is not that the
corporation becomes a mother and father, or that this becomes a family.  Do
not think of this as a family situation at all; this is an
economic/societal relationship to sustain the longevity of the corporation,
the individuals, families and the welfare of all concerned.  This is a new
way of thinking where there is a holism that the corporation begins to
think, “How do we distribute $5 Billion in a quarter?”  In today’s
language, that is laughable.  How would you do that meaningfully in the
future?  You would, of course, find a healthcare system that is mutually
agreeable to everyone; there would be an investment program for the
children of employees to go to college, or to go to technical school, to
help those without to have the resources to unlock the potential that each
child brings into the world.  And so, it is not that you think in terms of
family, but you think in terms of the corporation as a social/societal,
economic resource for everyone who is involved, management, investors and
employees.  How you do that is where the teams come in.



*How does capitalism accept global wealth distribution?*



*Stéphane:*  I would love to keep talking about this, but I have another
question that I would like to ask.  How will the coming population
decimation affect global wealth distribution and, would decimation provide
fertile ground for more employee ownership?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Let us examine a worst case scenario:  A worst case scenario
involves any percentage of population that is decimated or lost over 30%.
If the population of the world was decimated by 30%, it would necessitate
cooperation among parties who had differences before, and that they have a
shared investment or interest in doing business together, not as separate
individuals but as combined mutual associations.  This is very much like a
mutual insurance company would operate, that those who were invested in the
process benefit from its good operations.  So too, if you were lacking
drivers to drive fuel from the fuel distribution point in a large city out
into the hinterlands and you were short of truck drivers, how would you
solicit and garner the needed number of drivers to assist your corporation
to stay in business as a distributor of gasoline, fuels and energy
products?  You would most likely entice them by having them become employee
investors, having them become part of the operation, part of the financial
equation of making a company work.  The old traditional “arch your back and
stay the course, double up on your efforts to do it yourself,” will surely
fail.  There is no room in the world for a global bankruptcy; there is no
room for failure when there are enough individuals on hand to do the work,
and a distribution system would need those individuals.



*The coming decimation of population*



When you see a decimation at anywhere from 30% to 60% and higher, then you
will have a world that will be much changed.  If you read the recent
reports from the International Health Organization, they have said that it
is not so much “if” there will be a global pandemic, but “when” there will
be a global pandemic.  They are now advising nations to develop their own
national plans in the event of an outbreak of a global pandemic.  You know
and we know, and we assure you, that there will be a very severe global
pandemic in the future.  This is very similar to your market advisors and
investors, who are all rather skittish right now.  It is because they see
the beginning of the long downward trend of decreasing national economies
and global economy.  As I mentioned earlier today, the inertia of your
global economy takes many years for it to decrease, and it takes twice or
three times as long as that to get back to where it was before.  The advent
of a global recession is very disheartening to many people, and the way
through that is through the options I have just discussed a few moments
ago.  Does this answer your question, or would you like further explanation?



*Stéphane:*  No, I think that answers my question.  I’ll offer the floor to
the rest of the team as I seem to be hogging the time.  Thank you very much.



*New trends in employment*



*Roxie:*  I do have a follow-up question on Stéphane’s first question.  My
husband and I both worked for a large corporation where it was common for
employees to stay a very long time based on good wages, retirement plans,
stock options and gifts of stock, and so on.  Now it seems from watching my
children and grandchildren that they do not stay at any one job very long,
sometimes less than a year.  Some jobs actually encourage people to leave
after 3 years because they want to hire in somebody with fresh ideas at
lower pay.  It sounds like from your comments that perhaps we need to go
back to the old ways of doing things like we did during the industrial
period where people stayed at their jobs throughout their lifetimes.  Is
that what you are saying?



*MACHIVENTA:*  No, definitely not.  This is not a return to the traditional
ways of doing business or the traditional values.  The only way out of this
is forward.  What you are finding, what you are seeing or not seeing in the
evidence that is before you, is that individuals are seeking purpose and
meaning in their work.  Individuals—let us say a young individual may jump
from job to job, but in his/her time away from their mundane job they are a
painter doing watercolors and portraits for example to find purpose and
meaning in their life, which they can do for the rest of their lives.  What
has happened in your cultures is that the young children are no longer
leaving school in the third grade; they are no longer leaving school in the
eighth grade; they are no longer leaving school after graduation from high
school, but they go onto college and they are seeking meaningful ways to
fill their time and their activities of their hands and their minds and
their social lives as well in meaningful and purposeful ways.



