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On 10/16/2020 2:47 AM, James Travis wrote:
>
> *2020-10-05, NET #101, Machiventa*
>
> New Era Transition #101 – (Find this and previous NETs at: 
> https://bigmacspeaks.life/_)_
>
> To attend these sessions live contact *JT* at UpwardInward at gmail.com 
> <mailto:UpwardInward at gmail.com>
>
> Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager
>
> Topics:
>
> *Your role in all this*
>
> *Traditional values and beliefs no longer serve you well*
>
> *Plan of The Correcting Time—learn the new culture, values, and beliefs*
>
> *UB Paper 72 and the 7 core values*
>
> *Christ Michael’s order of priorities for you*
>
> *Traditional values and beliefs can be out of date—the hunting party*
>
> *We recommend that you come into alignment with the God presence within*
>
> *Your institutions need new beliefs and values that echo those of your 
> species*
>
> *You are on the cusp of generating a new era*
>
> *Swords into plowshares—nuclear weapons*
>
> *Our work is to bring your world into The Correcting Time. The wisdom 
> of POGO*
>
> *Be loyal to the core values*
>
> *Examine your traditional beliefs in the light of the 7 core values*
>
> *Whole agreement needed to be useful for peaceful intent*
>
> *Withholding love to discipline children*
>
> *Children learn by example*
>
> *Influences of Machiventa in ancient Egypt*
>
> *Afterlife of pets*
>
> *How confident? Not very. Cultures have inertia.*
>
> *Transforming cultures, values, and beliefs may require existential 
> crises*
>
> *Reality of existential crisis not yet appreciated by the masses*
>
> *World transition; delaying the progress of Nebadon and negative entities*
>
> *Positive influence of Nebadonia’s work*
>
> *Zero-point energy*
>
> *Connecting values to the universal core values*
>
> *An ambiguous question about UB Paper 71*
>
> *Zero-point energy and the fossil industry*
>
> *Holding your breath and the transition of hope*
>
> *We do not sugarcoat this—those days of the “good life” are gone*
>
> *Worry all around. Selfishness must go away.*
>
> *You are not abandoned. You are a part of the transition.*
>
> TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
>
> Participants from: Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Mexico, South 
> Africa, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela. If I missed your 
> country, please let me (*JT*) know at UpwardInward at gmail.com 
> <mailto:UpwardInward at gmail.com>
>
> Invocation: Jeff
>
> 2020-10(Oct)-05
>
> *Your role in all this*
>
> *Machiventa:*Good morning. This is Machiventa Melchizedek. It is a 
> wonderful day to be here. There are many in the world who are 
> aggrieved by conditions around them—conditions in their lives and so 
> on—yet, in the Father, all is at peace, all is well, and all is calm. 
> Many of you have wondered about your role in all this. You haven’t 
> said as much to me—haven’t asked me about that—but I’ll tell you. Your 
> role is /first/ to learn more fully how to do God’s will. The /second/ 
> is to learn how to love your neighbors and to love yourself in spite 
> of your foibles, in spite of your difficulties, and in spite of your 
> weaknesses. And /third/, you are learning to love the God presence 
> within you—that this is an extension, the essence, the fragment of the 
> Father in Paradise, and through this you become greater. You have 
> direct access to understanding and knowing what God’s will is, to 
> discover your role in this work, and to discover how you make a 
> difference. Your lives are not easy. We recognize that fully. For no 
> matter whether you are a martyr in the Roman circus over 2000 years 
> ago or whether you are living in a nation that is well developed, has 
> a good economy, and a high quality of life, humans have difficulty. 
> Mortals have difficulty in the challenges that they face in their 
> lives wherever they are and whatever century and whatever condition 
> their lives are. And /fourth/, your role is to assist us in the 
> recovery plan. In some ways Christ Michael has named this /The 
> Correcting Time/. That’s another way of saying recovery. This is /The 
> Recovery Time/. This is The Correcting Time. On one side of that is 
> recovery—where you will assist us in designing your societies; your 
> social institutions that become functional and help the progress of 
> your societies, the growth of individuals, the functionality of 
> families so that they are loving families and teach children how to 
> love one another equally. It is the Correcting Time as well—that is to 
> correct the faults of the past—and the recovery plan is side by side 
> with that. To correct the past, you must have a plan for the future 
> for it to recover. This is being revealed to you slowly.
>
> *Traditional values and beliefs no longer serve you well*
>
> You have read about the 7 values and the morality and ethics that 
> emanate from those values. Now, how do you apply that to your social 
> institutions? These will be revealed to you slowly so that you become 
> aware of what works and what does not work. You may wonder why it is 
> that these values, these lifestyles, these beliefs that you live with 
> that we call the traditional beliefs and values came into existence. 
> At the time, there was a need for them, and they began to have values 
> that espoused what the people wanted to occur—the highest status of a 
> problem that they wanted to have resolved. It was a “make do” type of 
> solution. Now, however, you are finding that those traditional values 
> and beliefs and traditional solutions no longer serve the higher 
> purposes of your societies for now you are inundated, you are 
> surrounded by social problems, political problems, economic problems, 
> and so on. There are almost no fronts in your life where you can point 
> to and say: “Ha! This is working so well! This is wonderful!” For in 
> fact you cannot point to any of those areas that are working well 
> except perhaps in your own personal life where you see your children 
> growing up and growing into well-balanced and loving, capable 
> individuals who are socially competent, capable, and responsible. You 
> can point to other areas in your life as well, but it becomes very 
> personal doesn’t it?
