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*2020-09-21, NET #100, Machiventa*
New Era Transition #100 – (Find this and previous NETs at:
https://bigmacspeaks.life/_)_
To attend these sessions live contact *JT* at UpwardInward at gmail.com
<mailto:UpwardInward at gmail.com>
Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager
Topics:
*Implementation has begun—a long approach*
*Changing the culture of Western civilization (democratic nations)*
*New video series—the evolution of democracies*
*The United States is in an existential crisis*
*Only democracies can adapt to current uncertainties—incorporating the 7
values*
*You are on a crash course*
*Reforming the foundations of your civilization using all 7 core values*
*The heart of humanity must come forward*
*An appeal for Divine intervention*
*Free will is sovereign in all regards*
*Celestial team “moving ahead” or waiting for humanity*
*Necessity for major cataclysmic trauma?*
*God is the Center of all*
*Coming in a great clap of thunder—free will and co-creativity*
*Use your free will to become part of God’s grandeur*
*We do not offer hints, but you need to have forethought*
*The excellent and just balance*
*Ethics in artificial intelligence*
*Guidance on being a Transmitter/Receiver*
*A mass awakening today?*
*Support those who make sense*
*Pragmatic idealism*
*Evolution in the democratic process*
*Feedback in democratic systems*
*Rebuilding in alignment with the 7 values*
*Asking for help and growth—be open to it*
*Liz on a journey—personality gravity*
*Who has the power to change that?*
*Power is very fluid*
*Empower yourself, empower your society*
*You are not powerless. You have the power of the God presence within you.*
TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
Participants from: Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Mexico, South
Africa, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela. If I missed your
country, please let me (*JT*) know at UpwardInward at gmail.com
<mailto:UpwardInward at gmail.com>
Invocation: Sherille
2020-09(Sep)-21
*Daniel: *Before we begin, I would appreciate it if, when you ask a
question, you say “This is {State your name.} and my question is” or
something like that. It’s nice to know the names of the individual who
is speaking, unless you request to be anonymous. Thank you.
**
*Implementation has begun—a long approach*
**
*MM:*This is Machiventa Melchizedek. Thank you for your presence here
today. The time of implementation has begun. We have announced that
several times in the past, and we want to assure you that it is
definitely a part of the landscape for this planet now. It is part of
our long-term agenda for our work leading into the Correcting Time which
continues. We are leading you into the eventual Days of Light and Life.
It is important that you realize that this is a long approach. It is
much like walking across the plains in Tanzania as you approach
Kilimanjaro, and it takes a long time in the incline. It’s very gentle,
and then it becomes steeper and steeper. Such is the incline that we are
on for the implementation. You might say that you have landed on the
Atlantic side of Africa and are walking your way through the continent
to this time and this place.
*Changing the culture of Western civilization (democratic nations)*
We are now in the phase where we are working diligently to bring about
those changes that you so desire. We have said before, and we reiterate,
that when people become receptive for answers, they will be ready to
receive them and implement the suggestions that come along. A good idea
that benefits the breadth and depth of humanity will be seen by most
people as beneficial to them personally. The particular emphasis now is
upon approaching the transformation of your social institutions which
includes the democratic process. For most of you, you are unaware of
many of your social institutions. [They are] something that you accept
and something that you are used to, but the democratic process is one
that rubs you in the wrong way many times in many countries. It is one
in which you sense that there is a vast inequality of the expression of
political power and personal regard for you as an individual citizen
within your nation. We oftentimes have said, as we spoke about the
western civilization, [that] the western civilization includes and /is/
all democratic nations. Totalitarian nations, those that do not espouse
the equality of humanity and of individual citizens, are not part of
this culture. Our work now is to change the culture of western
civilization—of democratic nations—such that those nations will begin to
see the necessity of evolving into the next, higher stages of their
social institutions. As we have reviewed your social institutions, which
includes, of course, the family, education, healthcare, justice, the
democratic process, and many others, you and we know that all of these
institutions need to be transformed to become more effective—so that
they are much more attuned to the lives of individuals and families.
*New video series—the evolution of democracies*
To the reluctance and reticence of This One, we are, perhaps, premature
in announcing that we have begun a video series with him to indicate how
social institutions must transform in order to sustain the context and
content of your societies—your nations. This is a time now for thinking
in terms of transitions in the evolution of your social institutions. It
is important that you begin to accept the fact that your social
institutions—your nations—are in transition, and the transition that we
seek and we want to influence is the /evolution/ towards being more
effective, towards recognizing the needs of individuals and their
families to become the primary socializing and enculturating agencies of
your societies. You now realize, hopefully, that in many ways your
parliaments, your congresses, your executive branches are very, very
similar—far more similar—than to the monarchies they left behind. That
historic movement was evidence of the democratic process, and we see
that will continue in the future for you. You will have this pointed out
to you in these videos. What we are doing in these videos is
educational. It is to teach you as individuals and your political and
social groups how to help your societies evolve to become socially
sustainable, politically sustainable, and economically sustainable. As
you can see from the tragedies around you—socially, politically, and
economically—your nations are not sustainable. The trajectory of your
nations is on the same path as those that have failed during the last
30,000 years. This will be the first time that anyone has attempted to
build a sustainable civilization from the ground up. You may be shocked
by that, but if you look at the history of your civilization and your
democratic nations, none are founded on a logic that encompasses a
system that appreciates individuals and social institutions as a part
and parcel of the holism of a functional, democratic nation.
