[tmtranscripts] S.E. Idaho Transcript 11-2-01

[Bill Kelly]

SE IDAHO/POCATELLO TeaM
November 2, 2001

Prayer by Klarixiska (Virginia): This is Klarixiska.  To the Trinity, three
personalities in one, we pray that we rise above the pettiness of laughable
personal affronts.  We thank you that each of these your children are at a
space in their life where they are able to do this.  We desire that we, as
celestials, share the bit of wisdom that we have learned, because of longer
years heading toward you, so that their hearts might be open, their eyes
might see and their ears might hear that which will help them serve their
brothers and sisters tomorrow and each day, as they come in contact with
all of your children.  Amen.

Abraham (Bill): Greetings, I am Abraham, one more time.  I am not going to
be the main speaker this evening.  I am here to survey this little group's
progress as part of my supervisory circuit.  I am pleased that my words to
you were of some value, and indeed was humor and laughter a balm for the
soul.  Indeed again this is a time in world history where mistakes and
errors need to be cushioned in the embrace of humor, so that there is not
an undue amount of bitterness as a residue.  It is also true that fortitude
can be considered morally neutral, and can be applied to the persistence of
evil in sin and iniquity.  So it is not fortitude per se which is virtuous,
but spiritual fortitude, which is what I was recommending.  I will complete
my comments so that the scheduled teachers will be allowed to take their
time.  I did wish, though, this quick opportunity to greet you all.  Before
I completely surrender the microphone I will offer a brief time for any
left over questions which those of you here present might have as a result
of not being in the flesh with us at our last meeting.  Do you have any
questions that you need to ask?  If not, we will then proceed with this
evening's agenda.

Bob S: Abraham, I had a question about this relationship between fortitude
and patience.  I'm not sure I fully understand that relationship.

Abraham (Bill): Yes, my son, I am glad to try to make that clear to you.
Fortitude is long lasting strength and courage in the face of adversity,
difficulty, etc.  Patience is the ability to also persist over time, in
either waiting for the arrival for some promise, tolerating some difficult
personality trait in another, or not losing hope in one's progress over
character defects.  Patience is the ability to surrender the "I want it
when I want it and how I want it" type of thinking in order to turn over to
God that which says, "I will wait for the promise which will come in God's
good time".  So both fortitude and patience are related to the ability to
persist and keep on with the task, whether it be patient waiting or any
other activity requiring sustained strength.

Bob S: So without patience what happens?  The fortitude melts away and is
lost?

Abraham (Bill): That's right, exactly.  It isn't as though they are two
separate entities.  They are more or less intertwined; for to remain
patient in the face of adversity and disappointment and the constant
putting off the satisfaction of hope, requires the strength of fortitude,
as well.  They are not synonyms, but they are closely related.

Bob S: Yes, I see.  Thank you.

Abraham (Bill): You're welcome.  Fortitude and patience are improved by
exercise, the exercise of spiritual muscle, just as a long distance
runner's strength is improved by the exercise required to obtain and
maintain that discipline.  One does not suddenly acquire fortitude, and one
does not suddenly become patient.  Both are the result of a gradual and
persistent exercise program.  This is another way of saying what I said in
my last statements last week about bringing up the water from the well when
you are thirsty so you don't grow faint.  Not only do you need to provide
nourishment, but you also need to do exercise.  (Pause.)  Very well, at
this time I will step aside.  One moment please.

Elyon (Bill): Fondest greetings to you all.  This is Elyon.  I am here
visiting this evening with my friend, Daniel.  This is a teacher exchange
night, and it is my privilege to be with you.  I wish to talk about
adapting to surprise, adapting to the unanticipated in life.  Your text
tells you that your journey in ascension involves the absolute security
coming from the love of God combined with the relative uncertainty
regarding the future, and advises us, as a result of these two elements, to
approach the unknown with anticipation and the excitement of adventure.  