>
> *Plan of The Correcting Time—learn the new culture, values, and beliefs*
>
> I use this example to point out to you that the traditional social 
> solutions to social problems no longer work. They are no longer 
> adequate to lead your nations, your societies, your commerce and all 
> the other areas of modern society into functional, working 
> relationships that benefit future generations. The challenge for you 
> is to learn the new culture, the new values, and new beliefs—the new 
> ways of living. This is the plan of the Correcting Time. You are 
> examples of this. You, through your lives and living are helping us 
> design these new social institutions into ones that not only work but 
> work very well and will work for thousands of years to address the 
> human problems that arise personally, socially, and globally. Your 
> Creator has provisioned you with the values that will enable you to 
> live a life that will eventually take you to Paradise—how to live 
> right, how to love right, how to /give/ right, how to receive right, 
> and so on.
> You have the means within you to resolve the problems of your society. 
> It is simply a matter of awakening to the resources within you which 
> is our job as your celestial teachers and trainers to do. And we are 
> very happy to do that. Considering the problems of Urantia, we all 
> have our work cut out for us, don’t we? Thank you.
>
> *JT:*All right, we are going to open it up for questions. Jeff, the 
> first question goes to you.
>
> **
>
> *UB Paper 72 and the 7 core values*
>
> **
>
> *Jeff:*Machiventa, may I enquire about the intention of including 
> Paper 72 /Government on a neighboring Planet /in the Urantia Papers 
> collection published in 1955?
>
> *MM:*And your question is?
>
> *Jeff:*I have several. First is, my reading of the paper through the 
> lens of 7 core values is that the government and social norms meet the 
> validation test. In your opinion, is this mostly so?
>
> *MM:*Jeff, I thank you for your question and your earnestness, however 
> our concerns are today and on this planet. That paper was included to 
> give readers a juxtaposition between that planet and your planet—a 
> difference in time. We have said in the past that these 7 values are 
> universal on all planets of sentient beings that have souls and a 
> fragment of Divinity within them. I do not want to be deflected from 
> the immediate course of events on your world now which are so imminent 
> to many individuals. Thank you.
>
> *Christ Michael’s order of priorities for you*
>
> *Walt:*Good morning, this is Walt. My first question is: In NET  97, 
> Machiventa, you revealed to us that, when we will and command 
> something that aligns with Christ Michael’s will, we become as 
> powerful as Christ Michael’s own command. Now, I have been daily 
> praying for the Father’s and Christ Michael’s will to have a foothold 
> on earth and for the Correcting Time team members to be blessed with 
> the thrills of meeting their objectives at a rate to their full 
> satisfaction. However, I would be thrilled if you would provide us 
> with a list of Christ Michael’s top priorities that we mortals can 
> daily practice willing and commanding into being. My hope is that we 
> mortals can partner with the light in a way that mightily accelerates 
> Christ Michael’s objectives for this world.
>
> *MM: *Oh, dear Walt. I do not mean to kick sand in your face, but 
> there is a certain egoism in your request that is a bit harsh. It is 
> what you think ought to be done. And a list would help whom? Would it 
> help you? Would it help the other listeners, the other readers, and so 
> on? You know what Christ Michael’s order of priorities are for you: to 
> love God as you love yourself; to love your neighbor the same; and, 
> imminently, to will to do God’s will in your life, and to discover 
> that through your daily actions, your daily decisions, and through 
> meditating, speaking, and being a student of your Thought Adjuster—the 
> God presence within you. There is sufficient work here for everyone to 
> do by following these simple three recommendations. Even Christ 
> Michael does not command you to do them, but recommends to you to do 
> those things which will lead you into Paradise and the embrace of the 
> Father.
>
> *Traditional values and beliefs can be out of date—the hunting party*
>
> *Walt:*Beautiful. Wonderful. I mean, it’s everything I need to hear on 
> this question. I can’t tell you how wonderful. This is no kicking 
> sand. It is a gift. Thank you. My second question is: Based on your 
> commands in NET 99 and NET 100, I am concluding that the three 
> dominoes of human downfall today are our conditioning, ego, and will. 
> First our negative conditioning engages the ego in self-defeating 
> ways. The ego then uses the will to commit to these self-defeating 
> behaviors even in the face of overwhelming evidence that we should 
> change course. Please evaluate this understanding and also advise us 
> on how to spiritually pursue the healing of our conditioning at the 
> three human levels; within ourselves as individuals, within our 
> affiliated groupings—like families and communities—and globally.
>
> *MM:*Certainly. The answers to your questions here echo what I said in 
> my entry statement: that you, as an individual representative of all 
> humanity on your world, have for the most part been indoctrinated, you 
> have been enculturated and socialized with beliefs and values that are 
> misaligned to the basic values that are innate to each person. You see 
> those traditional values and beliefs were generated to address 
> circumstances and situations such as you might find in an ancient 
> group of individuals [where] someone who has betrayed the leader of 
> this hunting group and all they have is spears, snares, and so on. 