*The United States is in an existential crisis*
As you may see in your own nations now, you are marginally functional,
and the process of becoming less and less functional is approaching you
with every passing month and year. This nation, the United States, is in
an existential crisis right now. You may be seeing the possibility of
martial law in your nation after this election should the present
executive officer become re-elected. On the other hand, it will require
the diligent service of those lovers of freedom and democracy to come
forward to prevent such occurring. What you are seeing in many ways is
reminiscent of the rise of fascism that you historically saw in Germany
and in Italy. This is most unfortunate. We are mentioning this simply
because you may be asleep at the wheel so to speak, and that your
democracies run off the road and crash creating a reversal of the
progress you have made as a civilization of democracies. We are not
causing you alarm. We want to cause your awareness, consciousness, a
presence of the moment, to be in touch with the times and the tune.
There are many in your nation who would like to see a dictatorship take
over, so that the power of one side is against the other. This surely is
a road of destruction for any democratic nation.
*Only democracies can adapt to current uncertainties—incorporating the 7
values*
Why am I speaking about democracy and these two factions at this time?
It is because democracy is the only political system that has /any/
possibility of adapting to the future and the uncertain circumstances of
the present moment, adaptation to the circumstances that creates a
species who can sustain themselves into the future. Your Homo sapiens
species has learned to adapt as a species, but what is missing is that
the organized substance of your societies—of your democratic
civilization—has not learned how to adapt! Those values that are
embedded in the DNA of your species are /not/ embedded in the
organizational DNA of your organizations—whether they be churches,
whether they be corporations of any type, non-profits, and,
particularly, in your governmental processes. Neither are they a part of
your executive branch, judicial branch, or legislative branch.
*You are on a crash course*
So, you see, the trajectory of your nations is on a course of collapse
and crashing. Only those people who can appreciate these moments will
appreciate, then, what your read in the books by Jared Diamond the
historian, by Chris Martenson (/The Crash Course:/ /The Unsustainable
Future of Our Economy/), and William Strauss and Neil Howe//(/The Fourth
Turning: What the Cycles of History Tell us About America’s next
Rendezvous with Destiny/). Those books are fairly accurate as your own
esteemed historians and futurists have evaluated. They have assessed
your histories and put it in terms that you can understand.
Because democracies are the only form of government that can adapt
itself, it therefore must be in tune with the social change that occurs
within your citizenry. Social change is an important factor to improve
the conduct of societies and the evolution towards a more equitable
basis for its operation. You will not find that in dictatorships. You
can see where dictatorships and totalitarian governments have led you.
You can recall Stalin. You can recall Hitler. You can recall Mao Zedong,
Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and others. Those are all negative influences by
individuals and their groups of supporters that caused the collapse and
destruction of their societies. It requires deep, deep thought and
ingenuity to think of how to sustain a society—a nation—into the future
without dominating anyone at all and providing the freedom individuals
need to grow into their innate potential.
*Reforming the foundations of your civilization using all 7 core values*
Therefore, and because of that, we have begun this diligent and
consciously deliberate process of starting at the foundations of
building your civilization into one that expresses the best of
democracies and of the freedoms and capabilities of individuals and of
organizations. You can create a nation and civilization /unconsciously/
by using the four primary values, but it takes /conscious/ thought,
/conscious/ deliberation and decision making using the three secondary
values to consciously develop a thriving democracy of the four primary
values into one that sustains itself well into the future.
*The heart of humanity must come forward*
You could interpret this as saying that the heart of humanity must come
forward to generate its own longevity. It must be generous enough and
trustworthy enough to guide individuals into the future to develop their
potential, to improve their quality of life, and to allow the greatest
amount of freedom without jeopardizing the freedoms of others. This is
truly a democracy. This is the best of what can come about, and this is
a junior level of what you would see were you to live another 300 years
in the approach of the Days of Light and Life. Thank you.
*Walt:*Good day everybody. Machiventa, I am touched and impressed with
the urgency and the depth (meaning heartfeltness) of your message. I
thank you for this arousing call to wake up. Also, I wanted to say to
Jim that I am very, very impressed and grateful with your editing of
these sessions. It’s a tremendous work both in the formatting and the
organization. I’m giving thanks for that.
*An appeal for Divine intervention*
Now to get to the point. I do have 8 questions. I will only ask 3 to
give others a chance and leave it to the moderator’s discretion on when
to stop, but I will, in consideration of others, just ask three though
there will be a total of 8. Here’s the first question. For over 200,000
years we have been extensively subjected to self-defeating conditioning
and programming by disloyal and renegade non-mortal actors—as if free
will were not sacrosanct. The result is that the human will is hardly
free because it has been profoundly corrupted to bend us toward
self-destructive behaviors while actively hampering our social progress
and spiritual uplift. In this context, I appeal to Divinity to, at
minimum, release humanity from the shackles of a corrupted and confused
will. Using the relevant spirit energies, please bestow on us the gifts
of one, clarity, and two, the freedom of a healed will which would
enable us both to understand and to actively choose the glorious
potentials to be found in fully embracing co-creativity with celestial
light workers such as you, Machiventa, and your team. And hence my
direct question is: To what extent can this type of request be granted?
