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*2020-09-07, NET #99, Machiventa*

New Era Transition #99 – (Find this and previous NETs at: 
https://bigmacspeaks.life/_)_

To attend these sessions live contact *JT* at UpwardInward at gmail.com 
<mailto:UpwardInward at gmail.com>

Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager

Topics:

*Rancor in the U.S. election*

*Values based decision-making*

*Ageless values = ageless organizations*

*Humanity /is/ these values*

*Three segment-brained beings*

*An era of decision-making*

*Scope and limitations of current celestial activity*

*There are many celestials now available to you*

*The Seven Core Values*

*A lack of enthusiasm*

*The timing of providence*

*I have lived among you*

*Playing to the audience—a cheap trick*

*Urantia is a school for spiritual growth and development*

*Predictions by celestials and predestination*

*Predictions by celestials on decimal and isolated worlds*

*Asking questions through a T/R*

*We deal with individuals*

*Soul growth and God the Supreme*

*Getting the Word out through social media interactions*

*Curriculum for getting in touch with spirit*

*Celestial perspective on popular spirituality*

*Black swan events and providence*

*Understanding the superpersonal*

*Model societies*

*Evolution of this group and readership*

*Remain curious. Become leaders. Look into the heavens*

TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD

Participants from: Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Mexico, South 
Africa, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela. If I missed your 
country, please let me (*JT*) know at UpwardInward at gmail.com 
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Invocation:  Raymon

2020-09(Sep)-07

*Rancor in the U.S. election*

*Machiventa:*Good morning. For some of you, it’s good afternoon, or good 
evening. This is Machiventa Melchizedek and I greet you from our place 
and abode here on your planet. We are here at times, sometimes we are 
afar, but, nonetheless, our presence here pervades the space where /you/ 
are, and we thank you for sharing this time with us.

You have probably noticed the rancor that pervades the media from the 
political elements of your societies. This is most unfortunate because 
it is evidence of the barbarism of those in power and those who want to 
/have/ power. A much more delightful scenario is available for those who 
engage the next stage of democracy. It will have many advantages 
compared to the traditional democracy that you have here in the United 
States, the United Kingdom, France, and other democratic nations. All 
nations now are in the stage 2 of democracy and must evolve soon to 
stage 3 in order to satisfy the yearning for righteousness—meaning right 
action—in domestic affairs in every democratic nation. This is possible. 
It is not /impossible/. It is very possible that this can be done. There 
must be a means and a motivation to accept or even /consider/ that the 
possibility exists for an improved and evolved democratic process.

I emphasize this today because of the rancor that we see and feel in 
your hearts and the angst in your minds concerning the current election 
process in the United States. This is something that is disquieting to 
us, and it is disquieting to yourselves. Many of you see the possibility 
of a despot coming into power who wants to maintain an iron grip over 
everything including the minds of those who are around that person. We 
do not take political sides concerning either party, every party, or 
/any/ party. Our concern is for the welfare of your world. We are trying 
to teach you to be planetary managers, and this must be based on the 
decisions you make and everyone else makes using the values that are 
common to everyone. The difficulties that arise in policy development in 
government and corporations comes from using a different set of values 
or values that have not been explained, values that have not been 
clearly identified and defined. By using the seven values and the ethics 
and morality that are subsequent to those values, you will then have a 
clearly defined, identifiable set of values that will become useful to 
you in every decision-making and option development possibility.

*Values based decision-making*

Values are always involved in decision-making. You know that and we know 
that, but few people consider that values are present, very much so 
present, concerning option development. There is option development, and 
then, out of choice making of those options, those same values are in 
play. And then when someone makes a decision, those values underlie that 
decision as well. And further, those same values underlie the action and 
implementation of the decision so that at four levels you are engaged 
with values. If the values change by the executive who is in charge of a 
corporation, committee, council, or government then the choices, 
decisions, and action implementation will change. It is important that 
this come to the forefront of humanity at this time simply because it is 
uniform, it is regular, it is universal, it is timeless, and it is 
self-evident. Further, when you consider these values, they are 
irreducible—there are no further values that are more basic than these 
seven. These are the ultimate basic values of humanity and they are 
clearly definable and have been through the documents that we have 
produced with and through This One. You may want to consider these 
values as you enter into your own personal future in your employment, in 
your own entrepreneurial endeavors, and in your family.