> After the hunt everyone gathers around the fire and discusses what 
> occurred, and it becomes evident that everybody was quite disgusted by 
> one individual who had not been supportive of the efforts of the 
> leader. So, they said: “This is disloyalty. What is required is 
> loyalty.” And so, there are two values here. One is to be loyal to 
> honest, authentic, genuine, and benevolent leadership; and the other 
> is to not be disloyal. So, it’s a twofold recommendation. So, in the 
> circumstances loyalty became written into the code of the hunting 
> group that they would always be loyal to the leader’s recommendations 
> for that hunt, and that after the hunt they would evaluate together 
> what they did right to be successful as compared to the past times 
> when they were unsuccessful. And so, they continued to learn how to 
> improve their hunting techniques as a team and a group. They began to 
> have a brotherhood, let’s call it, or a sisterhood, where each one 
> made allegiance to the group and to the leadership that the group had.
>
> So, as you see, values began to be developed. Now, through the 
> centuries and millennia to the present time, you can see how loyalty 
> could be eventually misaligned with egotism, and to power, and to the 
> great deterrence of bigotry, hostility, and hatred of everyone else 
> who did not hold similar beliefs. So, what you are looking at now is 
> the need for your society (and you personally perhaps) and others to 
> examine their beliefs—their traditional beliefs that they were taught 
> or that they assimilated when they were children. Do they work? What 
> benefit are they? What are the extremes? Today many people who think 
> about loyalty would never associate loyalty with hatred and bigotry 
> outside the group, but that is what has happened has it not?
>
> *Walt:*Very much.
>
> *MM:*You saw it with Hitler. You saw it with other leaders, and 
> perhaps you’re even seeing it today. Thank you.
>
> *Walt:*Awesome. Thank you so much Machiventa. My last question for 
> this round before I give it to others is: Should the US society choose 
> a God-believing and God-loving leader?  What are the most powerful 
> ways for mortals to spiritually assist your team in having its maximum 
> influence on such a leader and its government for the purpose of 
> advancing the Correcting Time team’s agenda?
>
> *We recommend that you come into alignment with the God presence within*
>
> *MM:*Well Walt, I am agog at the breadth of your question and that you 
> would include so many people in such a broad effort. Again, we 
> recommend that the individual come into alignment with the God 
> presence within them—to sit in meditation and intentionally ask for 
> guidance through what this one calls “signs, symbols, and omens” to be 
> aware of the guidance that is out there. We have called it the line of 
> crumbs leading you out of the cave of darkness. We have also said it 
> is the string that you leave behind so you can get out of that cave 
> successfully. What you’re looking at in these changing times is signs 
> and evidence around you that God is at work, that there is a way 
> through this, and the way through is by the contributions of each 
> individual—the same thing that you are asking about. You see, these 
> times are times when it becomes more specific upon mortals to be aware 
> of the larger happenings of spirit around them. And yes, sometimes we 
> actually do write it on walls, on placards, and on those commercial 
> signs you see along the highway at a particular time when you are 
> asking about things that make you wonder about what to do.
>
> *Your institutions need new beliefs and values that echo those of your 
> species*
>
> So, the work that we do is at many times very mysterious to you. We 
> generally ask you to ascribe it to Providence—the beneficent good of 
> God through all people to lead them into an awareness of what works 
> and what does not work. /As we have said earlier, traditional values 
> and beliefs are not working to address modern problems. Thus, there is 
> a need, not to double down on your old traditional beliefs and to 
> stringently and heartily support those values and beliefs, but to 
> discover the evolution of your social institutions that need new 
> beliefs and need new values—values that echo those of your species. 
> /There is a need now for the evolution of your social institutions 
> such that [they] will support future generations for centuries and 
> centuries and millennia.
>
> *You are on the cusp of generating a new era*
>
> You are on the cusp of generating a new era in the civilization of 
> humanity on Urantia. Most people are unaware of this, but this is a 
> time to now strike those swords into plowshares (sometimes quite 
> literally) and in other perspectives through the written word and 
> through the guidance and learning through your thinking and conferring 
> with others and discussing this. What would you do to public education 
> for instance? What would you do with the social institution of 
> healthcare? And there are a dozen other social institutions which will 
> rely upon the same answer that you generate for these two to guide 
> them into the future and be of assistance rather than being readouts 
> for individuals who want to make a good salary until they retire. 
> Thank You.
>
> *Walt:*Thank you so much Machiventa. This is wonderful. I yield the 
> floor to others.
>
> *Swords into plowshares—nuclear weapons*
>
> *John: *This is John calling from Germany. Good morning Machiventa. I 
> have a question regarding what you said just a moment ago about 
> hammering those swords into plowshares in respect to nuclear weapons. 
> Today nearly 13,000 nuclear warheads worldwide are an existential 
> threat to life on Urantia. These weapons are many times more 
> destructive that the two bombs dropped on Japan 75 years ago which 
> together killed more that 200,000 people. Since 2017, there has been 
> in process a comprehensive United Nations treaty on the prohibition of 
> nuclear weapons. It is already adopted by 46 states. With 4 more 
> signatories, it will come into force 90 days thereafter. All nuclear 
> weapons will then be illegal under international law. However, among 
> other violations of international law, the nuclear weapon states are 
> improving and adding more lethal weapons to their arsenals. My 
> country, the U.S., has committed 1.7 trillion dollars over the next 30 
> years to modernize and build new weapons. And lastly, an association 
> of informed scientists sees the current nuclear threat to world peace 
> is the most severe since the height of the cold war and the U.N. 