*Free will is sovereign in all regards*
*MM:*Dear Walt, this is Machiventa. We adamantly disagree with your
tenet that people’s will are inherently flawed and that they are being
controlled by some outside source. This is completely contrary to God’s
will that the will of the individual is sovereign in all regards. We
would suggest that you amend your question and your thinking regarding
the will of human beings as one that is influenced by parents and by
society and by media and by other influences upon them as they grow up
and as they are subjected to peer pressure and so on.
*Celestial team “moving ahead” or waiting for humanity*
*Walt:*That is wonderfully insightful, and that definitely, completely
changes the landscape of my question. I will definitely give meditative
thought given that new understanding about what would be better to more
accurately ask. My second question is: While discussing an eminent,
tangible, and positive initiative by your team in NET #75, you asserted
that you and your team would be moving forward whether the mortals join
in or not. The determination you stated was: “Lead, follow, or get out
of the way, because we are moving ahead.” However, in NET #98, you
stated that the team is waiting for humans to be
overjoyed/enthusiastic/jubilant about the possibility of having
assistance in times of stress and difficulty. And my question is: What
has caused this 180-degree turn toward this softened approach?
*MM:*Within the narrow parameters of a mortal’s vision and
understanding, it would appear to be 180-degrees of change, however we
operate on a much more inclusive basis as the breadth of our
understanding of what is occurring includes those who /do /stand in the
way, those who /do/ oppose, and those who are resistant. There are those
who want to participate in helping us, and they are part of our team as
you are and the others who read these materials and so on. We include
the possibility that individuals may change their mind; that they see
that the times may change in their world around them and that they need
to come along with us to be of assistance. We have always invited those
who stand aside, those who are bystanders, those who observe but do not
participate. They neither help us nor hinder us. They are simply there,
and we ask them to come on board. Those who are deniers, those who are
outliers who wait for an opportunity to dislodge or disrupt our
progress, those individuals have no assistance for us. They are totally
supported by the beneficence of our Creator and by Christ Michael, and
by their Thought Adjuster, guardian angels, and so on. We thank you for
your question.
*Necessity for major cataclysmic trauma?*
*Walt:*OK, thank you too, Machiventa. And my third question before
giving the opportunity for others is: Despite our profoundly limited
mortal capacity to grasp universe reality, when I ponder the reality of
infinite intelligence and infinite power, I struggle to accept that
there is absolutely no possibility in /all/ reality for this world to
have a spiritual and social turn around without major cataclysmic
trauma. And so, my question is: Is it your understanding that there
exists no other spiritually legitimate way in all reality to accomplish
our spiritual and social uplift except through including radical trauma.
*God is the Center of all*
*MM:*Dear Walter, you keep singing the same song but a different stanza.
The truth is that your world does not need trauma to change its course.
It needs to have the understanding that God is the center of all, the
ultimate reality, and that each of you have a part of that ultimate
reality within yourselves. These calamities on your world were not
caused by the Creator nor by us or by Christ Michael. These calamities
that you see—the fires, the floods, the hurricanes, the ice melting, and
so on—are consequences of human activities and natural consequences of
the initiation and creation of your world and the natural development
and ongoing development of a world as a physical, material entity that
is undergoing change for many reasons.
*Coming in a great clap of thunder—free will and co-creativity*
There are opportunities for the Creator, Christ Michael, and the First
Source and Center to come through your world in a great clap of thunder
and shake the bejesus out of everyone (laughter.) To have them awaken
into the realization that there is something truly grand and awesome in
the universe besides their own egos and their frightful bag of fears.
This is harsh verbiage I’m giving to you. Sometimes we give it to you in
an earthy phrase and colloquialisms, but you understand the point that
this is not possible because of the mandates of our First Source and
Center and Christ Michael. One is the mandate of your First Source and
Center that no individual’s [free] /will/ will be overturned. Second,
that Christ Michael has said this is a Correcting Time—one which is
/co-creative/—and that people learn their lessons and learn growth and
maturation in their spiritual and emotional selves through the process
of living—facing the realities that exist with them and by them that
/does/ shake them to their boots, and /does/ shatter their sense of
equanimity and their self-justified egoisms that they then feel they
have a right to express.
*Use your free will to become part of God’s grandeur*
Yes, this is a world of /great/ trauma, /immense/ trauma. It is rare to
see a world such as Urantia undergoing such a terrific, horrific
approach to the Days of Light and Life. And yes, you have not seen the
full breadth and depth of the destruction that will occur on your world
yet. And will it take these to overturn the dark hearts that are around
you and among you? No, it does not. It is the self-willed individual
ideas and /will/ to become a part of the grandeur that God has in store
for you. These developments coincide with this time in the history of
your planet where your planet is now /well/ overpopulated by at least
two thirds, and that you will see a tremendous loss of life in the
future. Is this a part of God’s plan? No. This is a part of the
overpopulation and the lack of consideration and forethought by
individuals to control their needs to reproduce, their needs for
selfish, material self-aggrandizement, and so on. You are truly seeing,
Walt, the crash of your world. You are witnessing this. You may ascribe
this all to God and to Christ Michael, but it is not of their will.
Their will is peace for everyone—a sense of peace that passes all
understanding within the minds and hearts of individuals. This is what
is God’s will for /you/ and for all your fellow men, women, and friends
here in this world.