*Ageless values = ageless organizations*

The next phase of this development to develop your organizational 
structures into those that are compatible with each other—those that 
complement the sustainability of your societies—is to have those values 
embedded into the value-based decision-making processes of whatever 
organization you are a part of. It then becomes a part of your own 
decision-making process to consider these values. Further, there is then 
value-based organizational development. When organizations are developed 
on a stable platform of values, then that corporation, organization, or 
government body will have the opportunity to last a long time. When 
those values are identified as identical to the seven values that are 
innate in humans, then those organizations have every possibility of 
becoming ageless as well. Making decisions then become much more refined 
rather than a shoot-from-the-hip type of action that many executives 
demonstrate.

*Humanity /is/ these values*

It is particularly important that you begin to teach your children these 
values and how they are fundamental to human existence. It is something 
most people haven’t considered: that these values are not taught to 
anyone—they are innate. No one has been taught to have these values—to 
learn how to survive, to learn how to thrive. Each individual simply 
relies upon their value reaction to situations and how to proceed in 
their life. If their life is threatened, then they will protect 
themselves and they will survive. If they want to improve themselves and 
grow into their potential, then they will thrive using those values. 
These are as natural as being right-handed, left-handed, or 
ambidextrous. You do not consider having had to be taught how to be 
right-handed or left-handed. You simply take that on. When you are free 
to choose as a child, then you will become predominately right-handed or 
left-handed or capably ambidextrous. You see these values are 
/humanity/. Humanity /is/ these values. It is now time to express these 
values (particularly the three secondary values) in your humanity in 
consideration of others as being equal to you and having as much value 
as you and worthy and deserving of your respect, admiration, and 
encouragement.

*Three-segment brained beings*

This is how we feel about you. This is how we are using these values 
that are innate to you and so many other sentient beings of other 
planets. You see, these values—these seven values—are not unique to Homo 
sapiens but are the basic ingredients of advanced civilizations and 
advanced beings. They are also highly useful for the three-segmented 
brained species on other planets. With three segments rather than simply 
two hemispheres, there is much judgment going on, much evaluation and 
discernment going on in the mind of the individual. Having a reliable 
series of values that are intrinsically, innately, inherently connected, 
and integral to each other, you will find that thinking by these 
individuals far surpasses those of your species in their brilliance, 
ingenuity, and inventiveness. Their discussions of philosophy are so 
well rounded you would be amazed to listen in on what they are saying 
and how they discuss topics. Right now, you and we have enough 
difficulties with the species that occupy /this/ planet. My presentation 
of a three-partitioned brain of other species on other planets is simply 
to let you understand that you are not alone and that you are not really 
as brilliant as you think you are until you become peaceful as a race 
across the whole planet.

This is not meant as a derogatory statement to you, but there is a great 
lack of realistic self-appraisal by many individuals whether they are 
elected, appointed, or simply their own boss in their own living 
situation. We are here to help you. We have been giving you great 
assistance and many lessons to make your life easier if you would 
succumb to the embrace of Christ Michael’s enduring love and the 
insightful thoughts that come to you from Nebadonia and her magnificent 
crew of angels.

*An era of decision-making*

This era, my friends, is one of decision-making. You have already made 
many of your choices through your options and your choice selections and 
your decisions concerning those. How will you enact those decisions? 
Will they be for the good of all or selfishly for only those who wear 
the color of your political party whether that is yellow, black, red, 
green, white, or blue?

Finally, in this opening statement, who is the leader you would follow? 
You must think about that, need to think about that, and make a choice. 
For us it is always Christ Michael. Thank you.

**

*Scope and limitations of current celestial activity*

**

*Walt: *Thank you so much Machiventa, especially for the insight of what 
happens in more advanced societies. My first question is related to NET 
#98 where you informed us that the world is not yet at the breaking 
point that would precipitate them being overjoyed, enthusiastic, or 
jubilant about the possibility of having your team’s assistance. I agree 
with you. However, in addition, though I am asserting that the world has 
little to no idea of what great help /is/ available to the individual 
and the collective, and this world has even less [of an] idea how to 
petition or invite it. Being enthusiastic and jubilant to receive help 
requires awareness of what is available. My question to you in that vein 
is: what are your team’s limitations or restrictions in bringing about 
this collective awareness?