No, the way forward is through the integration of work as a meaningful,
purposeful means to support the living that they want on an equal basis as
purpose and meaning of those who are wealthy and invested in the companies
that they work for.  Your world, your societies, and since your children
are of the United States, we will use that as an example, are in a
transition era of your cultures.  This era spans easily 50-75 years; it
began in the early 1960’s and was a culture change that began and has now
affected the rest of the world.  You have seen the changes through the
psychedelic drugs, through drug use and through mind expanding experiences;
you have seen this culture change through birth control and the freedoms
this allows individuals to leave family relationships and to not enter into
marriage relationships for economic security.  Your world has changed
immensely.







*Your world is coming apart*



What you are seeing, as we see, is your world coming apart.  For some of
you this is violent, for some of you it is disheartening, it is
disorienting and it is confusing to many of you.  Nonetheless, it is
proceeding ahead and through the designs of Christ Michael and the
Melchizedeks, we are in the process of designing a sustainable future for
your societies.  In the meantime, there are the cataclysms as you continue
to experience in North America and elsewhere around the world concerning
the weather.  This will have an immense effect upon your world.  Your
scientists have only begun to have the inkling of what will happen when
Greenland has melted and what the Antarctic has done to the global level of
the ocean.  It will have an immense effect.  These changes will cause the
changes in occupations and in lifestyles and so on.



You can anticipate through all these changes there will also occur the
pandemic that is predicted and that Monjoronson spoke to you about over a
decade ago, that these will come about and have a powerful impact upon your
world.  We are striving to give you the tools to reconstruct your world
afterwards and rebuild it on a more peaceful basis, one that is equitable
for all concerned and particularly for future generations, and that it will
be sustainable and not outgrow your global limits of expansion.



*Roxie:*  Thank you!



*Library of Wisdom*



*Craig:*  I understood back in the 1970‘s that in Japan companies had
models whereby employees would share in prosperous times and take reduced
pay in hard times and that helps with stability of their corporations.  Are
there models or lessons in that that we can look to for examples or for
inspiration?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Most certainly, and this is in keeping with the Library of
Wisdom that we hope someday will become a reality, that the wisdom that was
shown and demonstrated in those corporate policies begins to be shared with
others worldwide.  (This is Machiventa but This One is chuckling.)  If you
were to ask Alexa or Siri, “What are the courses of action on a decreasing
economy for a corporation?” and then Alexa or Siri would access the Library
of all Human Wisdom and give you the answer in short order, either in
printed form or verbally.  This is what is needed in your world as you know
that the wisdom does exist, just as there are the best practices of family
existence, of parenting and child-rearing, so too there are best practices
for the existence of stability and sustainability of societies and
economies and political organizations.  This wisdom must be garnered, it
must be gathered and sifted, sorted, collated, organized and shared with as
many people as possible, and that would truly be a universal base of
wisdom.  You are on the right course of thinking, young man, and we wish
you to continue to think this way in the future.



*Craig:*  I heard yesterday that there is a cold going around in Victoria
and that everyone is getting it.  It seems inevitable that something with a
high mortality rate comes along and spreads the same way through cities.



*Pandemic*



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, exactly, it will be in cities, it will be through mass
transportation, International transportation, air travel and so on.
Airports are a common point of connection for International travelers and
for domestic travelers as well.  It is our—I cannot say “prediction”—but
what we foresee as a probability is that there will be a global pandemic
which will reach its maximum within at least 4 months, and decrease after
that.  Four months is not much time when you consider 7 billion people.  Of
course there will be enclaves of people who will never be touched by this
as they will have no contact with that community, except by drivers who
make deliveries and so on.



*The need to keep employees with the decrease in population*



*Stéphane:*  Machiventa with the reduction of 30-60% of the population and
with people wanting the same kind of services as they had before, there
will be a rationalization of labor, and also a higher need for mega
corporations will have a greater need to keep their people and offer more
incentives.  So do you see the reduction of population as a means by which
employee ownership will be required to keep employees that will be in a
much higher demand at that time?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Exactly!  You have seen through it all; you have seen it
very clearly.  This is exactly what will happen.  There will not be so much
of regret for having to give up some dividends to other people, but in to
having to entice people to stay there so you do have dividends.  You have
struck the point exactly.



I wish to continue on that statement, in that what you are doing now is you
are doing the forward-thinking; you are doing the “what if” scenario of
planning that at this level, what do we do?  At this increased level, what
do we do?  At this other increased level, what do we do?  You will need to
see the different levels of necessity to have already made some plans for,
which is simply just wise thinking.  Where do you curtail your operations
and where do you maintain them?  How do you maintain the flow of
distribution through minimal operation?  You want to continue to have sales
to the population that remains and to insure that the population that
remains has the means to buy your products.  This is called economic
survival in the new era.