Yes, my friend. I would be afraid too were I in your shoes in this world
at this time.
*Walt:*I am just so in awe of your answer in every expression. I am just
grateful for it all. And no, it is not too harsh. It is exactly what we
need to hear and understand. I have nothing but full-hearted thanks for
your answers—every word. I will turn the floor over to others and hope I
can get another chance to ask the additional questions. Thank you so
much, Machiventa.
*We do not offer hints, but you need to have forethought*
**
*Bea:*Good morning or afternoon Machiventa. Thank you again for these
sessions. I thought about, actually, whether or not I should withdrawal
my question, but I’m going to go ahead and ask. In your introduction you
referred to the possibility of martial law following the election. Is
this possibly a hint that the incumbent will remain in office? And if
this is the case, it would obviously be a great disappointment to some
of us. How would you recommend that we handle it? I guess personally I’m
asking. I admit [that] if that does happen, I am going to be fairly
disappointed. I might even be distraught.
*MM:*Thank you. You make some /vast/ assumptions in your opening
comments and your opening sentences. We do not offer any hints. We do
not offer any suggestions of what may occur. It /may/ occur, but of
course all of this is totally /dependent/ upon the decisions of mortals.
You, as thoughtful citizens of a democracy, should be forethoughtful.
You should have the foresight to think of possibilities which are
repugnant and violent to your consciousness and violent to your rights.
Failing to do so, you remain very naïve citizens. We are not suggesting
that this will occur. We are not suggesting that it /won’t/ occur. We
are suggesting that the peaceful evolution of your democracy take place:
peaceful /social/ evolution, peaceful /political/ evolution, [and]
peaceful /economic/ evolution are needed for your nation and /all/
democratic nations. The difficulties you are seeing are the chaffing
between the rights of individuals and the rights of a society to grow
and mature [but] held in place by antiquated, crystalized, archaic
social institutions which have become formalized to the degree that they
seem to be concrete, immovable, and implacable. Citizens always have the
right to change their minds. Citizens always have the right to protest
[that] which is repugnant to their humanity. Not by revolution, not by
violence, not by killing or eliminating the opposition, but formalizing
groups of thoughtful individuals into powerful, political blocks of
opinion—blocks of opinion that now need to become part of the other
dominating fields of thought. Conservatism isn’t bad. Liberalism isn’t
bad. You see, these /must/ come into a balance.
*The excellent and just balance*
Christ Michael has always, as Jesus, espoused the even flow. Not the
average, not the mediocre, but the excellent and just balance. You have
that within you to do that. And do not think that we are participants of
formalizing or fomenting an opposition of violence. This is not our
case. We would never do that, and we would be in opposition to that in
general terms without invading the minds of individuals. It is the work
of the Most Highs to work in the organization of humanity, of mankind,
of your social institutions, to change the minds within groups to go in
the right direction, to be thoughtful and reasonable. So, please
rephrase your thinking, thinking that I suggest that this is a
possibility or probability, for it is not. There is every opportunity to
change the future in the minds and opinions of individuals who have the
gumption—the “/chutzpah/”—to come forward and say what is right and tell
other people what is right. Thank you.
*Bea:*Thank you Machiventa. That’s the answer I wanted (laughing.) I
mean I’m grateful for your answer, but it does make me feel a lot
better. I do understand the concept of balance between conservatism and
liberalism, and really, we should not be crystalizing anything regarding
that. We should remain open-minded. I guess that brings that question to
a close. Thank you very much.
*MM:*You are most welcome.
*Ethics in artificial intelligence*
*John:*Hi, this is John from northern California. Thank you Machiventa.
I appreciate another opportunity to ask a question. I’ll keep asking
questions and learn how to do this with your help. I have two questions
today. The first one has to do with a wonderful documentary that has
just come out called /The Social Dilemma./ I don’t know if you are aware
of it, but it touches on the idea of /artificial intelligence/ (AI). I
went back and looked on BigMacSpeaks.life website and in NET #53 you
talked about artificial intelligence and you mentioned that you had sent
the two documents that you had worked through This One [Daniel] to
several dozen leading individuals of the AI industry. And I was just
curious about that. Is there any progress to report on that? Is there
any positive direction that has come about as a result of that? I would
appreciate it if you would comment on that if you are so inclined.
*MM:*Certainly. We, the co-creative element, have not received any
feedback from the documents that were forwarded to the AI industry. You
see, in the minds of those individuals, they were on the cusp of making
AI a powerful engine for their industry. Our work included to them the
ethics that are reasonable for an AI industry that wants to support all
of humanity. There is the self blindedness. Many of you are far too
young to realize that horses that pulled a plow had a harness that
included blinders, and these were to the outside of the head of the
horse to keep them from being distracted by what was to the side of
their peripheral vision. This kept them on course to go forward. This is
what has happened in the AI industry—that they are in disregard of the
well thought out ethics for the artificial intelligence industry. The
will to have more advantage over others and to take advantage of an
electronic industry through AI is too much on their mind to dominate the
industry and the market as far as they’re concerned. You see, the ones
who are making decisions are still the “old white men” who want profit
over humanity and morality. They want to increase profits while
increasing the bottom line for all concerned. That may sound cynical,
and yes, it is appropriately so, because there is a mindedness to
disregard ethical guidance when ethical guidance is needed and for which
they themselves have made such a to-do about until only the last few
months where they have closed their minds and closed their mouths
regarding ethics.