*MM:*Figuratively I’ve been handed a long list that is easily 10 feet 
long that contains all the efforts that we have made to inform people of 
Urantia of our presence and of the benefits of following the words of 
advice of Christ Michael and God-loving avatars who have been on your 
planet for many thousands of years. Our current efforts are, first of 
all, numerous. You can include those if you go back to the first of the 
1800s [with] the development of much more spiritually-based metaphysical 
thought and beliefs. There were numerous of those spiritual/metaphysical 
leaders in the late 1800s and early 1900s. You have the entry of /The 
Urantia Book/ and its thoughts and the process that brought its 
publication into existence. There were many aspects of that procedure 
which were not allowed to be published as it would be premature at that 
time. However, those processes within the Forum and by individuals who 
participated closely and at a distance were such that their belief 
systems would be helpful to individuals today to understand what was 
going through the minds of the people who made the choices and how they 
interacted with their unseen helpers, the midwayers, to produce the 196 
papers of /The/ /Urantia Book/. This has been a joyous process for us, 
but we have been disappointed at the lack of openness for sharing that 
document with the world. Yes, it has been translated into many languages 
and published through many printings around the world. We are now very 
thrilled with the Internet and what is available on the Internet to 
access all religious documents and the spiritual entity called /The/ 
/Urantia Book/.

*There are many celestials now available to you*

The access by populations through the Internet from all over the world 
into the website that has been named BigMacSpeaks.life is an important 
step to bring the spiritual metaphysics into the realm of tactile 
appreciation—that you can touch it, you can see it, you can discuss 
these topics with spiritual beings including your guardian angel, the 
God presence within you, and also [with] those individuals who are 
governing bodies on this planet and on the capital of Edentia. There are 
many people now who are available to you (spiritual entity people) to 
consult with, and to validate what you have been taught in years past by 
many religions.

*The Seven Core Values*

There is a means by which you can now test your own beliefs against 
these seven values and test your own humanity against the three 
secondary values. Empathy, compassion, and a generalized love for 
humanity are important qualifiers for your humanity. Through that, then, 
you can live out the four primary values of respecting the life of each 
person as having equal value to yourself, and worthy of having their 
innate potential developed, as you want to develop your own, to improve 
your and their quality of life. These are all integrated. When you 
consider the spread of contacts and the resources we have provided with 
you, it’s simply a matter of finding people who want to find us. And 
that is our work now.

*A lack of enthusiasm*

*Walt:*Well, thank you so much Machiventa for that, and I do accept and 
agree that a tremendous amount has been done to make or [is] being made 
available to humanity. It seems that it is your position that there has 
been sufficient given so that there is adequate awareness. It’s just 
that the amount of awareness is not equal to the amount of enthusiasm. 
Is that your perception?

*MM:*Enthusiasm by whom, sir?

*Walt:*Humans. That your team has given enough awareness to the planet 
of the help that’s available so that the planet (although it has this 
awareness) does not have a matching level of enthusiasm to embrace the 
help available.

*The timing of providence*

**

*MM:*You are quite correct. That is why we speak of the breaking point 
not having been reached yet by humanity. Humanity has been exposed to 
religious thoughts of the afterlife and of a Creator for many centuries 
and millennia. Most people around the world know about God and know that 
there is a God, /may/ be a God, or the possibility of a God, that 
brought the creation of the universe and this planet into existence 
including their own species. There usually is not much enthusiasm for 
reaching out in faith to believe that there are spiritual provisions 
made for this planet during times of need. It is what people call 
Providence in times past where there seems to have come into existence 
some black swan event—some unusual presence that brings the coincidence 
of beneficial events together so that there is a positive outcome to the 
mess that humans have made of a situation. The world wars that this 
planet has suffered in the last 150 years are examples of that mess. 
Nonetheless, we have picked up the pieces and have helped you proceed. 
Now you have a global governing body, of some unmeasured qualifications, 
to help make amends between parties. You now have a World Court that is 
able to adjudicate crimes against humanity and so on. This is slow 
progress, and now you come to this time of this interim period, this 
space between contacts, this waiting for energizing of good ideas, the 
waiting for the black swan event to occur where there might be some 
unknown event come into existence that will change the course of your 
world and change the frequency of operation of democracies and you 
social institutions.