> secretary general warned two days ago that the world is living in the 
> shadow of a nuclear catastrophe fueled by the growing distrust and 
> tension between the nuclear powers. My question then, Machiventa, is: 
> Is there a way for our world to expedite the complete elimination of 
> these weapons? Thank you.
>
> *Our work is to bring your world into The Correcting Time. The wisdom 
> of POGO*
>
> *MM:*Thank /you/. Your question harkens us to discuss what it takes to 
> destroy weapons, what it takes to create new weapons, what it takes to 
> bend the rules, to then abridge the rules, and that is: the first 
> phase of changing of bending of forging nuclear weapons into 
> plowshares and helpful industry is in the minds of individuals who 
> make those decisions. This is the ultimate first place to begin to 
> change your world from destruction into peace and construction. It is 
> a means by which social evolution occurs. As for the hardware, 
> equipment, missiles, bomb casings, and the inner workings of bombs 
> those are hardware. Those are things of people, and things of people 
> are made through the minds of individuals who design them and those 
> minds of individuals and groups of individuals who execute the 
> decision to fund those programs of nuclear weapons and other weaponry 
> as well. We are on the course to change the minds of people. We begin 
> first with individuals at the local level. We begin with individuals 
> who are earnestly in touch with their Thought Adjuster, those who are 
> earnestly in touch with God generally, and with the celestials and 
> through the church angels and so on. Our work is to bring your world 
> into the Correcting Time where people begin to say: “We no longer need 
> to have nuclear weapons.” And further they say: “It is not them that 
> is the enemy, it is us.” [See below] And that is to quote a very old 
> Pogo Sunday morning cartoon that was published many decades ago. “We 
> have seen the enemy, and they are us.”, to quote the individual. This 
> is true. We, meaning you (If I can use the third person for you), we 
> are the enemy. We are the worst cause of our own misery. And that 
> applies to weaponry and to our enemies as to the products of war that 
> we produce.
>
> I thank you for your question as it does give us an opportunity to 
> address those problems. That will be an ongoing problem—not for this 
> year, but perhaps for the next 1000 or 5000 years as, even when these 
> weapons are put into storage, they will still be very dangerous. Thank 
> you.
>
> *John:*Thank you very much Machiventa.
>
> *Be loyal to the core values*
>
> *Craig:*Good morning Machiventa. This is Craig. I was just reflecting 
> on this, that the values that we have been using would be probably 
> what I would term secondary or derived values that are actually 
> derived from the core values, But [they] are not being applied 
> directly, so the value of being loyal to a leader would stem from the 
> core values. But today, we would want to be /not/ loyal to a leader 
> who may be fallible, but we would want to be loyal to the core values 
> that the leader /should/ be espousing. That was just it—a quick 
> thought. Would you care to comment on it?
>
> *Examine your traditional beliefs in the light of the 7 core values*
>
> *MM:*Thank you. I definitely would. You are correct. You are very 
> correct, and you have enlightened much about the traditional values 
> that your societies use whether they are Russian societies, Chinese 
> societies, American societies, or any other society on this planet. 
> And that is that these traditional beliefs are interpretations. That 
> is how we have been presenting these secondary values and beliefs 
> along the way. You are on the right thread of this. Now, here’s the 
> second part that is required for you, for mortals on this planet, to 
> bring in the Days of Light and Life earlier and resolve these 
> problems: to, individually and in your associations and groups, sit 
> down and intentionally examine your traditional beliefs, and examine 
> them in the light of these 7 values and in light of the morality and 
> ethics that emanate /from/ these values. This is exactly the….
>
> *Daniel:*What do you call it. This is Daniel. I’m thinking aloud 
> here—paradigm shift, but that is not it. Just a second.
>
> *Whole agreement needed to be useful for peaceful intent*
>
> *MM:*This is exactly the transformative experience that you will need 
> individually, as associations, and as groups to rapidly assimilate the 
> new culture of these values and their interpretations. That and the 
> use of the morality and ethic that we have published would be very 
> helpful for the re-alignment of human behavior to this new culture, 
> this new value system, and interpreted beliefs. With these tools, you 
> will now have the opportunity to examine your interpreted beliefs in 
> the light of these values and ethics to see whether they are in 
> agreement or not. Sometimes there may be shades of agreement, but they 
> truly need to be in whole agreement so as to be useful in the minds of 
> individuals who want to see peace in their world. Thank you. Thank you 
> very much.
>
> *Craig:*Well, thank /you/. That’s very helpful and enlightening.
>
> *Withholding love to discipline children*
>
> *JT:*I have a couple of questions from readers here. The first one is 
> from Coley: On a normal world, or maybe even a Light and Life one, how 
> are children disciplined whilst maintaining unconditional love. On our 
> world (or at least my country [U.S.]) parents will often withdraw love 
> and approval to discipline a child. Teach us a better way.