*Climate change and the ability to grow food*



*Jeff:*  If my memory serves, in 1795-1796, there was a great change in the
weather in the Northern Hemispheres and England found itself in the
position of not being able to grow crops, and there were food riots.  They
were in some conflict with the French at the time, and as a result, people
fell quite ill through starvation, and many people fell sick during that
time and I am wondering if the changes that we are seeing in the weather,
both hot and cold in the various hemispheres is going to deliver similar
circumstances where there will be an immense shortage of fruits and
vegetables and animal protein for people and that will make a fertile
ground for a pandemic?  Is that something that is in your radar of
possibilities?



*MACHIVENTA:*  It is exactly at the center of our radar.  What you are
missing is that these cataclysms do not occur in sequence, they are now
developing together and there will be a nexus point at which they will
begin to cascade together with all eventually occurring at their maximum.
The conditions of decreased health and increased travel increase the
possibility of a pandemic.  Then couple the pandemic with the decreased
economic activity, lack of healthcare services, or vice versa, and you will
end up with scenarios where you have a tremendous loss of population
through natural causes.  We have been striving to assist you to see this as
a cascade, rather than a domino effect, it will rather be as a multiple
effects occurring, not in sequence, but developing growing together where
at one time there will be an event where they are all occurring
simultaneously.  This is when you will have the wonderment about whether
you really want to be here or not.



*What is next on the curriculum for this group?*



*Stéphane:*  This is off topic, but what is next on the curriculum for this
group, from your perspective?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you.  This is personal to us, as it is personal to
you, and personal to not only the NOCO group, but also to all people who
receive this communication, these transcripts.  There is a program by which
we have been working on for well over 4 decades that will come into
existence before too long.  We can only allude to this because of the
misinterpretations of what we would say, and the personal egoistic ways in
which you would want to apply this.  We are cautious about this because it
will be personal to you; it will be something that you will want to engage
in; it will be something that you can—as you have said before—something you
can sink your teeth into and to find purpose and meaning in something that
could become an avocation, or even something that you would want to pursue
with your life.  You, all of you who are reading these transcripts, and who
have been following them for some time, are most well prepared to become
not only the advocates, but the teachers and the counselors and mentors and
coaches to help people understand what is going on and why these things are
occurring.



The “why” does not include spirit’s involvement in the decimation or any of
the cataclysms, that these are developments of natural events and that
because of knowing that ahead of time, the celestial realm has begun to
prepare humanity to survive them and to sustain their existence into the
future.  In other words, you will be the voice, the teachers, the advanced
guard who will go out and assist us to prepare people on how to recover
from the disasters and the cataclysms that are occurring.  We said this
will be personal, and yes it will be personally presented to you as a means
for you to apply your life if you so choose.  That is the extent of what I
can reveal to you at this time; I know that it is very nebulous, it is less
than concrete and far less than transparent to you, or even partially
transparent because of what you might suppose of what we have said.  Now,
are you totally confused?



*Stéphane:*  Will this initiative be revealed through this group or through
other groups, or through non-Teaching Mission means?



*MACHIVENTA:*  In keeping with what we have revealed already through this
group, you can be assured that it will continue through this group and
spread rapidly through other groups as well.



*A blend of democracy and socialism?*



*Roxie:*  Machiventa, in your discussion about how to distribute resources,
goods, money equitably, I wonder if some parts of socialism isn’t a better
idea, where people pay more into the government through taxes, but then
receive healthcare and other services free, so that all people are covered
equally.  Is there a way to combine socialism into a democratic form of
government?



*MACHIVENTA:*  I do not wish to play cat and mouse with you, but would you
invest your own money now in your government to do that?



*Roxie:*  (Laughing.)  I already do in the amount of taxes I pay already.
I don’t object to some of the taxes I pay because they go for good things,
particularly locally like the fire department, police department, road
upkeep, etc., so I am not totally against paying taxes, but I would like to
see a way that people could be covered for healthcare universally, instead
of just a few lucky ones.



*Stéphane:*  Roxie, I would argue that some countries pay the same amount
of taxes as the United States and have universal coverage.  I think it’s
about the distribution of how the government decides to distribute the
taxes is more of the pertinent question here.



*Roxie:*  I know in the Scandinavian countries they pay a lot more in
taxes, but they have a lot of free services.



*Avoid the label of socialism*



*MACHIVENTA:*  One part of our discussions that we have striven to avoid is
labeling, as there is so much misconstrued information or awareness or
knowledge of what a label as socialism involves.  It is important not to
use those labels because of the multiple meanings it has for many people
applied in different ways through different cultures.  You will find that
in the suggestions for the recreation or the transformation of your
societies in this new era that you will create new solutions, rather than
looking to old solutions that you will create new solutions that are
workable for the times and for the generations to come.  When we hear a
person mention the word “socialism” or similar words as that in
conversation, it makes us begin to wonder what they have in their agenda in
the discussion and where they want to take that discussion.  Our purpose
here is to transform your world into a world of stability, peace and a high
quality of life for everyone, in that they have a meaningful life in
anticipation of the morontial realm that they will engage in when they make
their transition, or when they fuse while still on this planet.  It is
important that we have good usage of language and to avoid labels if
possible.