*I have lived among you*

This is not impossible. In fact, it is highly possible. In fact, this 
time now between the old normal and the new normal offers a gap of all 
possibilities in which we have great latitude to develop. The need as 
you say exactly, is a lack of enthusiasm in the minds of mortals. This 
too will change as the crushing burden of poverty and famine come across 
the world and where there are not enough resources even to address 
medical needs for those who are ill and who have contracted a lethal 
disease. It is difficult for me personally to present these facts of the 
future to you now. I have lived among you as the Sage of Salem and so 
you have awareness that I can appreciate the devastation that will occur 
in the future for you personally and for your world. Even individuals of 
great faith will also succumb to these difficulties. I thank you for 
your question and your awareness of this lack of enthusiasm which, 
unfortunately, is much like confidence as one of your sage sportscasters 
once said. He said: “Confidence is contagious. It can help you when you 
have confidence, and it is contagious when there is no confidence.”

*Playing to the audience—a cheap trick*

*Walt:*Thank you so much for that really insightful response. Please be 
lenient with me. I do have a difficulty, and that is: I would propose 
that your team could get the attention that the lack of enthusiasm is 
partially or largely because the difficulty there has been in getting 
the world’s attention, and that it is possible, and you can tell me why 
it’s not, that your team could get the world’s attention in the 
concrete, tangible way so that, in having the attention, that would 
create the enthusiasm of a real, concrete possibility of help. And when 
I say in a concrete or tangible way, I’m referring to, for example, like 
how there is a possibility that you might interface in a way that would 
broadcast messages. Perhaps something that can help the immediate need, 
the pressing global need or deal with a current, urgent mystery. And if 
the answer was discovered from your team as the source, it would get the 
attention of the world like never before.

*MM:*We have a rule of thumb here. We do not play to the audience.

*Walt:*I see. I understand.

*Urantia is a school for spiritual growth and development*

*MM:*Now, for the balance of your question. Why do we not play to the 
audience? To put it in very blunt terms: it’s a cheap trick. Secondly, 
that, if we’re not going to go for a cheap trick to get people’s 
attention and their temporary enthusiasm, why do we pursue such a 
difficult route? And the reason is that this is a school. Planet earth 
is a school for spiritual growth and development beginning with hope, 
faith, belief, trust, and then knowing—knowing that you’re cared for. 
The attention span of mortals is miniscule, so brief that the cheap 
tricks to gain people’s attention would be soon erased and like the 
Roman crowds who wanted more death and gore in the arenas, they would 
want more, and more, and more. So, it is a cheap trick because the real 
rewards of our presence here and the presence of Christ Michael and of 
being spirit-led in leading lives to help teach people how to lead 
spirit-led lives is not easy, and it is almost always learned from 
childhood which is reinforced through personal unfoldment in their lives 
as they follow the breadcrumbs, so to speak, out of the caves of 
ignorance and darkness into the light, knowing that their partner in 
life is Christ Michael and their God presence within them—their Thought 
Adjuster. Those who do not learn in childhood and follow that 
developmental phase must learn through their lives in a difficult way. 
Of course, many in contemporary times do not learn at all, but simply 
will succumb without ever having trusted and knowing the God presence 
within them. For us that is an immense tragedy. Thirdly, this is a 
co-creative effort. You might think that, as your suggestions offer, it 
is a co-creative way of getting people’s attention. Yes, it is the human 
sort of way of doing that, and we too must lead you, Walt, into /your/ 
greatness. Thank you.

*Walt:*Wow, Machiventa. I feel in that a full sense of clarity. And I 
thank you so much for forbearing with me and taking the time to provide 
this clarity. I’m grateful.

*MM:*It’s all part of our instructions. Thank you.