*Guidance on being a Transmitter/Receiver*
*John:*Thank you. I appreciate that update. My second question is more
of a personal one. I’m just wondering if you can suggest things that
would help in my practice in terms of trying to become more effective at
transmitting/receiving?
*MM:*Yes, and this is general guidance for everyone who is interested in
being an effective T/R with greater ease and greater fluidity. The most
effective T/R is one who is self-forgetful, one who is no longer
involved in the process, one who does not think of what is incoming and
outgoing—incoming through your mind and outgoing through your mouth. It
is the T/R who is self-forgetful to the point where there is an natural
flow from the celestial, the angelic, or divine individual through the
T/R without thought. Thought by the individual who thinks about what is
being said—who analyses it or puts it into a cache, so to speak, in the
mental process—is one who is then interfering in the process. We seek
those fluid individuals who do not hold the message, think about it, and
then paraphrase what is said. We prefer T/Rs who are not into a mental
process at all—those who act as somewhat of an automaton on our behalf
and on the behalf of Christ Michael. This automaton state of T/Ring does
not disregard the individuality of an individual but holds the
individual in high regard who has sacrificed their will to the will of
Christ Michael and to the will of the message coming through. This is a
particular state of being that the mortal has to learn—to be
self-forgetful to the point where they forget they are involved in the
process, that they are simply just another person in the audience
listening to the message. This is, perhaps, the most difficult part of
any mortal existence—to forget yourself and forget your ego and to
[realize] the fact that the ego has no part and parcel of this at /all/.
In fact, its absence is totally necessary for the process to flow evenly
and smoothly.
*John:*Thank you so much Machiventa. I do appreciate the thought and the
willingness of you to join with us and consider these things. Thank you.
*A mass awakening today?*
*Raymon:*Good morning or afternoon Machiventa, this is Raymon. I’m
passing on a question from a third party. And the question is: There has
been a great deal of discussion via various transmissions in the last
months regarding mass awakening. Some have speculated that this might
occur in an event of some kind, such as what happened at Pentecost.
Would you be willing to share with us whether there is such a thing as
mass awakening as part of the Correcting Time, and, if so, how will this
happen?
*MM:*First of all, thank you for your question and relaying the question
to us. Again, Urantia is a most peculiar place to live, to reside, and
to participate with spirit in this awakening. Because of the co-creative
nature of the advent of the Correcting Time and of this transition era,
the awakening must be in the consciousness of the individual. We are in
observance of the needs of the Most High and God the Supreme to awaken
individuals to the necessity of consciously coming into the embrace with
the Divinity within them. We do not foresee an awakening of the nature
of the Spirit of Truth coming upon humanity for it is here. We do not
foresee the presence and eminence of Christ Michael coming upon this
world either, nor that of Nebadonia. Their presence is here. The most
that can be learned from humanity’s experience at the individual level
is the conscious awakening of the individual to the awareness that God
is around them, within them, and is in the care of all.
What you are relaying is that there would be a simultaneous and
spontaneous “ah-ha” in the consciousness of each individual around the
world. Those who are of the nature of God, those who have willed to do
God’s will, and those who are in the observance of the life and
lifestyle and decisions of Christ Michael already have that awareness.
/They/ will be the ones who come into individual consciousness of the
“ah-ha” moment and realize that “ah-ha,” this is a time of deciding.
This is a time that is very familiar to fundamentalist Christians who
decide—come into consciousness with the Christ consciousness—to be
observant of the good around them, and to know that their lives are in
transition all the time through their awareness of Christ being in their
life all the time. No, we do not foresee an awakening of the old times
that are spoken of in the Old Testament, or the New Testament, and of
those moments when the Spirit of Truth crossed the boundaries of
consciousness on your world so that it entered the minds of all those
who were open and receptive (and even those who weren’t) to awaken those
who had the possibility of knowing that something was afoot of a
spiritual nature. Thank you.
*Raymon:*Thank you Machiventa.
*Support those who make sense*
*Dennis:*Thank you for taking my question. This is Dennis from central
Colorado. In your opening statement I heard you say that if the
president is re-elected, there is a likelihood of martial law,
presumably to counter the violence from his opposition. My question is,
given the shortness of time before the election, what can I do, and what
can other members of this group do or change to influence or alter this
outcome?
*MM:*I would like to correct your first statement. I did not say that
martial law would be enacted if this current president were re-elected.
I conditioned that in further statements to other questions that
related. The real importance of your question lies in “what can I do?”
One, you can support those individuals who, when they make speeches,
make sense. Make sense in terms of what is good for all humanity—what is
of an equal nature for all humanity. It is important that the presence
of women be wholeheartedly included in all democratic processes in the
future. There are some who do make good sense and they need your
support. It is one of the fallible points of your democracy that it is
divided. It is divided among a two-party system, and yet it is workable
in some regard. You have seen multiparty systems come to a quagmire of
decision-making and incapability in France and Italy. Multiple parties
are certainly useful, and you have yet, as democratic nations, to
formulate a process so that their voices are included. That strengthens
the process for all. This requires a higher consciousness that surpasses
most political consciousness at this time.
*Pragmatic idealism*
We are enthusiastic, however, that there are pragmatic idealists who
espouse certain concepts in democracy that should be, could be, used in
part and applied in part to your current democratic process. Many would
espouse revolution—a total change of system, a total change of process.