>
> *MM:*Most certainly. Thank you for your question. This is totally 
> doable and /is/ being done by some parents on Urantia. On an 
> enlightened world that truly does use interpretations of values and 
> beliefs that are in alignment with the 7 values, ethics, and morality, 
> parents realize that withdrawing love is highly punitive, and that, in 
> fact, it is highly destructive to the psyche of the child and the 
> personality development of the child as a social creature. The how of 
> it is this: that you the parent, accept the behavior of the child as 
> occurring. That it is not necessarily directed personally at the 
> parent or some other person, but that is an expression of what’s going 
> on in the child. The correction of this is almost opposite to the 
> mortal response on this planet—and that is that the child would be 
> embraced. Almost as though they had fallen down and hurt their knee. 
> And that the parent would honestly and forthrightly be sorry that they 
> feel that way, and that the child’s expression of their tantrum or 
> their abuse or however they have reacted was not going to produce the 
> results the child was looking for. This is the essence. This is the 
> point that is so essential throughout the whole program of the Centers 
> for Sustainable Families. This is one very enlightened process of 
> teaching children, of engendering children, to become all that they 
> can become and that they come to recognize their anger, their 
> disappointment, their regret, or whatever feeling is that generated 
> their child’s response is corrected appropriately. And that the child 
> learns by example—that the parents would also not react as the child has.
>
> *Children learn by example*
>
> The problem in modern societies today (of which the United States is 
> only one of many) [is] that the temper of parents is easily shared 
> with children via social media, by media, movies, news, and so on in 
> your technologies and at home. The basis for making this new form 
> of—we would not call it discipline, but enculturation of peace—is 
> through the parents who have enculturated that within themselves. This 
> requires a level of maturity on the part of the adult, the parent, to 
> realize that what made them angry or how they reacted to the child’s 
> response was, in fact, to something else—that it was a reflection of 
> some earlier times in their own life. You have a habit of calling this 
> “your personal baggage.” Thank you.
>
> *Influences of Machiventa in ancient Egypt*
>
> *JT:*We have another question from a reader. Dennis asks: Machiventa, 
> thank you for your inspiring responses to our questions. The Urantia 
> Book reveals that you were revered in Egypt even before Abraham’s 
> visit and also favorably acknowledged by the pharaoh himself as 
> evidenced by his encouraging Abraham to return to Salem in support of 
> your mission. In view of this receptivity to your teachings, were 
> there any spiritual responses that emerged, such as the awareness of 
> the /conscience/ as emphasized by Amenhotep, or the elevation of one 
> of their gods over the others, such as Amun?
>
> *MM:*Yes, you are quite correct. There was a response. In fact, there 
> was a response earlier than that to the individual’s Thought Adjuster 
> that urged the individual to make their recommendations to the wise 
> one who visited them. I believe this answers your question. Was there 
> more to that?
>
> *JT:*That’s all I have. And we’ll go to Bea next.
>
> *Afterlife of pets*
>
> **
>
> *Bea: *Hello Machiventa. This is Bea from Canada for those who don’t 
> know. I have a different kind of question—kind of a different vein 
> than what we’ve been discussing with sustainable societies. I have a 
> friend of mine who recently experienced a loss of a beloved pet, and 
> it leads me to a question as to whether or not the personality of the 
> pet continues into the after life as humans do. And I guess I’m 
> looking for a way to comfort him. Would you be able to comment on that?
>
> *MM:*Yes, most certainly and gladly so. Your pets are those wonderful 
> beings that share their unconditional love with you, their patience, 
> their forbearance, their tolerance. And the answers to your question 
> are explained in /The Urantia Book/ itself. We recommend you research 
> that before I further comment. Would that be agreeable to you?
>
> *Bea:*Yes, absolutely. I will look for it. I apologize.
>
> *MM:*No apologies are necessary or needed. Thank you.
>
> *How confident? Not very. Cultures have inertia.*
>
> *Walt:*Thank you so much for this opportunity. The first question is: 
> Given how dire the social, political, and public health conditions 
> have become in U.S. society, how confident are you, Machiventa, that 
> compassionate, principled, and intelligent leadership would be 
> adequate to rally the U.S. society to beat the pandemic health wise 
> and economically.
>
> *MM:*Thank you for your question Walt. How confident am I? I must 
> answer forthrightly “not very.” The difficulty, you see, is 
> generational. There may come into existence great leadership in a 
> nation such as the United States or other nations, that is 
> disregarded—that doesn’t make sense to the culture that has developed. 
> For, you see, that culture has as its core a set of beliefs and values 
> that identify that culture. It takes years and decades for a culture 
> to imbed itself thoroughly into a population—particularly a large, 
> national population. Cultures have inertia—meaning that they have 
> longevity to continue the course of belief and values that was set 
> decades ago even when people are seeing that they are unproductive. It 
> is difficult for a nation to do this without some climactic 
> occurrence—some happenstance of great magnitude—that creates an almost 
> instantaneous transformation. Now, the example of the nuclear bombing 
> of Nagasaki and Hiroshima did truly create an immediate transformation 
> of belief, values, and responses throughout the world. This is 
> something that will be needed to change the course of traditional 
> beliefs and values in those cultures. And you see, Walt, even though 
> there was that transformation, that awareness, of instant destruction 
> of tens of thousands of people in a flash of light, that still nuclear 
> weapons were not only continued but proliferated, and the numbers of 
> them were escalated by 10’s and 100’s.