*Predictions by celestials and predestination*

*Rick:*Good morning. When talking to Abraham, you, Machiventa 
Melchizedek, predicted a future when you said the Hebrews would be 
enslaved by Egypt. After their enslavement, Abraham’s offspring would 
then occupy Canaan and be as numerous as the stars in the sky. My 
question is: is this ability to predict the distant future proof of 1.) 
predestination or perhaps 2.) are the highest orders of celestials, such 
as Melchizedeks, able to ascertain distant future probabilities to 
within a fraction of a percent?

**

*MM: *And your first question again? And then I’ll ask you for your 
second question.

*Rick:*Is this ability to predict the distant future proof of 
predestination?

*MM:*Thank you. Briefly, yes. It is evidence of predestination, however 
as you have been taught before by myself and others, this does not 
accrue to individuals or a nation of individuals being _foreordained_ to 
follow a path of _predestination_. There is always the option to follow 
our lead or not. Predestination is much like weather forecasting. We can 
predict what can occur in the future on a great scale simply by our own 
innate abilities as Melchizedeks and with the assistance with others. 
There are others, who you would call actuarial individuals, who can 
quite accurately predict the future within a very few percentiles 
(percentages) very accurately. On regular (non-decimal) planets this 
accuracy is almost 100 percent, and fallacy, or error, is almost zero. 
On a decimal planet as Urantia, error-possibility increases to about a 
10 percent probability by these celestial actuaries. And on a planet, 
such as earth, Urantia, that has been in great turmoil—rebellion—and 
with the indoctrination genetically of your species with such 
hyper-individuation, there is even less accuracy and predictability. 
Also, you must consider the longitude of prediction; whether it is a 
week, a year, a decade, a century, five centuries, or a thousand years. 
Even myself and other Melchizedeks can predict grand changes in the 
structure and processes and development of planets when we take into 
consideration what will occur in a thousand years. And those were the 
predictions that were made about the Hebrew people. Now your next 
question please.

*Predictions by celestials on decimal and isolated worlds*

*Rick:*OK. With this in mind that, at the time that you shared your 
future predictions with Abraham, I believe these three predictions were 
to happen five hundred years in the future. With that in mind, are the 
highest orders of celestials, such as Melchizedeks, able to ascertain 
distant future probabilities to within a fraction of a percent?

*MM:*As I have discussed, yes, we can on normal planets—ninety per cent 
of planets. However, on an extreme decimal planet as Urantia, no. The 
capability of predicting within a couple of percentiles is very 
difficult particularly in the realm of 500-1000 or 2000 years. However, 
we have much greater capability of predicting what will occur in this 
coming election for instance. And what will happen in your nation 
/after/ that election, but we will not discuss that now.

*Rick:*So, just to finish off this series of questions, would you say on 
a planet like Urantia that your ability to ascertain future 
probabilities is within 90 percent correct?

*MM:*Dear friend, let’s not beat this horse to death, OK? You have taken 
this far enough and to question our abilities in human terms is unfair 
for you and it’s unfair for us. It does not project the capability of 
how much we love you, but you are more interested in the accuracy of our 
predictions. Thank you.

*Rick:*Thank you.

*Asking questions through a T/R*

*John:*Hi Machiventa, this is John from northern California. I’m honored 
to be in your presence and to be able to ask you questions that I wonder 
about sometimes. In listening to this discussion this morning, I go 
back, and I think about our text, and it talks about racial development 
on the planet and concern at the time that /The/ /Urantia Book/ was 
being written about the degeneracy of human beings and the lack of 
spiritual interest on their part. And I wonder, in seeing the lack of 
enthusiasm for people of this Urantia revelation and the subsequent 
Teaching Mission and Correcting Time program, from a planetary 
management point of view, how do you view degeneracy in human beings in 
general and on this planet as something of an obstacle to work with in 
trying to interest people in their own relationship with their Thought 
Adjusters and in a more spiritual orientation to their lives. And how 
big of a problem [is it], if you see it as a problem, and how do we work 
with that and overcome that to interest people in this process? Thank you.