It is impossible to anticipate the future with excitement without the
underpinning substructure of confidence in your relationship to God.  If a
person does not know God in their own consciousness, or has grossly
distorted ideas about God's true character, then the future cannot be
viewed with excitement and a sense of adventure, but is more likely to be
seen as fearful, uncertain, and the tendency is to stay firmly grounded in
the known, which is the present and the past.  The sense of confidence
which was discussed this evening when one has done all they can to be
careful, rightly allows you then to take the risks of adventure.  But even
beyond all that you might do to be careful and cautious, is a greater
truth, i.e., that there is Someone else who looks out for you and does even
a better job of care taking than you do.  This of course is your Heavenly
Parent who looks out for your eternal welfare, and desires your everlasting
cooperation and fellowship.  The excitement has the tinge of pleasure and
adventure because the underlying confidence in the love of God guarantees
that whatever comes to you in the future cannot destroy your essence,
cannot stop your eternal progress.  Since obstacles come to all, to take
the attitude that they are learning experiences rather than disasters,
makes possible the adventurous and exciting response.

There is an error possible to people who are termed "daredevils".  The
error is that they have overly great trust in themselves, and feel that
they have control of all things.  Then they are willing to take risks that
others consider foolhardy.  This is not what I am advocating in our
consideration this evening.  

To be in a mood of excitement and adventure does not mean that this mood is
not intersected by other moods such as discouragement, depression, anger
and even sometimes fear.  But it does mean that it is the underlying mood
suffused also with joy, which holds up the structure of one's being  while
one is also in the throes of these other emotions.  That may appear to be a
confusing picture, but people can experience great sadness without losing
their hope or their underlying joy and excitement.  

As you view the future my friends, ask yourself, "Do you see life as an
adventure, as exciting, as full of possibilities,  or do you see life in a
different light, perhaps, as a weary path to trod through the veil of
tears, or a great mountain to climb only to slide down when your once reach
half way up?"  I don't believe that you people in this room view life as in
these last two examples because you have understood the underlying goodness
and love of your Creators.

It will be well for your nation and the rest of the world if questions
about underlying attitudes, such as I have just discussed, are asked by
more and more people.  It is time to challenge the usual way of thinking.
It is time for a great uplift of understanding, for, indeed, does no one's
security rest in the amount of things that they posses or treasures laid up
where moth can eat, and rust can rot, and thieves can come by and steal.
The only secure treasures are those which comply with the reality of the
universe.  They are treasures of the choice to do the will of God, which is
to become more and more like him, and more and more to serve each other,
your brothers and sisters.  

The first life, the mortal life, is designed to be a time of enormous
learning; and you on this planet are even more in debt to this possibility.
 The amount of learning that you do in this life will directly impact your
future.  So I counsel you to be adventurers.  Stretch out your imagination,
and enthuse and be exuberant over what time will bring your in the future.
Don't be fearful; don't be stingy; and don't be self limiting, but throw
away all the things that cling to your legs and arms so that you may run
the race of life with freedom, with joy, and with ultimate success.

Thank you my friends.  It was a pleasure to be your teacher of assignment
this evening.  I am Elyon.  Good evening.

Daniel (Bill): I am Daniel.  Friends, do not feel deserted.  I have enjoyed
being back in the wings, as it were.  Elyon and Abraham are still with us.
I would at this time open up our forum for any comments or questions that
you might have.  Please proceed.

Bob S: I have a question I guess for Elyon.  You eluded to the relative
importance of the first stage of existence.  We have a popular book in our
society called "Everything I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten,"
which alludes to the importance of the things you learn in essentially the
first part of our schooling process.  In the over all scheme of things, is
this physical existence really the most important step, or could one say
that?  Would you have any comments to make about the relative importance of
physical life as compared to experiences in the morontia worlds and so on?