>
> *Transforming cultures, values, and beliefs may require existential 
> crises*
>
> So, you see, that what you are asking about is difficult. And we, 
> through the Correcting Time and through our co-creative partners 
> (yourselves), are in the process of striving to transform your staid 
> and historic cultures, values, and beliefs. Now, given the fact that 
> the menu—the resource of values, beliefs, and culture for 
> humanity—came into existence in almost the same identical way, you see 
> we have our work cut out for us to change the cultures of your world, 
> each individually and collectively, which includes the values and 
> beliefs of your world. There must come into the awareness of mortals, 
> let’s say in a single nation, that there is no way out. That they have 
> trapped themselves into a situation that is impossible to resolve. 
> There is a philosophical name for such a situation, but it is, in our 
> words, existential—a situation that, if you continue what you are 
> doing, you will cease to exist, and if you do /not/ change you will 
> cease to exist, and if you accept [that situation], then, your old 
> ways of belief and values will cease to exist. Which do you want?
>
> So, there is the conundrum your world is faced with. What we know 
> about the human species—the human behavior, social behavior, national 
> behavior, and so on—is that it takes a slow grinding, grinding, 
> grinding, grinding, grinding against the egos and the personal beliefs 
> of individuals and groups to change their way of life and living.
>
> *Reality of existential crisis not yet appreciated by the masses*
>
> We have spoken about this. It is beyond an existential problem when it 
> gets to that stage. It is the stage where a population may have lost 
> 80% of its people in order for 20% to live. These situations exist in 
> the arctic, they exist only in survival situations where there is a 
> determined effort by those who are aware of the situation to make 
> others aware of the gravity of what they face. And that it is 
> incumbent upon certain individuals who understand the situation now to 
> realize that they personally must cease to exist for the rest to remain.
>
> In that situation, Walt, then you will have people change their minds. 
> They will readily accept almost /anything/ that’s given to them, but 
> here, Walt, we hold out to all humanity benevolence, goodness, 
> graciousness, generosity, persistent goodness all around, were people 
> to change their beliefs and their ways of living. So, in this case—the 
> moving into a much-transformed society with new values, new beliefs, 
> and interpretations of values that are in concert and in parallel with 
> the 7 values, ethics, and morality—there is success. There is 
> survival. And so, the point that you want me to say now is that we’re 
> not there yet. People have not been ground down to a nub of egoism and 
> self-reliance to believe that they cannot go back to the way they used 
> to live. What I’m saying is: that existential point of survival or 
> not, has not reached the psyche of the masses of people yet.
>
> *World transition; delaying the progress of Nebadon and negative entities*
>
> **
>
> *Walt:*I hurt, but I understand. I thank you. It’s so sobering. I’ll 
> move on. The next question is: In recent years there has been 
> significant chatter that our world is about to transition from third 
> to fourth dimension density. In part this is explained to me related 
> to an up stepping of consciousness toward a more enlightened state. 
> Also, it is claimed there is an urgency for this to happen because the 
> delay in progress on our world is delaying progress for the wider 
> galactic family. Without this outright disavowing this possibility, 
> you had indicated in NET 100 that you do not foresee such an 
> awakening. My question is: Is it likely the sources of such messaging 
> (which are somewhat pervasive) are negative entities trying to confuse 
> us?**
>
> *Daniel: *Walt.
>
> *Walt:*Yes.
>
> *Daniel:*This is Daniel (chuckles). I’m going to be rather crude here, OK?
>
> *Walt:*OK.
>
> *Daniel:*You asked a far better question than was asked in [NET] 100. 
> I mean, the detail [with] which you asked this question was wonderful. 
> The question that was provided last time was: Do we anticipate an 
> awakening? And the answer was given. But in this situation, you put 
> the awakening in a much broader perspective, and then at the very end 
> of it, you pissed on your own good question.
>
> *Walt:*[Groaning] I recant!
>
> *Daniel:*Yes, you brought in that aspect of some evil being. You’ve 
> got enough problems to think about with human ego and the human 
> psyche, let alone bringing in some hostile individual who wants to 
> “dominate the world [evil tone of voice].” So, let me hand you back to 
> Machiventa.
>
> *MM: *Good morning dear Walt. Through the crude language of This One 
> we hope you get the point that you had the basis for receiving a fully 
> developed answer to your question, but then you threw a monkey wrench 
> in the works so that the question had lost all of its value. And the 
> answer is: that it is true—your question was multi-faceted. I will 
> address as many as are in the database of This One.
>
> 1.) There is no evil being doing these things.
>
> 2.) Yes, it is true that the lack of progress on Urantia is holding up 
> the progress of all worlds in Nebadon to proceed to the days of Light 
> and Life for the whole local universe. This is where the patience of 
> Divinity is needed to encourage backward worlds as Urantia to move 
> ahead. And it is not out of feelings of guilt that are projected upon 
> your world, for there is no guilt projected at all. Yes, there is an 
> awakening in the consciousness of humanity that is necessary for this 
> world to up step itself to the Days of Light and Life. You can call it 
> fourth dimensional. You can call it whatever you want, but it requires 
> a heightened consciousness of the Superconsciousness within 
> individuals to make conscious choices that bring your world into what 
> they call the fourth dimension. This is a part of [the] maturation of 
> a world, of a civilization, and ultimately of each individual.