*MM:*John, and to others who ask questions, please have your questions 
in mind so that you can ask them one after the other rather than 
together in one global statement. It is difficult for the feeble mind of 
This One to encompass those in a means which I can access easily. The 
confusion in the mind of This One between elements in your questions 
causes a disruption to the open flow of myself to the database in his 
mind. It is much like stirring…. Let me give you a humble metaphor. Some 
people like to eat their food on a plate one food at a time and always 
keeping their vegetables separate from the meat and from the salad and 
so on. Whereas other people like to mix them together and enjoy the 
ambiance of those flavors mixed together. So, when you ask numerous 
questions in one open statement such as you have done, it is difficult 
for me to sort the peas from the carrots in the mind of This One. That 
may seem oversimplified to you, and yes it is, but nonetheless, if you 
examine the database in the mind of a person, I have the capability, 
capacity, and ability when the individual—the T/R person—is settled and 
at peace to grasp and retrieve those bits and pieces that I can use to 
answer those questions. It is when there is a series of questions, then 
there seems to me to be a maelstrom of activity in the brain and mind 
activity of the T/R whether it is This One or others. It is best to ask 
your questions in a deliberate, developmental process which aids 
listeners as well to understand what is going on. This is not meant as a 
chastisement to you John, certainly not for we know that you are 
wholeheartedly dedicated, it is simply that it is part of being 
uneducated in the procedures of effective T/Ring, listening by the T/R 
and by the celestial being. Now sir, your first question. Please ask again.

*We deal with individuals*

*John: *Does the lack of enthusiasm on this planet represent a lack of 
capability in the humans living here to even make an enthusiastic 
response to these revelations?

*MM:*No, it does not. We deal with individuals. We deal as do angels. 
When you can appreciate the collective spiritual work of the entities 
around an individual, you realize that there are numerous beings 
involved in bringing clarity to the individual. It is from the 
individual that you are making speculative thoughts about the larger 
group of people. When people have come to similar thoughts, then you say 
this is a trend. And you would be right of course. But it is the 
individual who makes the difference in all our dealings with your 
planet. If we cannot lead one person forward into hope, belief, and 
trust, then we are unable to do so with the whole. We recognize that 
many people are totally put off by religion, put off by spirituality, 
put off by the thought that there are non-empirical beings around them. 
So, we leave them alone out of respect, though the Thought Adjuster is 
always there encouraging the individual to believe. Now, your next 
question please.

*Soul growth and God the Supreme*

*John:*  The next question I had has to do with the development of my 
own soul and how experience here seems to be the way that soul grows and 
develops. I was thinking about God the Supreme and wondering if the 
experience of the evolution of Supremacy is akin to a soul for God.

*MM:*We would refer you back to /The/ /Urantia Book/ which explains 
these concepts very clearly. If you are part of a reading group, then I 
would suggest that you use this question as a lesson for inquiry and 
enlightenment when you return to your group.

*John:*Thank you very much Machiventa. I appreciate your time and your 
attention. Thank you.

*MM:*You are most welcome.

**

*Getting the Word out through social media interactions*

**

*Craig: *I have been sort of engaging people in comments after watching 
YouTube videos on topics such as the seven values and the need to extend 
our democracy. Does engaging people in comments under YouTube videos, is 
that a good forum for trying to introduce concepts like the seven values 
and the need to improve democracy?

*MM:*Yes, most certainly. It is a wonderful venue because you never know 
who will be watching or listening to the responses—either now, 
immediately, or ten years from now. And yes, you are the angels’ 
advocate so to speak where you are raising questions and topics 
concerning something that you have heard or engaged yourself with other 
people, and the curious mind then becomes a more open mind. An open mind 
is approachable. Those who have made up their opinions and their biases 
and judgments already are closed. So, this is a means by which your work 
can be augmented by the celestial teachers, angels, and Thought Adjuster[s].

*Craig:*OK. Thank you. I also occasionally mention /The/ /Urantia Book/ 
saying: Well, this is what the video says, and here’s another aspect 
that /The/ /Urantia Book/ indicates such and such. Is that a good help 
for getting the /Urantia Book/ known?