This is untenable as well, for there is too much lost in revolution to
be regained through the idealism of those revolutions. What you are
asking for is how to become a pragmatist while striving to fulfill the
ideal. You are really addressing the points of the heart (as humans know
the heart—the Christ mindedness within yourself) to take on the work of
higher-minded, heart-centered work and still not be in opposition to the
mindedness that is required to manage a society and manage a planet. How
can you be of assistance? Be open-minded my friend. Thank you.
*Dennis:*I’m very grateful for your answer, Machiventa. Thank you.
*Craig:*Good morning Machiventa. This is Craig.
*MM:*Good to hear from you Craig.
*Evolution in the democratic process*
*Craig:*Well, thank you. My question is political as well, along….
perhaps, following this topic. We want to get to a balance in our whole
political system, but as I see it, the way we vote, especially the
single X ballot, seems to promote extremism. Instead of voting for the
person that we think we might like the best, we vote for the person that
we think is most likely to prevent the one we like the least from
attaining the office. So, without going into specifics, is the changing
of the balloting system, in particular, a way to help get better balance
and swing that pendulum towards the middle instead of to the extremes?
Thanks.
*MM:*We wholeheartedly agree with you, and we see that changing the
ballot process is one of many changes that need to take place in
democracies. This would be a part of the evolution of the democratic
process. There are many factors involved in an evolution of a social
institution [such] as the democratic process. It is not individualistic
in its means, but of multiple approaches to advancing the interests of
everyone. You will hear more about this in the near future. You may have
an interest in one of the future videos that comes about that talks
about the three stages of democracy, and that the current stage—Stage II
Democracy—has outgrown its usefulness. It is now antiquarian, and must
evolve into the third stage, or revert back to the first stage. We, of
course, of the Correcting Time, in the interests of the Most Highs,
espouse that which is for the good of the Correcting Time and the
advancement of socially mature, spiritually eager societies and social
institutions. This is the necessity of these times. You are in the
greatest transition of human civilization ever to occur on this planet.
It will impact all 7.8 billion people in the eventuality of time, and
particularly those who remain after the decimation. You are in many ways
building a future that is tenable, that is workable, that is malleable,
that is adaptive—one that takes on the concerns of thoughtful decision
making as you suggest in the ballot. This is the essence of an advanced
democracy where citizens are the final authority for the state of
existence of their democracy, and, ultimately, the final /responsible/
authority to do so. This is a great absence that is occurring in Stage
II Democracies now—citizens do not feel the weight of that
responsibility, and thus do not give their decisions the weight of
thought they deserve.
*Feedback in democratic systems*
*Craig:*Thank you. And it occurs to me that something that even seems to
be missing in our second stage democracies is a process of feedback from
the citizenry to the decision-making bodies. That once they make a
decision, they don’t know whether it was a good decision or a bad
decision, and it often affects society in adverse ways that aren’t being
recognized, perhaps until much later. Do you have a comment on that?
*MM:*Well, certainly and thank you for your question/statement. This is
music to our ears. Democracy is impossible without feedback to those who
are ultimately responsible. This is a way of changing the power
structure of the current democratic process where you have the executive
branch, judicial branch, and the legislative branch. All of these are
players in the middle between the people who are the ultimate authority,
and the people, the public, who are ultimately responsible. The process
we see in the future would be that these individuals who are elected or
appointed in these three branches would become more technically expert
in their fields of endeavor. Their work, as they perceive it now, is to
obscure public participation. This must change, so the feedback process
must become more immediate and much more accurate.
*Rebuilding in alignment with the 7 values*
Let me cut through all of this, please, to help you understand what we
are doing in the long scale. What we are doing is rebuilding your
civilization. How can you do that? You must have the right tools, the
right dimensions, and the right processes to make that work. For one, we
are espousing the use of the seven values. These are measurable, these
are timeless, these are your metric tools that you can use to make
consistently moral and ethical decisions. That, and public feedback from
those processes that are public, can help you make better decisions.
What is so confusing to all of you is the human /interpretations/ of
those seven values. You have thousands upon thousands upon thousands of
interpretations of those values, but there is no process that you have
at present to take back or go back or revert back to the final analysis
of where those interpretations have come from. Once you have that final
analysis, then you can begin building social institutions that are
functional, that work, and that are /fair/. The unfairness that you have
now is due to personal interpretation and the manipulation of those
values that America and the democracies hold so dear. That they are now
subject to further interpretation by those who are in power—to benefit
themselves. What is further necessary is that from these seven values
emanate a rational and logical ethic and morality. This is the final
analysis for a functional democracy—that its morality and ethic that
underlie the basic tenets of freedom, social institutions, and the
governance of the public stand in place and be unshakable. This is
necessary for a rational democracy and for the Days of Light and Life to
come into being. You are now sitting on quivering sand as you hear the
earthquake beneath you in social, political, and economic dimensions. It
is now [time] to think of and prepare for /permanence/—timeless,
immutable, irreversible, and irreducible values that hold permanence for
everyone concerned universally. Thank you.
*Craig:*Thank you very much, and we see once again that it comes back to
the basics of the program that is being espoused in the Correcting Time
program and all the basic things that are being promulgated in that.
Thank you very much.