>
> *Positive influence of Nebadonia’s work*
>
> So, what you alluded to is, yes, and that it takes time. And the 
> efforts of Christ Michael in this situation are pervasive. I will go 
> further in making a generalized statement rather than a response to 
> your question: The work of Nebadonia is having positive results. She 
> and her angelic corps have had positive influence in the minds of 
> ordinary people—even those people who absolutely do not believe in 
> God. Individuals are now coming to a general awareness that your world 
> (our world) is in dire trouble. Ultimately, people will either make 
> efforts to transform their societies and learn to sustain themselves, 
> or there is the probability that civilization as you know it now will 
> cease to exist. That is a probability, but not necessarily an 
> eventuality. It is not a high probability, but it is a probability. 
> And that, through the influence of Nebadonia and her angelic corps 
> many people are even now preparing for the recovery of your cultures, 
> your nations, your societies, and your new civilization after the 
> cataclysms. This may seem unbelievable, but it is occurring and is 
> beginning first on a technological basis.
>
> *Zero-point energy*
>
> You recall that many times I have told you that zero-point energy has 
> not been forthcoming because it is being withheld—that the dots of 
> intelligence and conceptual development are being withheld from 
> individuals who are fully capable of producing zero-point energy in 
> machines in the near future. This policy is now being softened so that 
> there is a slow process, an inkling in individuals of how to produce 
> abundant energy—as your sun provides energy—on a local basis. Your 
> world will not have to worry about energy needs, and not destroy 
> itself through the mining of petrochemical substances in the earth. 
> This is a throttled approach to material revelation mechanisms and 
> invention. This is fully controllable. As you know and as philosophers 
> have said, once an individual is in possession of a new idea, their 
> mind will not collapse back to the same size it was before. So, this 
> information, once it is widespread, enters everyone and becomes 
> another means, another mechanism, another concept, another 
> mathematical formula or equation that will help the same results in 
> other locations. Once the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak, 
> then consciousness is in possession of it. Our job and Nebadonia’s job 
> (if you want to put it into terms of a chore, job, or workplan) is to 
> no longer withhold this added information from the consciousness of 
> those ingenious and those inventive individuals. Thank you.
>
> *Walt:*Ah, man. I celebrate your answer. It is not just fully 
> satisfying; it is more than I could have expected. Thank you so very 
> much. And now I yield to others.
>
> *JT:*Thank you Walt. And we’ll go to Dennis.
>
> *Connecting values to the universal core values*
>
> *Dennis:*Yes, this is Dennis in Colorado Springs. My question is: You 
> said earlier that the statement of values of the USA transcends from 
> the universal and core values (at least that’s what I 
> understood)—life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. For our 
> clarification, could you please show the connection of each of these 
> three core values (except for life) to the universal core values? This 
> may help teach us how to transcend other values back to the universal 
> values.
>
> *MM:*Yes, surely. I gave you the example of loyalty, and how 
> interpretations of loyalty can eventually come around 180 degrees and 
> bite you hard. That it is life, equality, growth, and quality of life. 
> With those 4 values you can develop a culture and value system for any 
> positive, growing, evolving society and nation. The examples could be 
> many. Universal values: these values /are/ universal. They are 
> universal to all humans and they are universal to all worlds upon 
> which sentient life that is invested with a Divine fragment live. I 
> would not suggest you come to identify these as divine values. These 
> are ultimate /universal/ values. The divine values far surpass human 
> consciousness to understand or comprehend. There could be many values 
> that could be given to illustrate this point, but I will leave that to 
> /you/. The chore that I have given you (handed to all of your 
> societies) is to evaluate your current beliefs and values and see how 
> they conform to the 7 values that are innate to humans and the ethic 
> and morality that emanate from those values. This would be far more 
> helpful and useful to creating a new culture of oneness of 
> universal-centered values that emanate from their creation. I see that 
> this does not satisfy your question, but this is where I will leave it 
> for now. Thank you.
>
> *Dennis:*Thank you Machiventa.
>
> *An ambiguous question about UB Paper 71*
>
> *Richard:*Hello Machiventa, this is Richard in Las Vegas. I have been 
> doing personal research on sustainable civilization, and I have been 
> reading in Paper 71 of /The Urantia Book/ where it says: “Democracy, 
> while an ideal, is a product of civilization, not of evolution.” and 
> “The really civilized government has arrived when public opinion was 
> clothed with the powers of the personal franchise.” So, my question 
> is: This seems to suggest a communication process. Could you expand on 
> this please?
>
> *MM:*For one, your question is ambiguous as you have not fleshed out 
> your question to the satisfaction of listeners at this time, and for 
> me to give you a solid, workable answer. You allude to communication, 
> but you do not elucidate that.
>
> *Dennis:*Ok, thank you. I’ll try and think about that.
>
> *MM:*Thank you.
>
> *Zero-point energy and the fossil industry*
>
> *Bea:*Hi Machiventa, it’s Bea again. I just have a clarifying question 
> actually. I’m interested in the fact that you brought up zero-point 
> energy, and that scientists are eventually going to come to some 
> knowledge on how to apply it. When that happens, it would seem to me, 
> that this would cause great political strife (correct me if I’m 
> wrong), but my thinking is that many of the companies that are 
> involved in the fossil fuel industry will fight their hardest to 
> suppress this new technology. I’m wondering if you have any comment 
> about that. Oh, and one more thing I was thinking I forgot to mention. 