*MM:*Yes. My answer is hesitant because it’s qualified. It is important 
that the person you are addressing, or [the] many people, are asked for 
the latitude of their openness to an esoteric document. Some people have 
no appreciation for documents other than the Bible, the Koran, or the 
Course in Miracles for example. You may couch your recommendation or 
your revelation in terms which lead to openness on the part of the 
individual.

*Craig:*OK. Thank you. I do try to do that. Thanks.

*Curriculum for getting in touch with spirit*

*Walt:*The first question: In NET #97 Machiventa, you informed us that 
the intention for all God-centered religions must be to teach followers 
to become in touch and in tune with the God presence within them—how to 
have that relationship. My question is: What would you promote as topics 
and practices to learn /and/ teach—like a curriculum—to best support 
this intention. Perhaps we can begin to learn and practice in advance of 
such an official religion forming.

*MM:*This too is old material and has already been invented and written. 
You may ask the individuals at the Urantia Foundation, the Fellowship, 
and others where these materials can be found and how to present them. 
This is a question that has been asked and answered numerous times, but 
we thank you for your sincerity.

*Celestial perspective on popular spirituality*

*Walt:*Thank you. And the next question is: Given that, at this point in 
time on our planet, you have a real resurgence of spiritual interests in 
the large followings of the likes of people such as Eckhart Tolle, Gina 
Lake, The Collective, entity Abraham, Esther Hicks, and Jaggi Vasudev 
(known as Sadhguru) who have even been given international platforms and 
speaking opportunities in *major* /Fortune 500/ companies and Ivy League 
institutions, I would say that there is certainly a large and growing 
interest into metaphysical and spiritual matters. And I’m wondering what 
is your perspective on this development? Is your perspective that it is 
something that is still vastly inadequate? Is it something that you see 
as having made progress, [or has] a lot of potential? What is you take 
on this development at this point?

*MM: *This development is progressing apace to the initiation of these 
concepts to individuals who are open to them and who have expanded those 
concepts into written materials and into organizations and into the 
people who are followers of those thoughts, philosophies, and concepts. 
This is part of the program in answer to an earlier question about 
making the presence known. And this is going as well as can be expected 
or anticipated on Urantia as it exists at this time. We are fortunate 
for those individuals who have taken up the torch to lead others forward 
and to follow the light. These will be the reserves, these will be the 
audience to the new concepts of a transformed society, whether that 
society is with or without a God centeredness. It is important that 
advanced thinking be done for societies, so they become peaceful and 
receptive /to/ new ideas. There has been the blockage of new ideas by 
traditional thinkers—those who are traditionalist, those who are 
crystalized in their beliefs and want others to maintain those 
traditional beliefs as well. It is within the cadre of the leaders of 
these groups that the new world will be revealed with a new era. Those 
are now in the process of being unfolded. It is simply being open, as 
was said earlier, and receptive to new ideas. Even those who would like 
to see major changes in your politics, economies, and so on are, 
nonetheless, very negative. They said: How can this occur? How can this 
wonderful black swan event occur at a time like this? And even the 
mention of Providence—the word Providence itself—brings skepticism to 
people who would truly like to see a better world about them.

*Black swan events and providence*

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So you see, even the benevolence of circumstances of events that come 
into existence is absent from the thinking of even intelligent people 
who know history very well, and were they to really be even a /bit/ 
open-minded to Providence, they would see many, many incidents 
throughout history where providence was at work. These are the black 
swan events that are needed to correct the course of civilization in the 
right direction. Your world now is pregnant—literally pregnant—with 
billions of people who need and want a change of ideology, philosophy, 
and conceptualization of what can become. We Melchizedeks are in the 
forefront of striving to inform people about those. There is still yet, 
due to political insistence, a tremendous resistance to bring new ideas 
forward because humans are weak and have difficulty standing on their 
own preaching on the street corner, the truth that the king has no 
clothes as we discussed last time. It is obvious to many people that 
there is great good that is needed to come about, and that /we/ know 
that it is already here. It simply needs to be recognized, embraced, and 
supported. /Our /chore is to try to civilize your planet, let alone 
bring your world into spiritual awareness.