*MM:*Thank /you/.
*Asking for help and growth—be open to it*
*Doug: *Good morning. Thanks for taking my call Machiventa. You ask us
to open up and seek our own connection with God within. My question is,
how do we ask for help and growth without that falling over to selfish
prayer?
*MM:*Well, the answer is one you can apply immediately, and we wish you
to no longer ask, but to /realize/ that God /is /available always, all
the time, and immediately for you. You do not have to ask for this, you
simply have to become /open/ to it. And you may ask for God to assist
you to become open and willing to receive God’s guidance in your moments
of stillness, thoughtfulness, and reverie. It is important that you
understand the difference. You are not praying for God; you are praying
for yourself. You’re asking God to help you to be open to receive God’s
guidance. That is always available for everyone equally. Does this help,
or can I explain this further for you?
*Doug:*Yes, I guess the notion of selfish prayer, that somehow asking
for things for yourself, is kind of not what we are intended to do. That
if I wanted to see love in the world, I need to send God’s love /out/ to
the world and, therefore, I receive God’s love through that—as opposed
to just asking for God’s love for myself.
*MM:*Correct.
*Doug:*Thank you for your time.
*MM:*You’re most welcome. Thank you for /your/ time.
*Liz on a journey—personality gravity*
*Liz:*Good morning Machiventa. It’s good to be with you again. Thank you
as always for being with us. I’ve been quite taken by the concept that I
can be a student at Melchizedek University, and that makes me kind of
excited to go to sleep at night and look forward to whatever lessons I
am privileged to have. So, the other night I had an experience, and I
differentiate this from a dream. This seemed like no dream. I was in the
middle of the ocean in something like an outrigger canoe with someone
else and I asked where the map was to get us to the place where we were
supposed to go as there was no land in sight. And the person with me
(the guide) said: “We don’t need a map. Personality gravity will pull us
to them.” So, my question is: Is personality gravity a thing? And my
follow-up question is: Is the lesson here that I should just relax and
know that I will be drawn to the right people at the right time where I
can be of the most service, or is there something more that I should
take from this experience? And feel free to disabuse me if it was simply
a dream.
*MM:*I chuckle to myself in your statement and question because it is a
rare moment when we get to observe this in others—what you have
experienced. And no, this was not “just a dream.” This was your lucid
encounter with your Thought Adjuster on a canoe of life crossing the
great void of the unknown. Yes, there is personality gravity. This is
real. It is something that you are well acquainted with, and we hope you
will become even more fully acquainted with. It is being open to say to
your Thought Adjuster, your teachers, and angels, to say that, “I’m open
to be led to those individuals who will be of assistance to me, and
please help me to avoid those who would not.” And you ask that they
assist you to be attracted to those individuals who would assist you and
to avoid those who would not. And then, upon asking that and saying that
to them, you would say: “Would you be willing to do that with me?” And
they will say yes. And then you will say: “Please move ahead to fulfill
that. Who do I need to meet next?”
This is very conversational. It is very personal. It is something that
is very intimate to your spiritual growth and to the fulfillment of your
life’s mission during your mortal lifetime. This is conscious, spiritual
evolution in the making. This is something that you can do with your
guardians, your Thought Adjuster, teachers, and those Midwayers who are
of assistance to you. You want to be led to those individuals who can
help you, and those individuals who can help you would be led /to/ you,
and that you have the mindedness to discern which is which and what is
helpful and that which is not. You see, during your brief mortal
lifetimes you really do not have the time to dally about in the time
that you have remaining. That you use your time wisely, and that for
those students that are spiritually diligent and want to earnestly move
forward in their life’s career and their life’s work, that they have the
greatest advantage to do so. And that they can be most productive in
assisting their soul growth and being of service to Christ Michael /at
the same time/. This is a remarkable coincidence, and we appreciate your
sharing this with us.
*Liz:*Well, thank you so much.
*Scott:*Good afternoon Machiventa. It’s a pleasure to be in your company
and to be speaking with you once again. As a long-time practitioner of
politics at a very practical level (since my youth—quite a number of
decades ago now), I’ve been involved in many different undertakings,
including trying to help restore… Oh, by the way, I’m from Imperial
Canada, so I’ll be talking a bit about the Canadian context of
parliamentary democracy. We had a very big split between
conservative-minded people that created a situation where winning an
election was next to impossible to do because of that. However, there
were a lot of good reasons for that separation that many of us in the
Legacy Party found important. I guess one of the biggest lessons I’ve
learned is: we managed, finally, after about 10 years of sustained
effort and a couple of leadership contests, [to realize the] necessity
of the status quo parties—the two parties—brought them back together
again which I think [helped] restore competitive balance. And I think a
competition is very, very important, but it occurs to me that the
citizenry of our respective countries don’t appreciate the blood and
sacrifice that was made by /so/ many brave men and women in the Pacific
Rim and in Europe in particular in the world wars to give us the
/privilege/ of electoral franchise. And there’s work to be done to help
educate and elevate them to understand that their lack of participation
is really self-fulfilling in terms of a.) bad, non-progressive outcomes
to election campaigns, and b.) not helping us /evolve/ as we might
otherwise be able to do. It’s also occurred to me, through some of the
other sessions and reading I’ve been doing during this period of time,
that it would be very helpful for people in the Urantia movement in
particular to help write op-ed articles and to try to get work out into
the public domain through social media or other ways, that could open up
the hearts and minds of more fundamentalist Christian thinkers and even
other faiths to recognize God’s Supremacy and His very real presence and
availability for all of us. There’s a lot of great writing that’s been
done by members of the Urantia community. I think particularly, always,
of Meredith Sprunger (who I had the privilege of meeting a number of
times a long time ago) [and his works] like “The meaning of the Cross”,
for example. Maybe we should be working on getting more organized to put
a lot of this information out and to put ideas out as well. That would
be very helpful for the teaching time that we are in right now. And
also, it was very disturbing for me to hear that efforts to get people
in the AI industry more educated to contemplate their responsibilities
beyond just the bottom line did not succeed and maybe there are things
that could be done through public opinion to help with that as well.