> I was wondering if the decision to allow zero-point energy to come 
> into existence on Urantia was partly because that the celestials were 
> worried that we might end up destroying ourselves with our current 
> path. So, I would appreciate any comment that you have. Thank you.
>
> *MM:*Thank you Bea. Actually, Bea, very few of us worry.
>
> *Bea:*Oh, OK. That’s good.
>
> *MM: *There is concern. Zero-point energy technologies, concepts, and 
> so on have been withheld from your races simply because it would be 
> used to create a weapon capable of totally destroying your world in 
> the same kind of instance that occurred in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 
> There are proportions of power that are unknown to humans at this 
> time, and which are now beginning to become known, slowly, to many 
> scientists who are working on this and… I will stop that line of logic 
> right there without revealing more than I should. Everyone has a 
> supervisor you know [laughter].
>
> What most energy companies do not realize is that there is an endgame 
> to their work, and that, if they become the sole provider of household 
> zero-point energy production units, that every household would have 
> one and there would then be the production of those machines. However, 
> there are other adjacent technologies where this could be used, and 
> the current executives know that and have thought this through just as 
> you have. They know that they are literally in the fossil industry (I 
> hope you appreciate the pun), and that it is something that has an end 
> to it. And that they must, as large corporations, continue to appease 
> their shareholders and boards of trustees and others. Your questions 
> have not gone unnoticed or ignored by those already who have thought 
> about this years ago. What will we do if _____? What will we do when 
> ______?  The possibility of malicious individuals using these 
> technologies for their own ends, of course, is a possibility—not 
> necessarily an eventuality. Our work now is to bring people into 
> benevolent awareness (Christ-consciousness as you call it) of the 
> oneness of all humanity and of all life and consciousness in the 
> universe. And that your world is one cog in the machine of Nebadon 
> which is dependent upon all parts, all worlds coming into advancement 
> and enlightenment eventually. I thank you for your questions.
>
> *Bea:*Thank you Machiventa. I appreciate it.
>
> *JT:*And we’re out of time for questions today. Machiventa, do you 
> have a closing?
>
> *Holding your breath and the transition of hope*
>
> *MM:*Most certainly. You feel the pause as we feel the pause among 
> you. That there are hundreds of millions of individuals who have taken 
> a breath just as you have and held their breath for a moment. Whether 
> they are members of this NOCO group and readership or not, people are 
> holding their breath. They’re waiting for the next disaster to happen. 
> They are waiting for the next thing that will affect their lives 
> intimately, but no one is saying after they take their breath: “I wish 
> it would occur.” People are silently hoping within themselves that it 
> is not permanent, that these changes are temporary, that they will go 
> away. That point of changing your mind about the future of your lives 
> and how to proceed comes when hope seems to fade. When hope for 
> returning to the traditional way of life and lifestyles has 
> disappeared, and that the hope then is transformed into the hope that 
> what comes into being will be peaceful, helpful, and good for 
> themselves, their children, and future generations.
>
> *We do not sugarcoat this— those days of the “good life” are gone*
>
> We have noticed this within the group. You see that almost at 20 
> minutes to the hour that all the questions had been answered and 
> people had taken a breath and held their breath wondering now what to 
> ask about. Where some of you are highly reticent to ask any further 
> questions about what and when will these things occur and in what 
> proportions because it truly does scare the life out of you to hear 
> the answers.
>
> And one thing we will not do is to sugarcoat the answers, for you had 
> too many sugarcoated, politically correct answers given to you 
> throughout the decades and particularly in the last 150 years. It is 
> now time for tough answers even though they may feel like sand in your 
> teeth that you’re grinding on as you consider these answers. Life and 
> living on your world truly has been as good as it’s going to get 
> through the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. And you have seen the political, 
> social, and economic turmoil, hostility and militarisms, revolts, and 
> so on continue to continue, multiply, and get more egregious and 
> grievous all the time. Those days of the good life are gone. Now you 
> see that only a very few of the billionaires and people who are in 
> possession of hundreds of millions of dollars can have such a life and 
> they too are concerned about keeping the wealth that they have.
>
> *Worry all around. Selfishness must go away.*
>
> So, there is “worry all around for you.” There is worry enough for all 
> humans in this lifetime and for generations to come. Now it is time to 
> embrace the new paradigm of beliefs, philosophies, and ideologies that 
> benefit everyone. The selfishness that you have seen in the world, 
> …that must go away. You must now create a tradition of generosity, 
> friendliness, and compassion for yourself, your neighbors, and 
> particularly for you children and their generations.
>
> *You are not abandoned. You are a part of the transition.*
>
> We will not abandon you. You are not abandoned. Your world will be 
> here for hundreds of generations to come. Enjoy the fact that you are 
> part of the mechanism, part of the beliefs, and individuals who make 
> that happen. Thank you, and good day.
>
> *JT:*Thank you Machiventa for that wonderful and profound closing and 
> thank you Daniel.
>
> *MM:*You are most welcome.
>
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