*Understanding the superpersonal*

*Walt:*Wow, the insights and perspectives on this are just music to my 
ears. Thank you so much. My other separate question: I’m hoping you can 
give me some help with understanding the superpersonal. I know at the 
time the /Urantia Book/ was published they said that humans could not 
altogether understand this, but I’m hoping that some modern advances in 
society would somehow give the opportunity for some faint grasp of what 
superpersonal is. Can you help with that please?

*MM:*I can entice you, so to speak. We are approaching several 
individuals in the psychiatric/psychosocial/therapeutic venues of 
thought to grasp the superpersonal. It is important that this concept be 
developed just as the superconscious mind be accepted. Many people are 
aware that there is a superconscious aspect to consciousness and to the 
consciousness of an individual but have not had the insight or those 
“ah-ha” moments to congeal those thoughts and ideas into something that 
is readable and understandable by others. These two concepts must be 
something that the highly intelligent people are able to grasp and to 
put into forms that can be understood by others. We, on the other hand, 
know that there are outliers among those groups of intelligent people 
who are /not/ professionals who /do/ grasp these concepts and who have 
the capability to write them into conceptual treatises so others can 
understand them. The evolution of thought, evolution of concepts and 
philosophy concerning the mental processes that border on the morontial 
are important for your world to come into awareness. It is best when 
these are seen and written about by those who have a generalized public 
audience.

*Model societies*

*Walt:*Thank you so much for that. My final question is: Are there any 
societies on Urantia, even if small, remote, or unknown, that are close, 
or if not close would you say is closest, to a society that should be 
modeled—especially when it comes to family values and public education. 
[Are there] any societies at all on Urantia that come close to something 
that we should pay attention to and try and model for our societies at 
large?

*MM:*Yes, there are, and I know your next question is going to be “well, 
what are they?” I have proactively anticipated your question. And the 
answer to your question is that those comparative studies have been done 
and they are in your libraries and can be found.

*Walt:*Thank you so much Machiventa. I am so grateful. Thank you.

*JT:*That’s all the questions we have for today. Do you have a closing?

*Evolution of this group and readership*

*MM:*This is Machiventa Melchizedek your planetary manager. I paused for 
a few moments to reflect upon this session and many sessions of the 
past. We are in deep appreciation for the evolution of the group 
processes, the group dynamics, and the development of social maturity 
among the people who are listening today [and] who read these papers. It 
may not be in your own personal awareness that your group has matured, 
but it has provided a mighty example of the evolution of a group into 
mature spiritual awareness and consciousness. The openness to consider 
that the Thought Adjuster may be guiding your questions as you develop 
them for answering in this venue. You have come along very far. We 
consider this group one of our most advanced on the planet. Yes, there 
are shortages of questions, sometimes the questions are very long, 
sometimes they are very brief but powerful.

*Remain curious.*

We have only one request: that you remain curious. And curiosity leads 
to listening, awareness, and observing those things around you and about 
you. We do look forward to those individuals who may appreciate the 
great arc of humanity’s evolution and development from barbarism and 
from tribalism into what you call civilization and the current time—that 
someone would appreciate this great arc and develop the insights that we 
have thrown in front of them to develop for others to read and to listen 
to.

*Become leaders.*

The best dynamic that can occur within groups such as these is that you 
become leaders, that you become effective and dynamic T/Rs, that you 
become true to the wisdom that you hear in your mind and that you let 
this flow through you without resistance or thought, and that it becomes 
part of the ethos and the consciousness of the group and the larger 
dimensions of the planet. You have much to contribute—each of you. Those 
of you who are listening in on this call today and those who are reading 
these sessions now and in years to come, will come into the awareness of 
all of this. And then you will have a much larger perspective of the arc 
of this small group over the last 19 years. We thank you for your 
presence here today.

*Look into the heavens*

I ask that you forgive my abruptness on occasion, my directness to you. 
It is not to you personally, but it is to broaden the thinking of the 
group to consider other possibilities. Yes, you have been taught to bear 
down on, to drill down on, as you say, on a subject into the great 
minutia below it. We ask you, however, to rise above that and to look 
into the heavens and consider the perspective of yourself as one among 
many who God loves individually, personally, and intimately. Good day.

*All:*Thank you Machiventa and thank you Daniel.

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