*MM:*And your point, sir?
*Scott:*Are these things we could be doing to help mobilize people to be
writing more, trying to put information out and op-ed pieces into
newspapers, magazines, and social media that would be helpful to the
uplifting and to changes that need to be made to get people more tuned
into the fact that changing government is /not/ a hopeless situation?
The opportunity is within everybody to participate more actively and
appreciate the privilege of franchise that so many other countries in
the world do not have. That may help spiritually uplift the process and
changes that are being sought.
*MM:*I do not know how to respond to your long statement.
*Who has the power to change that?*
*Scott: *I’m sorry it was so long. I’m just speaking from personal
experience about how so many people feel that there is nothing they can
do to make change, and it occurred to me that the knowledge and insight
that many of us have in the Urantia community and those who are choosing
to participate in the Correcting Time, that we could be helping to give
hope and uplift people and lead them to higher ground.
*MM:*A moment please. I challenge you: Who has the power to change that?
*Scott:*Well it’s up to individuals who have the free will, obviously,
to make those changes.
*MM:*Exactly.
*Scott:*And I think in terms of the concept of personality gravity and
everything. But if we help bring out different ideas more into the
public domain in a higher profile way, then maybe we can help change
this defeatist culture that we seem to have, and the thinking that
there’s nothing you can do about it, all politicians are corrupt, etc.
etc., right? And we can’t strive for the higher levels that you were
commenting on earlier this afternoon.
*MM:*Again, who has the power to change that?
*Scott:*We do. With God’s help.
*MM:*And who is we?
*Scott: *I guess we as individuals who….
*MM:*How about starting with me? The little lowercase “me”—meaning
yourself. Do you have the power?
*Scott:*I believe I do, and I think I’ve seen the effects of that
positively in past undertakings of attracting good quality people into
public life and changing the parliamentary structure here in Canada.
*MM:*Then you need to tell others that you have the power, and ask them:
“Do they have the power?”
*Scott:*Yes.
*Power is very fluid*
*MM:*You see, power is very fluid. If you say you have the power, you
have the power. When you forget to say that you have the power, then you
have given away your power and you are powerless. And others can use
your power of not saying anything. It is important that you empower
yourself by saying: “I have the power.” This is the only way that
democracies survive. This is the /only/ way that dictatorships are
overthrown to become democracies. You must say: “I have the power,” and
through that you can express your God-given sonship with the
Creator—that you have the power and you have the power through Christ,
Christ Michael, Jesus and his way of life. This is something that can
appeal to Christian liberals, Christian conservatives, and all
God-believers no matter of what persuasion—whether they are liberal or
conservative. If you are centered in God, then you love your neighbor
and you would empower your neighbor to empower themselves and empower
more people beyond that. It is important for individuals to realize that
democracies are totally dependent upon the empowerment of the citizen.
You have said so yourself. You have said so in the statements that they
need to be educated and the education begins by saying: “I am empowered.
What do I need to do to express my power peacefully?” Thank you.
*Scott:*Thank you.
*JT:*We have more questions, but I’m afraid we are out of time.
Machiventa, do you have a closing statement?
*Empower yourself, empower your society*
**
*MM: *Certainly. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. These last statements
that were just given to Scott are to everyone. It is to everyone who
wants to change this world to become a better world, to become a world
that is openly, eagerly receptive to the presence of God, to the
presence of a /good/ society, and to being responsible for what occurs
around themselves and in themselves—what they think, what they say, and
what they do—and to encourage others to live a rightful life. I do not
use the word “righteousness” as it has been abused so many times in the
past; but rightful living and rightful thinking are necessary to have a
life that works both for an individual, for a family, and for a whole
society. If you’re not able to participate as a functional, working part
of your society, then empower yourself to do so. And empower your
society and your agencies of governance to assist you in that process.
*You are not powerless. You have the power of the God presence within you.*
You are not powerless. You can call upon your Thought Adjuster to assist
you. You can call upon your Thought Adjuster to bring you to individuals
who can assist you and to whom you can assist. Your guardian is there to
assist you [to] do the same. You can also empower your Thought Adjuster
(though it is a totally independent authority) to move ahead in a
direction that /you/ think is useful and God-like. You can do the same
for your guardian angel and to the teachers and angels who are around you.
You are not powerless. You have the power of the God presence within you
to make decisions that are God-like, and to empower those spiritual
beings around you to assist in doing God’s will through /your/ life. We
give thanks for your presence here today, and for your /empowerment,
/and how you will be a meaningful participant and creator of the future
you want your children to live through. Thank you.
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