Elyon (Bill): This is Elyon.  Your analogy, my friend, is well taken
between the basics that are learned by a young child in their preschool or
early school experience, where they learn these basics of social
interaction and the reliability of the adult world.  That child can then
grow up to be an adult who can function with freedom and emotional
maturity.  In like manner then if one has grasped the fundamental security
of the love of God as a child of that same heavenly parent, then they can
be free in their life to proceed with stability to be adventuresome and
excited about living, rather than fearful and ineffective.  It is
unfortunate in these times that the family unit, where this learning must
take place, has been so fragmented that much of it has been transferred to
a larger setting, a school classroom or some other setting.  Sometimes the
child does not learn the basic lessons of love and sharing and cooperation
with others that are essential in being an effective adult.  
The mortal life is terribly important, yes.  Consider this: the first
several morontia worlds are basically devoted to remediation, to fill in
for the deficiencies of mortal life.  Now,, on your planet with your short
life spans of less than a hundred years, you do not have sufficient time to
learn all the lessons that are learned on planets in Light and Life with
life spans of three to six hundred years, as well as more advanced
cultures.  So I can't answer your question completely without pointing out
that there is great variation in what the mortal life can be.  On Urantia,
with your short life span, your Luciferian legacy, and your lack of a
Material Son and Daughter, it is extremely important to take advantage of
your days of learning because you have such a distance to go in your mortal
experiences and so few years to traverse this distance.  Does this assist
you, my friend?

Bob S: No, but I didn't expect an answer that would.  [Laughter.]  How do
the difficulties that we encounter in this world (which we have been told
are really opportunities), [laughter] how do those play out?  You're saying
we don't have the three to six hundred year advantage; but here we have the
opportunity to experience all of the misery that this world has to offer
[laughter] so if we can learn how to deal with that, haven't we learned
more than those who lived on planets that don't have these kind of problems?

Elyon (Bill): Yes, that was the gist of my point: that because you are
short on time and do have a huge distance to go, you need to make the best
of it, because the result is you will make the most progress.   Progress is
the result of decisions, and tough times present you with many tough
decisions.  If you make the choice of the highest spiritual decisions
available to you then you make the most progress.

Decisions are the result of circumstances, and circumstances come in two
ways.  They come to you and you have to react to them, or you go out and
seek them, the so called reactive versus pro-active life.  What we desire
to share with you is our enthusiasm that the pro-active approach to life is
more fruitful; i.e., to regard things as adventures and exciting, and as
problems and challenges to be solved rather than  hopeless struggle with no
resolution, this, with great effort and persistence is to finally solve a
problem and make progress.  This is what I am referring to.  

When I said to you a moment ago if this was helpful, I meant, do you see an
analogy between kindergarten and understanding this love of God, resulting
in the  ability to view the future with adventure and excitement?

Bob S: Yes, but it doesn't mean it is any easier to accomplish.

Elyon (Bill): No.

Bob S: But I can see what I should be doing.  Thank you.

Elyon (Bill): Other comments or questions?  (Pause.)

Abraham (Bill): I am Abraham.  I would say a final word.  The fortitude
that I stressed, and the patience that is a part of it, are also based upon
an understanding of the universe which sees it as under the over control of
a benevolent, loving, all powerful Parent.  You live, we live, in the
evolving superuniverses of time and space where the great experiment is
occurring to see and to achieve the duplication of Paradise-Havona
perfection over time, to see that which is incomplete and imperfect become
completed and perfected.  If we did not know the direction of this goal,
then fortitude would become exhausted.  Patience would be thrown to the
winds.  

I am not asking you to persist in futility.  Elyon is not suggesting that
you have an adventurous attitude toward a universe that is run by fools!
Your soul growth and your evolution are a very important part of the
evolution of the whole, of God the Supreme, as he evolves in an through all
of us, and as we evolve with him.  This big picture provides nourishment to
your understanding so that you feel it is important to rise to the occasion
and enjoy life from an adventurous and excited point of view.  Don't stay
in the doldrums.  Rise up, my friends.  (Pause)   Let us all rise up and
join hands.

Prayer by Daniel (Bill): I am Daniel.  Eternal Deity in Three Persons, you
who have designed and caused to be created the universe that we are part
of, we turn our minds, our hearts, our souls to you in gratitude and in
need.  We are grateful to be alive, to have the gift of personality, to
have this place, this universe of Christ Michael's, to live in.  We are
grateful for each other, that we have the ability and the opportunity to be
friends to each other, to be companions, indeed to love each other.  

May your great experiment succeed!  May imperfection reach perfection!  May
we truly honor the part you give us to be co-creators in all of this and
not merely recipients of perfection.  To these, my brothers and sisters, I
bequeath my hope, my faith and my love, that they may continue to walk
steadily, confidently, and joyfully the path of life.  Until we meet again,
keep them in your closest care.  Even so, amen.
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