*Developing a “Beloved Community”*



*Roxie:*  I have a question from a reader that I would like to make sure we
get in today.  She says,



“Daniel Raphael came to my town in Statesboro, Georgia, USA, several years
ago and taught us about community building for social sustainability.  I am
now working with community builders here to assist to do the work for
building a ‘Beloved Community’ (after Dr. King’s model) in our community
where poverty, violence, and misunderstandings prevail.  We meet twice
monthly, have held some ‘Facilitated Listening’ events around various
topics—including gender identity, class and status, and police training.



I have been given the opportunity to share my vision for Beloved
Community.  I want to focus my definition on the capacity of a community to
achieve social sustainability.  Please help me answer the question from my
community:  What does “Beloved Community” as a socially sustainable
community look like to me?”



*MACHIVENTA:*  The beginning of developing those community models that you
seek is dependent upon two factors:  One is to recognize the commonalities
between and among all people that are in each individual and in your
families.  The other is to disable those differences of values and
distinctions and bigotries and prejudices and biases that cause the
separation between those commonalities that you all share.  This is the
process of creating a new culture.  What you are seeking is not so much to
make a reconciliation of the past, but to create a new culture that is
dependent upon commonalities and shared equalities and appreciation for
each individual.  That means that when you meet someone on the street, you
do no automatically say, “Oh my God, am I going to be attacked by this
white man?  Or, “Oh my God, am I going to be attacked by this black man?”
Or, “Am I going to be held up and robbed by these kids and killed?” But
rather you think through your mind that these are individuals who come
forward and you see them as they are.



We are not asking you to be a fool and go to the ghettos and to preach your
words of light on the street corner, for you surely would most likely be
attacked.  We are asking you to hold in mind and examine your own personal
limitations, and limitations are those thoughts, those biases, and those
opinions that cause separation.  What we seek for you to do is to find the
commonalities and begin to appreciate other people as you appreciate your
own commonalities, and that you see the potential in each individual that
comes into existence, and those people who are disappointed and angry are
those individuals who did not have the means to appreciate their potential
that they could manifest in their lives for themselves and for others.  The
work is very simple; it is the willingness to accept others as you accept
yourself.



*Developing a city with 7 core values*



*Jeff:*  I have been given an idea that I have been mulling in my mind for
some time now, and that is the concept of a 7 core values city and I’ve
even joined the National Civic League so that I could understand their
process of designation of an All American City.  Would it be appropriate
for me to request that those people who are reading these transcripts to
send their ideas about what a 7 core values city would mean to them, to
send that to the 7corevalues.org web site as an email so I can get an idea
of what they think that might be.  Is that a worthwhile endeavor?



*MACHIVENTA:*  We certainly would not stand in your way to do so.  That is
an idea that individuals who read these transcripts can access and to
recommend to others, including those organizations for their city and urban
upliftment.



*Jeff:*  Thank you.



*Daniel:*  It’s time to bring this to a close.  Let’s go back into our
repose.



*Presentation of an overview *



*MACHIVENTA:*  In closing we wish to remind you that what we have presented
to you is quite other worldly and that compared to the topics that your
neighbors think about, and the topics of discussion, and the parameters of
the problems that they think about and worry about, that we have given you
quite a view of your world.  We have taken you to the top of a mountain,
and from the top of the mountain you know that this climb has been
difficult, but from the top of this mountain you can see a long ways, and
you can see far into the distance of your life, of your world and your
societies.  We have given you perspectives that you have never possibly
dreamed about when you were younger, and even those perspectives that your
neighbors may have.  We have given you a way of thinking about your life
now on this world, and your life in the afterworld.  We have given you an
abundance of ideas to be of service, ideas that can take you out of your
small, short mean lives into a life of purpose that is joyful and brings
you joy and completeness and fulfillment in your life.



*Challenges of life*



Not all of you have a mean short life, as the poet has said, but you have a
life of challenge, even overcoming your illnesses is quite a challenge for
you.  You do not have a perfect body mechanism that runs perfectly all the
time.  It breaks down for you at occasions and causes you much pain and
misery, it is something to overcome.  Many of you come into prayer during
those times, and many of you have remained in prayer even through those
times.  We encourage you to know that you are loved, you are beloved of
Christ Michael, you are his children as are his other children, but you
have the added burden of knowing the work that is ahead.  We thank you for
your presence here and your patience to wait, knowing consciously that
there are better days ahead, but there are also difficulties ahead as well
and that you have chosen this life and we praise you, we bless you and will
come to your aid as you request when the time is needed.  Thank you and
good day.

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